@@untitledtherapistin fact I have read a fantastic fanfic, and in it Saera has a bastard (fathered by a Volantene) who claims The Cannibal during the seeding of the dragons.
In the books cannibal didn't allow anyone to tame him. The only reason cannibal stayed in dragonstone is to feed on the dead dragons. He didn't allow anyone near. So without a rider we might not see him in the show as there is no plot around him
Well, the Director has already said that they made models for all three of the wild dragons including Cannibal. Considering the extreme amount of money it takes just to make one dragon, I doubt they did it for fun. Will cannibal be a part of the story, absolutely not. Will we see him on screen, in mention, flying by, or feeding on some corpse or something? Possibly and very likely. 😘❤️🔥
@@bebesofttSilver Denys was casted and his whole role is for him and his sons to be eating by the Cannibal, so I’m assuming we’re going to to him when the sowing happens.
I hope he never gets tamed by anyone and follows no one because which and all dragons actually did, they lost their lives for these pathetic humans' petty fights for throne. These majestic creatures deserve much better. They can live up to 100 years, can fly free, can burn anything if the will to, but still chose to give up their lives in such young age for these humans who even humiliates these dragons' dead body instead of giving a proper funeral. They don't deserve these majestic creatures tbh.
The Writer of the book has made it clear so many times Balerion was the biggest, The order was Balerion, Meraxes, Vhagar, they were the original three used in Aegon's Conquest then Vermithor, Meleys.
@@Stoic_PersistenceVermithor is said to be the biggest dragon after Vhagar and Balerion, taking that to account I think it’s safe to assume that Vermithor is probably bigger than him.
That was in the conquest. Vhagar is now number two to Balerion. You also have to remember this show while based on the books does not fully follow the canon of the book so if they want the Cannibal to be bigger than Balerion to get more views they will do so.
Even for just a second if they tried to tame Cannibal for war, it would leave charred skeletons, if they did that in HOTD that would be stupid but cool, we would get to see how big Cannibal actually is.
it wasn't that big! and it stayed clear of other large dragons, it only ate dragons smaller than it and didn't have much interest in humans. Vermithor was the Dragon that people feared... of course Targaryens worried that the Cannibal would eat their smaller dragons so it was still a problem to Targaryens! But that's it!
@@Dracorientalisyeah logically, if the cannibal was bigger than vhagar or even just as big as vermithor, they’d mention him all the time. He’d be worth thousands of dragon seeds to claim
@@pain002 no. he's not an unclaimed dragon. he's a wild dragon. They tried claiming him 20+ times and they all ended up as smoking corpses. And the bigger a dragon is the harder it is to get them to bond.
@@seanflick3378 You have no proof of that at all. It's not once said in the books nor has Martin mentioned anything about it. It's only even theorized by fans that he wasn't the biggest ever as he was the only one born in Valeria while being bigger than any Dragon born outside of it.
@@Reina5342 If we theorize than yes valyrian dragons can be even bigger than westros dragons due to the climate and environment (also sorcery to some extent).
The assumption that Cannibal is bigger than Balerion is incorrect for at least three reasons: 1. If it were bigger, it would be called "largest dragon" and not " largest WILD dragon". 2. Vhagar would not be called the biggest dragon that lived during the Dance. 3. Balerion would not be referred to as the largest and oldest dragon living in Westeros. If Cannibal was number one, someone would call him that at least once.
Cannibal is not a public figure. He is called wild cause he lives on Dragonstone and has no rider. Though this dragon isn't well researched, there are hints in "Fire and Blood" that he is as big or bigger than Balerion. I think sooner or later we will see him on the screen, maybe with some cool original lore from HOTD creators.
@@cegshortsDragon seeds had seen him, but still they ranked dragon size by this consequence Balerion > Vhagar > Vermithor. If he is really bigger than Vermithor or Vhagar there will be some claims about him, however there have none.
Dude be acting as if fictional characters that only exist when they are integrated in the story by the author would somehow have a life outside what was written😂😂😂💀😭
This is easily proven false by a singular fact. The Cannibal is not a Targaryen dragon, as such they have no records of it's age or size and neither is he safe to approach or measure him since, yk, he'd probably kill and/or eat you. There's also the fact that Cannibal sightings have always been rare in the books so gauging his size accurately is nearly impossible. The fact that the Cannibal has been around the longest AND that he has not lived a day in captivity which hinders a dragon's growth as stated in the books is enough reason to consider him to be very easily bigger than Balerion.
