The G Bass Trombone - Discussion and Demonstration

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  • This video is one of the only videos on UA-cam that talks about this historical instrument - the G Bass Trombone. I'm very proud of this particular example, as my granddad played it for over 40 years.
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  • @SWMP1523
    @SWMP1523 7 років тому +80

    Trent, You are lucky to have grown up with a grandfather who played an instrument, even luckier to have him play that same instrument. My grandfather did play Cornet, but he passed away when I was very young, long before I began playing Trumpet and I would have always loved to have him around to play my trumpet with. I'm sure it was very fun playing in a brass band with your grandfather. The Trombone was very interesting novel video!

    • @jacksonville1019
      @jacksonville1019 7 років тому +21

      Trumpeter2016 my Grandfather played Trumpet for a drum corps
      I play Baritone.
      my sister played Trombone.
      my dad, well we don't talk about Saxophone players.

    • @ScratchySlide
      @ScratchySlide 2 роки тому

      @@jacksonville1019 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @georgeparkins777
      @georgeparkins777 2 роки тому +1

      My grandfather was a jazz cornetist. I inherited his cornet and trumpet, both Olds Ambassadors of remarkable quality, considering they were made as intermediate-grade instruments. The cornet is completely delacquered and has a mild kink where it was dropped on the bell before I was born, but has perfect compression and still sounds as elegant and controlled as an long-wrap cornet possibly can. When I was starting out, I was tremendously lucky to have inherited them, as I could not have afforded a single trumpet or cornet of comparable quality at the time. It's always very lucky to have family that keeps things for the future generations.

  • @michaelkingmikekingmusiccouk
    @michaelkingmikekingmusiccouk 7 років тому +49

    Hi Trent, my first Trombone was a G Trombone, I love your work, I think your fantastic, Michael King

    • @jeffthememeslayer5096
      @jeffthememeslayer5096 7 років тому +4

      boi, my first was your regular standard trombone, then I switched to tenor, then to bass, then to contrabass(which I only play for fun).

    • @BillybobJoelikestrains
      @BillybobJoelikestrains 7 років тому +24

      Standard is tenor I believe.

    • @Heynal
      @Heynal 2 роки тому +1

      Mk

  • @rillkaleigh4944
    @rillkaleigh4944 4 роки тому +17

    Trent can hit higher notes on his G bass trombone than I can on a normal tenor!

    • @DNKG669
      @DNKG669 2 роки тому +6

      eh
      the g bass trombone doesn't have that much more tubing than a normal tenor, and it uses small shank mouthpieces
      Plus Trent is just a great player in general

    • @saidoof9369
      @saidoof9369 28 днів тому +1

      The g trombone is like u playing a normal tenor trombone in 4th position

  • @jeffcraven7376
    @jeffcraven7376 7 років тому +6

    Thanks for showing, demonstrating and telling us about your granddad's trombone; what an interesting instrument.

  • @TenorCantusFirmus
    @TenorCantusFirmus 5 років тому +10

    Not only is the bass in G (sometimes also called "baritone trombone") probably the modern trombone closest in design to "Baroque" ones ("sagbutts"), but as long as i remember it also was the instrument Gustav Holst mainly played, so it has some story to tell us.
    Thank you for having shared a video upon this instrument.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  5 років тому +7

      The G Bass trombone should never be called a baritone trombone. There is no such thing as a baritone trombone. It is a legitimate bass trombone because in the context in which it was used it was certainly the bass member of the trombone family.

    • @aycc-nbh7289
      @aycc-nbh7289 2 роки тому

      @@TrentHamilton I don’t know whether I’ve posted this at some other point in some other video, but if third tenor trombone parts sometimes double the bass trombone parts, then what if there were one day an instrument similar to the bass trombone that would be more suited to play them? Perhaps it could be almost equal in size and pitch to the alto trombone, but it could be in the key of either Eb, Bb, B, or G depending on which triggers are pressed and it would have a larger bore and bell. Trombone quintets could potentially have three tenor trombones, a baritone trombone, and a bass trombone.

  • @mikestang679
    @mikestang679 3 роки тому +3

    Olde and fantastic relic, not seen or heard nowadays.....

  • @donutgaming1619
    @donutgaming1619 2 роки тому +3

    sure its not too practical at a modern standpiont, but we all know we want one of these.

