You're missing out Nana Hedin, one of the most important keys to Cheiron's success. So many of their dance tracks have a chorus from her, and so many pop records feature backing vocals by her. She has an incredible voice that was very prominent on so many hits, and a great ear for recording multiple-part harmonies for an almost choir-sound,
I’m so happy that “The Name Of The Game” is being referenced in this documentary. Even by 2020 standards, it’s still one of the most complex pop songs ever written, produced and arranged, and it inspired even bigger tunes. ABBA forever, damn it.
17:38 this has to be the most badass visual/audio moment in any Cheiron documentary. No Coke has always been a quintessential Denniz PoP song in my opinion and seeing Cheiron at night with the lights on with that song in the background is cool AF
Sweden, like many countries in history, invaded Poland a few centuries ago. As a Polish pop music fan, I TOTALLY forgive them. Most of the 2000s/2010s mainstream songs I have been growing up with are created by Swedish producers and I didn't even know this until a few days ago. Now when I look back, I cannot imagine my childhood/teenage years without Avicii, Tove Lo, and all these worldwide hits of Britney and many other artists created by Max Martin. I Wanna Go is probably my favorite song ever and no one does electronic music as well as Swedes and other Germanic nations like Norwegians, Danish, UK, or Dutch people :P
I’ve just come back from Stockholm and had the pleasure to visit the former Cheiron studios. The sound of my youth. I wish I could have entered the building.
Gothenburg a simple town? Second largest city in Sweden with its own pop sound, Broder Daniel and Håkan Hellström for example. Even their own rock sound.
@@assianeu197 It's called Melodic death metal or Gothenburg metal: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melodic_death_metal Some bands are: In Flames - from Gothenburg Amon Amarth - from Stockholm but playing Gothenburg metal
It’s more focused on the Hit Factory of Max Martin. So many great Swedish artists were not mentioned whom I love, Alcazar, BWO, September, Da Buzz, Veronica Meggo etc
Yeah...Avicii had more than ten top ten hits in Europe and is top 50 most listened alltime on Spotify. He was also very swedish - with a sense of simplicity, "bigness" and melody.
As a Stockholm resident of the same age as these guys I think the whole "Jante" law bit is highly exaggerated. Sure, if you left the big cities or listened to the old school establishment then you could find resistance to sticking out from the crowd and you can still find it in rural areas. This was also the period when Sweden went from a socialist country to a neo liberal country, when Swedish companies and technology was conquering the world, so the mood was changing fast and there was more support than resistance at least from my viewpoint in the capital.
@@_loss_ If you are an arrogant prick when you flaunt your wealth you will be disliked everywhere - except possibly in your inner circle. Sure there are some circles around the ultra wealthy where dickishness is the norm, but they are rare and dispised by all around them. Go to the wealthier suburbs around the big Swedish cities and you will see people flaunting their wealth anf that is the same as in other places around the world. Now, I would agree that it's more accepted in USA to flaunt wealth a lot more than in Europe but I don't think there is a big difference if we compare big cities.
I I agree, but it is not just in the big cities, it's even more a small city thing. But it very much depends on how one behave and treat others. People who start treating others bad when they get successful will always be looked down at. But the ones that treat others with kindness, will be loved even when they show their wealth. And a little sidenote, Sweden have never been a socialist country, it have been a social democracy. Which is in it's core capitalism with added social safetynets and publicly owned, not for profit, core structures, like infrastructure and other basic needs.
@@magnuslundstedt2659 "Sweden have never been a socialist country" Technically true even though Europeans mostly equate Socialism with Social Democracy and Sweden was and is a European style Social Democracy.
It is useful for the public to understand why virtually all pop music sounds exactly the same and why so many vocal performances are cloying and affected. For people who grew up with the amazing music of the '60s and '70s (even the '80s), modern pop and rap/hip-hop hold no appeal whatsoever.
Story about Roxette is interesting but it started and ended with them. They did not cause a significant rings on the water effect the same way Denniz Pop did.
@@tovep9573nit really.. this documentary ls about Chevron the story that is often not told. Also, compare to Gesle, chevron ks orders of magnitude larger.