I Believe what's said was "Cannibal is said to have been the eldest and largest of the wild dragons having taken part in the Sowing, being therefore even older than Sheepstealer. Some among the smallfolk of Dragonstone claimed that the Cannibal lived on the island even before the Targaryens arrived in 114 BC, a possibility that would make him, despite his size not being considered bigger than that of Vhagar and Vermithor, the oldest living dragon in Westeros at the time of the Dance of the Dragons, even older than Vhagar". Balerion will always be the Boss heheh
@@shaundolheguy2716the httyd species are very interesting but clearly not bound by any sort of realism. Gronkls should be unable to fly, yet they do. But I agree. nightfurries would be damn right unbeatable and that’s not even up for debate. If a permanently injured toothless killed the red death, no dragon in hotd would stand a chance
Dragons growing in wild grow to thier max size and they keep growing until death this is already confirmed in the books so its impossible that cannibal a wild dragon which eats other dragon is smaller than ballerion Its also said sheep stealer was close to vermithors size and that may be true and cannibal is larger than sheep stealer so cannibal is larger than vermithor They reason why viewers dont agree that cannibal is probably larger than balerion or of same size is because the writters didnt give anything more about him But if u actually look at everything which has been told about dragons in genral than u can easily say cannibal isnt smaller than ballerion And also when they address size of dragons they say “largest of targeryean dragon” or “largest seen dragon” So it could be safe to say that cannibal probably hunted at night when its easier and less troublesome rather than at day when people and dragons are awake basically less resistance from the prey Think about it T-Rex was one of the largest predators and yet it chose to scavange rather than hunt so same applies for cannibal too
they should show the cannibal in the movie show up mid battle and terrify both sides that theyll have to flee to fight another day and it just flies away
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
No way Cannibal can be bigger than Balerion. It was just said that ge was the biggest of the WILD dragons. If he was as big, or bigger than Vhagar, the characters would mention him a LOT more
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
If you go according to books Balerion is the biggest dragon in history. But according to some readers cannibal lived more than balerion and is said to be alive after dance of dragon.So it makes sense they both are equal or canibal is more bigger.
@@seanflick3378there is no proof of this just speculation. Stop with misinformation. Im talking about valyrian dragons being larger than balerion, while it’s possible it’s not known.
Biggest dragon in the history of westeros and the 7 kingdoms* Biggest dragon ever? Very very doubtful. Old valyrians were the masters of dragons, and they had magic; meaning their dragons could grow and grow for centuries, and they also had thousands of them. Everything was destroyed when doom happened so they dont know except rumours and whispers.
The theory that the cannibal is bigger than Belrion makes no sense. If the Cannibal was that dangerous then bigger dragons would have to worry about him but he only attacked baby dragons, or hatchlings which means he wouldn’t have possed a threat to larger dragons. Large dragons have lived on dragon stone for years before the dragon pit and no dragons larger then babies were hunted by the cannibal. He is likely stunted in growth because he wouldn’t have had that much access to food if eating dragons is his main source of food so his growth would be stunted as dragons need a large food source as well as open space
Pretty sure Cannibal is described as only eating smaller dragons simply because they're easy prey and have 0 chance of fighting back. Don't see why he wouldn't also be eating sheep etc like the others. He's only not a threat to larger dragons because he doesn't prey on them. With a rider or motivation he absolutely could be a threat and imo this does not imply he's stunted in growth.
Animals always go path of least resistance. It's why you're supposed to get big and noisy. He never bonded w a rider, so I think he's just operating on base animal instincts.
@@woody00011 if he'd be bigger than Balerion then probably only Vermithor could pose any danger at all. Medium sized dragons should be no problem and yet he did not eat them. ... because he was not as big as you try to make him - as simple as that. Even GRRM explicitly stated that Vhagar and Vermithor were two biggest DRAGONS (not KNOWN dragons) during The Dance. Being of Silverwing size explains perfectly why he did prey only on small dragons - because he himself was not big enough.