  • @edyerugolo7767
    @edyerugolo7767 8 років тому +43

    Could you possibly do a video on the Bass French Horn. Or maybe a rotary Tuba. I watch your channel and I have a curious friend who would like to know more about deep, rotary, brass instrument. If not, he still would like to know about Baritones, Cornets, French Horns, Trumpets, Tuba's, Euphoniums, Flugelhorn, and really rare trombones. Thank you

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому +21

      +Edye Rugolo Hi - feel free to send me the instruments you want demonstrated and I'll be glad to. Unfortunately I don't have a rotary tuba or any sort of french horn.

    • @byronpratt9697
      @byronpratt9697 6 років тому +3

      You are everywhere

    • @alejandrobarreiro1304
      @alejandrobarreiro1304 5 років тому

      H&^lkdfkfkfjfjfjfkfkriro8gifcifififfigififir

  • @Armystuntman
    @Armystuntman 9 років тому +60

    Hey, uhm, is it illegal to sample the sounds from your demonstration here for my own music? Or rather, may I have permission to use the sounds in this video for my own personal and public use? I'll give credit if necessary :x

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому +70

      The Unhappy Orchestra What are you wanting to do? If you're needing some sounds I can get higher quality recordings for you.

    • @Android_Warrior
      @Android_Warrior 3 роки тому +11

      @@TrentHamilton : And no answer after 5 years...................

  • @leonardfender2472
    @leonardfender2472 9 років тому +30

    Nice chainsaw. Do you use it as tuning machine?

  • @MatthewBanks100
    @MatthewBanks100 9 років тому +2

    I was wondering when someone else who could actually play would post! Awesome man, really cool

  • @trumpetplayerdude9838
    @trumpetplayerdude9838 6 років тому +2

    The thing about the trumpet not changing at all is so true

    • @lulin2546
      @lulin2546 Рік тому

      zhahahahaha so true trumpet player dude so true

  • @RMoribayashi
    @RMoribayashi 6 років тому +1

    Pretty sure that was "Those Endearing Young Charms" at 8:56. I remember the tune from an exploding piano gag used in four or five Warner Brothers cartoons, including a WWII "Private SNAFU" military cartoon.

  • @derreth
    @derreth 6 років тому +1

    I played in the Sunshine Brass Band in the 60s and there was an old chap who played one of these. Not too well unfortunately but that didn't stop him from entering the solos contest at the South Street Eisteddfod in Ballarat every year.

  • @OTrombone
    @OTrombone 5 років тому +1

    Hi Mr. Hamilton. What equipment do you use to record your videos? Thank you.

  • @Mithosphere
    @Mithosphere 9 років тому +4

    The modern "bass" trombone is nothing more than a large tenor trombone. Any number of valves can be added to it and a tenor can be had in sizes both above and below that of the "bass". Comparing modern instruments to their predecessors is a rather inane subject. The tenor trombone from the 1900s had bores that were only slightly larger than a modern trumpet. Even the G bass had a bore similar to the "circus" bore of the trumpet of the 1920s-30s (around .480"). Conn's G bass had a bore similar to a modern single valve "bass" trombone.

  • @jackhousman6637
    @jackhousman6637 7 років тому

    What was the pitch played at 08:25? and the one at 08:40? Thanks.

  • @Leo-vr3bg
    @Leo-vr3bg 7 років тому

    What was that last song he played?

  • @lancelott9171
    @lancelott9171 7 років тому

    Ik this video is old, but i have a tenor trombone and i can hit Eb to C. its uncomfortable, but its like going halfway to a pedal note and you can reach the notes somewhat easily

  • @TheLittleTrombone_01
    @TheLittleTrombone_01 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Trent! I’ve got an interesting idea - what about a video similar to the video where you swapped pieces of the Piccolo & Soprano Trombones, bit with the Alto & G Bass Trombones? Maybe a combo with a G bass slide & Alto bell could give a Bb trombone with 9 slide positions!

  • @MrBrianhanchett
    @MrBrianhanchett 3 роки тому

    My brother,& myself played tenor trombone alongside our father in Chelmsford Salvation Army Band in the 1960’s .He had played the same instrument for about 40 years

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  3 роки тому +1

      That's awesome :) I go back 5 generations of SA banding and had the honour of playing in a band with my dad and both grandfathers whilst being under the baton of my mother.

  • @kalas856
    @kalas856 2 роки тому

    Trent could you try to do another slide experiment video with these two trombones since their bored are relatively similar?

  • @ElPasoJoe1
    @ElPasoJoe1 9 років тому +7

    So. The key of G. I had thought that the alto flute was the only instrument in G. Thank you...

    • @MikuJess
      @MikuJess 9 років тому +5

      +Joe Burks Old drum and bugle corps used instruments in G. My old high school had a few mellophones, marching baritones, and contras/tubas donated from the Phantom Regiment after they went to using instruments in more conventional keys. I hated using the G contra, unwieldy beast, 5/4 size and only two valves for some dumb reason.

