Bought and returned Impact. Kept OG Drumbrute. Why? First off, Kick 2 on the DB is just like the kick on Impact. Just like it. If there's a difference, it's so minute it doesn't warrant discussion. Second, I'll take a synth filter any day over distortion. Distortion pedals are cheap and plentiful, but good external filters are expensive. I agree that the DB filter isn't that powerful--but when I double it up with a great distortion/fuzz pedal...well... Third, having the additional voices and individual outs means everything in the studio. Getting diverse sounds and being able to manipulate the individual tracks in the DAW is a necessity. To me the original is the way to go. That said, the Impact is a nice compact drum buddy for jamming, writing beats, etc.
I really love the sound of the impact, I'm surprised that it sounds so much better than the original honestly! I was scared because I bought the impact before I really looked at the differences... but dang. I'm so glad I got the newer one, plus I like that it's smaller footprint so it doesn't take up so much space to do the same job!
The old one wins for me as well. Sounds more dynamic. It is bigger as well, which means more spacing, which then again means you can play it live, more easily.
Awesome comparison! I think it boils down to what drum machine fits better in the style of music you produce, not which is better compared to the other. It's like being in the early 80's and having to choose between a TR 808 and a Linndrum. Both are quite capable machines and sound great, but each will alter the overall tone and feeling of a song. Imagine if Billy Idol used an 808 on "Eyes without a face" instead of the Linndrum, or Marvin Gaye said "Na, I think I'll go for the DMX instead of the 808" on "Sexual Healing". Apple's and oranges I say :)
Exactly and what a lot of people don’t know is a lot of artists used two drum machines together on some tracks. Totally comes down to the style and the mood you want to create.
I had the DBI for a few months. I bought it for $140 and sold it for $220. The $80 chump change I made wasn't worth getting rid of it as I regret it after having the Volca Beats and the Behringer TD-3. It's heads and shoulders above these other two. It's a total quality device and a keeper, just like the Korg Monologue. Just keep them as they're both timeless.
Drumbrute seems warmer (so I bought one), the Impact seems to have a harder edge to it, but both sound good, so I think which is best very much depends on the music you make. For me it was the warmth that won the debate as it suits my music more.
Great video Bo, although I think you didn't do justice with the original. Mainly the kicks, which aren't that different if you use kick 2 but to my taste the og is much more versitile soundwise with congas for african grooves, clicks and rims and more sound sculpting options (although the fm drum is pretty cool as well). The ability to have two different high hats which doesn't necesserly choke one another is veryy handy. And the most important thing people forget is that these two like any analog synth are just crying for fx. Put the og Drumbrute with a beatcrusher and tell me you don't like the sound. Totally different beast! Sounds great though, would considered buying if I had'nt own the original
@@saam6768 The early originals had an issue with the noise generator that they'll fix that may have been badly impacting/coloring our experiences. For those that may be affected, check the site about an extended warranty repair.
Yesterday I bought the Drumbrute on marketplace. Both machines are good offcourse, but impact is clearer on the bass. I think for a midi setup like, with a keyboard or synth the Drumbrute is better for combining other drums with your keyboard or synth. The impact I think is more standalone with only an analoge synthesizer. But both is a matter of taste and the things you gonna do with it or create with it. But to have fun with it is the most important. I use the Drumbrute in combination with an E-80, SE-02 and MX-1 so Roland gear. The E-80 for the sound and background drums, SE-02 for the bass, MX-1 for the efx, drumbrute for variation of drums. I am a music hobbyist and thnx for the video.
I ve just bought the impact after having re-sold my Roland TR8.I consider having done a very good operation,for a analog drum machine. I am surprised by the strong to enormous attack,particully whith the drumbass that really sounds enormous. I also saw that some persons dislike the fact that there are only 4 outputs , but after having had one whith only a left and a right output , for me it is heaven to have 4 outputs , that are finelly 5 , if you include the main output.If you use one for the kick,one for the snaes,one for the hhats , there are still 2 ones for the others instruments,that is not so bad,and enough. Imagine that Roland actually proposes only 2 outputs,right and left for its digital toys. I also have the rd8 from Behringer ,and the association of these 2 brummachines gives something really cool. The drumbrute impact is very precise , and not difficult to use , and sincerely , for near 300€ , it is a gift that I couldn't miss. No regret at all.
I had the DB and the DBI. My personal experience was that the DB was limp and had zero oomf to it. The DBI was everything that the DB should have been. I kinda wish Arturia would take the power of the DBI and put it into the DB and make it actually Brutish.
Last week I purchased a Drumbrute Impact and fell in love with it. Today I ordered an OG Drumbrute and can’t wait for it arrive so I can use them both with my Behringer RD-8 and RD-9!
I own the OG and I would not swap it, I like the output much better and I can send all my instruments to different effects or to different channels on a mixer to record and edit the sequences as best as possible, that makes it perfect for recording.
Matt Greer Music Yeah I was interested in the OG Drumbrute because it’s so so fun to play. The performance controls are really cool. I could just never quite gel with the sound. I think it sounds fine but that it. It’s just fine. The impact on the other hand sounds much better, maintains the performance controls and adds distortion and an FM drum. For the $299 price tag, I may end up getting it.
@@HotStrange TBH if you aren't using the individual outs on the OG then the basic sound is very hard to get with. You definitely need to use the outs and then process each sound individually. When you do that the OG stomps on the Impact big time if you know what you are doing. That said if you are short of studio space and mixer channels the Impact is an excellent drum machine with it's own character.
Thanks for this! Great to have a side-by-side comparison. On the basis of this video I've decided the original Drumbrute is likely to be the right sound for the techno I'm into - solid, punchy, and clean sound coming through here (with the exception of that grainy open hat, maybe!) Love the sound of that filter - very smooth, and perfect for a drop. I would say the Impact really is not to my taste at all, although I can see how it might be preferable for some genres - bit more a synthetic feel? Very different instruments, likely intended for quite different styles of music.