With an unproven statement like pop music was in its infancy in the 90s then there was no pop before? Just how many times has this guy been dropped on his head as an INFANT? So now I’m guessing pop music is now what, an embryo maybe an egg? Because pop music has seen little changes minor synth mixed with since the late 90s. In fact between 1995 to 2021 I seriously doubt anyone without knowing the exact artist can honestly tell you what decade of pop you are hearing lol That’s because music has flatlined
He said "modern pop" and he said it more than once. You're even implying yourself that it hasn't changed significantly since the mid 90's, because it's exactly that; modern pop. Pop music obviously existed prior to the 90's but that's not an argument he's making in the documentary.
The issue is that some people still tall eurobeat pop.. becuse it become so massive and everually basically took over the busniess. Its also sort of mixing rnb, rap, american dance and so on. So its sort of a non specific category.
Well, it needs some texture, some soul, real emotions and some guts. Otherwise it's fine and obviously makes you rich. I like the poor and interesting game better. And btw, some lyrics that actually means something would be nice.@@technodiscolovers9050
So Ace of base was hated by the swedish media and of course the americans were just supporting their own bands. Wow sweden well done! Any other country would support their own people you did the total opposite thing. I mean watching this video is very misleading. It should be called Denis pop. Also, it feels like that Denis pop/max did "Everything" which is not true. A lot of credit should go to Jonas and Ulf for producing their own songs and albums. All Dennis pop did is copy his beats that he did to Ace of base and pasted it to the garbage bands in America. American songs had no creativity no innovation. Americans actually did the right thing to invest in American bands rather than investing in Ace of base. I think Dennis pop betrayed the swedish bands and focused more on him being rich and popular. I see no honour in that.
Swedes loved Ace of Base, the critiques not so much. But they didn't like Britney, NSYNC etc. either. Also why should you like something just because it's from your own country?! Just because Americans are so damn narrow-minded lol
it is so "swedish" safe, schlager, meaningless, tranquilizer, unprovoking, not offensive to anybody. 1. pop is probably the lamest of all genres. pop is advanced schlager. 2. it's huxley music like commercials, superficial and therapeutic. antidepressant. 3. it is probably good cocktail party music. 4. sometimes, you need this music. motivation, want to feel good.
Depends on which type of pop you are referring too. It’s really up to you if you choose to be fed mainstream pop instead of digging deeper for the real goodies
You're missing out Nana Hedin, one of the most important keys to Cheiron's success. So many of their dance tracks have a chorus from her, and so many pop records feature backing vocals by her. She has an incredible voice that was very prominent on so many hits, and a great ear for recording multiple-part harmonies for an almost choir-sound,
Respect to Sweden's music genuises!!!
Someone really needs to create a biopic about Denniz Pop.
I’m so happy that “The Name Of The Game” is being referenced in this documentary. Even by 2020 standards, it’s still one of the most complex pop songs ever written, produced and arranged, and it inspired even bigger tunes. ABBA forever, damn it.
Well ABBA has not any conection to any of this people so mixing in there songs make it real strange., It looks like the have wite song for ABBA.,
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@@arnisan2010 My thought too. In fact I've just seen someone reacting to the programme who believed exactly that.
@@arnisan2010 The connection is that ABBA has been an important influence on their songwriting.
Being a musician and a big fan of the music of this era, I really enjoyed this. Thanks.
Good job! A fair description of the swedish music wonder.
this documentary is an ear-opener. OMG this one caught me by surprised
17:38 this has to be the most badass visual/audio moment in any Cheiron documentary. No Coke has always been a quintessential Denniz PoP song in my opinion and seeing Cheiron at night with the lights on with that song in the background is cool AF
Thank you sooo much for this!!! Denniz Pop Forever!!!❤
Sweden, like many countries in history, invaded Poland a few centuries ago. As a Polish pop music fan, I TOTALLY forgive them. Most of the 2000s/2010s mainstream songs I have been growing up with are created by Swedish producers and I didn't even know this until a few days ago. Now when I look back, I cannot imagine my childhood/teenage years without Avicii, Tove Lo, and all these worldwide hits of Britney and many other artists created by Max Martin. I Wanna Go is probably my favorite song ever and no one does electronic music as well as Swedes and other Germanic nations like Norwegians, Danish, UK, or Dutch people :P
Thank you for this documentary, it is exceptionally well done!