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
Funny thing is, we don't even know what happened to him 😂 there are theorys his bones are found by Rhakaro but imagine he just shows up in winds at like 300yr old
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
@@pain002he probably would be in pretty good condition since he mostly went after easy prey and avoided fights, really the only way a wild dragon could survive so long
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal he or she was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
No we haven’t seen this wild dragon “Cannibal” in HOTD S2. So eagerly waiting to see “Cannibal” & “Balerion” in Flashbacks. But we’ve seen just one wild dragon “Sheepstealer”
The books never say that Cannibal is bigger than Balerion. Balerion is bigger and stronger than Cannibal. Go read the books and don't give false information.
He hates targaryen and chances are he was from the other rival house from valeria.. many tried to claim him and now turned into skeletons. I also feel he wont show up in HOTD.
Th yea really need to make a show about old Valeria I’m so curious especially since the targaryens didn’t run the show back then and weren’t the only ones with dragons
@@miikeyrph8519 that shot is of Dragonstone (canibal was never at dragon stone during dod and it's too dangerous for rhanerya to stand in front of it) And i can tell you one more point regarding it but it is a small spoiler
Cannibal is roughly the size of vermithor, if he was on dragonstone before the targaryens and to be of a size of note he would have to be over 340 years old, vhagar is 180 and wrll past her prime, bealerion was 208 when he died and just prior to his death was described as fat and slow, even if cannibal was kept active by being wild he would have to have outlived balerion by over 100 years. Considering vhagar is canonically the largest dragon at the time of HOTD hes probably around 110 to 130 years old
Cannibal is the biggest of 3 wild dragons and rumoured to be smaller than vermithor the 3rd largest dragon, so not really bigger than Balerion or Vhagar.
Where do these wild dragons on dragon stone live? I assume they have to be somewhere. There’s people all over that castle, if he was bigger than Vahgar, someone would have said something. I assume the dragons on the Black side are as big as him or else they would mention how he could help them in the war.
Dragonstone is an island and if you look at the maps you'll see that it's pretty big. It's is actually big enough to even hide a dragon and it will be depicted in the future seasons of HOTD. I do not wish to spoil anything so far🤞
@@cegshorts I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
It is true Balerion is and the largest dragon to ever live in Westeros. The Cannibal wasn't a small dragon but it wasn't that big either and only ate dragons smaller than it, it stay clear of the dragons larger that it, Caraxes, Meleys, Vermithor, Silverwing these Dragons are all of the same size or larger than the Cannibal. I have NO idea were this idea of the Cannibal being massive came from?!!
@@mikemiken1963 Well thats not what this video is claiming and again, it stays away from the larger Dragons. Meleys and Caraxes are also "almost Vhagars size"
Bro tbh who cares if it’s lore accurate. It’s all fiction at the end of the day. If they can portray cannibal as big or bigger than balerion it would be cool to see.
You won't see cannibal.. and it's a good thing because the basic writers of the show will make it so the war against the families stop so they can kill cannibal... Kinda like king Kong Vs Godzilla was meant to be just that but instead they teamed up to fight the other monster instead 🙄
I wanna see a dragon seed attempting to bond with a mid size dragon. Them out of nowhere cannibal swoops down and snatches the dragon in its massive jaws. That would be sick
Cannibal is not the biggest dragon he is only “the biggest wild dragon”. Martin has flat out said Balerion is the biggest of all time. Cannibal is smaller than Ragar and Verm. Reddit has this debate and drawing from the books it is pretty straightforward he is not the biggest all time.
He disappeared after HOTD probably due to his food source being dragons being mostly killed of due to the war. This means it’s possible it fled elsewhere away from Westeros in search for more food meaning it could still be alive in GOT
Completely false. Cannibal was even inferior in size to vermithor, so with certainty we can assume that this dragon was smaller than Balerion and Vhaegar too or even meraxes
Cannibal was nowhere near Vaghars size or that of even vermithor, had it been near that big, it would pose serious threat to all the smaller dragons and beasts such as seasmoke and others would also happen to fall in that category, save Vermithor and Vaghar as Cannibal was known to go for smaller creatures….so that would make Cannibal’s very existence a threat and a serious concern for the rulers, because they rule with the power provided by dragons they had, and Cannibal would be a concern so big that he’d probably be a significant part of story…which he is not, and though its true cannibal is old that doesn’t mean he’d be as big, growing is different for all dragons….dragon that big is no joke to find sparse mentions
Cannibal being larger than Vhagar and Balerion is just a theory, a rumour at best
You know if they show him in HOTD they’re gonna make him the biggest mfer on the planet.