Out of curiosity, why did you program the kick to be so different on the two? The OG Drum Brute can do a kick that is very much like the Impact. There are videos showing that. The OG drumbrute has two different kick drums. So many folks in the comments focused on the kick difference because they may not be familiar with the original's sound. It's important. I do like the distortion on the new unit, and there are other things to like about it for sure. Core sound just isn't as different as this video makes it sound. For reference for others, here's your video on the original, with a more traditional kick. ua-cam.com/video/MIixt1zChSo/v-deo.html
I think you are right here Pete. I am very new to doing side-by-sides and I think I could have done a better job on the kick. Thanks for bringing it up. Hopefully people still get a sense of the difference which I think is pretty evident. I did not use Kick 2 on the DB to fatten up the sound of the kick more because I stuck to the idea of just using the same sounds for both devices. For better or worse it was the approach I stuck to.
Pete Brown I’m not disagreeing with you, that was definitely a valid point, but I think for a lot of people, myself included, the size is a big factor as well. I have a small studio space do the Impact is perfect for me.
Oh sure. There are lots of things to like. The built-in distortion is one. Seems the accent/color is a bit more interesting, too. Just saw lots of folks in the comments making a decision based on the bass drum. The new bass does sound a bit different/better, but the gulf is *much* slimmer than the video might make you think. The hats are still terrible, though :)
Love the clap at 3:18 :). I love how small the Impact is...it fits great on my desk. It sucks that it only has 4 outputs, but I like to record each layer individually anyway or even just sample hits from it to put into a VST drum machine. It fits great into my workflow, and the sound is pretty unique.
Great video Bo! I just got the OG DrumBrute a week ago, I wish I waited a little longer until the Impact came out lol. I like both respectively in different ways but the Distortion sounds alot better than the Filter. Still I'm happy to have the OG DrumBrute!
I hate it when that happens. Don't right off the OG though imo it rewards spending time with it and Bo's earlier videos demonstrate it better than this comparison IMHO. I really value mine and appreciate the sound. Once I tamed the hats I was far happier with it.
Dennis Reinink thats cool! I'll have try that haha. And Hank Rank I understand, I'm not unhappy with my purchase lol I just wish I waited so I could've maybe compared both DrumBrutes review wise. Either way I love the OG DrumBrute. I prefer the amount of different instruments and the design overall. They both have different sounds and qualities (as the video showed), the DrumBrute impact is more aggressive and harsh. I would like to pick one up down the road, but for right now the OG is still pretty awesome! 👍
They both have their advantages but I am also on board with the OG. The performance features and additional drum sounds/controls defiantly do it for me.@@Musik_Arbeiter
OG! More instruments. More individual instrument outputs for more options when externally processing and mixing. More pads. Individually tunable toms. A drum machine with so many outputs doesn't need to sound perfect "straight out the box". The 808 was almost always compressed externally. The Vermona also has the ability to route individual instruments out for processing. That is the point where you start making your sound. With the Drumbrute OG, any instrument that you don't send out from the individual outputs will still run through the Drumbrute OG filter. That is when the filter makes much more sense than a distortion/compressor. Because the Main Out will send those filtered sounds to you mixer for more options. E.g. Compressor distortion.
I'm back to this vid now that I'm ready to buy one or the other. Not only did you not match the sounds as closely as possible, but you didn't program, the same, or a similar beat. On top of that the beats are at a totally different tempo. No, the date wasn't April 1st. You can't get *any* info about how the machines compare.
Great comparison Bo. I just pulled the pin on an Impact. Hopefully be here and making awesome beats with it early next week. Excitement overload. Cheers mate.
Everytime I randomly end up on a DB vs DBI video all I can do is hope Arturia will come back and make a DB2 and it will be easy, just give the DBI the extra sounds (preferably some sample channels that we can load), individual outs, etc, but otherwise keep the DBI sounds and other changes.
you can get that distortion also, when having an analog mixing desk, and overdrive the input gain a bit, so i personally don't see the added value of that distortion so much(unless per individual sound)...i remember that way back, the whole 'hardcore' kick drum sound, was made by overdrive the mixing console, on the kick drum, to get that typical sound, just as an example(not my kind of music)...but the fm drums are a nice touch though.
That comparison is not very fair. You made the bass drum of the original Drumbrute sound worse because you didn't turn the pitch down but the sweep up. Also, with the original Drumbrute you can layer Kick1 + Kick2 which can sound extremely fat when done right.
@@BoBeats Great idea for a video. OG vs Impact 6/7 months on!! Try having them play the same beats and use them both to their advantages. The OG has 12 outs so run the outputs through a board so you can enhance each sound either with a pedal or with a plugin plus you can layer the kicks, the snare/clap/rim. The Impact has 4 outs but it has better onboard processing. I would love to see you showcase these strengths in a head to head. Due to the creative sound shaping that can be done on the OG I never followed up any interest on the Impact as the only real advantage to me was it had a cowbell but even that can't be pitched unless I sample it so it lost it's appeal to me. If individual outs and sound design isn't your thing then for me the Impact rules the OG for sound straight out of the box and for size.
I bought drum brute a month ago. I usually send the most important sounds which I want to shape to different channels on my sound card and the results are amazing . Some sounds like the OH, when the level is maximum, they get cracky but thats normal because its analog. Personally, I never crank up the volume to its maximum which is common these days for most producers.
the filter on the drumbrute sounds good ONLY if you distort the signal afterwards. So it makes the drumbrute mouch less of a standalone drum machine, you always need something to process it with cause it's just so soft in general. though if I'm in my studio, I do prefer a clean sound source, so used in a production environment, it's awesome, live it would suck balls.
Thanks for the thorough comparison! I always wished the original had distortion and glad the Impact has it, plus it sounds tighter, which I like as well. I also really like the price point - could sell original and buy the impact for around the same price. Although my guess is the market may sound be flooded with original DrumBrutes with others thinking the same thing! :)
This is true. I went with the methodology of using one kick on each device. Might not have been the best and I have taken note of this. Thanks for the feedback.
I tested both in a shop, and the impact sounded better to my ears. More punch and more interesting sounds. But i did not fall in love with it. Nice, just that.