I’ve just come back from Stockholm and had the pleasure to visit the former Cheiron studios. The sound of my youth. I wish I could have entered the building.
Amazing, that’s definitely a place I want to visit. It should have me turned into a museum, the legacy that’s within the building
@@technodiscolovers9050 They first need to kick out the current recording studio then en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxy_Recordings
Brilliant doc and well reported by James B.
Thanks so much for the upload! Awesome doc 😃😃
Super interesting, thank you for this!
Great documentary!
The swedish metal scene 👍
The greatest story in modern music.
27:21 is the pinnacle of their formula. Cool.
Thanks for this! So interesting❤
whats the song at 3:26 ? great vid
ABBA was first to mix in swedish folk music in to their music
I strongly suspect that we have only seen the beginning of [our] music career
Gothenburg a simple town? Second largest city in Sweden with its own pop sound, Broder Daniel and Håkan Hellström for example. Even their own rock sound.
what's some good rock band you recommend?
@@assianeu197 It's called Melodic death metal or Gothenburg metal: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melodic_death_metal
Some bands are:
In Flames - from Gothenburg
Amon Amarth - from Stockholm but playing Gothenburg metal
Maybe Göteborg owes the world a apology for hellström
"Tested for destruction". They did the work.
Nice video, but you make it sound like it's always winter in Sweden, not true.
No we also have cold springtimes, cold summers (that start as soon as you leave work for your vacations) and what else...oh, cold autumns.
On no...of cause its not. Now we are in the middle of high spring... april 19... and its snowing
And then there was "Swedish house mafia" and "Avicii".. Not even mentioned in this doc :-)
It’s more focused on the Hit Factory of Max Martin. So many great Swedish artists were not mentioned whom I love, Alcazar, BWO, September, Da Buzz, Veronica Meggo etc
swemix records Stonebridge was Steve angellos mentor and close friend, if you wanted a tie with swedish house mafia :)
Yeah...Avicii had more than ten top ten hits in Europe and is top 50 most listened alltime on Spotify. He was also very swedish - with a sense of simplicity, "bigness" and melody.
@@nysq Everyone already knows avicii
...and then there's the whole Swedish metal movement...
As a Stockholm resident of the same age as these guys I think the whole "Jante" law bit is highly exaggerated. Sure, if you left the big cities or listened to the old school establishment then you could find resistance to sticking out from the crowd and you can still find it in rural areas. This was also the period when Sweden went from a socialist country to a neo liberal country, when Swedish companies and technology was conquering the world, so the mood was changing fast and there was more support than resistance at least from my viewpoint in the capital.
It's still very frowned on and seen as trashy to flaunt wealth. Like if you act like you're better that others, people will dislike you.
@@_loss_ If you are an arrogant prick when you flaunt your wealth you will be disliked everywhere - except possibly in your inner circle. Sure there are some circles around the ultra wealthy where dickishness is the norm, but they are rare and dispised by all around them.
Go to the wealthier suburbs around the big Swedish cities and you will see people flaunting their wealth anf that is the same as in other places around the world.
Now, I would agree that it's more accepted in USA to flaunt wealth a lot more than in Europe but I don't think there is a big difference if we compare big cities.
I I agree, but it is not just in the big cities, it's even more a small city thing.
But it very much depends on how one behave and treat others. People who start treating others bad when they get successful will always be looked down at. But the ones that treat others with kindness, will be loved even when they show their wealth.
And a little sidenote, Sweden have never been a socialist country, it have been a social democracy. Which is in it's core capitalism with added social safetynets and publicly owned, not for profit, core structures, like infrastructure and other basic needs.
@@magnuslundstedt2659 "Sweden have never been a socialist country" Technically true even though Europeans mostly equate Socialism with Social Democracy and Sweden was and is a European style Social Democracy.
@@jonasfermefors but equating socialism with social democracy is very ignorant. It is like equating pop with metall.
Ace of Base.