    • @ElPasoJoe1
      @ElPasoJoe1 8 років тому

      Played soprano bugle a VERY long time ago. Only had one valve. If the note was on a line, the valve was in. If it was on a space, the valve was out. Managed to play some nice pieces anyway. Not sure if I knew what key everything was in. Thanks for the reminder of drum and bugle corps. Hadn't thought about them recently...

    • @thebrackingestbrackforu3273
      @thebrackingestbrackforu3273 6 років тому +1

      My teacher owns a G trumpet

    • @nanairobox
      @nanairobox 6 років тому

      Joe Burks え

    • @Symphing12
      @Symphing12 Рік тому

      G clarinets also existed at one point. I think they're still used in Turkey?

  • @martineyles
    @martineyles 7 років тому +8

    Before triggers, if the composer wanted notes below the chromatic range of the bass trombone, would they bridge the gap with notes in the tenor part?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому +5

      Proper composers wouldn't write notes that aren't playable - in the same way a decent composer wouldn't write a low F for a violin.

    • @martineyles
      @martineyles 7 років тому +1

      Trent Hamilton I'm not thinking of unplayable notes, more using the pedal notes on a tenor trombone and Bass Trombone in tandem. So perhaps a downward D arpeggio with a D in 6th as one of the lowest non-pedal notes on the G trombone A as a pedal in 2nd on the tenor, F# as a pedal in 5th on the tenor or pedal in second on the G trombone then D as a pedal in 6th on the G trombone. The two Ds can only be played on the Bass G, while the A can only be played on the tenor. Or are pedal notes not playable due to the bore? I've seen writing for natural horns in different keys where notes switch between players depending which crooks the notes fall in, but I'm not familiar with trombone repertoire.

    • @christopherdwane2844
      @christopherdwane2844 7 років тому +3

      The answer is yes, sort of, although I've not seen it done in continuous descending scales as you suggest . There is an example of something similar though in the planets suite by Holst (which was written for G bass trombone just like all early 20th Century British music) where a pedal Bb is given to the 2nd trombone to play instead of the bass. This is, as you say, because there is a gap in the register of the G bass between low Db in 7th, and the pedal register stating on pedal G. Of course any composer now would give pedal notes to the bass trombone instead.

    • @afloatingpineapple6170
      @afloatingpineapple6170 6 років тому +1

      Trent Hamilton haha my friend once asked me to play a low F on my violin but I also play bass trombone

  • @timzawicki1393
    @timzawicki1393 8 років тому +3

    The Bass Trombone as it is configured today is a Bb very large bore instrument. It has at least one valve that lowers the pitch to F with slide positions adjusted for the added tube length. The problem with this arrangement is that there is a hole in the chromatic scale that of B natural two octaves below the middle B natural on the piano keyboard. There are two places in the standard symphonic literature that require r
    that low B - Til Eulenspiegel by Ricard Strauss and the Bartok Concerto for Orchestra where it is the bottom of a solo gliss. The problem is that the gliss is not a true
    gliss since the B is only available with an instrument fitted with a second extending valve to put the instrument in low E and the gliss will break when the 2nd valve is released to end the gliss on 1st position F. It's a reasonable solution for any conductor save tiniest of perfectionist. For me using a single valve Bass with the single valve fo all except the two pieces mentioned is the intelligent choice. Jazz and studio guys are on their own as modern arrangers wrote as if there were no ergonomic problems negotiating the slide and the position of the left thumb

    • @Swedbander
      @Swedbander 8 років тому +1

      +Tim Zawicki The orchestra that Bartok was aquainted with used an F bass trombone configured just like the G bass except pitched one major second lower, as did many other (Central) European orchestras at the time (or sometimes an Eb). On the F bass the B natural is in seventh position and the F is in first, making it a true gliss. Strange that the F bass isn't making a comeback now when it has become so popular to play period music on the intruments they were originally written for.
      Here is a picture of a complete such set of trombones, made in 1887 by Courtois for the orchestra of the Royal Theatre of Stockholm: www.blackdiamondbrass.com/trbhist/courtoisfamily.jpg
      Alto in Eb, Tenor in Bb, Bass in F. (Written in Alto clef, Tenor clef, and Bass clef respectively.)

