Sd.Kfz. 132 ‘Marder II’ - Petite tank, really big gun
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2020
- Even before the Second World War, the famous German tank commander Heinz Guderian had predicted the need for highly mobile self-propelled anti-tank vehicles, later known as Panzerjäger or Jagdpanzer (tank destroyer or hunter). However, in the early years of the war, beside the 4.7 cm PaK (t) (Sfl) auf Pz.Kpfw. I ohne turm, which was in essence just a 4.7 cm PaK (t) gun mounted on a modified Panzer I Ausf.B tank hull, the Germans did little to develop such vehicles. During the invasion of the Soviet Union, the Wehrmacht encountered the T-34 and KV series tanks, which they had trouble dealing with effectively. Fortunately for the Germans, they also managed to capture large numbers of the 7.62 cm field gun (M1936) which had good anti-tank firepower. This gun was immediately put to use by the German ground forces, but mobility was an issue, so an idea appeared to install this gun on the Panzer II tank chassis in order to increase its mobility. The new vehicle belonged to a series of vehicles generally known today as the ‘Marder’ (Marten).
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An article by Marko Pantelic
Video mounted by Jim Zawacki
Audio edited by Kraiger
Voicing by Nathaniel McDonald
Just a suggestion for the future. If you have limited footage of the vehicle being discussed, then it is better to just leave a still image on the screen, rather than have unrelated tanks shown.
Absolutely
Agreed. That’s what Mark Felton does. Much more effective in my opinion.
Can only agree. I was wondering why jeeps and landing craft were featured in this video. Still, I enjoyed the information that was made available to us.
Yeah isn't that a chaffee running around?
Very interesting, but, in the future, don't use footage of American armor, rather use a still photo of the subject you're covering.
Agreed
Agreed too
Agreed..
Yes I was going to say the same exact thing
Pretty weak footage curatorship.
What's up with all the unrelated b-roll footage? Why are we watching a jeep roll through deep water?
unrelated but kinda neat though
Agreed! It is very annoying to anyone that has any basic knowledge of military equipment.
Like others, I would say, if you don't have appropriate footage, put a still image up. The unrelated footage is jarring.
If we are to think of this as a primally audio feature then we do not need moving pictures. Especially ones that are not related to the subject at hand.
It also sounds as if the article could do with a little editing to make it flow better.
Apart from that I am enjoying this series. Thanks.
Well given information, but like other comments already said next time use still images if you dont have footage of the vehicle.
Sorry, but the training footage seemed more interesting than what you were telling us. Can we have a video on that please.
As I understand, running tanks on the highway encountered a submarine-jeep mounting a 7.62 anti-tank gun found in Aberdeen during a journalistic footage.
You put the official name for the Marder on the screen on top of a M26 Pershing Tank. Nice footage of an American late war tank., the Pershing, but I came here for the Marder.
Sorry brother next time can you do a piece about Aberdeen proving ground. Just a thought.
An interesting subject, but as others have said anything visual not related to the Marder was distracting.
As far as I can tell, "Panzerjäger" described an open-top vehicle like the Marder, whereas a "Jagdpanzer" was a fully enclosed vehicle like the Hetzer, Jagdpanter or Jagdpanzer !V
I noticed later on in the video the American tank footage is gone. Better to leave it out pal. Your information and the actual footage you have of these marder TVs is very impressive. 😎
Don't know what Us tanks has to do with the Marder series of vehicles.
I really enjoy the random footage that you insert when you run out of the subject matter.
It's not as if you're those Dark Sky dimwits that don't know what they've put up, or the bollocks they tell you.
:)
Just found this channel and love it
Sd.Kfz. 132 ‘Marder II’ a WW2 vehicle. Then why are you showing a lot of US cold war vehicles? At least a 1/3 of this video shows things that has nothing to do with either the Sd.Kfz. 132 ‘Marder II’ or Germany.
If you can't find enough pictures or videos of the vehicle in question. Then show the pics that you have. Or run the videos multiple times.
Instead of filling the videos with things that have nothing to do with the topic you are talking about.
Hello Henke,
The video editor just put some filler material to cover some of the dead periods.
This series is thought of as a podcast, audio-only. The photos are a bonus and the videos are usually just filler.
It is quite hard to find appropriate video material for these fillers, especially as we have 0 budget for these videos.
All the best
Then no pics at all is better.
Totally agree
The text is good and seems to have had a good research. But it would be better to have fewer images of the actual thing than add other footage.
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Did you know that the soviets had a similar TD Ertz conversion called the SU76i ? The body was from a German Stug and the gun was the Soviet 76 mm you mentioned the murders used. It was fully enclosed and a very successful TD used at the Battle of Kursk. The Soviet crews loved them because or the fire power and excellent German power train and running gear !😉
Could you please do an episode about the Aberdeen Proving Grounds but show us panzers being tested?
