Where has this channel been! Dude, just found you, your videos are getting recommended and your content is PRIMO. Don’t stop. You’re on your way 🙌🏾 subscribed
8:40 "I don't really pay attention to this..." As a graphic designer I'll say this: This is the worst thing someone like you can say in a color calibration tutorial... sRGB, NTSC, Adobe RGB and P3 are exactly the four item that are importantly involved in calibration.
right?! this is LITERALLY THE ONLY PART of the video I actually came to see, since my Spyder is only giving me 75% NTSC and AdobeRGB, yet 100% SRGB..... wow way to gloss over literally the most important part of the calibration results.
The uncalibrated monitor has only a bit of yellow tint, period. Infact the calbrated one has a bit colder colors. That's it. Is not a massive difference.
Seriously, this is the best channel I ever seeing about food photography. And of course: lighting. I´m watching all your videos and this is amazing. Such a inspiration and great quality. Thanks for that. Btw, witch microphone you use when the scene is just you explaining without computer?
I am a big living here in Canada, I learned many things from your channel .. your voice is amazing, melow... I hope you shout out my name on your next video....
So if camera/lens color calibration depends on ambient light, then this tool is completely useless when shooting outdoors in changing light conditions throughout the day. Or am I missing something?
I am so grateful for your tutorials. I have been searching for photography-related tutorials that actually show how to do something without being extremely cheesy and hard to listen to. Thank you!!!!!
hmm.. maybe I need to recalibrate my Monitor again.. because I couldn't see any difference between the two bowls of peaches at the beginning. They look almost identical
Just came across your channel and really like your videos - I'm just starting off with food photography and would love it if you could maybe make a video focusing on natural light/minimal use of equipment :)
Do you think it’s worth getting a calibrator knowing that most monitors/consumers aren’t calibrated? I know it makes sense to callabrate your monitor as the professional, but realistically as soon as you post or send off the photo it will look completely different on everyone else’s monitors.
Very good video, yet the workflow is way overcomplicated. I just shot an entire line up of wines from the Loire valley, and camera calibration with a color checker on a calibrated monitor is easy and efficient, unlike with DataColor.
Dude, great video, thank you. I have some doubts. I have colorchecker passport 2, can I use it the same way with spyderx correct? With Spyder X Elite I can calibrate up to how many monitors on different PCs? I have 5 screens. Is it possible to calibrate the 5 pcs? Thanks.
Not all of us are “for profit businesses” in the photography realm and, as such prefer to use programs like GIMP, Raw Therapee, Dark Table (Darktable does not recognize the Z6II so the “Darkroom” portion of that program will not function) and Nikon’s NX Studio to work with NEF Raw images, a side note GIMP actually reads TIFF files not RAW but still color management would be nice using my Spyder Checker 24 and Spyder Cube. The Color Checker 24 only offers 3 options for profiles for use in only paid options. I’m still reeling from the pain caused by my $1200 purchase of the Adobe Creative Suite (original) but, since I was laid off prior to a merger which essentially ended my science career, could no longer afford the upgrade. When I could afford to upgrade my version was no longer eligible. At that time I was still using 35mm film but eventually my product code was no longer supported so when I was forced to upgrade my computer I lost PhotoShop as well but found GIMP. I find the fees today for the cloud based Adobe products to be over priced and those software fees are charged to research operations doing Gell Electrophoresis (costs associated with downsizing decisions) using Photoshop as a densitometer (note that standardization across the entire industry has moved in that direction) I just want an accurate work flow instead of spending hours doing prints for myself or for online viewing by friends or even as gifts. So I seek those who use the alternatives rather than spend money for in depth tools I may never use like Adobe Premier or Parts of photoshop. Besides I have to convert from NEF to Adobe RAW to use them. Adobe controls an industry I just want accuracy and ease!
Nice video! My Canon R3's have little detail in the lower 3/4 tones consistently, no matter what light I'm shooting under.. Will Spyder camera calibration resolve this when editing in Lightroom Classic? Will I need to import the created ICC profile into the application support for Adobe LR.?
