Sheik Optimized Throw Combos
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2019
- What's up everyone,
Throw combos are one of the core things in Sheiks gameplay. Her combo game is very important to understand, so for today I will go through her combo game off throws and showcase them optimized. I hope this video helps you out in understanding her throw combos!
It's very important to know that Fthrow is her main combo throw, and that all follow ups from Dthrow is DI dependant! On that note, have a blessed day!
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Amazing content as always, best video so far imo. I feel like repeating myselft too much with my coments but duude seriously, my Sheik is improving a lot, and thats all thanks to you and the passion you put into all these videos. Thank you so so much, i really mean it 💕
I swear, I love to see you in my comments, and I’m blessed to hear that these kinds of Videos really help you out ❤️ Thank you for making my days a Little better!
Very well done as always dude 👍
Meta Of Smash Thank you so much ❤️😊
4:44 can I just say pit dying in slo mo is funniest thing ever🤣
4:36 the moment frenzy discovered updraft ahead of time
This may be the best video in the channel
colin titouan Thank you so much, I appreciate this so incredibly much 💞
Continue like this, your videos are well done!
Sébastien Lacombe Thank you dude ❤️ Means the world to me 💞
Thank God you made this video.
I had no idea what to do with grab.
Bro thank you so much for the video you are my inspiration to master my sheik, keep going!!! :D
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I love this so much!
really clean video, succinct and effective. love it ! keep that shit up man
drac Thank you so much ❤️
I was actually playing sheik right now perfect timing
I was practicing his loop
Tyberious Pauldo Haha, good thing that this video was here 😊
*his* loop
oh god who's gonna tell him
Snuuuz yes? I I think?
Snuuuz yeah but what that magic do tho
The transformation should be complete by now
@@Ari.1460 shh no spoilers
Djnth0llmn from Snake Discord here! My friend is picking Sheik up again, this time as a secondary. I'm going to share this to him!
Jeremy Gan Heh Djnth0llmn!! Long time no see, hope your Friend has a blast with Sheik, tell him I said good luck and Wish both you and him all the best ❤️
This is like one of the best smash channels. How did I not know about this earlier
Woo! New frenzy light video!
Vaati Vanna You’re so sweet ❤️
I've been playing sheik on and off ever since ultimate came out. She's my favorite character to play but she felt very unrewarding and had to do way more work than other characters to get the same percent. After seeing your videos I've been feeling her all over again. Thanks Man!
I agree but if you look at the combos not only off of grabs and she can get combos going so far like even fair short hop loops to carry off stage is impressive and it does enough damage to even out
I love your guides
Hope one day i can jse sheik in a decent level TwT
Negro Meme Thank you, and me Too! VOID is already doing great
bruh this character for me is unusable online but landing her combos are satisfying af
neyun Exactly, literally shitty Character online, but pick her anyways haha
I always get the opponent to 130 then die before them
@@techno-- Gotta get your edge guarding up, that's what I'm working on since almost everyone in this game has a good recovery
@@matthewmorrison3745 that's how i get the majority of my kills, i just find it annoying sometimes cuz sheik has no strong forward facing aerials like joker
@@techno-- develop turning her to create a bair right before jumping
4:40
I feel you pit... I feel you
4:49
You should upload ranked matches. great vid btw
yaboi uzichiha Thank you so much ❤️ Going to try and make a Montage soon
@@FrenzyLight what subscriber matches too?
Damn, sheik is so cool
2:36 and 2:40 are dthrow, not fthrow 🤙
I was labing a 60 percent combo. If you teact to their di it's true and I feel it can push sheik's meta. Fair, dthrow, up air down, fthrow, fullhop(charded)needls, up air, fthrow, bfish
Heads up in some combos your notations say Fthrow when you Dthrow in the clip (2:35).
1:39 Who does this work on? I rly want to master this combo, it looks hype. Also, hi from a fellow sheik player
I wish you could explain the angle that i need to tilt my analog stick in order to land f throw -> bfish
i’ve recently experimented with sheik and a good mix up is to condition ur opponent to shield when u jump at them and then jump in front of them and throw out side b so the bomb lands behind them and down tilt for a kill 100-ish percent
Why exactly is that good. Grenade is horrible in neutral usually, it’s way too laggy. It’s most useful when setting up for ledgetrapping, and edgeguarding. There are better options you could do in that situation
@@michael6636d6 my brother I made that comment years ago when I’d only been playing smash for a few months lmao
@@berk8513 makes sense
for fthrow bouncing fish do you hav to angle the bouncing fish I always miss
It isnt true but Back throw to double jump bfish has worked reliably well for me, at mid to high percents. Its a good use at ledge
For the needles to bouncing fish do you use the short down b or long one???
