With jt and marner off the books we can really build a team that can win the cup no more bad contracts can’t win with 4 players making almost 60 percent of the cap it’s nuts!
I'm a Mitch Marner fan but he definitely has criticism. If Marner excels under Berube and leads the team to playoff success, I'm open to matching Nylander's contract with a no-trade clause for 10 or 15 teams. Otherwise, I'd prioritize using that money to invest in future centers.
How can you give him Leon Drai (oilers)i Money, and Domi @ 3.75 Mil is a better linemate for #34. Cannot believe he wants 10 Mil more then Domi and Domi is better in the playoffs.
To stay sane remember everything we hear through the media is from the Marner camp. Personally it’s the same contract as Willy or goodbye. In reality I expect a 6 year deal at 12.25. Which is absurd I know. Imo he’s never been worth more than Willy and the playoffs have proved it.
Absolutely not , Leon is top 3 current NHL players period. Marner is top 25 at best, he should never command the same value just based on that alone never mind Leon is a proven play-off performer Marner should be getting 9 with incentives based on performances for huge bonuses that Toronto can afford to pay should he show up when it counts
@@WillPe8 Marner should have signed his his contract same as willy at 6.9 Million not 11 Million, Dubas screwed the leafs and he wants Mathews money in the 13 range. Marner needs Mathews more then Mathews needs Marner. Dubas gave him everything 11 Mill and No trade, where was the negocation? Cannot believe both make more then Pasta and he is the best blayer in Boston.
@@geedubb-q1ulol - might want to fact check that…Marner didn’t even play with Matthews for his first 3 years and arguably he was at his best with Bertuzzi and Domi last year
Here’s my bone to pick with the leafs organization and fans… they say Marner is soft. But then they sign Nylander to 11.5X8. They say Marner isn’t a playoff performer. But he has most PPG out of our core In the playoffs. They say Marner isn’t worth more money. But they give Willy a 5 mill a year increase when he’s only had one really good season. The fact of the matter is that Marner makes the players around him better. Point blank. Period. That’s what superstars do. Without Marner Tavares don’t get 47 goals hud first year as a leaf. Without Marner, Matthew doesn’t get 69 goals last season. And to be honest without Marner, the leafs probably don’t make the playoffs in our division. So getting rid of Marner would be the biggest mistake this organization has ever made. The problem was giving Tavares as much as they did for as long as they did. And also, giving Willie as much as they did.
@shanebrohm7786 marner is a great player for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in years....however for a team trying to go deep in the play offs he just isn't the right tool... Like using a hammer to saw a piece of wood
Agreed, but like really having almost 50mil tied up in just 4 players is wild and if they get resigned the contracts need to be a lot more team friendly
@@richardhayling4339 how can you say that? He’s produced most out of our core. None of the core show up the first 4 games of the series and expect to win in 7 games. Why do you think he’s “not the right tool”?
Mitch Marner is the product of playing alongside the best goal scorer in hockey. The definition of empty stats, similar to demar derozan with the raptors. I feel like once he does leave or if he does, it would expose this even more due to playing alongside lesser teammates
This is going to be a major distraction. It's going to be an issue all year. Hopefully they trade mitch at the trade deadline, I don't give a crap what we get for him, just something. It's not going to be an easy ride this year for him, he's going to get a lot of shade thrown his direction, from me as well!!
If Tavares signs an extension, probably 3 years at around 5 mill., that means that the Leafs would have an additional 6.5 mil on the cap to STUPIDLY give to Marner. I'm sorry, neither Marner of Matthews have looked beyond their personal achievements and WANTS to help the Leaf's succeed. I would sign Marner to a new three year contract at 14.5 with a no movement clause in year 3, then get the most out of him for the upcoming year and the first year of his new contract and then trade him to whatever team finished in last place that year, even retaining part of his salary if I had to. Then I would trade Matthews and use the 8 or 0 draft choices, prospects or players that I got for the two of them to totally rebuild this team. I would do whatever I could to use whatever mouthwash that I needed to get the stink of Shannybreath away from this team.