ROFL. That footage of a jeep going through water was awesome in its own right. But f***ing weird in this context. Love your retort.
What is that sci -fi stuff at the end anyway? Did the nazi's plan on replacing the marder 2 with some kind of guided missle thing? The crew of the Marder probably would have appreciated it.
I realize that the few Sd. Kfz. 132 produced went to the Russian front and that very few surviving examples exist, you could have used still photos of the vehicle. What was all of that Aberdeen Proving Ground footage? And the keep going under the water? That was weird!
The intersplicing of Aberdeen footage must be a mistake!
Always watch ones productions before releasing to the public.
That footage of the jeep driving through the water was hilarious. That poor driver, soaked up to his chest.
If you can't provide pictures or video of the discussed machine, don't.
Why am I watching a jeep while your talking about tanks
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I like how the Germans back then keep giving long names to their military vehicles
Marder was probably closer to what the US Army tank destroyer proponents wanted than the early truck mounted 37 mm M3 guns or the 75 mm halftrack GMC M3.
As for re-chambering to 7.5 cm: I have seen a German manuals (e.g., H.Dv. 481/85 Merkblatt für die Munition der 7.62 cm Panzerjägerkanone 36 1942 [in German] Wikipedia references this document ... ) which is quite clear that 7.62 cm shells (projectiles) were mated to a "necked out" 75x714mm R cartridge case of the 7.5 cm PAK 40. To use 75 mm shells would require relining the barrel down to 75 mm as opposed to boring out the chambers from Soviet standard 76x385R (90 mm nominal rim diameter) mm to 76.2x714R mm (100 mm rim diameter) and other modifications to the breech block & such.
Imagine being a Marder crewman during a long road march. Rain, sleet snow, whatever nature offers. Driver has the sweet spot tho. Any information on field mods to accommodate the crew??
They had a tarp they could pull over the crew compartment. Kept the water and wind out, but not the cold
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT I'm thinking a small alchohol or white fuel kinda heater would have been an option. Using it under the tarp. Grunts find a way right.
At timestamp 22:00 a antenna like aerial setup is shown immediately after the large American cannon is fired. What is this item? Is this a primitive chronometer? any ideas??
dammit. still bothering me. Has to be relevant to the cannon shot shown just beforehand. i still say its a chrono of some type. or a projectile tracking radar of a primitive type
Those vehicles without muzzle brakes are simply photos where wartime censors deleted the brakes
Really great to click on a German WW2 tank video and watch a video of 50's era US equipment (M38 jeep,M35 6x6's,and M48 tank to name a few) under tests at Aberdeen while listening to the explanation of said German equipment and it's development........
Was it the 1st day of the WWW when you decided to make this video and had very little footage to go on? WTF...
May as well read a book folks...
Its ok for me, i love such cold war training Films, f... the boring Marder!
@@Sturminfantrist You're too stupid to get the point then,huh?
The topic is the Marder II not Cold War footage......but then you'd known this instead of it being about that boring Marder because you wouldn't want to have clicked on something that was supposed to do with a Marder...noooo
something doesn't jive the background and the story, think you got it right, just ya, the pictures in the background messed me up.
T8? Perhaps a KV8 (with 45mm gun and flamethrower)? There were some built. I dunno about employment or distribution, though.
Or T18? That would be scary.
Agree, do not use unrelated video from a different country and a different decade.
14:35 The Drivers armor is 35cm (350mm) thick
14:38 35 cm on the front plate? god damn
Battleship armor on a tank
Germany also had problems with some French tanks.. But french doctrine and use made the issue not a problem in 1940.
according to soviet records, most t34s were knocked out in the early part of the war by panzer III with either the 50mm L46 or 37mm gun because of poor metallurgy
So is this The Big Picture video or a Marder video?
What the heck was that loooong heavy transporter at around the 12 minute mark??? Some kind of artillery?????
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M65_atomic_cannon
Interesting article!
Can I ask for you to do the Marder III?
I've watched your article on the Pz38(t), and see you have another one for Hungarian T-38's - so an article on one of the most numerous mid-war mobile anti-tank system would both complete the Lt-38 "set", as well as highlight the major mid-war SPG (at least until the Stug production ramped up in 1943/1944).
Thanks! Matt.
We have one of the Marder IIIs done in article format.
tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/germany/panzerjager-38t-fur-7-62-cm-pak-36r-sd-kfz-139-marder-iii/
As for the others, while they are within our sights and within our scope, they are not currently in the works. You can add them to our Public Suggestion List and you can help by adding more sources (or other suggested articles)
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@@TanksEncyclopediaYT THANKS!
Nice shot of the Atomic Cannon. Was that the Marder IV?
I never understood the point of Atomic Annie as she would have been taken out in the first stages of WW3 to prevent her use. But shot Grable when she was tested certainly produced some unexpected results.