You get a little bit of compression with distortion and inversely with some compressors you get a wee bit of distortion - think early compressors like the 'Orange Squeezer' for guitar. If your pushing the upper limits of gain circuits it will tighten
Or you could filter the Impact through a Micro or Minibrute Steiner Parker filter I'm guessing that would work if you wanted a similar effect. Especially the FM drum Keep it in the family.
I think the impact was played louder, and sometimes that is perceived as sounding better. That being said, the stripped down nature of the impact appeals to me way more. And it sounds so much warmer and fatter with the distortion. The original sounds very thin and weak, besides I find the maracas and what not kind of unnecessary.
I prefer original for sound shaping potential. Impact is easier to sound good and samey but you might as well just get a tr8 if you want prepackaged sound.
It's a tough call. The Impact definitely sounds better but you can do so much more on the original. Ideally they would update the Drumbrute mk2 with the same sound and features of the Impact but still with the detailed soundshaping possibilities of the original. I wonder how similar the drumbrute sounds with a distortion like the impact.
if you have an analog mixing console, you can overdrive the input gain on it, you can 'dial-in' how much you want your sound affected, it can be done per individual output also, then you can choose what channel of the drumbrute you want to be affected, and what not, it can be done with both drum brutes, or any drum machine for that matter. but i'm not sure it would work well with a digital mixing console, as digital distortion sounds bad.
I didnt even know Arturia was releasing a smaller drum machine!!! Sooo awesomeee!!! 😁 ... and it actually sounds pretty great! I think I'm sold already! Lol Is the Impact similiar in size to the microbrute? Great video. 👍
This is totally a personal preference thing, but I really prefer the Impact's sounds. Reminds me more of an 808, nice mellow, bassy sounds. But, you know, if that's not you're thing, maybe get the original ;)
Look and footprint matter to me too, and the Impact wins on both counts. Ten sounds is probably enough, but it would be nice to have extras for little accents. The output thing is a big win for the original, but I think I would still choose the impact.
Hmnn... Impact sounded louder which the human ear favors. Maybe record on separate channels and match average RMS of the compared audio. Just a thought. Thanks for your opinion though.
Dude! Thank you for the awesome content! I watch a lot of your tests and comparisons. Like your criticism. Now I’m sure I don’t need either of those. Battery 4 with proper articulations and modulations for extra dynamics sounds better to me. Even though it’s a digital sampler I can pull much punchier groove out of it. I will continue my search, master 🙏🏻😃
From what I can see with the Drumbrute ORG and the IMP they can work well side by side if they are used with the ORG on individual outs and the IMP on channel 11 (I don't use zap on my channels). That way all the effects from the IMP can be utilized without having to use the limited individual outs that bypass the effects. On the ORG that's an advantage with the filter but a disadvantage with the step repeat function. I did say that I would wait for the Tanzbar2 and the 808 clone but the IMP would be useful for the new features alongside my ORG. I'll be getting one or the other with the 808 clone or the Tanzbar2 anyhow so if the IMP is cheap then it's a no brainer really. I will see when it comes out and how it goes when I try it at the shop
Luke Kage I’m gonna be getting the Impact. Not only does it sound better to my ears, but the size is a huge plus. My studio real estate is at a premium so the smaller Impact is perfect for me. And I’m loving that distortion and FM drum.
The additional parameters on the Original Drumbute don't change the sound dramatically making it less of a selling point. Also, has anyone had issues adding the original in a mix? It sounds very soft to me while getting clipping on the kick drums (I am no recording engineer).
Excellent detailed 1 to 1 comparison. Thanks for posting. Totally agree with your remark, the db impact sounds much fatter especially when using distortion.
Albeit it is a great comparison I still sit on the fence between these two because... it just struck me... I really don't know what I want. I don't do music but I enjoy playing around with synths. I recently got the Minibrute and love it. I think I might just choose the Impact in the end because it's more compact and as a beginner (is there a level lower than beginner? rookie? noob?) synthist I should just try it out and not overinvest.
Ive had the OG for a while and I really enjoy its overall classic drum machine sound, and instrument selection......that said I just ordered an Impact today.....so my answer to which one is; both!!
I just bought the od which arrives friday Later i will ad the alesis sr18 and a command mesh kit I also use my keyboards for drums The impact is cool but the og will work for me as some of those sounds remind me of my old simmons drum pads and my old boss dr110 To fun Great vid Bo
Sitting here, in the future (late ‘21), I’m really torn about these two instruments. The OG prices (even new) are coming down but I struggle to decide if I should get either one. I’m a drummer and historically, I haven’t been a fan of x0x drum sounds…but I suspect that they can become more musical with individual effects applied. The workflow looks superb, and is part of my obsession with these; I imagine I could get an interesting (and non-“cliche”) accompaniment going quickly. Or do I just get an MC-707 at 3 times the price and “X” times the capability?! Sigh……..,,
Since writing this four days ago, I came upon this playlist, which is quite simply the most sublime use of a drum machine I’ve ever heard. There is definitely a Drumbrute in my future! ua-cam.com/play/PLoqpJYmniKoqBPx0oVXqYYWdkEoXq3EoG.html
@@thesesmallboxes just got an og DB.. All I can say is don't underestimate the individual outs and the processing possibilities they give you. The sequencer rocks and the ease of programming and tweaking is just awesome.. the filter sounds great in hi pass mode too.. I'll check out that play list buddy Thanks for the heads up 🙏🌟🔥 Oh btw have you decided yet?
So what do you think about using both units together. Say if you like the kick and snare better on the impact but the toms better on the original? Do you think the sounds mesh together well?
i am always coming back to my volca beats and the sample from time to time. the beats for having one of the most beautiful kicks and the sample for beeing an excessive fun tool delivering a massive low-fi impact. love both.
same here. i had a go at a deeep grooving low-fi house session. i love its simplicity though beeing very effective. korg should make a volca xl hybrid drumcomputer with the impacts sequencer abilities.