When Marner played with Tavares, that season Tavares had a career high 47 goals. Without Marner, Mathews doesn’t get all those scoring records. Proof is out there, just look at Mathews career goals and Marner’s assisted on 90% of those goals. The media is doing the exact same thing they did with Kadri. Force him out of town.
No Way Leafs pay Marner 12 to 14 Million Dollars per season. That money could be used to sign 2 to 3 free agents, that could really help solidify the team in other areas instead of one player who is too robotic, does not make adjustments and disappears in the playoffs.
Saying that you can sign a second line centre with the money left over from JT’s reduced contract next year is a ridiculous statement . Next year Joe Woll goes up by almost 3 mil, Matt Knies goes up a few million and if you resign JT at 4/5 mil, there’s your almost 11 mil of cap space gone.
The Leafs need to he savage with Marner. He shouldn't be playing if he's not resigned. Trade him or sign him to a team friendly deal. It'll not bench him!!!
If these players wanting to cup in toronto then take a discount for a couple of years and let them bring in the players they need to do it. This roster is another first or second round exit. How much money is enough for these guys
I wish they hadn't signed Nylander to that contract. Now of course Marner is going to want to get more than Nylander. But Nylander got the money first, so they have to HAVE TO let Marner go. They can't possibly be so stupid as to continue to have 3 players making $12M+ can they?
You do realize Marner has been making $4M more per year than Marner for half a decade now and Nylander just got a $600k raise on Marner’s current salary…
Market is not worth 12 mil on the leafs. They won’t win a cup this season with tweaking the lineup. They need a couple of top 6 forwards and another notable defenseman and a healthy Will in net.
These seasons aren’t important anymore. Managements lack of foresight isn’t going to win a cup. The ship has sailed on this era of Leafs winning anything.
Nothing wrong with Mitch Marner, seven years being in Toronto and done nothing in the playoffs. You cannot pay a player that type of money that does not do good in the playoffs. That’s the most important thing I don’t care about the regular season or what he does playoffs is the key to win the Stanley Cupkeep doing that you give him his money and he’s gonna keep playing the same way for me. I don’t care if you walk or use the money somewhere else people that actually want to play in Toronto not just for money.
Marner not being a playoff performing?? None of the leafs have been a playoff performer... your new captain bailed on your team last playoffs 😂😂 pretty pathetic
I dont think marner is worth 12 mil at that payscale you are saying hes as good as mckinnon better than Kucherov better than Pastrnak better than Draisitl and as good as Mcdavid hes not in the coversation as being in that conversation if he wants to stay a leaf and allow the team to be competitive i think somewhere around what he makes now or a little bit less is worth it for him pastrnak took 9.5 to stay in boston kucherov took around 10 to stay in tampa and it is sounding like draisaitl will take between 10 and 11 to stay in edmonton and mcdavid said he would take a team friendly deal to keep edmontons cup window open this greed by the core needs to stop or they wont win a cup
How can you say Marner is a great or even good player when everyone knows he doesn't perform in the playoffs? Media hype makes him sound like a great player. He gives up in the playoffs. You said it yourself.
If I were in charge, I would give him an ultimatum. Prove you can perform in the playoffs. And if you can't, offer 6 million. Take it or leave it. There are other fish in the pond who will try harder for well under 8 million.
Why does a player like Mitch Marner have to break out this year? What happened to the player who wants to just play Mitch Marner got his money you guys are saying or sorry one person said he worked $12 million so he’s gonna play a ready gear this year because of his contract is up and that is wrong that shows you the players attitude and commitment to the team sorry sorry he’s at seven years and done. Nothing in the playoffs.
DO NOT sign NEITHER Players ...SAVINGS of 22M next season 2025-26 ... $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for Treliving to play with for 2 TOP D and Forwards where are needed in the lineup
Treliving needs to extend Marner without a full no-trade clause, allow him to raise his value then trade him in the next off season for a stud Dman. Otherwise Marner walks and the Leafs get nothing.