Yeah, they seem to be taking some of the rumours as facts and bending the lore.
Bro has as much lore as the fire worms 💀
Exactly
@@andrewgeissler8887yes give it to us
Imagine aemond and vhagar being hunted by cannibal 😂
And that the dragon is riden by one in team black😭😭😭😭😭 just imagine
@@untitledtherapistin fact I have read a fantastic fanfic, and in it Saera has a bastard (fathered by a Volantene) who claims The Cannibal during the seeding of the dragons.
Not true
@@Vizzy_TCan you explain who is Saera? You mean one of great bastard daughters of Aegon IV. The Unworthy?
@@mateomurn7505 Saera targaryen (ninth born child of Jaehaerys I)
Basically the aunt of Viserys and Daemon.
In the books cannibal didn't allow anyone to tame him. The only reason cannibal stayed in dragonstone is to feed on the dead dragons. He didn't allow anyone near. So without a rider we might not see him in the show as there is no plot around him
Well, the Director has already said that they made models for all three of the wild dragons including Cannibal. Considering the extreme amount of money it takes just to make one dragon, I doubt they did it for fun. Will cannibal be a part of the story, absolutely not. Will we see him on screen, in mention, flying by, or feeding on some corpse or something? Possibly and very likely. 😘❤️🔥
@@bebesofttSilver Denys was casted and his whole role is for him and his sons to be eating by the Cannibal, so I’m assuming we’re going to to him when the sowing happens.
I hope he never gets tamed by anyone and follows no one because which and all dragons actually did, they lost their lives for these pathetic humans' petty fights for throne. These majestic creatures deserve much better. They can live up to 100 years, can fly free, can burn anything if the will to, but still chose to give up their lives in such young age for these humans who even humiliates these dragons' dead body instead of giving a proper funeral. They don't deserve these majestic creatures tbh.
@@bebesofttprobably feeding on a dead dragon or attacking a smaller dragon who knows but I got them def showing him
@@raindrops2892you shouldn’t be watching adults show kid, go back to bed 😅😅😅
The Writer of the book has made it clear so many times Balerion was the biggest, The order was Balerion, Meraxes, Vhagar, they were the original three used in Aegon's Conquest then Vermithor, Meleys.
We just don't know the size of the cannibal. He could be bigger than balerion or not
@@Stoic_Persistence
We know it is smaller than vermithor, people theorize about it size because misunderstood
@@muriloferraz3802 we don't know that he is smaller than vermithor
@@Stoic_PersistenceVermithor is said to be the biggest dragon after Vhagar and Balerion, taking that to account I think it’s safe to assume that Vermithor is probably bigger than him.
That was in the conquest. Vhagar is now number two to Balerion. You also have to remember this show while based on the books does not fully follow the canon of the book so if they want the Cannibal to be bigger than Balerion to get more views they will do so.
Even for just a second if they tried to tame Cannibal for war, it would leave charred skeletons, if they did that in HOTD that would be stupid but cool, we would get to see how big Cannibal actually is.
it wasn't that big! and it stayed clear of other large dragons, it only ate dragons smaller than it and didn't have much interest in humans. Vermithor was the Dragon that people feared... of course Targaryens worried that the Cannibal would eat their smaller dragons so it was still a problem to Targaryens! But that's it!
@@Dracorientalisyeah logically, if the cannibal was bigger than vhagar or even just as big as vermithor, they’d mention him all the time. He’d be worth thousands of dragon seeds to claim
@@pain002 no. he's not an unclaimed dragon. he's a wild dragon. They tried claiming him 20+ times and they all ended up as smoking corpses. And the bigger a dragon is the harder it is to get them to bond.
All of these facts are fire ngl appreciate these.
@@DracorientalisThey should had killed cannibal than
I swear I’m dying to see a Balerion flash black and the black flames, the ultimate alpha of a dragon
They don't give any of the Dragons their canon color flames sadly so that won't happen.
Crazy thing is balerion was a small dragon compared to the others in Valeria
@@seanflick3378 You have no proof of that at all. It's not once said in the books nor has Martin mentioned anything about it. It's only even theorized by fans that he wasn't the biggest ever as he was the only one born in Valeria while being bigger than any Dragon born outside of it.