Depends on their percent and di
I have been enlightened....
Do you have to fastfall in the sheik loop? Because O did it without fastfalling and just delayed the up air a little bit so sheik would hit the ground before the last hit but I’m not sure if it is still true
You need to fast fall, and if you need a Little more in depth guide on the topic, link is in the description
Thanks
damn can't get the needles to connect after f-throw
1:52 I do not understand how to buffer the needles and jump. it always ends up with me doing needles on the ground or just jumping and doing needles at the top. any help?
It’s all about timing. F throw > dash forward > jump > needles. I kind of do a sliding motion with my finger so I quickly hit the y button and then slide down on the b button so I can do a full hop rising needles as quick as possible. If you press the jump very quickly during this sliding motion, you can also get an instant shorthop rising needles, which is useful for other combos.
1:42 would it work if I put Bouncing fish at the end instead of bair?
Mad Sadly isn’t true, safer to go for Bair
I don’t know how I play sheik and do long chain combos... but I do it haha
2:45 but you can punish that with a regrab (the DI away + airdodge)
Nuetral airdodge?
@@tobiaszeller4323 might be an option but I didn't test that but in game I allways got the punish on the directional airdodge mabye some of these were neutral airdodges. I don't know
How do you buffer the needles from the full hop?
Check out my «Needle tech» video!
Frenzy Light siiick thanks my dude
I think Ill stick with f throw boincing fish at 0 for my enitre throw combo game, but thanks
Ok seriously i never get shiek’s spike hitbox. Everytime i hit someone with dair they don’t go down and I die
The hitbox is only at the very start, so you have to hit them when They are literally Either inside you or when they’re at your feet, otherwise They just Get hit away
The way the made her spike is weird as fuck but thanks.
@@spaghettidrugs907 that’s how a lot of falling spikes are. You have to actually time the move to get the spike
does f tlit grab still work in ultimate?
Eclipsed Soul Yes 😊🙏
that cheers my soul that is still a thing.😁👌
Eclipsed Soul haha, well it does to me too
Is ftilt to dash grab true cuz I usually only go for it when I know they mash airdogde.
Amazing as well it was well worth it
Nathan Victoriano That is true 😊
BUT HOW DO WE KNOW YOU’VE BEEN ACTUALLY MAINING SHEIK FOR 10 YEARS AND YOU’RE NOT LYING
Mad I don’t know How to prove it to you, it’s not documented that far back, you’ll just have to Trust me, but that’ll be on you really.
K i trust you
2:40 it's Bthrow i think and not fthrow
Cool combos for 40% that you can’t use after 55%
Why can people get out of my combos easily?
because she has no combos. Depends on DI. If u play against someone who is shit you can "combo" him a´hard.Good players can react very fast. There is a reason why most sheik mains drop her. Almost no combos, extreme low damage, cant kill.
Sheik has a hard time racking up damage🤪
•_••_• yeah... no xD
•_••_• It be nice if Sheik can do more damage when she has her needles charged
Today’s video is sponsored by raid shadow legend
Maybe not...
colin titouan Sadly not sponsored ):
2:38 it says fthrow it should be dthrow
2:41. This is d throw. Not f throw
just want to verify - a lot of the needles stuff isn't true right
I dont think really any of these are true. Fthrow > Fair isn’t a true combo if your opponent DIs.
Great quality video though i appreciate the effort. It’s just that these will only work against noobs. And can only work against good players if they screw up and miss their DI.
DI can be read and chased. Shiek can be optimized to punish DI out so she can condition for DI in.
Brachmin Dunsparce
I definatly have trouble punishing DI out. Could you offer any suggestions/tips for chasing DI out on throws?
@@sd-king2916 I'm not too much of a shiek expert, but getting in a position where di out = landing on a platform helps a lot. If you have a second controller to di out with, lab out the the percents and distances for landing on platforms with fthrow, or ask sheikcords for answers because they probably have some info.
Why are none of these tested with di? :/
@@snuuuz fthrow to usmash is nowhere near true with di
Right except they don’t.
The basis for 90% of these combos is Fthrow > fair. Which is not a true combo unless they are like below ten or something. You can just DI it. So almost none of these are true combos and only work if your opponent misses their DI.
I'm pretty sure fthrow > bfish is not true at all lmao
Yes it is. It is a very beginner level sheik true combo that starts working at 0. Doesn’t come up as true on the combo counter until a percent like 20 or something, but it is completely true even at 0. The combo counter is accurate sometimes, but sometimes it isn’t