I notice he glossed over the comparison screen to sRGB / Adobe etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems the Spyder only calibrates to sRGB? If I want to calibrate to AdobeRGB, how would I go about it?
@figandlight Shouldn't we first measure our White point at 100cd brightness and not go with default 6500K recommended option? I am confused as my laptop led display measured whitepoint is 8600K at 100cd. If I keep 6500K recommended option the final profile is just warmer, more saturated and white is definitely more warm. So I think we should always go with measured white point or am I wrong???
Hi I love ur pic and video, and I'm learning very valuable information from your youtube chanal. I wanna know how get backdrop like a tile and wood table. let me know how did you get them please :-)
Hi there I'm looking for a lighting kit to start my business as food photographer what will you recommend me. I have watch couple of your videos and like them a lot! thanks you
What happens if you apply another preset after you apply this custom preset from spydercheckr? Does the second preset remove what you did with the custom preset from spydercheckr?
I also bought Color Checker and tried to use it. But got the same result - calibrated photos were too warm. My client said she didn.t like it and preferred uncalibrated with colder white balance.
I think there are something wrong with him. I found out he has no activities in instagram and twitter and his homepage for 4 months. Anybody who knows him? Is he alright?
Great video, but a have a question, would you need to use the color checker and create a new LR profile for every shoot? For example, if I do a shoot with just 1 speedlight and another using 3 or 4 but they're all the same brand and model and therefore (theoretically) produce the same type of light do I still need to make a new profile every time? I'm guessing since you had to adjust the white and black point that this need to be done on a per shoot basis but I just wanted to be sure
quick question, can it make a medium range monitor more acurate as well, or does it only make sense on high end monitors ? I have a medium range Dell and it constantely irretates me in colors :0)
I recently ran into some weird problems with the calibration from Spyder where it isn't consistently the same colour after calibration, but cannot find someone to help me with it. I basically have two profiles in Lightroom - Adobe Color and the camera internal profile "Camera Standard"- to choose from. I now exported the same image in both profiles and made a calibration with the Checkr for each which I then loaded up in LR. When you use the preset in LR it sets the profile automatically to "Adobe Standard", so I change them back to the profile I balanced them off. Now the profiles combined with the calibration should be accurate right? And technically they should also match each other because they are calibrated right? Well, they are not... And I don't quite get why. I also tried to put my exported photo in different colour spaces and formats (found .tiff with ProPhoto to be the best so far), but it didn't really fix the difference between the two calibrations.
I believe when you calibrate using the spyder it,you import it in light room and it will create its own user preset ,and if you choose that preset,from my understanding,it will change the base profile,thats why when you check the tones its adjusted and moved ,if you select the camera standard again from the profile ,it will not combine it but reapply it as base tones ,try to check the tones again,to see the difference ,thats from I undertstood watching this video
Data Color doesn't create a camera RAW profile, it only does some HSL tweaking. You're still using Adobe's interpretation of colors, you're just applying an HSL tweak on top of it. X-Rite does create custom camera profiles, which is certainly a better approach. I had Data Color products (for monitors and cameras) before and it was just a huge waste of my time, as I never managed to get acceptable results. Rented X-Rite products and got good results with the first try. Never looked back ever since. The time you spend trying to make Data Color products work is not worth the price difference. Rent X-Rite for a day and see it for yourself. I bought the whole lineup (monitor, camera, print calibration equipment). It just works.
@@almaza4331 thanks very interesting... I have already the datacolor spyder sensor for monitor. I would like to purchase a checker color and I was wondering if I will buy DATACOLOR or X-RITE brand ? If I choose X-RITE because it is better, maybe it is not compatible with the sensor DATACOLOR ? I have to buy another sensor X-RITE ? that's it ?
@@emelineboileau5702 I don't think there will be any compatibility issues because your DataColor Spyder calibrates your monitor, while ColorChecker is used to "calibrate" your camera sensor. However, if you want the best results, I'd suggest using X-Rite for both monitor and camera calibration just to be safe.