Ave Mcree look into Zzounds, Sweetwater, and American Musical Supply. All 3 have payment plans (which are not credit cards) that divide them up into small monthly payments that might work for you. And since it’s not a credit card, there is no interest. I was in those shoes a few years ago but it gets better. Keep working and pushing and one day you’ll have whatever you desire :)
I dont necessarily think that one is better than the other. I think its more of a preference thing. the sounds on the impact are a little tighter but the OG has more options as far as performance value. The OG has more drum sounds and analog controls to work with, which is nice but the FM drum and color feature on the impact are pretty cool. It just depends which features cater more to your style.
I have the og db but find myself using a rhythm wolf as a master for the basic beat(good thump/smash/ting-ting)and the db as a slave for flowing accents and accompaniment. The impact seems to have a better snare sound with that overdrive. I’d like to hear the combo of impact as master with the og db as slave.
I am totally new to synths, keyboards, and all these other music gadgets. I thought I was starting to understand a bit of the lingo, but now I am confused again. The reason is: I thought these drum machines would come pre-loaded with a bunch of different "virtual" drum-kits. So if you would like to make a comparison, like this, you would start by loading the same (or very similar) drum-kit samples on both synths. This doesn't seem to be the case, as you are pointing out the difference in sound between them (and indeed I can hear they sound very different indeed). So are you just comparing the #1 preset sounds on both machines (the most "out of the box" of the sounds), or is it kind of problematic to load the same samples/drum-kit on both of them? (Sorry if this is a very stupid question, but one has to start somewhere..)
This is a analog drum machine. It only has ”one kit” which can be tweaked to sound differently. But unlike a sample based or digital drum machine it can’t really change its sound all that much.
Thank you for the reply. I guess analog is the keyword here. But in a world where everything is becoming "digitized", how come analog synths are the preferred alternative? (Wouldn't it be possible to make a digital synth that can do everything an analog one can, with or without the hardware nobs and buttons?)
Hallvard Paulsen Digital is emulation of analog. And sound difference is huge in my opinion. Try to compare for example original tr-909 and "new version" tr-09 or other roland digital clones of their classic analog brothers and you will get the piont :) also have in mind that if you try to compare it on cheap small spakers or headphones you won't probablly hear diffrence
The original still has more depth to my ear. I like the impact but you can hear that the original benefits from a greater depth of circuitry that a larger box offers. The impact sounds a bit more like the akai tomcat. There's a greater range of depth in a bigger box. The volca beats sounds more like a toy because you can only squeeze souch range into such a tiny box. Bigger is definitely better when it comes to analog drum machines.
@NoiseFeedMusic well with analog a bigger box allows you to have larger components which enable a wider range of values for the analog device, a larger capacitor would enable a larger range than a small capacitor.
It has pads and midi over usb. The behringer 808 will probably not have either. I’m tired of switches on drum machines. The other nice thing is you can turn off quantization.
It‘s so hard for me to decide for drums ... I want something that can sound brutal and sharp for some pop-industrial stuff ... so these are all out ... DFAM oder Digitakt maybe? Can‘t decide.
Al momento di scegliere ho preferito la Impact. I suoni sono più adatti al genere che faccio. C'è da dire che la DB originale ha più possibilità di personalizzare.
Bought and returned Impact. Kept OG Drumbrute. Why? First off, Kick 2 on the DB is just like the kick on Impact. Just like it. If there's a difference, it's so minute it doesn't warrant discussion. Second, I'll take a synth filter any day over distortion. Distortion pedals are cheap and plentiful, but good external filters are expensive. I agree that the DB filter isn't that powerful--but when I double it up with a great distortion/fuzz pedal...well... Third, having the additional voices and individual outs means everything in the studio. Getting diverse sounds and being able to manipulate the individual tracks in the DAW is a necessity. To me the original is the way to go. That said, the Impact is a nice compact drum buddy for jamming, writing beats, etc.
Filter < distortion all day, everyday.
the impact is amazing. i love mine and i don’t think i could live without that distortion circuit
I really love the sound of the impact, I'm surprised that it sounds so much better than the original honestly! I was scared because I bought the impact before I really looked at the differences... but dang. I'm so glad I got the newer one, plus I like that it's smaller footprint so it doesn't take up so much space to do the same job!
Are you still liking the Impact a year later?
The old one wins for me as well. Sounds more dynamic. It is bigger as well, which means more spacing, which then again means you can play it live, more easily.
2:30 when Bo says " The Filter really doesn't add that much " :D :D :D
Awesome comparison! I think it boils down to what drum machine fits better in the style of music you produce, not which is better compared to the other. It's like being in the early 80's and having to choose between a TR 808 and a Linndrum. Both are quite capable machines and sound great, but each will alter the overall tone and feeling of a song. Imagine if Billy Idol used an 808 on "Eyes without a face" instead of the Linndrum, or Marvin Gaye said "Na, I think I'll go for the DMX instead of the 808" on "Sexual Healing". Apple's and oranges I say :)
100% agree!
Brian Bargmeyer agreed. The Impact kind of reminds me of an 808 in steroids with more grit as a slightly harder hitting snare.
Exactly and what a lot of people don’t know is a lot of artists used two drum machines together on some tracks. Totally comes down to the style and the mood you want to create.
I had the DBI for a few months. I bought it for $140 and sold it for $220. The $80 chump change I made wasn't worth getting rid of it as I regret it after having the Volca Beats and the Behringer TD-3. It's heads and shoulders above these other two. It's a total quality device and a keeper, just like the Korg Monologue. Just keep them as they're both timeless.
Drumbrute seems warmer (so I bought one), the Impact seems to have a harder edge to it, but both sound good, so I think which is best very much depends on the music you make. For me it was the warmth that won the debate as it suits my music more.
Love that this came up right after the Impact intro video. This was the exact next question I had. Keep it up BoBeats! Thanks for making these videos.
Great video Bo, although I think you didn't do justice with the original.
Mainly the kicks, which aren't that different if you use kick 2 but to my taste the og is much more versitile soundwise with congas for african grooves, clicks and rims and more sound sculpting options (although the fm drum is pretty cool as well). The ability to have two different high hats which doesn't necesserly choke one another is veryy handy. And the most important thing people forget is that these two like any analog synth are just crying for fx. Put the og Drumbrute with a beatcrusher and tell me you don't like the sound. Totally different beast! Sounds great though, would considered buying if I had'nt own the original
I have both because I'm crazy, but yeah I never understood the hate towards the original. The original is a fantastic machine.
