BEFORE YOU COMMENT ABOUT THE FIRESTARTER HAKITA HAS CONFIRMED THAT IT INTENTIONALLY DOES NOT INCREASE DAMAGE DEALT TO ENEMIES OTHER THAN THE FEW THAT ALREADY TOOK BONUS DAMAGE WHILE ON FIRE as far as I'm aware the jumpstart one shotting sisyphus was actually a bug caused by a mod i have installed, this can't happen in vanilla it is still however incredibly strong in other ways lol
Linguini put 4 cerberi near and then launch many nails and it will just kill them or even better is put 3 cerberi and then put magnets in them and then shoot alternate fire of jumpstart You can break 5-3 and 6-1 with oil and doors bug Fire make enemies take 1.5x damage and guttertanks will slip on gasoline even in brutal i think
if anybody wants to know, the mod was jaket (an ultrakill multiplayer mod). i was wondering why this was happening too and i just thought it was so weird…
i don't really care what they do about the jackhammer, nerf it or not. the design is extremely fun to mess around with and it's kind of like a different sub-playstyle where you go fast as hell at everything you see
It might need a little nerfing and i feel the firestarter (red rocket) needs some buffing too. It's a very cool idea and concept but i'm not finding much use for it, even in niche or situational scenarios
@@linguini645i don't agree tbh Its a trade off for losing shotgun swapping, projectile boosts, and the instant damage You need to setup for the max power of the jackhammer You put yourself at a lot of risk to perform the crazy damage.
@@digitalizedmind6784 if you add pressing the "previous variation" keybind to normal shotgun swapping (after you swap forward, swap back) you can shotgun swap with only one default shotgun. DOUBLE JACKHAMMER SHENANIGANS
to be completely fair I was dead tired writing that, my mistake. Anyways the bug repeats itself and the damage stacks killing the boss in a few frames.
Saying that the railcannon and overpump "don't even come close" in terms of damage when it's like 5% less damage at most feels a little extreme especially since landing that hit puts it on cooldown and you've also lost the utility of having a shotgun in place of the jackhammer We already have the S.R.S cannon which will effectively oneshot a cerb in the same scenarios a jackhammer will And don't even get me started on what sawtraps have done to the balancing of this game. If you want to talk broken and overpowered start there
@@digitalizedmind6784 like i said in the other comment, shotgun swapping with only 2 + a delay between one of the shots is way harder, and using previous/next variation switching is uncomfortable.
@@Net_15 Ive been doing it a bit and i think its only because youre not used to it, plus even if it was "harder" to shotgun swap with 2 the alt is too good to pass up. Also its just a skill issue
jackhammer is fine imo, you have to remember enemies like v2 move around a fuck ton so if you can get off the full overpump WITH the red gauge impact on him i think you deserve it. jumpstart on the other hand is broken as hell bruh
pro tip, you can give V2 a orbital strike via freezeframe rockets + jackhammer in its first (and maybe) and second fight. just slap a bunch of rockets in the air and push them down onto V2 with the Jackhammer. be careful where you place them tho Jumpstart however is pure carnage and the fact that it gives you a shitload of style (which is a bug that Hakita did not patch out iirc)
I think that Gabriel’s saw glitch is cause by Gabriel’s teleporting, as he also teleports with his own projectile (his spinning swords) and the game gets confused and takes your saw with the swords, like a projectile magnet, since it’s coded to have the projectiles teleport with him.
there is a good alternative to core nuke by just launching core upward, jump and jack hammer below to detonate core to get a smaller jump, then use green jackhammer to overpump and launch yourself in opposite direction of detonation. that way, you save railcannon charge too.
the main thing that balances the jackhammer in my eyes is the fact you get jack shit for healing unless you're using the chainsaw so you're giving up a lot of the utility of the normal shotguns where you just pull them up upclose for heals that along with it having a very commital playstyle having you use the jacky most of the time it gets rewards you for getting close which for the big meta of the game or for cybergrind where I like to play is to not really get close and shoot shit from offstage
What makes the Fire Starter NUTS is apparently most enemies set on fire by your oil take 150% extra damage from all other sources! Some enemies like Insurrectionists take 200% extra damage from all other sources while on fire from your oil! I have not seen any one use the Fire Starter to its fullest potential but I bet top runners can make it look broken in time with a enough practice.
