Those orange line elevated trains will be underground in another two years- very cool to see a small number of 'Picture Window' PCCs among the hoards of 'Postwar' cars. They *did* make up the majority of the MBTA PCC fleet at what, some 225 cars? Comparatively, there was the test car 3001 built by St Louis Car Co (1 car), the Prewar PCC fleet (20 cars), the All-Electric fleet (25 cars), the Picture Window fleet (50 cars), and later the Double Enders (25 cars, formerly operated in Dallas TX). I also believe certain fleets tended to get assigned to certain lines throughout their careers. The cars that remain in service on the Ashmont-Mattapan line are "postwar" cars, from the 225 car order in 1945-1946. The PCCs were lucky, it's very sad they're almost all gone now, but if it weren't for the failure of the Boeing Vetrol LRV in the '70s, the PCCs would have been retired a decade or so sooner. As it was, the bulk of them received significant work since it was clear the LRV wasn't going to be up to the task of ushering the MBTA into the '80s, which the PCCs would do until the Type 7 cars took over in the mid '80s (probably not terribly long after this VHS was shot, less than 12 months I think)
The 144 Boeing LRVs were delivered from 1976-1983. The PCCs were retired in 1985. The Type 7 were delivered between 1986-1988. Between the gap of 1985 and 1986. Although 45 were delivered in 1986 and began operation in June of 1986. All cars weren't delivered until 1988. All 100 weren't in service until 1989. What happened Green Line Service from 1985-1986?
EVERYBODY SING! Will it ever return, no it never returned, once again we all got burned, like line "A" before it, it was temporary, Arborway will never return.
Those orange line elevated trains will be underground in another two years- very cool to see a small number of 'Picture Window' PCCs among the hoards of 'Postwar' cars. They *did* make up the majority of the MBTA PCC fleet at what, some 225 cars? Comparatively, there was the test car 3001 built by St Louis Car Co (1 car), the Prewar PCC fleet (20 cars), the All-Electric fleet (25 cars), the Picture Window fleet (50 cars), and later the Double Enders (25 cars, formerly operated in Dallas TX). I also believe certain fleets tended to get assigned to certain lines throughout their careers. The cars that remain in service on the Ashmont-Mattapan line are "postwar" cars, from the 225 car order in 1945-1946. The PCCs were lucky, it's very sad they're almost all gone now, but if it weren't for the failure of the Boeing Vetrol LRV in the '70s, the PCCs would have been retired a decade or so sooner. As it was, the bulk of them received significant work since it was clear the LRV wasn't going to be up to the task of ushering the MBTA into the '80s, which the PCCs would do until the Type 7 cars took over in the mid '80s (probably not terribly long after this VHS was shot, less than 12 months I think)
Thank you, for sharing this. It brings back some of my fondest "T" memories.
The 144 Boeing LRVs were delivered from 1976-1983. The PCCs were retired in 1985. The Type 7 were delivered between 1986-1988. Between the gap of 1985 and 1986. Although 45 were delivered in 1986 and began operation in June of 1986. All cars weren't delivered until 1988. All 100 weren't in service until 1989. What happened Green Line Service from 1985-1986?
They should have left the trolleys and that elevated Orange line in place.
It looks like most of this was filmed at Arborway Yard.
2:23: sad look on the front of that PCC car; knowing that its days are numbered!
Looks like the Arborway line.
Now its all gone, shame on them, the place is a mess
I agree. It took rapid transit away from these communities and now the rely on subpar service
This must came out in the early 80s
Or mid 80s (1984/85).
EVERYBODY SING!
Will it ever return, no it never returned, once again we all got burned,
like line "A" before it, it was temporary, Arborway will never return.
They should have persevered a bunch of them. Then used them on there Green Line expansion.