@@saam6768 The early originals had an issue with the noise generator that they'll fix that may have been badly impacting/coloring our experiences. For those that may be affected, check the site about an extended warranty repair.
@@rockstarjazzcat oh weird, i never heard about that. thanks for the PSA :)
Yesterday I bought the Drumbrute on marketplace. Both machines are good offcourse, but impact is clearer on the bass. I think for a midi setup like, with a keyboard or synth the Drumbrute is better for combining other drums with your keyboard or synth. The impact I think is more standalone with only an analoge synthesizer. But both is a matter of taste and the things you gonna do with it or create with it. But to have fun with it is the most important. I use the Drumbrute in combination with an E-80, SE-02 and MX-1 so Roland gear. The E-80 for the sound and background drums, SE-02 for the bass, MX-1 for the efx, drumbrute for variation of drums. I am a music hobbyist and thnx for the video.
i actually think the impact sounds better, but the trade offs seem pretty equal. Arturia did a really good job with this one
I ve just bought the impact after having re-sold my Roland TR8.I consider having done a very good operation,for a analog drum machine.
I am surprised by the strong to enormous attack,particully whith the drumbass that really sounds enormous.
I also saw that some persons dislike the fact that there are only 4 outputs , but after having had one whith only a left and a right output , for me it is heaven to have 4 outputs , that are finelly 5 , if you include the main output.If you use one for the kick,one for the snaes,one for the hhats , there are still 2 ones for the others instruments,that is not so bad,and enough.
Imagine that Roland actually proposes only 2 outputs,right and left for its digital toys.
I also have the rd8 from Behringer ,and the association of these 2 brummachines gives something really cool.
The drumbrute impact is very precise , and not difficult to use , and sincerely , for near 300€ , it is a gift that I couldn't miss.
No regret at all.
I had the DB and the DBI. My personal experience was that the DB was limp and had zero oomf to it. The DBI was everything that the DB should have been. I kinda wish Arturia would take the power of the DBI and put it into the DB and make it actually Brutish.
Last week I purchased a Drumbrute Impact and fell in love with it. Today I ordered an OG Drumbrute and can’t wait for it arrive so I can use them both with my Behringer RD-8 and RD-9!
I own the OG and I would not swap it, I like the output much better and I can send all my instruments to different effects or to different channels on a mixer to record and edit the sequences as best as possible, that makes it perfect for recording.
But the HH on DB😂
Thanks for the comparison. Definitely sounds better than the "OG" in my opinion. Still a polite pass from me but I think they're improving.
Matt Greer Music Yeah I was interested in the OG Drumbrute because it’s so so fun to play. The performance controls are really cool. I could just never quite gel with the sound. I think it sounds fine but that it. It’s just fine. The impact on the other hand sounds much better, maintains the performance controls and adds distortion and an FM drum. For the $299 price tag, I may end up getting it.
It's definitely a good value. If I were in the market for a budget friendly analog drum machine, I would most definitely consider this one.
@@HotStrange TBH if you aren't using the individual outs on the OG then the basic sound is very hard to get with. You definitely need to use the outs and then process each sound individually. When you do that the OG stomps on the Impact big time if you know what you are doing. That said if you are short of studio space and mixer channels the Impact is an excellent drum machine with it's own character.
Thanks for this! Great to have a side-by-side comparison. On the basis of this video I've decided the original Drumbrute is likely to be the right sound for the techno I'm into - solid, punchy, and clean sound coming through here (with the exception of that grainy open hat, maybe!) Love the sound of that filter - very smooth, and perfect for a drop. I would say the Impact really is not to my taste at all, although I can see how it might be preferable for some genres - bit more a synthetic feel? Very different instruments, likely intended for quite different styles of music.
Both work so good together
Thank You! Excellent review.
Out of curiosity, why did you program the kick to be so different on the two? The OG Drum Brute can do a kick that is very much like the Impact. There are videos showing that. The OG drumbrute has two different kick drums.
So many folks in the comments focused on the kick difference because they may not be familiar with the original's sound. It's important.
I do like the distortion on the new unit, and there are other things to like about it for sure. Core sound just isn't as different as this video makes it sound.
For reference for others, here's your video on the original, with a more traditional kick.
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I think you are right here Pete. I am very new to doing side-by-sides and I think I could have done a better job on the kick. Thanks for bringing it up. Hopefully people still get a sense of the difference which I think is pretty evident. I did not use Kick 2 on the DB to fatten up the sound of the kick more because I stuck to the idea of just using the same sounds for both devices. For better or worse it was the approach I stuck to.
Pete Brown I’m not disagreeing with you, that was definitely a valid point, but I think for a lot of people, myself included, the size is a big factor as well. I have a small studio space do the Impact is perfect for me.
Oh sure. There are lots of things to like. The built-in distortion is one. Seems the accent/color is a bit more interesting, too. Just saw lots of folks in the comments making a decision based on the bass drum. The new bass does sound a bit different/better, but the gulf is *much* slimmer than the video might make you think.
The hats are still terrible, though :)
Pete I am not sure I think its thaaat similar tho. At least to my ears its hard to get the og db close in terms of the kick.
I agree Bo, very different sounds between these two machines!
Love the clap at 3:18 :). I love how small the Impact is...it fits great on my desk. It sucks that it only has 4 outputs, but I like to record each layer individually anyway or even just sample hits from it to put into a VST drum machine. It fits great into my workflow, and the sound is pretty unique.
aHHHH A new Drumbrute!!
Great video Bo! I just got the OG DrumBrute a week ago, I wish I waited a little longer until the Impact came out lol. I like both respectively in different ways but the Distortion sounds alot better than the Filter. Still I'm happy to have the OG DrumBrute!
I use a bass fuzz pedal on my drumbrute. sounds awesome!
I hate it when that happens. Don't right off the OG though imo it rewards spending time with it and Bo's earlier videos demonstrate it better than this comparison IMHO. I really value mine and appreciate the sound. Once I tamed the hats I was far happier with it.