Nothing wrong with Mitch Marner, seven years being in Toronto and done nothing in the playoffs. You cannot pay a player that type of money that does not do good in the playoffs. That’s the most important thing I don’t care about the regular season or what he does playoffs is the key to win the Stanley Cupkeep doing that you give him his money and he’s gonna keep playing the same way for me. I don’t care if you walk or use the money somewhere else people that actually want to play in Toronto not just for money.
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He says he wants to be a leaf. But if he really wanted to be a leaf he wouldn’t screw over the team’s salary cap.
At the same time as he underperforms when it matters most. Just say no, Brad.
@@LeCurryBron that's almost like saying, since it's a charity it's okay to be paid under market value.
F Marner. We don't want that bastard. How did that wimp get to wear the "A"
Yeah, just like Matthew's did😮
Leafs always expect a handout.
If Marner wants to stay he needs to drop what he wants and do what's best for the team. He's already made his millions
@@shawnmartin5201 He has been a better player than Nylander so that should be the comparison for salary.
If Marner wants more let him walk, for a guy that’s keeps say I love playing for the leafs, prove it
With jt and marner off the books we can really build a team that can win the cup no more bad contracts can’t win with 4 players making almost 60 percent of the cap it’s nuts!
I'm a Mitch Marner fan but he definitely has criticism.
If Marner excels under Berube and leads the team to playoff success, I'm open to matching Nylander's contract with a no-trade clause for 10 or 15 teams. Otherwise, I'd prioritize using that money to invest in future centers.
As I've stated here previously. Tavares' lower contract money, will go to Marner!!!!
NO GOOD! Get rid of Marner, and his GREED
How can you give him Leon Drai (oilers)i Money, and Domi @ 3.75 Mil is a better linemate for #34. Cannot believe he wants 10 Mil more then Domi and Domi is better in the playoffs.
To stay sane remember everything we hear through the media is from the Marner camp. Personally it’s the same contract as Willy or goodbye. In reality I expect a 6 year deal at 12.25. Which is absurd I know. Imo he’s never been worth more than Willy and the playoffs have proved it.
Absolutely not , Leon is top 3 current NHL players period.
Marner is top 25 at best, he should never command the same value just based on that alone never mind Leon is a proven play-off performer Marner should be getting 9 with incentives based on performances for huge bonuses that Toronto can afford to pay should he show up when it counts
Mathews has 360 goals in his career and Marner has assisted on over 330 of them. Saying Domi is a better line mate for Mathews is just dreaming.
@@WillPe8 Marner should have signed his his contract same as willy at 6.9 Million not 11 Million, Dubas screwed the leafs and he wants Mathews money in the 13 range. Marner needs Mathews more then Mathews needs Marner. Dubas gave him everything 11 Mill and No trade, where was the negocation? Cannot believe both make more then Pasta and he is the best blayer in Boston.
@@geedubb-q1ulol - might want to fact check that…Marner didn’t even play with Matthews for his first 3 years and arguably he was at his best with Bertuzzi and Domi last year
Here’s my bone to pick with the leafs organization and fans… they say Marner is soft. But then they sign Nylander to 11.5X8. They say Marner isn’t a playoff performer. But he has most PPG out of our core In the playoffs. They say Marner isn’t worth more money. But they give Willy a 5 mill a year increase when he’s only had one really good season. The fact of the matter is that Marner makes the players around him better. Point blank. Period. That’s what superstars do. Without Marner Tavares don’t get 47 goals hud first year as a leaf. Without Marner, Matthew doesn’t get 69 goals last season. And to be honest without Marner, the leafs probably don’t make the playoffs in our division.
So getting rid of Marner would be the biggest mistake this organization has ever made. The problem was giving Tavares as much as they did for as long as they did. And also, giving Willie as much as they did.
@shanebrohm7786 marner is a great player for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in years....however for a team trying to go deep in the play offs he just isn't the right tool...
Like using a hammer to saw a piece of wood
@shanebrohm7786 not to mention his attitude sucks never thinks he has anything to work on .never takes responsibility for his mistakes
Agreed, but like really having almost 50mil tied up in just 4 players is wild and if they get resigned the contracts need to be a lot more team friendly
@@richardhayling4339 how can you say that? He’s produced most out of our core. None of the core show up the first 4 games of the series and expect to win in 7 games. Why do you think he’s “not the right tool”?