@@Reina5342 If we theorize than yes valyrian dragons can be even bigger than westros dragons due to the climate and environment (also sorcery to some extent).
@@seanflick3378 Do u have a source is it in the big book?
The assumption that Cannibal is bigger than Balerion is incorrect for at least three reasons:
1. If it were bigger, it would be called "largest dragon" and not " largest WILD dragon".
2. Vhagar would not be called the biggest dragon that lived during the Dance.
3. Balerion would not be referred to as the largest and oldest dragon living in Westeros.
If Cannibal was number one, someone would call him that at least once.
Cannibal is not a public figure. He is called wild cause he lives on Dragonstone and has no rider. Though this dragon isn't well researched, there are hints in "Fire and Blood" that he is as big or bigger than Balerion.
I think sooner or later we will see him on the screen, maybe with some cool original lore from HOTD creators.
@@cegshortsDragon seeds had seen him, but still they ranked dragon size by this consequence Balerion > Vhagar > Vermithor. If he is really bigger than Vermithor or Vhagar there will be some claims about him, however there have none.
Dude be acting as if fictional characters that only exist when they are integrated in the story by the author would somehow have a life outside what was written😂😂😂💀😭
@@sussybeam55I don’t believe he is bigger than Balerion, however I think he might be on par with Vhagar, and bigger than Vermithor.
This is easily proven false by a singular fact. The Cannibal is not a Targaryen dragon, as such they have no records of it's age or size and neither is he safe to approach or measure him since, yk, he'd probably kill and/or eat you.
There's also the fact that Cannibal sightings have always been rare in the books so gauging his size accurately is nearly impossible. The fact that the Cannibal has been around the longest AND that he has not lived a day in captivity which hinders a dragon's growth as stated in the books is enough reason to consider him to be very easily bigger than Balerion.
I Believe what's said was "Cannibal is said to have been the eldest and largest of the wild dragons having taken part in the Sowing, being therefore even older than Sheepstealer. Some among the smallfolk of Dragonstone claimed that the Cannibal lived on the island even before the Targaryens arrived in 114 BC, a possibility that would make him, despite his size not being considered bigger than that of Vhagar and Vermithor, the oldest living dragon in Westeros at the time of the Dance of the Dragons, even older than Vhagar".
Balerion will always be the Boss heheh
It’s crazy to think a dragon like Toothless from how to train you’re dragons is stronger than Balerion😐
@@shaundolheguy2716the httyd species are very interesting but clearly not bound by any sort of realism. Gronkls should be unable to fly, yet they do.
But I agree. nightfurries would be damn right unbeatable and that’s not even up for debate. If a permanently injured toothless killed the red death, no dragon in hotd would stand a chance
@@pain002 well said.🤝
Dragons growing in wild grow to thier max size and they keep growing until death this is already confirmed in the books so its impossible that cannibal a wild dragon which eats other dragon is smaller than ballerion
Its also said sheep stealer was close to vermithors size and that may be true and cannibal is larger than sheep stealer so cannibal is larger than vermithor
They reason why viewers dont agree that cannibal is probably larger than balerion or of same size is because the writters didnt give anything more about him
But if u actually look at everything which has been told about dragons in genral than u can easily say cannibal isnt smaller than ballerion
And also when they address size of dragons they say “largest of targeryean dragon” or “largest seen dragon”
So it could be safe to say that cannibal probably hunted at night when its easier and less troublesome rather than at day when people and dragons are awake basically less resistance from the prey
Think about it T-Rex was one of the largest predators and yet it chose to scavange rather than hunt so same applies for cannibal too
Balerion is known to be the biggest dragon in the history of westeros, but for the cannibal he just has potential to become bigger than Balerion
Balerion is bigger than the cannibal.
they should show the cannibal in the movie show up mid battle and terrify both sides that theyll have to flee to fight another day and it just flies away
Can confirm Cannibal is not in S2
then there is Ancallagon....the father of all dragons...
It was never confirmed that cannibal was bigger than Balerion. Balerion is still very much considered the biggest.
Cannibal was rumored to be the biggest wild dragon not the biggest dragpn, right?
Correct
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
No way Cannibal can be bigger than Balerion. It was just said that ge was the biggest of the WILD dragons. If he was as big, or bigger than Vhagar, the characters would mention him a LOT more
How do you know he’s not, nobody really knows how big he really is
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
@@s.w.d4010 False
If you go according to books Balerion is the biggest dragon in history. But according to some readers cannibal lived more than balerion and is said to be alive after dance of dragon.So it makes sense they both are equal or canibal is more bigger.
so... (no hate, frfr) your EDITED comment has the phrase "MORE BIGGER" in it??