Dennis Reinink thats cool! I'll have try that haha. And Hank Rank I understand, I'm not unhappy with my purchase lol I just wish I waited so I could've maybe compared both DrumBrutes review wise. Either way I love the OG DrumBrute. I prefer the amount of different instruments and the design overall. They both have different sounds and qualities (as the video showed), the DrumBrute impact is more aggressive and harsh. I would like to pick one up down the road, but for right now the OG is still pretty awesome! 👍
They both have their advantages but I am also on board with the OG. The performance features and additional drum sounds/controls defiantly do it for me.@@Musik_Arbeiter
Nice review. I definitely prefer the sound of the Impact.
OG! More instruments. More individual instrument outputs for more options when externally processing and mixing. More pads. Individually tunable toms. A drum machine with so many outputs doesn't need to sound perfect "straight out the box". The 808 was almost always compressed externally. The Vermona also has the ability to route individual instruments out for processing.
That is the point where you start making your sound. With the Drumbrute OG, any instrument that you don't send out from the individual outputs will still run through the Drumbrute OG filter. That is when the filter makes much more sense than a distortion/compressor. Because the Main Out will send those filtered sounds to you mixer for more options. E.g. Compressor distortion.
I'm back to this vid now that I'm ready to buy one or the other. Not only did you not match the sounds as closely as possible, but you didn't program, the same, or a similar beat.
On top of that the beats are at a totally different tempo. No, the date wasn't April 1st. You can't get *any* info about how the machines compare.
did you even watch the video?
6:48
Great comparison Bo. I just pulled the pin on an Impact. Hopefully be here and making awesome beats with it early next week. Excitement overload. Cheers mate.
Everytime I randomly end up on a DB vs DBI video all I can do is hope Arturia will come back and make a DB2 and it will be easy, just give the DBI the extra sounds (preferably some sample channels that we can load), individual outs, etc, but otherwise keep the DBI sounds and other changes.
you can get that distortion also, when having an analog mixing desk, and overdrive the input gain a bit, so i personally don't see the added value of that distortion so much(unless per individual sound)...i remember that way back, the whole 'hardcore' kick drum sound, was made by overdrive the mixing console, on the kick drum, to get that typical sound, just as an example(not my kind of music)...but the fm drums are a nice touch though.
Is the Impact really that much meatier of a sound or is that the mix? If so I will be going for the Impact.
That comparison is not very fair. You made the bass drum of the original Drumbrute sound worse because you didn't turn the pitch down but the sweep up. Also, with the original Drumbrute you can layer Kick1 + Kick2 which can sound extremely fat when done right.
Yepp, I agree. I should do another one at some point
@@BoBeats Great idea for a video. OG vs Impact 6/7 months on!! Try having them play the same beats and use them both to their advantages. The OG has 12 outs so run the outputs through a board so you can enhance each sound either with a pedal or with a plugin plus you can layer the kicks, the snare/clap/rim. The Impact has 4 outs but it has better onboard processing. I would love to see you showcase these strengths in a head to head.
Due to the creative sound shaping that can be done on the OG I never followed up any interest on the Impact as the only real advantage to me was it had a cowbell but even that can't be pitched unless I sample it so it lost it's appeal to me. If individual outs and sound design isn't your thing then for me the Impact rules the OG for sound straight out of the box and for size.
I bought drum brute a month ago. I usually send the most important sounds which I want to shape to different channels on my sound card and the results are amazing . Some sounds like the OH, when the level is maximum, they get cracky but thats normal because its analog. Personally, I never crank up the volume to its maximum which is common these days for most producers.
Thank you. To play the same pattern helps... a lot
the filter on the drumbrute sounds good ONLY if you distort the signal afterwards. So it makes the drumbrute mouch less of a standalone drum machine, you always need something to process it with cause it's just so soft in general. though if I'm in my studio, I do prefer a clean sound source, so used in a production environment, it's awesome, live it would suck balls.
solid points there
A nice distortion pedal along side the drumbrute does wonders
Thanks for the thorough comparison! I always wished the original had distortion and glad the Impact has it, plus it sounds tighter, which I like as well. I also really like the price point - could sell original and buy the impact for around the same price. Although my guess is the market may sound be flooded with original DrumBrutes with others thinking the same thing! :)
Thank you for comparing!
The old one wins for me. More knobs, more sounds, two mode filter... and no sound potential wasted on the infernal cowbell.
The old one but with the kick from the impact and the zap replaced with the fm drum would be so cool imo
Why did you program the kick on on the original to sound as awful as possible? It has 2 different sounding great sounding kicks.
This is true. I went with the methodology of using one kick on each device. Might not have been the best and I have taken note of this. Thanks for the feedback.
@@BoBeats you got me to get my og drumbrute out & play it hooked up to my Grandmother last night. Thanks man.
@@validcore Your poor Nana! Is she OK? She makes the best lemon bars.
I tested both in a shop, and the impact sounded better to my ears. More punch and more interesting sounds. But i did not fall in love with it. Nice, just that.
At 6:40 Bo gives us a subtle sign to choose the impact😁
maybe I am a sucker for distortion, but the impact sounds snappier (transients really translate) and a bit “thicker” - IMPACT wins here.
You get a little bit of compression with distortion and inversely with some compressors you get a wee bit of distortion - think early compressors like the 'Orange Squeezer' for guitar. If your pushing the upper limits of gain circuits it will tighten
This is such a great video. So useful. Thank you
Or you could filter the Impact through a Micro or Minibrute Steiner Parker filter I'm guessing that would work if you wanted a similar effect. Especially the FM drum Keep it in the family.
The impact sounds like a teenage engineering tonic.
I think the impact was played louder, and sometimes that is perceived as sounding better. That being said, the stripped down nature of the impact appeals to me way more. And it sounds so much warmer and fatter with the distortion. The original sounds very thin and weak, besides I find the maracas and what not kind of unnecessary.
I prefer original for sound shaping potential. Impact is easier to sound good and samey but you might as well just get a tr8 if you want prepackaged sound.
A comparison video! Yes! Thank God...uhm...I mean....Thanks Bo.