@@richardhayling4339 lol who’s your source? How do you know this?
Mitch Marner is the product of playing alongside the best goal scorer in hockey. The definition of empty stats, similar to demar derozan with the raptors. I feel like once he does leave or if he does, it would expose this even more due to playing alongside lesser teammates
This is going to be a major distraction. It's going to be an issue all year. Hopefully they trade mitch at the trade deadline, I don't give a crap what we get for him, just something. It's not going to be an easy ride this year for him, he's going to get a lot of shade thrown his direction, from me as well!!
If Tavares signs an extension, probably 3 years at around 5 mill., that means that the Leafs would have an additional 6.5 mil on the cap to STUPIDLY give to Marner. I'm sorry, neither Marner of Matthews have looked beyond their personal achievements and WANTS to help the Leaf's succeed. I would sign Marner to a new three year contract at 14.5 with a no movement clause in year 3, then get the most out of him for the upcoming year and the first year of his new contract and then trade him to whatever team finished in last place that year, even retaining part of his salary if I had to. Then I would trade Matthews and use the 8 or 0 draft choices, prospects or players that I got for the two of them to totally rebuild this team. I would do whatever I could to use whatever mouthwash that I needed to get the stink of Shannybreath away from this team.
When Marner played with Tavares, that season Tavares had a career high 47 goals. Without Marner, Mathews doesn’t get all those scoring records. Proof is out there, just look at Mathews career goals and Marner’s assisted on 90% of those goals. The media is doing the exact same thing they did with Kadri. Force him out of town.
No Way Leafs pay Marner 12 to 14 Million Dollars per season. That money could be used to sign 2 to 3 free agents, that could really help solidify the team in other areas instead of one player who is too robotic, does not make adjustments and disappears in the playoffs.
Saying that you can sign a second line centre with the money left over from JT’s reduced contract next year is a ridiculous statement . Next year Joe Woll goes up by almost 3 mil, Matt Knies goes up a few million and if you resign JT at 4/5 mil, there’s your almost 11 mil of cap space gone.
Marner is gunna be walking boys
The Leafs need to he savage with Marner. He shouldn't be playing if he's not resigned. Trade him or sign him to a team friendly deal. It'll not bench him!!!
I think if he wants to stay he needs to take less. $9.3 mil aav
Call up Buffalo. Marner for Thompson and a 2nd. Marner might do it still close to home and he would be the big guy there.
No player is worth 12 million dollars because they make lots of money from endorsements
If these players wanting to cup in toronto then take a discount for a couple of years and let them bring in the players they need to do it. This roster is another first or second round exit. How much money is enough for these guys
14 million! No way in hell dude. More like a 9 million dollar player
Who is the Captain of the Leafs? Who is his best friend? Of course, Marner is getting extended. John Tavares is paying for it. Think!
I wish they hadn't signed Nylander to that contract. Now of course Marner is going to want to get more than Nylander. But Nylander got the money first, so they have to HAVE TO let Marner go. They can't possibly be so stupid as to continue to have 3 players making $12M+ can they?
You do realize Marner has been making $4M more per year than Marner for half a decade now and Nylander just got a $600k raise on Marner’s current salary…
Marner 9 mill by 8, Tavares 3 by 3?
you think Marner is signing a contract without a no move and you think Leafs will give him one? not a chance
Market is not worth 12 mil on the leafs. They won’t win a cup this season with tweaking the lineup. They need a couple of top 6 forwards and another notable defenseman and a healthy Will in net.
These seasons aren’t important anymore. Managements lack of foresight isn’t going to win a cup. The ship has sailed on this era of Leafs winning anything.
Is he the Bo Bichette of hockey?