.....Kewl;)
@@Noir0rioNYou have ..... in your comment. It's only ever three... Glasses houses and whatnot.
No balerion was the biggest in the 7 kingdoms ,but far smaller than other dragons in Valeria
@@seanflick3378there is no proof of this just speculation. Stop with misinformation. Im talking about valyrian dragons being larger than balerion, while it’s possible it’s not known.
Biggest dragon in the history of westeros and the 7 kingdoms* Biggest dragon ever? Very very doubtful. Old valyrians were the masters of dragons, and they had magic; meaning their dragons could grow and grow for centuries, and they also had thousands of them. Everything was destroyed when doom happened so they dont know except rumours and whispers.
The theory that the cannibal is bigger than Belrion makes no sense. If the Cannibal was that dangerous then bigger dragons would have to worry about him but he only attacked baby dragons, or hatchlings which means he wouldn’t have possed a threat to larger dragons. Large dragons have lived on dragon stone for years before the dragon pit and no dragons larger then babies were hunted by the cannibal. He is likely stunted in growth because he wouldn’t have had that much access to food if eating dragons is his main source of food so his growth would be stunted as dragons need a large food source as well as open space
Pretty sure Cannibal is described as only eating smaller dragons simply because they're easy prey and have 0 chance of fighting back. Don't see why he wouldn't also be eating sheep etc like the others.
He's only not a threat to larger dragons because he doesn't prey on them. With a rider or motivation he absolutely could be a threat and imo this does not imply he's stunted in growth.
Animals always go path of least resistance. It's why you're supposed to get big and noisy. He never bonded w a rider, so I think he's just operating on base animal instincts.
@@woody00011 if he'd be bigger than Balerion then probably only Vermithor could pose any danger at all. Medium sized dragons should be no problem and yet he did not eat them.
... because he was not as big as you try to make him - as simple as that. Even GRRM explicitly stated that Vhagar and Vermithor were two biggest DRAGONS (not KNOWN dragons) during The Dance. Being of Silverwing size explains perfectly why he did prey only on small dragons - because he himself was not big enough.
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
Funny thing is, we don't even know what happened to him 😂 there are theorys his bones are found by Rhakaro but imagine he just shows up in winds at like 300yr old
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
@@s.w.d4010Bruh just stop
Nope Balerion is the biggest, the books and the series already verified it. I just wonder where does the Cannibal came from? And how old is he? 🤔
The books didn’t verify anything, they came from different sources, so no one really knows
@@user-ll5zq8jy8i The books did verify, read it again
Bigger or not, if someone had managed to tame him, he would have probably been the most dangerous rider during the dance
Absolutely. I imagine him looking like drogon but 100 years older. (Hopefully still with all his horns and not bald and wrinkly)
@@pain002he probably would be in pretty good condition since he mostly went after easy prey and avoided fights, really the only way a wild dragon could survive so long
i wanna see our crazy fella!!!!!!!!!
Vhagar got that dragon blood taste too
Nah Vhagar just kills them she doesn't eat them.
Anyone who saw Cannibal didn’t live to tell it, so no one knows how big & how old he really is
I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal he or she was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
@@s.w.d4010OK troll
people often forget that its stated that Vhagar was the largest living dragon during that time, followed by Vermithor
No we haven’t seen this wild dragon “Cannibal” in HOTD S2. So eagerly waiting to see “Cannibal” & “Balerion” in Flashbacks. But we’ve seen just one wild dragon “Sheepstealer”
I think Urrax has a change too
The books never say that Cannibal is bigger than Balerion. Balerion is bigger and stronger than Cannibal. Go read the books and don't give false information.
Cannibal isn't bigger than balerion or vhagar, but he's the most badass one after balerion, he's completely black and big, badass.
No one knows the cannibals true size because all those that have come close enough to see it none survived
Maybe drogon would be bigger after GOT.
Canibal is oldest dragon in westeros. But we don't know his size. He his Probably similar in size to Vhagar and Vermithor
He hates targaryen and chances are he was from the other rival house from valeria.. many tried to claim him and now turned into skeletons. I also feel he wont show up in HOTD.