Hello, is it important to choose the same brand for the sensor and the checker ? I have already the datacolor spyder sensor and I want to purchase the checker color but I wondering DATACOLOR or X-RITE ? Thanks you
I have two monitors and am using the same spyder as you and both monitors look different after colour correction one looks more red and other looks more orange so how do you over come this. Both are aced monitors but different models . Is this expected as one is a gaming monitor and other is more of a photographic monitor
Great video! The camera calibration was interest. Haven't gone that far before. I know you are set in your ways per your culling video 😉 but for everyone else, remember to click on the padlock so you can free transform the crop boundaries and you can quickly fix perspective by using upright guides (shift+T) if you don't want to use sliders.
The 90% and 5% are specified by Datacolor in the manual-it serves to prevent the calibration from transforming the luminosity too much and gives the calibration software a good starting point so it can mainly correct hue and saturation. As for the white balance, Datacolor indicates that you should correct the white balance using the neutral targets and specifically recommends using the 2nd target (although any of them are basically fine); this is for the same reason; the point of the calibration is to correct the color cast of the lens and the innacuracy of the camera, not to affect the color temperature. When you apply the profile, you don't want it to change your exposure or color temp since those things are not the same from one shoot to the next. You only want it to correct the constants-your lens and camera's color casts.
I actually liked the photo that was uncalibrated. I thought the calibrated one had over-exposed areas and more contrasty. Uncalibrated seemed natural and more vivid.
Thank you! Initially I wasn't planning to, but I'm getting a lot of requests for one, so I'm considering it at this point. However, I can't say when exactly.
Isn’t it frustrating to get perfect color balance with your images when it is being viewed online. It’s better than nothing but ultimately it is being viewed on thousands of uncalibrated monitors.
Where has this channel been! Dude, just found you, your videos are getting recommended and your content is PRIMO. Don’t stop. You’re on your way 🙌🏾 subscribed
I miss his content, it helped me grow and improve my editing skills so much, hope he gets back to creating content soon
8:40 "I don't really pay attention to this..." As a graphic designer I'll say this: This is the worst thing someone like you can say in a color calibration tutorial... sRGB, NTSC, Adobe RGB and P3 are exactly the four item that are importantly involved in calibration.
right?! this is LITERALLY THE ONLY PART of the video I actually came to see, since my Spyder is only giving me 75% NTSC and AdobeRGB, yet 100% SRGB..... wow way to gloss over literally the most important part of the calibration results.
Hey man, hope you are okay! It’s been a while since ur last video
The uncalibrated monitor has only a bit of yellow tint, period. Infact the calbrated one has a bit colder colors. That's it. Is not a massive difference.
We need your videos, please come back my friend ❤️
Seriously, this is the best channel I ever seeing about food photography. And of course: lighting. I´m watching all your videos and this is amazing. Such a inspiration and great quality. Thanks for that. Btw, witch microphone you use when the scene is just you explaining without computer?
lol this feels like my friend who's obsessed with quality when most people don't even notice the difference.
miss your videos man
Very helpful information! I was recently thinking about the calibration and how to deal with it.. You made it clear now, thank you so much.
Awesome! I'm glad it helped! Thanks for watching
Please release more of that good ass content! Finally found someone who’s talking about what photography is really about. Light! Subscribed!!!
Hey. Will you be making videos again?
Thank you, sir! The quality of your content is amazing!
Hope you are still Alive!! Amazing Content!!!
Brendan, are you still alive dude? We miss you. Hope you are surviving this pandemic kak. Miss your videos.
I am a big living here in Canada, I learned many things from your channel .. your voice is amazing, melow... I hope you shout out my name on your next video....
Hope you're doing well! We're missing your videos! 🖖
Hi Brandon I'm from Brazil and I want to thank you for your lighting tips and I hope to be in your next Light and food phography class!!!!!
So if camera/lens color calibration depends on ambient light, then this tool is completely useless when shooting outdoors in changing light conditions throughout the day. Or am I missing something?
Happened to bump into one of your videos today.. and i just love your production quality and the way you explain things.. thank you :).