  • @marnikmeuwissen8452
    @marnikmeuwissen8452 9 років тому

    Finally a video about the G basstrombone :D Have you been able to use it in some kind of group? I used to own one, a besson too, sold it to somebody who uses it in in an ensemble that plays old music

  • @loekvanderheide3361
    @loekvanderheide3361 8 років тому

    The problem with extension loops on the tenor/bass trombones is, that with these extensions, the cyllindric tube in 3/4 of the instrument is extended.
    This problems occurs also with the valve bass-tuba's and also the Cimbasso's.
    For this reason, Giuseppe Verdi used for his bass-brasshorn foundation for a long time
    the 'corno in basso' an Italian version of the latter 'Ophicleide'. These brass-horns are fully conic and with this conical course troughout the whole pipe the same 'overtone-formants' So, the player does'nd need to make effort getting the clear sound.
    However, the core in the tone gives the Ophicleide player more efforts playing in tune.
    There are also Bass-trombone's in FF and so, also valve basstrombones of this tunings
    Similar to the Cimbasso's build in FF.
    From 1869 on, with the opera AIDA Verdi used the BBb Contrabass- valve trombone
    named as 'Trombone Basso "Verdi" ' Which this opera composer developed with the Milan instrumentbuilder Giuseppe Pelliti
    Loek van der Heide

  • @afloatingpineapple6170
    @afloatingpineapple6170 6 років тому +1

    I play bass trombone and my slide won’t reach C (Or E in tenor)

  • @helios5868
    @helios5868 4 роки тому

    Does anyone know where to buy a handle like the one on that bass trombone? My mom is learning tenor trombone, but cannot quite reach the lowest positions.

    • @mazon33
      @mazon33 4 роки тому

      Go to your local music shop and ask.

  • @jprotko3675
    @jprotko3675 5 років тому +3

    6:07 this isnt a "b flat major scale" (?)

  • @TheSacqueboute
    @TheSacqueboute 8 років тому +1

    Nice video don't usually get to see the other members of the trombone family being played. Although I take my alto to community band just for an excuse to play it or to annoy the bass trombonist. Mostly to annoy. :)
    At 1:17 that is a contrabass sackbut pitched an octave below the tenor. Basses were pitched a fourth below the tenor.

  • @gregorysomaviaii3386
    @gregorysomaviaii3386 7 років тому +7

    Trent, wouldn't the lowest note possible on a Bb trombone be a pedal E?

    • @Leo-vr3bg
      @Leo-vr3bg 7 років тому

      Pedals technically aren't within an instruments range, its a fake partial, kind of like the low GB partial under low Bb.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому +12

      No, that's completely wrong. The pedal notes are the actual fundamental tone of the instrument and the foundation note of the harmonic series.

    • @Leo-vr3bg
      @Leo-vr3bg 7 років тому

      then does the Gb partial below low Bb counts as a member of the harmonic series as well? Or the high Ab partial?

    • @mr.starfish4965
      @mr.starfish4965 4 роки тому +1

      Gregory Somavia II | I think he meant Chromatically. Yeah you can play that low, but not through a continuous chromatic scale. Unless you have a trigger, of course.

  • @snekles6449
    @snekles6449 7 років тому +2

    was that the veggie tales theme at the end

  • @aquawoelfly
    @aquawoelfly 5 років тому

    I understand it has to do with your buzz as well but im intrigued as to how trombonists know where to put the slide for which notes?
    Is it pure muscle memory (im sure this plays a large role) or is there a slight divit in the pipes that tells you to stop here.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  5 років тому +1

      Muscle memory, plus we can sake visual clues from the end of the bell.

  • @mausisbestwaifu8376
    @mausisbestwaifu8376 6 років тому +6

    4:26 🤔WHY IS THAT A THING

    • @lthegamingreactor7697
      @lthegamingreactor7697 3 роки тому

      There’s probably a valve for each note and octave🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺

  • @BassTrombone95
    @BassTrombone95 5 років тому +1

    I sometimes wonder what would have happened if development of the modern bass trombone had taken a completely different direction by staying in G or F, except if they had just added 2 valves it, removed the slide handle, and made the bore and bell size the same size as a modern Bb bass. Somewhat similar to a modern F contrabass trombone, but not quite as big. I think making bass trombones in Bb ultimately made them much easier to play and manage, but I do wonder how just modernizing the G and F basses would have gone. I'd be really interested in just seeing an experimental instrument like that built and played.

    • @swosheeplays9453
      @swosheeplays9453 Рік тому

      They did make G bass trombones with triggers to make them play in D or sometimes C
      Im unfamiliar with why they didnt catch on, ive been looking to add one to my collection but theyre near impossible to find outside of museums

  • @SasukeUchiha-tc9xx
    @SasukeUchiha-tc9xx 9 років тому

    In treble clef when I play on a trumpet, I have to play the D major scale for Concert C.
    I assume that same thing is in bass clef as well.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому +1

      No. In treble clef the composer writes the actual note you play, but in the bass clef the composer writes the pitch he wants you to play. In treble clef you'd write a D, but in bass clef the composer would write a C, and you'd play it as a treble clef D.