IF Treliving resigns JT MAX 1.5-2 M , 1 YEAR contract the MOST for 3rd or 4th line Winger 35 years old
Nothing wrong with Mitch Marner, seven years being in Toronto and done nothing in the playoffs. You cannot pay a player that type of money that does not do good in the playoffs. That’s the most important thing I don’t care about the regular season or what he does playoffs is the key to win the Stanley Cupkeep doing that you give him his money and he’s gonna keep playing the same way for me. I don’t care if you walk or use the money somewhere else people that actually want to play in Toronto not just for money.
Mitch is a good regular season player, and he just doesn’t thrive with playoff officials.
Marner not being a playoff performing?? None of the leafs have been a playoff performer... your new captain bailed on your team last playoffs 😂😂 pretty pathetic
I dont think marner is worth 12 mil at that payscale you are saying hes as good as mckinnon better than Kucherov better than Pastrnak better than Draisitl and as good as Mcdavid hes not in the coversation as being in that conversation if he wants to stay a leaf and allow the team to be competitive i think somewhere around what he makes now or a little bit less is worth it for him pastrnak took 9.5 to stay in boston kucherov took around 10 to stay in tampa and it is sounding like draisaitl will take between 10 and 11 to stay in edmonton and mcdavid said he would take a team friendly deal to keep edmontons cup window open this greed by the core needs to stop or they wont win a cup
How can you say Marner is a great or even good player when everyone knows he doesn't perform in the playoffs? Media hype makes him sound like a great player. He gives up in the playoffs. You said it yourself.
If I were in charge, I would give him an ultimatum. Prove you can perform in the playoffs. And if you can't, offer 6 million. Take it or leave it. There are other fish in the pond who will try harder for well under 8 million.
Why does a player like Mitch Marner have to break out this year? What happened to the player who wants to just play Mitch Marner got his money you guys are saying or sorry one person said he worked $12 million so he’s gonna play a ready gear this year because of his contract is up and that is wrong that shows you the players attitude and commitment to the team sorry sorry he’s at seven years and done. Nothing in the playoffs.
trade Mitch or let him walk .Sign JT at 5 mill. no more
Tavares 5 year 3.8 mil per.
Jt is taking 3m a year
Give him Nylander money … let’s get it done and move on!
For the love of leaf fans, sign marner or/ and fire shanny and brad please.
Johnny hockey signs for no less 2-3 years at 7mil…..sorry boys!
Gottaa sign Mather. Shouldn’t have signed Willy.
Mitch is definitely not 6 foot 😂
DO NOT sign NEITHER Players ...SAVINGS of 22M next season 2025-26 ... $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for Treliving to play with for 2 TOP D and Forwards where are needed in the lineup
Leafs will never win a cup with mitch marner
Canadian teams do not win Cups. Nothing to do with any particular players.
@@johnsummerhill8323maybe getting an American captain and starting goalie will change that?
How does being an American as a captain have any correlation to winning 🤣 that’s the dumbest comment
@@FalconFlyer75 No. Changing the cap rules so they don't favour American teams will change that.
@johnsummerhill8323 it is quite insane , the cap should be even for everynody and taking state tax into account
You guys are all gonna eat your words this year when marner puts up 120 points. Its crazy how many people dont know anything about hockey.
Marner is gone ... he can stay for 8.5 mill
They sign Marner they will never win as again
Treliving needs to extend Marner without a full no-trade clause, allow him to raise his value then trade him in the next off season for a stud Dman. Otherwise Marner walks and the Leafs get nothing.
Marner in TO for life!!
Unless he takes a discount it’s not happening in Toronto and he’s shown he’s about the max money he can get
@@kevinalexander2951
I'm sure he'll take slightly less, but it won't be significant
I refuse to watch thi shitty team till marner , matthews are traded !! Shanahan ans trelivinh fired then maybw we watch this tewm
Nothing wrong with Mitch Marner, seven years being in Toronto and done nothing in the playoffs. You cannot pay a player that type of money that does not do good in the playoffs. That’s the most important thing I don’t care about the regular season or what he does playoffs is the key to win the Stanley Cupkeep doing that you give him his money and he’s gonna keep playing the same way for me. I don’t care if you walk or use the money somewhere else people that actually want to play in Toronto not just for money.