Th yea really need to make a show about old Valeria I’m so curious especially since the targaryens didn’t run the show back then and weren’t the only ones with dragons
HE'S COMING NEXT EPISODE! YEAAAAAAH!
no that's vermithor , i have read the book we may get a glimpse of canibal maybe in the ending eps of s3 or s4
@@aryanshaw2462 vermithor is at dragon stone, it cant be him
@@miikeyrph8519 that shot is of Dragonstone (canibal was never at dragon stone during dod and it's too dangerous for rhanerya to stand in front of it)
And i can tell you one more point regarding it but it is a small spoiler
That was Vhagar
And they're gonna give that one chick that doesn't have a dragon Cannibal.
pretty sure she's getting sheepstealer (yes that's its name)
Cannibal is roughly the size of vermithor, if he was on dragonstone before the targaryens and to be of a size of note he would have to be over 340 years old, vhagar is 180 and wrll past her prime, bealerion was 208 when he died and just prior to his death was described as fat and slow, even if cannibal was kept active by being wild he would have to have outlived balerion by over 100 years. Considering vhagar is canonically the largest dragon at the time of HOTD hes probably around 110 to 130 years old
If it’s such a huge dragon and feeds on other dragons it must be hungry because the aren’t that many dragon
Aftersome time they defeat Godzila in size
Cannibal is the biggest of 3 wild dragons and rumoured to be smaller than vermithor the 3rd largest dragon, so not really bigger than Balerion or Vhagar.
Still big and the black could use him for spoilers
O look, another version of Galakrond
I was raised by dragons and direwolves.
Sheapstealer is said to be as large as Vermither and the cannibal is larger then sheapstealer. So he is atleast Vagars size or bigger
most Ice & Fire nerds think its cannibal, but always forget about the ice dragon in the north sea of essos, still waayy bigger than cannibal
I guess Cannibal doesnt get to eat often
Where do these wild dragons on dragon stone live? I assume they have to be somewhere. There’s people all over that castle, if he was bigger than Vahgar, someone would have said something. I assume the dragons on the Black side are as big as him or else they would mention how he could help them in the war.
Dragonstone is an island and if you look at the maps you'll see that it's pretty big. It's is actually big enough to even hide a dragon and it will be depicted in the future seasons of HOTD. I do not wish to spoil anything so far🤞
@@cegshorts I think that the Cannibal is just a small folk tale. The Cannibal was literally named by the small folk. No Dragon rider has seen or even came across the Cannibal. Do you really believe that Rhaenyra, who spent years on Dragon Stone and housed many dragons there never came across the Cannibal??? Why didn’t the Cannibal attack ANY of the dragons on Dragon Stone? He/She could’ve easily ate Moondancer, Syrax, Caraxes, Vermax, and Silverwing. The only dragons on Dragon Stone that could stand a stance against this unstoppable dragon is Meleys and Vermithor. This is another example of taking stories at face value. The Cannibal is just folklore. Also the only dragon mentioned to be killed by the Cannibal is Grey Ghost…however Grey Ghost wasn’t killed by the Cannibal it was killed by Sunfyre. The Cannibal is literally the Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster of this series. But that’s just my opinion.
@@s.w.d4010bruh no one cares about your dumb opinion.
He is just a baby eater and nothing else 😂
I want to see the Cannibal
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Is there any chance to see canibal in HOD S3?
what if cannibal is the one beneath winterfell?
Where are you getting this from. The cannibal is never described as being very large. 😠
It is true Balerion is and the largest dragon to ever live in Westeros. The Cannibal wasn't a small dragon but it wasn't that big either and only ate dragons smaller than it, it stay clear of the dragons larger that it, Caraxes, Meleys, Vermithor, Silverwing these Dragons are all of the same size or larger than the Cannibal. I have NO idea were this idea of the Cannibal being massive came from?!!
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That's not true. Cannibal is almost Vhagar 's size. Caraxes, Meleys, Syrax not even close.
It came from Fire and Blood...
@@mikemiken1963 Well thats not what this video is claiming and again, it stays away from the larger Dragons. Meleys and Caraxes are also "almost Vhagars size"
Bro tbh who cares if it’s lore accurate. It’s all fiction at the end of the day. If they can portray cannibal as big or bigger than balerion it would be cool to see.