Nah this has been a feature for every weapon that can ignite enemies like shotgun cores projectile boosts overheat saws etc. What makes this weapon so much better with fire than others is that the duration of the fire effect with oil is pretty much doubled in comparison to every other weapon
They dont take increased damage(except husks), stop spreading this bullshit and check the facts before sharing them ffs, cerberi has 22 hp, they take 5,25 hp from rockets and get set on fire(if they are oiled up). Hitting them w/ pre-nerf alt shotty at high speed should finish them off( 22 - 5,25 - 12*1,5 = 16,75 - 18 = -1,25), but they are alive and have at least 4 hp, increased damage while being on fire is only the husk thing
Sadly this is false, because the official Twitter account for the game doesn’t know how to count.it does 50% more damage, 150% total damage compared to without it.
I love the jackhammer I think it’s a lot of fun and very satisfying. Also you can turn the core eject into a makeshift malicious rail cannon that dose a little less damage but recharges in 2 seconds. It also bounces off of coins, and if you can manage too hit another explosive with it you can make a nuke.
i swear to god. the jackhammer is a melee range weapon requiring momentum to do damage. forcing u to get close. closer than normal shotty. if it gets nerfed im gonna scream some things that will make even the painter dude jealous.
That doesn't mean anything though because you're in melee range for a fraction of a second before you get launched out of melee range. I'd still say regular shotgun is better for weaker enemies though.
I would like to say that although it has a cooldown, the SRS cannon will do more damage than a max-pump alt-shotgun with less setup. The alt Shotgun is meant to replace one of the strongest weapon in the game, and having one in your loadout pretty much removes shotgun swapping: it has to be good because making it even a tad bit balanced would have made it useless and harmful to your gameplay.
@@boxmantherandom the cooldown on a full charge blast (especially after the nerf) can be negated by it it really helps if you need heavy damage on multiple targets like sentries
the alt shotgun has to do more damage because it fires so much slower if you did a dps test with shot gun swapping / projectile boosting I'm sure it would be closer
JumpStart nailgun gives nail conductivity & also you CAN switch to the other sawblade launchers, leaving the primary fire as a stronger alternative for close range only, which the JumpStart excels in. What IS broken, is the udnerwater oil. Underwater oil explodes and each one gives explosion damage separately, meaning you can 2 shot (sandbox) minos prime. Though, dry firestarter is quite bad :(
I feel the shotgun alt gets heavily less powerful the moment you are in a close arena, it needs a lot of windup space for the speed and also needs a lot of prep in using it. I do think is powerful but it feels as powerful as placing saw blades and magnets to kill fodder enemies It also makes sense considering it seems to be the last weapon you get in your arsenal
The thing a lot of people miss about the fire starter is that when enemies are of fire, they take 1.5x damage so you can chain it with other combos to just flat out do 50% more damage to all enemies. Edit: I was wrongly informed, I apologize for unintentionally spreading misinformation and regard the original post as completely incorrect. Look to the comments on this post to see the real effect. Again, I am sorry for the confusion.
I actually was caught so off guard when i first instakilled gabriel with the jumpstart, i was not expecting Gabriel to just die from a controlled shock
btw, the Bluetooth chainsaw bug thing, works on any enemy. I believe in order to do it the enemy needs to teleport. I haven't been able to do it consistently, but I've only ever gotten it to work on enemies that can teleport.
The Jumpstart electric explosion can bounce off magnets, so if you put 3 Sisiphus with magnets on them and make a single jumpstart explode, they get one shot
For the firestarter I noticed the fire on floor does way more damage than the one on the enemies. I use it for stationary or slow enemies (mainly the insurrectionist), just set them on fire (you don't need to fully oil them) and then shoot some oil at their feet and voila, all dead.
i literally started playing the game less than a week ago, only like 10-15 hrs in the game, and after looking up a guide on how to get the alternate weapons i just naturally found that alt marksman + sawed on main to be the best, it feels great and does good damage... i'm also trying to incorporate the pump jackhammer into my meta as well bc of just how broken it is but it does take some time to learn
fun fact. Hitting the saw with the knuckleblaster causes it to be launched away from you without the cord. It kinda acts like the sharpshooter revolver after that.