    • @SasukeUchiha-tc9xx
      @SasukeUchiha-tc9xx 9 років тому +1

      Ok thanks for the clarification

  • @georgehenry428
    @georgehenry428 7 років тому

    Hi Trent, Can you clarify a problem I have understanding the difference between Brass instruments made in the early 30's to modern instrument . I understand that the early instruments were classed as High Pitch and the modern ones as Modern(low pitch) I also think that the early instruments can be modified by adding tubing. Is this true?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому +1

      Hi, brass instruments used to be quite frequently in the key of A. There are instruments that switch between A and Bb, so that's one variable, another is that in the late 1930's the pitch of A was standardised at 440Hz. Before that, A was frequently tuned higher, and so that's where the 'high' and 'low' pitch comes in. Yes, it's possible to modify instruments, but your mileage will vary.

    • @georgehenry428
      @georgehenry428 7 років тому

      Many thanks for your quick reply. Can the High Pitch Instrument be played with the Low Pitch without any modification? ie; would they be in tune with each other?

    • @LeTromboniste0
      @LeTromboniste0 5 років тому

      ​@@georgehenry428 19th and early 20th century low pitch vs high pitch : High pitch was the "old philharmonic pitch", a=452 (about a quarter tone sharper than modern tuning). Low pitch, or "New philharmonic pitch", a=439 was adopted by the Royal Philharmonic Society in 1896, and eventually became the international standard (except raised to a=440, because 439 is a prime number and thus the math gets ugly when using that). But both standards coexisted for decades after that, particularly in brass bands and fanfares.
      20th century "high pitch" instruments often came with an extra, longer tuning slide to allow them to play in low pitch. Low pitch instruments cannot play in high pitch, since you can't shorten an instrument except permanently. So non, they would not be in tune unless you use a longer tuning slide on the high pitch instruments.

  • @lukundosingogo7825
    @lukundosingogo7825 Рік тому

    Wow I didn't expect that from G trombone

  • @louisdoherty1480
    @louisdoherty1480 8 років тому +1

    Can you do a video on blasting on brass instruments? I know you can blast on trombone and trumpet (years of playing clarinet will give you a pretty good idea of brass dynamics) and is it possible to blast on Clarinet and Sax? What about less common brass instruments (i.e. French horn, baritone, tuba, flugelhorn, cornet, etc.)

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому +1

      +Tools240 You can 'blast' on any brass instrument, although some are harder than others. Essentially, 'blasting' is just putting too much air through the instrument. The equivalent woodwind sound would be 'squeaking'.

    • @t0otall4u97
      @t0otall4u97 6 років тому +1

      With a hard enough reed you can make any sax sail out of an ensemble. I play bari sax in college and i can keep up with (most) of our sousaphones if im using a smallbore mouthpiece and a custom synthetic reed. The reed is eqivilant to a strength 6 or 7 cane. Its taken a while to get to that though. For clarinets, blasting wont come close to anything a sax or most any brass could do.

  • @minecarftmodrivewer
    @minecarftmodrivewer 7 років тому +1

    I personally like the old style design of bass trombones and the tuning that goes along with them, recently I have purchased an F contrabass trombone and I would like to here your opinion on using it as a substitution in jazz to a Bb bass trombone, I personally think it makes more sense having a "true" bass trombone rather than a large tenor, there is little documentation to the contrabass and as far as I know no one has used one for jazz so your opinion would be much appreciated.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому

      Unfortunately I simply can't say. I don't have an F Contrabass Trombone to review, and whether or not a standard bass trombone is better is entirely down to the music you play. Some pieces might sound better, others might sound worse.

    • @timscofield8929
      @timscofield8929 5 років тому

      Hi Marcus, A double rotor B flat bass trombone has a larger bore, bell and mouth piece than a large bore tenor trombone with F attachment. The sound is larger. Some people even accuse some of the larger bores, bells and mouthpieces to be so large as to start sounding like a tuba instead of a trombone. A modern bass trombone is a very nimble instrument and in the hands of the right person can play near the bottom of the piano.
      I would guess that your F contrabass has a larger bell, bore, mouthpiece and sound than a bass trombone. How many valves does it have and what pitch are they and what is the bore and bell diameter? Also how many positions does it have with and without valves engaged? I have allways guessed that the modern F contrabass had too small a bore and bell but they seemed to be used alot by pros in the recording industry.
      Hope I can hear back from you.