For me the Original DrumBrute sounds better ;)
brooo get ur ears checked xD
It's a tough call. The Impact definitely sounds better but you can do so much more on the original. Ideally they would update the Drumbrute mk2 with the same sound and features of the Impact but still with the detailed soundshaping possibilities of the original. I wonder how similar the drumbrute sounds with a distortion like the impact.
if you have an analog mixing console, you can overdrive the input gain on it, you can 'dial-in' how much you want your sound affected, it can be done per individual output also, then you can choose what channel of the drumbrute you want to be affected, and what not, it can be done with both drum brutes, or any drum machine for that matter.
but i'm not sure it would work well with a digital mixing console, as digital distortion sounds bad.
Super helpful! I know know that i enjoy neither of them 😁 just going to use the Deluge to synthesise drum sounds
I didnt even know Arturia was releasing a smaller drum machine!!! Sooo awesomeee!!! 😁 ... and it actually sounds pretty great! I think I'm sold already! Lol Is the Impact similiar in size to the microbrute? Great video. 👍
Yes it is!
This is totally a personal preference thing, but I really prefer the Impact's sounds. Reminds me more of an 808, nice mellow, bassy sounds. But, you know, if that's not you're thing, maybe get the original ;)
Have tried them both and the Impact sounds better
In your guys opinions, which one has the more “realistic” drum & percussion sounds?
@@joethompson2910 OG of course !
Ah, dammit. Now I'm going to own both of them.
Craig_M Yep. And I just got the first one 4 months ago
Good comparison! Thanks! :)
Wish Impact had a filter session too!
Look and footprint matter to me too, and the Impact wins on both counts. Ten sounds is probably enough, but it would be nice to have extras for little accents. The output thing is a big win for the original, but I think I would still choose the impact.
Hmnn... Impact sounded louder which the human ear favors. Maybe record on separate channels and match average RMS of the compared audio. Just a thought. Thanks for your opinion though.
this is not a mastering channel. you can use the volume know on your end. They sound completely different so it still is a good video
Very enjoyable,thanks.
Dude! Thank you for the awesome content! I watch a lot of your tests and comparisons. Like your criticism. Now I’m sure I don’t need either of those. Battery 4 with proper articulations and modulations for extra dynamics sounds better to me. Even though it’s a digital sampler I can pull much punchier groove out of it. I will continue my search, master 🙏🏻😃
Nikolai Fialkowski you sound like shit with generic battery 🔋
Lisa Simp it's worse than that
From what I can see with the Drumbrute ORG and the IMP they can work well side by side if they are used with the ORG on individual outs and the IMP on channel 11 (I don't use zap on my channels). That way all the effects from the IMP can be utilized without having to use the limited individual outs that bypass the effects. On the ORG that's an advantage with the filter but a disadvantage with the step repeat function.
I did say that I would wait for the Tanzbar2 and the 808 clone but the IMP would be useful for the new features alongside my ORG. I'll be getting one or the other with the 808 clone or the Tanzbar2 anyhow so if the IMP is cheap then it's a no brainer really.
I will see when it comes out and how it goes when I try it at the shop
Luke Kage I’m gonna be getting the Impact. Not only does it sound better to my ears, but the size is a huge plus. My studio real estate is at a premium so the smaller Impact is perfect for me. And I’m loving that distortion and FM drum.
The additional parameters on the Original Drumbute don't change the sound dramatically making it less of a selling point. Also, has anyone had issues adding the original in a mix? It sounds very soft to me while getting clipping on the kick drums (I am no recording engineer).
ESPECTACULAR !!! COMPARITION
Thanks for another great video.
Excellent detailed 1 to 1 comparison. Thanks for posting. Totally agree with your remark, the db impact sounds much fatter especially when using distortion.
Albeit it is a great comparison I still sit on the fence between these two because... it just struck me... I really don't know what I want. I don't do music but I enjoy playing around with synths. I recently got the Minibrute and love it. I think I might just choose the Impact in the end because it's more compact and as a beginner (is there a level lower than beginner? rookie? noob?) synthist I should just try it out and not overinvest.
Ive had the OG for a while and I really enjoy its overall classic drum machine sound, and instrument selection......that said I just ordered an Impact today.....so my answer to which one is; both!!
How is the impact?
I just bought the od which arrives friday
Later i will ad the alesis sr18 and a command mesh kit
I also use my keyboards for drums
The impact is cool but the og will work for me as some of those sounds remind me of my old simmons drum pads and my old boss dr110
To fun
Great vid Bo
If you’re in the market for any of these, get the Impact. It sounds a lot better and feels a lot better too. If you can get the black one 😉
Sitting here, in the future (late ‘21), I’m really torn about these two instruments. The OG prices (even new) are coming down but I struggle to decide if I should get either one.
I’m a drummer and historically, I haven’t been a fan of x0x drum sounds…but I suspect that they can become more musical with individual effects applied.
The workflow looks superb, and is part of my obsession with these; I imagine I could get an interesting (and non-“cliche”) accompaniment going quickly.
Or do I just get an MC-707 at 3 times the price and “X” times the capability?!
Sigh……..,,
Since writing this four days ago, I came upon this playlist, which is quite simply the most sublime use of a drum machine I’ve ever heard. There is definitely a Drumbrute in my future!
ua-cam.com/play/PLoqpJYmniKoqBPx0oVXqYYWdkEoXq3EoG.html
@@thesesmallboxes just got an og DB..
All I can say is don't underestimate the individual outs and the processing possibilities they give you. The sequencer rocks and the ease of programming and tweaking is just awesome.. the filter sounds great in hi pass mode too..
I'll check out that play list buddy
Thanks for the heads up 🙏🌟🔥
Oh btw have you decided yet?
maracas and tamberine were the deciding factor for me lol. great comparison. what a struggle to decide!
So what do you think about using both units together. Say if you like the kick and snare better on the impact but the toms better on the original? Do you think the sounds mesh together well?
Nice, but am I still allowed to like my volca beats and sample?
James Stonehouse As long as you painted an orange stripe on the Volca Beats we will allow it.
i am always coming back to my volca beats and the sample from time to time. the beats for having one of the most beautiful kicks and the sample for beeing an excessive fun tool delivering a massive low-fi impact. love both.