Wow
the music of max martin could make even a man in a wheelchair get up and dance.
It is useful for the public to understand why virtually all pop music sounds exactly the same and why so many vocal performances are cloying and affected. For people who grew up with the amazing music of the '60s and '70s (even the '80s), modern pop and rap/hip-hop hold no appeal whatsoever.
Write adress please Cheiron studio
Drottningholmsvägen 35 Stockholm
@@davidLAMF , thanks, was visit there
These guys need to be held to account they’ve pumped the world with a lot of shit music (but also a few guilty pleasures lol 😆)
We didn't dance to fucking "By By By!"
We danced to."Oochy Koochy" and "French Kiss!"
Wvärpabeer
Didn’t play any Roxette songs¿ you gotta be kidding me…
They didn’t work with Cheiron that’s why
Roxette is the brainchild of another legendary songwriter: Per Gessle
Yes they made it seem like the Swedish pop miracle originated in just one person. Still interesting though - even if they missed half the story.
Story about Roxette is interesting but it started and ended with them. They did not cause a significant rings on the water effect the same way Denniz Pop did.
@@tovep9573nit really.. this documentary ls about Chevron the story that is often not told.
Also, compare to Gesle, chevron ks orders of magnitude larger.
At first whe I saw Ace of bace on MTV I thought myself that they are a poor Russian band with accent.
With an unproven statement like pop music was in its infancy in the 90s then there was no pop before? Just how many times has this guy been dropped on his head as an INFANT? So now I’m guessing pop music is now what, an embryo maybe an egg? Because pop music has seen little changes minor synth mixed with since the late 90s. In fact between 1995 to 2021 I seriously doubt anyone without knowing the exact artist can honestly tell you what decade of pop you are hearing lol That’s because music has flatlined
He said "modern pop" and he said it more than once. You're even implying yourself that it hasn't changed significantly since the mid 90's, because it's exactly that; modern pop. Pop music obviously existed prior to the 90's but that's not an argument he's making in the documentary.
The issue is that some people still tall eurobeat pop.. becuse it become so massive and everually basically took over the busniess. Its also sort of mixing rnb, rap, american dance and so on. So its sort of a non specific category.
Great video, but swedes make music for real as well.
What’s not real about this music?
Well, it needs some texture, some soul, real emotions and some guts. Otherwise it's fine and obviously makes you rich. I like the poor and interesting game better. And btw, some lyrics that actually means something would be nice.@@technodiscolovers9050
Superintresant BUT! this melodic math, i just dont like this music, and i like a lot of different music, but not this. Well, some, a liile...
So Ace of base was hated by the swedish media and of course the americans were just supporting their own bands. Wow sweden well done! Any other country would support their own people you did the total opposite thing. I mean watching this video is very misleading. It should be called Denis pop. Also, it feels like that Denis pop/max did "Everything" which is not true. A lot of credit should go to Jonas and Ulf for producing their own songs and albums. All Dennis pop did is copy his beats that he did to Ace of base and pasted it to the garbage bands in America. American songs had no creativity no innovation. Americans actually did the right thing to invest in American bands rather than investing in Ace of base. I think Dennis pop betrayed the swedish bands and focused more on him being rich and popular. I see no honour in that.
It's wildly exaggerated, and the swedish public loved ace of base, so who cares about what some music journalists think in the end.
Swedes loved Ace of Base, the critiques not so much. But they didn't like Britney, NSYNC etc. either. Also why should you like something just because it's from your own country?! Just because Americans are so damn narrow-minded lol
it is so "swedish"
safe, schlager, meaningless, tranquilizer, unprovoking, not offensive to anybody.
1. pop is probably the lamest of all genres. pop is advanced schlager.
2. it's huxley music like commercials, superficial and therapeutic. antidepressant.
3. it is probably good cocktail party music.
4. sometimes, you need this music. motivation, want to feel good.
Depends on which type of pop you are referring too. It’s really up to you if you choose to be fed mainstream pop instead of digging deeper for the real goodies
@@technodiscolovers9050i listen to swedish produced pop sometimes. i like it sometimes. it was a neutral assessment.
Pop is not the style, its the result