Can you calibrate a tv with this? I want to calibrate my LG CX OLED.
I am so grateful for your tutorials. I have been searching for photography-related tutorials that actually show how to do something without being extremely cheesy and hard to listen to. Thank you!!!!!
Whatever I try, my monitor looks too yellow. Simple b/w photos are yellow. Does somebody know whats the problem?
subscribing to your channel a while ago, learning so much and it's addictive! keep it up bro! i wish i could subscribe to your chan 10 thousand times!
Thanks for good content! That is really useful video! I have one question, which program are you use for control your camera on laptop?
i just found this channel and holy shit. it's freaking AMAZING. i dont think any resource has ever been as helpful as yours
hmm.. maybe I need to recalibrate my Monitor again.. because I couldn't see any difference between the two bowls of peaches at the beginning. They look almost identical
Can't fully appreciate this video because my monitor isn't color calibrated D:
Just came across your channel and really like your videos - I'm just starting off with food photography and would love it if you could maybe make a video focusing on natural light/minimal use of equipment :)
Do you think it’s worth getting a calibrator knowing that most monitors/consumers aren’t calibrated? I know it makes sense to callabrate your monitor as the professional, but realistically as soon as you post or send off the photo it will look completely different on everyone else’s monitors.
Have you done a calibration on the MacBook Pro M1 16 inch ? I used the spyder on a older MacBook but don’t know how to do with the new apple screens ?
Very helpful! Thank you so much for sharing.
Thank you for watching!
Love your videos! Maybe you could make a video about "How to charge for your work"
This was the best Video that spoke about the benefits of Calibration. THANK you so much.
After editing a photo on a calibrated monitor, can I see the same colors on any other uncalibrared monitor?
Who's watching this uncalibrated?
What if I don't want to calibrate my camera ? But, only the monitor ?
Very good video, yet the workflow is way overcomplicated. I just shot an entire line up of wines from the Loire valley, and camera calibration with a color checker on a calibrated monitor is easy and efficient, unlike with DataColor.
Dude, great video, thank you.
I have some doubts. I have colorchecker passport 2, can I use it the same way with spyderx correct?
With Spyder X Elite I can calibrate up to how many monitors on different PCs? I have 5 screens. Is it possible to calibrate the 5 pcs?
Thanks.
Not all of us are “for profit businesses” in the photography realm and, as such prefer to use programs like GIMP, Raw Therapee, Dark Table (Darktable does not recognize the Z6II so the “Darkroom” portion of that program will not function) and Nikon’s NX Studio to work with NEF Raw images, a side note GIMP actually reads TIFF files not RAW but still color management would be nice using my Spyder Checker 24 and Spyder Cube. The Color Checker 24 only offers 3 options for profiles for use in only paid options. I’m still reeling from the pain caused by my $1200 purchase of the Adobe Creative Suite (original) but, since I was laid off prior to a merger which essentially ended my science career, could no longer afford the upgrade. When I could afford to upgrade my version was no longer eligible. At that time I was still using 35mm film but eventually my product code was no longer supported so when I was forced to upgrade my computer I lost PhotoShop as well but found GIMP. I find the fees today for the cloud based Adobe products to be over priced and those software fees are charged to research operations doing Gell Electrophoresis (costs associated with downsizing decisions) using Photoshop as a densitometer (note that standardization across the entire industry has moved in that direction) I just want an accurate work flow instead of spending hours doing prints for myself or for online viewing by friends or even as gifts. So I seek those who use the alternatives rather than spend money for in depth tools I may never use like Adobe Premier or Parts of photoshop. Besides I have to convert from NEF to Adobe RAW to use them. Adobe controls an industry I just want accuracy and ease!
Nice video! My Canon R3's have little detail in the lower 3/4 tones consistently, no matter what light I'm shooting under.. Will Spyder camera calibration resolve this when editing in Lightroom Classic? Will I need to import the created ICC profile into the application support for Adobe LR.?