    • @timscofield8929
      @timscofield8929 5 років тому

      In answer to your question, I believe an F contra bass would not comfortably replace a bass trombone in a jazz band. A tenor with f attachment is sometimes called a tenor/bass trombone. With a large mouthpiece it will pass as a bass trombone and is even more robust and nimble than than the old no valve bass trombones of the past.

  • @LeTromboniste0
    @LeTromboniste0 5 років тому +1

    What you said about the bass sackbut being extremely heavy and unwieldy would apply more to the contrabass sackbut (in A an octave below the tenor) - of which you used a picture. Bass sackbuts in D, E or F (and there were already some in G as well (in fact the oldest surviving bass sackbut is in G!)) are of course somewhat unwieldy compared to a tenor trombone, but they're really not that hard to play. And they are definitely not made of particularly thick metal, particularly compared to a modern trombone.
    It's also not so much that they "developped" instruments in higher key, than that the pitch level shifted down a half step in the 18th century, and instrument that had been in D and E had now become instruments in Eb and F, despite having the same length of tubing as before.

  • @musicalguy9
    @musicalguy9 4 роки тому

    Nice I actually play trombone i had my 1st tenor trombone since the 90s and I got my bass trombone 12 years ago and got my other bass trombone 6 months ago

  • @GeorgePatrickStokes
    @GeorgePatrickStokes 9 років тому

    I may just be misunderstanding what you mean, but surely the lowest note you can hit on a bass trombone without triggers is a pedal F? Apologies if I've missed your point there

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому

      GeorgePatrickStokes On a normal Bb trombone, yes - but the trombone ins question is a G trombone - pitched down a minor third.

  • @mexicosbestorangejuicer
    @mexicosbestorangejuicer 8 років тому

    Someone answer this, saxophone treble, trombone bass, clarinet treble, tuba bass, sub contrabass saxophone treble? How does that make sense?

    • @DuelingPotato
      @DuelingPotato 8 років тому +1

      +Ghulle Drake because all saxophones have the same fingerings, excluding most baritone saxophones, which add a low A. Otherwise a Middle G is the same for Subcontrabass to Sopranino. This makes it easier for saxophones to switch instruments.

    • @mexicosbestorangejuicer
      @mexicosbestorangejuicer 8 років тому

      I mean for their clef

    • @DuelingPotato
      @DuelingPotato 8 років тому +2

      +Ghulle Drake The clefs are the same so you could go from one instrument to the other without having to learn another clef

    • @mexicosbestorangejuicer
      @mexicosbestorangejuicer 8 років тому

      Ok

  • @rangertim67
    @rangertim67 9 років тому

    Can a modern Bass Trombone reach as high as a normal C Trombone and Bb trombone? When playing the Bb trombone, I'm able to reach a low A without using any trigger(1st position and a very loose embrasure and it sounds kinda bad). On the Other hand, I can play as high as a Bb( from the lowest I can play) or even higher. Can a Bass trombone reach that high? I'm interested in playing the Bass trombone so I want to know these things before I decide to switch.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому +3

      How high you can get is all about the player, not the instrument :)

    • @MrRubik234
      @MrRubik234 9 років тому +2

      The tenor and bass trombone, at least I'm pretty sure they do, have identical upper registers (the higher notes) while they typically only differ in the lower range, in which the bass dominates. The bass is also slightly bigger in tube diameter and bell size, which gives it a fuller tone. And if I'm mistaken on any of this, please correct me.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому +3

      MrRubik234 The upper register depends entirely on the player. The lower register also depends on the player, but having triggers will enable you to achieve more notes. The bass does have a bigger tube diameter ('bore'), and bell size.

    • @ckeilah
      @ckeilah 5 років тому

      @@TrentHamilton so how is a "tenor trombone" with F attachment not a "bass trombone" or a "baritone trombone"? It seems like the only difference between "tenor with F" and "bass" may be bore size (although I think there are some big bore tenor trombones with F attachments) and maybe bell size (8" for tenor and 9-10" for bass), right? I'd been wondering why they put all these valves and attachments on such a nice instrument. I think I have a better understanding now, but I still find the simplicity of a PURE trombone appealing. Also, I have NO IDEA how to clean a valve trombone! Cleaning a straight trombone is easy. :-)

  • @nicholastrombone9899
    @nicholastrombone9899 7 років тому

    The captions are hilarious!

  • @cmw12
    @cmw12 4 роки тому +1

    Fun fact: The bass sackbutt was also known as the sackbadonkadonk.