@@IgetStarr Is this a actually serious comment?...
We in fact did not see him in season 2. 😒
Hopefully next season
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What about Ma Boy VERMITHOR
Cannibal only ate baby dragons and dragon eggs. He did attack full-grown dragons
Who was was the dragon ol boy tamed at the very end? After stepping in the eggs ? That was one meannnn mf!!!
Silver wing
You won't see cannibal.. and it's a good thing because the basic writers of the show will make it so the war against the families stop so they can kill cannibal... Kinda like king Kong Vs Godzilla was meant to be just that but instead they teamed up to fight the other monster instead 🙄
Why not have him eat all the dead dragons and people after the dance and flee somewhere
No way HBO is gonna spendtheir CGI budget on Cannibal
None of this is true - stop taking things too seriously
stop click baiting us. even george r martin said balerion was the biggest. end of discussion.
I thought we would of seen him already but maybe later in the season
Balerion was the biggest Dragon.
I wanna see a dragon seed attempting to bond with a mid size dragon. Them out of nowhere cannibal swoops down and snatches the dragon in its massive jaws. That would be sick
Cannibal was the largest WILD dragon, not the largest dragon on the Dance
WtF when was that mentioned in the MOvies😢
Season 2 is end bro
Oldest and largest of wild dragons not all Dragons he is rumored to be older than all Dragons in westeros though
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Not in season 2
All these AI voices.
Cannibal is not the biggest dragon he is only “the biggest wild dragon”. Martin has flat out said Balerion is the biggest of all time. Cannibal is smaller than Ragar and Verm. Reddit has this debate and drawing from the books it is pretty straightforward he is not the biggest all time.
He's got to be bigger then silver wing
Only one can tame him jon snow
He's not even bigger than Vermithor let alone Vhagar.😂😂
Waiting..
Team black will lose because in GOT Targaryen logo is green. You’re welcome
By the books it was implied that he ate dead dragons, young ones or eggs i think
Is it true that he's alive during GoT?
This sounds very intriguing but the are no hints in the books, so i guess it's probably not true, but still is a topic for speculation
He disappeared after HOTD probably due to his food source being dragons being mostly killed of due to the war. This means it’s possible it fled elsewhere away from Westeros in search for more food meaning it could still be alive in GOT
@@Ingen-MRUI doubt it, that’ll ruin the whole point of the magic returning to the world with the birth of Danys dragons.
@@Ingen-MRUsomeone would of seen him all those years n nobody seen him n a wild dragon that big someone would of seen him n nobody has seen dragons
The cannibal is not bigger than balerion that’s only a rumor
Belerion was the biggest.
cannibal hunts small dragon so it wont be bigger thna balerion
Larger than Vhaegar?
Drogo is big
The cannibal isn’t bigger than vhagar
Nowhere in the books it is claimed that the cannibal is bigger than even Vermithor. Clickbait
Season 2 finale was such a disappointment for me
Please don't do this videos without official information
Cannibal being larger than Balerion or even Vhagar is bs. Never stated or alluded to in the books. Dislike.
Cannibal is not even larger than Vhagar lets be real
I don’t think cannibal was balerion size
I would love to see how big the cannibal is
Completely false. Cannibal was even inferior in size to vermithor, so with certainty we can assume that this dragon was smaller than Balerion and Vhaegar too or even meraxes
Vhagar*
And There is no evidence of Cannibal hunting and eating adult Dragons. It was just baby dragons and eggs.
But even so this dragon was a mysterious one
I wanan see
No , Balerion is bigger
The cannibal isn't real
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Balerion was the biggest dragon ever. Not Cannibal.
Cannibal was nowhere near Vaghars size or that of even vermithor, had it been near that big, it would pose serious threat to all the smaller dragons and beasts such as seasmoke and others would also happen to fall in that category, save Vermithor and Vaghar as Cannibal was known to go for smaller creatures….so that would make Cannibal’s very existence a threat and a serious concern for the rulers, because they rule with the power provided by dragons they had, and Cannibal would be a concern so big that he’d probably be a significant part of story…which he is not, and though its true cannibal is old that doesn’t mean he’d be as big, growing is different for all dragons….dragon that big is no joke to find sparse mentions
Cannibal wasn’t bigger than Balerion
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I doubt he will be shown in the show. Serves no real purpose. Will be cool to see though