Can't tell the difference
I was concerned you were going to say the right one was calibrated at which point I would have just given up on life.
hahaha
Thank you, now I want one!
I notice he glossed over the comparison screen to sRGB / Adobe etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems the Spyder only calibrates to sRGB? If I want to calibrate to AdobeRGB, how would I go about it?
@figandlight Shouldn't we first measure our White point at 100cd brightness and not go with default 6500K recommended option? I am confused as my laptop led display measured whitepoint is 8600K at 100cd. If I keep 6500K recommended option the final profile is just warmer, more saturated and white is definitely more warm. So I think we should always go with measured white point or am I wrong???
Black is 5%? where it did come from?
Hi I love ur pic and video, and I'm learning very valuable information from your youtube chanal.
I wanna know how get backdrop like a tile and wood table.
let me know how did you get them please :-)
Great video! Hey man, which shotgun mic do you use?
How do you turn off a profile?
Hey genius, where are you?
How often do I need to calibrate screen?
Hi there I'm looking for a lighting kit to start my business as food photographer what will you recommend me. I have watch couple of your videos and like them a lot! thanks you
Comeback pls
What happens if you apply another preset after you apply this custom preset from spydercheckr? Does the second preset remove what you did with the custom preset from spydercheckr?
yo, you makin' more content??
I also bought Color Checker and tried to use it. But got the same result - calibrated photos were too warm.
My client said she didn.t like it and preferred uncalibrated with colder white balance.
I think there are something wrong with him. I found out he has no activities in instagram and twitter and his homepage for 4 months. Anybody who knows him? Is he alright?
Hello sir is godox sl60w is enough for food or product photography? Thank you so much
Great video! How about calibrating the printer? Do you have any videos on that subject? thanks
This will come in handy for tips for my channel thanks
Great video, but a have a question, would you need to use the color checker and create a new LR profile for every shoot?
For example, if I do a shoot with just 1 speedlight and another using 3 or 4 but they're all the same brand and model and therefore (theoretically) produce the same type of light do I still need to make a new profile every time? I'm guessing since you had to adjust the white and black point that this need to be done on a per shoot basis but I just wanted to be sure
Please post more videos, love your content.
Kindly do a video on focusing techniques for food videos.
where'd you gooooooooo
One question - How were yo using your color checker before the monitor calibration?
quick question, can it make a medium range monitor more acurate as well, or does it only make sense on high end monitors ? I have a medium range Dell and it constantely irretates me in colors :0)
Awesome!! Thanks for the information.
I recently ran into some weird problems with the calibration from Spyder where it isn't consistently the same colour after calibration, but cannot find someone to help me with it.
I basically have two profiles in Lightroom - Adobe Color and the camera internal profile "Camera Standard"- to choose from.
I now exported the same image in both profiles and made a calibration with the Checkr for each which I then loaded up in LR.
When you use the preset in LR it sets the profile automatically to "Adobe Standard", so I change them back to the profile I balanced them off. Now the profiles combined with the calibration should be accurate right? And technically they should also match each other because they are calibrated right?
Well, they are not... And I don't quite get why.
I also tried to put my exported photo in different colour spaces and formats (found .tiff with ProPhoto to be the best so far), but it didn't really fix the difference between the two calibrations.
I believe when you calibrate using the spyder it,you import it in light room and it will create its own user preset ,and if you choose that preset,from my understanding,it will change the base profile,thats why when you check the tones its adjusted and moved ,if you select the camera standard again from the profile ,it will not combine it but reapply it as base tones ,try to check the tones again,to see the difference ,thats from I undertstood watching this video
Data Color doesn't create a camera RAW profile, it only does some HSL tweaking. You're still using Adobe's interpretation of colors, you're just applying an HSL tweak on top of it. X-Rite does create custom camera profiles, which is certainly a better approach. I had Data Color products (for monitors and cameras) before and it was just a huge waste of my time, as I never managed to get acceptable results. Rented X-Rite products and got good results with the first try. Never looked back ever since. The time you spend trying to make Data Color products work is not worth the price difference. Rent X-Rite for a day and see it for yourself. I bought the whole lineup (monitor, camera, print calibration equipment). It just works.