  • @P0P4nd4
    @P0P4nd4 6 років тому

    Thank u!!

  • @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
    @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 9 років тому +4

    4:26- did an instrument like that actually have that many valves?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому +11

      No, it's a satirical image which pokes fun at tubas which can have 5-6+ valves.

    • @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
      @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 9 років тому +1

      LOL

    • @brennanherring9059
      @brennanherring9059 4 роки тому

      The idea is that if a tuba with that many valves existed, it could play every note perfectly in tune. You could probably do it with only 9 but even then it would be a nightmare to play.

  • @beverlygraves4401
    @beverlygraves4401 4 роки тому +1

    try blowing a more steady air stream when you play as to not make a nasty wah wah sound

  • @_Midori
    @_Midori 7 років тому

    There's an independent D Trigger for the G bass Trombone

  • @407kc9
    @407kc9 3 роки тому +1

    9:41

  • @senior4790
    @senior4790 2 роки тому

    Can you imagine adding triggers to the G trombone, can you imagine how low can you get?

  • @SasukeUchiha-tc9xx
    @SasukeUchiha-tc9xx 9 років тому

    Differences between old and modern trumpets
    1. Modern trumpets are made of brass instead of steel
    2. Old trumpets used Vienna valves
    3. They are 25% lighter

  • @arminthomas375
    @arminthomas375 9 років тому +2

    Do you have an F bass? I know that is the bass trombone that composers like Mozart and Beethoven wrote for.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому +2

      No, unfortunately I don't. My next major purchase will be (hopefully) either a better tenor trombone, or an F Contrabass

    • @arminthomas375
      @arminthomas375 9 років тому

      Some interesting trombones: wessex-tubas.com/product-category/brass-3/trombones/sackbut/

  • @mason11198
    @mason11198 6 років тому +1

    4:19 im dying of laughter XD

  • @5610winston
    @5610winston 7 років тому +1

    3:35 Bells are the same diameter? Either you need to get your eyes examined or I do!

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому

      The bell on the bass trombone is much closer to the camera.

  • @tristanchisholm5857
    @tristanchisholm5857 8 років тому

    want the other one a a C trombone instead of a B flat if the lowest note Is a n E?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому

      +Tristan Chisholm Sorry, I don't understand your comment.

    • @tristanchisholm5857
      @tristanchisholm5857 8 років тому

      Sorry Trent what I meant was wouldn't the other trombone be pitched in C instead of B flat because the lowest note is an E instead of an F? PS I'm a freshman so i could be wrong.

    • @tristanchisholm5857
      @tristanchisholm5857 8 років тому +1

      Oh ok

  • @natemain9258
    @natemain9258 8 років тому

    so I have a friend with perfect pitch and he told me that I hit a Db 0 octave on a Bb trombone... my highest note is an E 7 octave... the funny thing is I'm not that well rounded in tone quality so I'm not the best but my range is huge

    • @nickzakos271
      @nickzakos271 8 років тому +3

      Your friend was mistaken then. The lowest Db that's conceivable to play on even a contrabass trombone is Db1, the lowest Db on the piano. (If it helps to convince you, I have perfect pitch as well.)
      Also, E7 is nearly a full octave above the typical cap of the range of a trumpet, and near the highest notes that Maynard Ferguson was ever able to play. I've heard him pinch an F7, but only once.
      The point is, even if by some miracle you or anyone can hit those pitches, they're not really the edges of your range. They're not notes, just unfocused vibration.

    • @natemain9258
      @natemain9258 8 років тому

      +Nick Keriazakos they could be these but at the higher and lower ends of the scale. personally I have no idea, it could very well be a high Db 0 synonymous with low Db 1 and so on for the high notes. again I have no idea how to confirm these statements but I will say that these are very high and low notes on such a beautiful instrument.

    • @nickzakos271
      @nickzakos271 8 років тому

      Nate Main Beautiful indeed

  • @f-104starfighter7
    @f-104starfighter7 6 років тому

    I think in the 1900s they made trombones in g with attachments.

  • @renaissancejuan
    @renaissancejuan 5 років тому

    Why has the trombone family been developed so much in the past centuries?
    Simple.
    Composers and conductors were like "Yo. Those shits are fucking awesome. We definitely need to make them better so music can advance."
    Innovation comes from the need to improve!

  • @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
    @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 9 років тому +1

    You know tubas and euphoniums are basically the same thing, right?

    • @funnydummy1234
      @funnydummy1234 9 років тому +2

      They are much different. 2 completely different instruments.