@@herbertdruschke503 I thoroughly agree! I recently had a go at a low fi ambient jam with the sample.
same here. i had a go at a deeep grooving low-fi house session. i love its simplicity though beeing very effective. korg should make a volca xl hybrid drumcomputer with the impacts sequencer abilities.
Yesss! The Volcas RULE 💪
Less sure than I was but still gonna opt for the original
Great vid! I hate being a part of the broke gang :(
Ave Mcree there's always Zzounds my dude get you that payment plan
Ave Mcree look into Zzounds, Sweetwater, and American Musical Supply. All 3 have payment plans (which are not credit cards) that divide them up into small monthly payments that might work for you. And since it’s not a credit card, there is no interest. I was in those shoes a few years ago but it gets better. Keep working and pushing and one day you’ll have whatever you desire :)
Ave Mcree I feel you, I owe $3200 in fines but only have $300 in my bank account.
Hail Varg I ran from the cops.
Great video, thanks.
I dont necessarily think that one is better than the other. I think its more of a preference thing. the sounds on the impact are a little tighter but the OG has more options as far as performance value. The OG has more drum sounds and analog controls to work with, which is nice but the FM drum and color feature on the impact are pretty cool. It just depends which features cater more to your style.
If only we could get the DB Impact´s distortion replacing (or adding to) the filter of DB Original , that would be a complete machine to me. Grat vid!
Run it through a distortion pedal :-)
The original drum brute has 17 different drum sounds which is always best to go with the more sounds plus it's bigger!!
Why you gotta hate on the zap?
The zap is a nice effect every once and awhile but really becomes useful if you bring the pitch down to use as a third kick option.
Ok, the IMPACT sounds cool, even with Distortion, but the box with the orange lines looks ugly. Why no wooden panels, Arturia?
Cris Cosey meant to be more affordable. So they took away material and enhanced the internals. Even trade off depending on how you look at it.
I saw a review where the person said it had a "lambo" look to the side, and oddly enough it made me want it more 😂
I have the og db but find myself using a rhythm wolf as a master for the basic beat(good thump/smash/ting-ting)and the db as a slave for flowing accents and accompaniment. The impact seems to have a better snare sound with that overdrive. I’d like to hear the combo of impact as master with the og db as slave.
Now they are the same price?
thank you! very helpful~
I am totally new to synths, keyboards, and all these other music gadgets. I thought I was starting to understand a bit of the lingo, but now I am confused again. The reason is: I thought these drum machines would come pre-loaded with a bunch of different "virtual" drum-kits. So if you would like to make a comparison, like this, you would start by loading the same (or very similar) drum-kit samples on both synths. This doesn't seem to be the case, as you are pointing out the difference in sound between them (and indeed I can hear they sound very different indeed).
So are you just comparing the #1 preset sounds on both machines (the most "out of the box" of the sounds), or is it kind of problematic to load the same samples/drum-kit on both of them?
(Sorry if this is a very stupid question, but one has to start somewhere..)
This is a analog drum machine. It only has ”one kit” which can be tweaked to sound differently. But unlike a sample based or digital drum machine it can’t really change its sound all that much.
And it was not a stupid question. I understand that these things can be complicated.
Thank you for the reply. I guess analog is the keyword here. But in a world where everything is becoming "digitized", how come analog synths are the preferred alternative? (Wouldn't it be possible to make a digital synth that can do everything an analog one can, with or without the hardware nobs and buttons?)
Hallvard Paulsen Digital is emulation of analog. And sound difference is huge in my opinion. Try to compare for example original tr-909 and "new version" tr-09 or other roland digital clones of their classic analog brothers and you will get the piont :) also have in mind that if you try to compare it on cheap small spakers or headphones you won't probablly hear diffrence
Hallvard Paulsen if you want to be more confused just tyoe in search "modular synth" :P
impact sounds much better i kept that one, more knobs on the drumbrute but it wont make a real difference.
The original still has more depth to my ear. I like the impact but you can hear that the original benefits from a greater depth of circuitry that a larger box offers. The impact sounds a bit more like the akai tomcat. There's a greater range of depth in a bigger box. The volca beats sounds more like a toy because you can only squeeze souch range into such a tiny box. Bigger is definitely better when it comes to analog drum machines.
@NoiseFeedMusic well with analog a bigger box allows you to have larger components which enable a wider range of values for the analog device, a larger capacitor would enable a larger range than a small capacitor.
Good comparison 🔈
Bo! Im a big follower of your work keep it up.
I noticed in this video that everytime you talk a hiss (noise) comes up, its kind of unpleasant.
Thanks buddy! Been trying to improve my vocal audio a lot hopefully its better nowdays
that high hat comparison makes me sad....but I guess that's why my drum brute has been sitting under a pile of t-shirts for a year....
The Impact sounds better and more aggressive/industrial to my hears, but I guess it's a matter of musical taste.
The Impact does seem to have more of a classic analog drum machine sound. Looks like it will go head to head with the Behringer 808.
That’s why they are releasing it before the 808..
It has pads and midi over usb. The behringer 808 will probably not have either. I’m tired of switches on drum machines. The other nice thing is you can turn off quantization.
Behhringer are shite 😋 a mimic company with no originality, wonder which companies classic machine they will copy / ripoff next ???
It‘s so hard for me to decide for drums ... I want something that can sound brutal and sharp for some pop-industrial stuff ... so these are all out ... DFAM oder Digitakt maybe? Can‘t decide.
Can't go wrong with a Digitakt since its sample based. But the DFAM looks very cool as well. Wish I had one here to try it out!
I'm very happy with the Impact, but would even be happier if it would had cost 20€ more and had that filter from the original.
drumbrute impact snds better 4 me
What hits harder this or the tr8s or nah
Thank you m8
Al momento di scegliere ho preferito la Impact. I suoni sono più adatti al genere che faccio.
C'è da dire che la DB originale ha più possibilità di personalizzare.
I like the impact but I like the ascetic of the original more
The impact sounds similar to the Microtonic