It won't play in full screen?
To be honest, germans were not impressed by T-34, quite the opposite, they considered It trash... The real tank that impressed them was the kv-1. They didn't even consider the T-34 until It got the 3 man turret
What’s up with the audio?
Matilda isn't a panzer, wrong picture.
What the hell does jeeps shown have to do with anything?
I like the old pictures of American tanks but it doesn't quite go with the subject.
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Atomic Annie footage?
On a tank video?
Okay
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Why does the video show random clips of the u.s. army?
Did you record this in your bathroom? Echoes
first 1/4 and other parts of film is irrelevant footage of 50's us Armour and other vehicles?
I generally enjoy and appreciate this channel's videos, but the extensive use of footage completely unrelated to the subject matter is distracting and amateurish.
If this was the first Tank Encyclopedia video a new viewer saw, he could easily come to the mistaken conclusion that this channel didn't know what it was talking about.
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My mistake.
I failed to notice the age of the video. For some reason it popped up in my notifications as if it were a new one.
let me know if you'd like a voiceover for a tank, I have a channel where I impersonate voices for animated parody vids
Fine info but very confusing with all the irrelevant video of other vehicles?
Nice pics but OT mostly.
Unintelligible, immaterial videos. 0__0
Well, good riddance then
Why i see only films from USA?
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@@TanksEncyclopediaYT OK, thanks for fast respond and explanation. I relly like that you showing this particular model of tank destroyer - as it is one of most iconic German equipment from WW2 - so fine even so ugly.
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You're talking Marder and showing US Jeeps. What next, your cat? Otherwise this would have been good.
Rabbits, but that's another video.
Living toaster
That was plain annoying and confusing. Might as well have inserted still paintings from the batlle of Hastings or Waterloo in the background. Same thing.
Talk about the Mauser maybe? Do we need the entire history since the invention of the wheel to hear the details of the Mauder?
You lost me
Interesting subject but why oh why so much totally unrelated post war US Army proving ground footage... very disappointing - should be redone with relevant footage and/or stills that match the narration
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@@AKUJIVALDO Apologies what?
We have only one German tank on the Patreon tiers because we tried to have tanks from all nations on the list. Not dissing everyone.
As for the Tiger II article, there's no bias in there, we did our best with our available sources. Of course, we'll never satisfy either the Wehraboos or the haters, but we're so not interested in that. Also, if you want even more detail in a 50 page article, you want too much for free buddy.
It was the Soviet 76mm 1936 F22 on this marder if I remember right!
Says so both in the video and the description (and in the associated article on our website).
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT OK never heard it
I found the unrelated video to be distracting and annoying just use a still image or a drawing anything but a jeep crossing a water ditch or 2 dudes standing on an off ramp
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The German can effectively defeat T34 in 1942, mean while the US having trouble pentrate it in Korean War. 1951.
We have not seen any evidence that the US forces in Korea (76 mm Shermans, Pershings) had any trouble in dealing with the T-34. The only tank that would be struggling would be the Chaffee, which was a large component of the first response troops.
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT think im mistaken with IS2? Though soviet armor have some rng elements, with the t80u.
A chain drive rammer? In my day we would ram 16 inch shells with nothing but love of country for a assist. We beat those Spaniards good!
What's with a lot of Aberdeen footage? And the CFB Borden gun is not Russian guys. Amateur...
What’s with the video of the water testing? Seems to have NOTHING to do with the video. Stupid to include it.
What's with the unrelated video? I'm outta here.
Big down vote for the unrelated video footage.
The picture shown as an example for the absence of a muzzlebreak looks more like a WW2 "censored" picture in which the muzzlebreaks were removed.
For some reason the german censor sometimes deemed muzzlebreaks as "secret" information.
I think I've encountered another removed/censored muzzlebreak in a picture many years ago (can't remember which picture/when though).
22:57 petiter.
The usa tank look like a M48
Please omit irrelevant films of other AFVs
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I came here for the Marder but stayed because of US Army testing M38, M-48 ect., i love such cold war era Army Footage/test/training Films ect. US, German or british they are all welcome
pz I was a training vehicle, designed to be a training vehicle and nothing else. Get your facts straight.
@@AKUJIVALDO Wow...ok. Stay ignorant. Not my problem.
Sorry.. not staying with this channel... watching cold war vehicles is not relevent..
BTW a real problem with these pz II conversions was that the factories kept screwing over the wermacht by substituting mild steel for armour plate. . With predictable results..
You get a dislike, because of the random footage
The off topic video filler is a trip and kinda annoying
Too much unrelated bs on the screen.
REALLY stupid and annoying having to watch utterly unrelated footage. I only watched half of the presentation, disappointing, as the Marder series of vehicles is very interesting.
Ur video is completely inappropriate.
Repetitive.