@@almaza4331 ooo thanks for this info! will be looking into x-rite soon 🙏🏼
@@almaza4331 thanks very interesting... I have already the datacolor spyder sensor for monitor. I would like to purchase a checker color and I was wondering if I will buy DATACOLOR or X-RITE brand ? If I choose X-RITE because it is better, maybe it is not compatible with the sensor DATACOLOR ? I have to buy another sensor X-RITE ? that's it ?
@@emelineboileau5702 I don't think there will be any compatibility issues because your DataColor Spyder calibrates your monitor, while ColorChecker is used to "calibrate" your camera sensor. However, if you want the best results, I'd suggest using X-Rite for both monitor and camera calibration just to be safe.
What mic did you use? Pls include the link pls
Where are you :(
I am from Argentina and I am a beginner in food photography. Your videos help me a lot. You're great!
Hey man, are u ok?
Hey bro, we miss you a lot, where did you go?
dude :(
Hello, is it important to choose the same brand for the sensor and the checker ? I have already the datacolor spyder sensor and I want to purchase the checker color but I wondering DATACOLOR or X-RITE ? Thanks you
and very helpful your video, it was exactly what I was searching
Hi Brandon, the links in the description don't work
Plz share your knowledge.
☹️
Very good explanation, thanks!!!
I have two monitors and am using the same spyder as you and both monitors look different after colour correction one looks more red and other looks more orange so how do you over come this. Both are aced monitors but different models . Is this expected as one is a gaming monitor and other is more of a photographic monitor
Data Color is not good enough for professional use. X-Rite is the industry standard for both monitor and camera calibration.
Great video! The camera calibration was interest. Haven't gone that far before. I know you are set in your ways per your culling video 😉 but for everyone else, remember to click on the padlock so you can free transform the crop boundaries and you can quickly fix perspective by using upright guides (shift+T) if you don't want to use sliders.
That was an excellent video and presentation. Well done
Hi can u please share your monitor model
Would have love to see the correct calibration without the blasting lights
Great Video
I agree 🤔
Very helpful! Thank you!
Please keep on posting and educating✨
Excellent ! Thanks ! :)
This is really very helpful & the entire process described by you was so much simple .
Anybody who saw him in these days?
What monitor are you using?
thanks for this video
Hope your good and fine.
thanks my friend
Hi! Just wondering what's the reason behind selecting the 3rd gray color for the white balance and why should the whites ba at 90%? Thanks!
The 90% and 5% are specified by Datacolor in the manual-it serves to prevent the calibration from transforming the luminosity too much and gives the calibration software a good starting point so it can mainly correct hue and saturation. As for the white balance, Datacolor indicates that you should correct the white balance using the neutral targets and specifically recommends using the 2nd target (although any of them are basically fine); this is for the same reason; the point of the calibration is to correct the color cast of the lens and the innacuracy of the camera, not to affect the color temperature. When you apply the profile, you don't want it to change your exposure or color temp since those things are not the same from one shoot to the next. You only want it to correct the constants-your lens and camera's color casts.
@@EduardoVelezIII thanks for the info!!
I actually liked the photo that was uncalibrated. I thought the calibrated one had over-exposed areas and more contrasty. Uncalibrated seemed natural and more vivid.
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can you do one using Capture One?
Capture One does not support Data Color, it supports X-Rite however (as it is the industry standard).
thank you for your hard work !
I wonder if you will make a video about backdrops ?
Thank you! Initially I wasn't planning to, but I'm getting a lot of requests for one, so I'm considering it at this point. However, I can't say when exactly.
+1
Nice ++++++++++++
Thanks
Thanks for watching Rodion!
Isn’t it frustrating to get perfect color balance with your images when it is being viewed online. It’s better than nothing but ultimately it is being viewed on thousands of uncalibrated monitors.
This is only useful if you are making prints. Nothing else.
Thank you for your effort as always...
Thanks for sticking around and watching!
@@figandlight your work always make us to stick around...