    • @sethbutler4709
      @sethbutler4709 9 років тому +5

      funnydummy1234 Actually they aren't 2 different instruments. There are 5 different pitches in the tuba family, each having different tubing lengths. There's an 18 foot BBb tuba, a 16 foot CC tuba, a 13 foot Eb tuba, a 12 foot F tuba, and a 9 foot Bb Tuba. The BBb and CC tubas are called contrabass tubas, the Eb and F tubas are called bass tubas and the 9 foot tuba is called a tenor tuba. The tenor tuba and the euphonium are different names for the same instrument. The euphonium and tuba were both developed from the ophicleide. The euphonium is a type of tuba.

    • @carlenger9707
      @carlenger9707 7 років тому +2

      A euphonium plays at the same pitch as a tenor trombone, note the word "tenor". Tubas play an octave below the euphonium. Perhaps you were thinking of the Baritone?

  • @tervaaku
    @tervaaku 8 років тому +2

    that tuba though.

    • @carlenger9707
      @carlenger9707 8 років тому

      tuba? What tuba? He doesn't have a tuba. Do you mean the pedal tones?

    • @tervaaku
      @tervaaku 8 років тому

      +Svensk Gamer I don't remember what I was talking about. Hej då

    • @carlenger9707
      @carlenger9707 8 років тому

      What a Strange noise It's ok. Anyways, goodbye! :D

    • @Leo-vr3bg
      @Leo-vr3bg 7 років тому +1

      the picture of the tuba with 50 valves

  • @therealhelmholtz
    @therealhelmholtz 3 роки тому +1

    G FOR GARGANTUA!!!

  • @albertomayosoto
    @albertomayosoto 8 років тому

    but in G bass trombone, the B natural don´t exist! how you can prefer an incompleted instrument?

    • @carlenger9707
      @carlenger9707 7 років тому

      uhh.... yeah it does? I have one

    • @albertomayosoto
      @albertomayosoto 7 років тому

      sorry..

    • @carlenger9707
      @carlenger9707 7 років тому

      Don't worry about it, I was in a bad mood when I wrote that comment. Don't feel bad :D

    • @_Midori
      @_Midori 7 років тому

      Svensk Gamer you own a G bass Trombone???

    • @carlenger9707
      @carlenger9707 7 років тому +1

      Yes! My uncle had one and he didn't want it, so he gave it to me.

  • @stevebuttram3044
    @stevebuttram3044 7 років тому +3

    hey that's a really cool trombone

  • @pbdan1473
    @pbdan1473 8 років тому

    I have that

  • @ikabobilkhanipour9418
    @ikabobilkhanipour9418 7 років тому +1

    I am surprised he didn't drop this one

  • @drwho5252
    @drwho5252 5 років тому +12

    Please, please do not handle two instruments at one time. It's too easy to drop one of them.

    • @volt1068
      @volt1068 5 років тому +11

      He learned his lesson with the Tuba and Contrabass Trombone.

    • @dertgert6623
      @dertgert6623 4 роки тому

      ok boomer

    • @Qermaq
      @Qermaq 3 роки тому +1

      Unless they're accordions. Drop as many of those, as frequently as possible.

  • @perezd605
    @perezd605 5 років тому

    I play G Bass Tromebone

  • @DNKG669
    @DNKG669 2 роки тому

    3:57
    *sad piccolo trombone noises*

  • @sambloodsworth4421
    @sambloodsworth4421 7 років тому +1

    Hey man that trombone is awesome

  • @agyeifrimpong102
    @agyeifrimpong102 8 років тому

    Try and send me one trombone and one flugal horn

  • @f-104starfighter7
    @f-104starfighter7 6 років тому

    Is it just me or does anyone else just want to use a handle and play one of these?

  • @Mitioritos
    @Mitioritos 6 років тому +2

    The modern bass trombone can hit an octave lower from what you did. I feel ripped off

  • @BigDogCountry
    @BigDogCountry 4 роки тому

    I ilke the technical info you provide. But 3:34, no THEY ARE NOT,unless you gonna get out a tape measure. Bell on the right is WAY larger. And get a tape measure in inches, cuz the country that secures the free world don't give a shat about the metric system.

  • @agyeifrimpong102
    @agyeifrimpong102 8 років тому

    I like you boss

  • @InsaneVibz
    @InsaneVibz 5 років тому +1

    Stop the blatting!!!!!!!

  • @eh-zm2dh
    @eh-zm2dh 6 років тому

    なんでタイトルが日本語なの?

  • @Dan-sh1yf
    @Dan-sh1yf 4 роки тому

    i was 800th like lol