1. bluetooth saw isn't limited to a. gabriel and b. one enemy at a time... you can have at least 2 of them at once (it's the most i experienced) 2. the jackhammer core thing... you DO realize that cheats aren't allowed in speedruns, right? no cooldown removes both core and rail cooldowns (even though you CAN get rid of core CD by just swapping) 3. the max speed jackhammer hit puts the jackhammer on cooldown for quite a bit (which you removed by no weapon cooldown). this can't even be circumvented by swapping, it's gonna stay on cooldown
lol yeah the speedrun comment was really goofy of me to say lol but the tech is quite funny regardless and i know the jackhammer has a long cooldown which actually got increased recently slightly which id argue is fair
the firestarter is actually kinda nice. of course it doesn't possess the raw power of the other 2 red guns or the jackhammer but burning enemies all take 150% damage with the exception of the insurrectionist taking 200%. also it's the only thing that can make guttertanks slip from their punch in Brutal. it's definitely meant to be more of a supportive weapon.
You can dodge the conduction damage when using an electric weapon underwater. You have to dodge twice: first, you must have i-frames when the attack initially hits (meaning, unintuitively, that you must dodge slightly *before* firing), and then you must dodge again when the conduction loops back, about 0.7 seconds later.
Funny thing I was testing the update with 0-5 cuz I wanted to see the buffs and it got somehow stucked in the cerberi the projectile was inmortal and stayed just attached to v1 and somehow the chainsaw recharged and it was still glitching. It was pretty hilarious lol
Believe this or not, the blue jackhammer/alt shotgun actually lets you turns a core eject into a hitscan so if you time it correctly: you produce a slightly smaller core nuke with a single weapon (it's hard to do but doesn't cost a whole railcannon)
Time is naught but a circle. When the sawblade launcher first came out it could instantly delete Minos. Now with the last variant of the sawblade launcher. It can now one shot Sisyphus.
The jackhammer can only do that much damage within melee range, which in a chaotic situation can sometimes be difficult. It also has its own cooldown so unless you give up shotgun swapping, you cannot spam it effectively. Personally I think it is in a fine state, although that may just be me not being used to the awkward way it works. Jumpstart being able to one-shot I imagine will get patched out. I would like to see the conductor bonus from nails get a damage buff so the red nailgun could get some more use. I was immediately skeptical when I first saw water conducting electricity in the trailer, since certain fights in 5-1 just get completely skipped. If you hit the virtue directly with the electric railcannon then it also gets instakilled alongside every other enemy in that first fight. Maybe they could limit the distance water can conduct electricity or just outright remove it. I agree with pretty much everything you mentioned about the firestarter. I could see them giving it the same treatment as the SRS cannon by giving it bonuses against specific enemies.
So new patch did end up nerfing the jackhammer, it can no longer one shot sentries by itself (add knuckleblaster and it instakills again) Firestarter's afterburn damage did get a buff but I still don't see it being used for much outside of maybe clearing groups of fodder.
i think a good nerf for alt shotgun would be if it goes on cooldown for one of the variants, all of the other ones also go on cooldown so you can't just keep spamming it
this is how i use jumpstarter in CG step 1: magnets step 2: nails in enemy while you cable it, any nails is okay step 3: right before conductor procs, switch to marksman and throw coins everywhere step 4: after conductor procs, shoot the coins so they dont go to waste lol
dude called the jackhammer too strong even though you lose the shotgun, and you can kill a cerb with a single canonball faster than you ever could with the jackhammer
if you switch to the oil rocket while holding right click it skips the pull out animation and you can shoot while spraying oil, quickswapping with it like that can make it pretty good imo
The way you do Bluetooth chainsaw is by starting on the chainsaw and shotgun swapping all three of your shotguns once close to and at what you want to kill. Then just hold right click
i found a way to stack chainsaws without even moving or punching required, they stuck in your head forever until you interact with them, you can use them as sawblades and the bluetooth chaingun is even funnier
so, funny thing is that you can actually get higher if you just grapple cancel, it'll put you at max velocity which can oneshot a Cerb on green variant it is balanced through lack of punching bullet
I’m not entirely sure on how it works, but sometimes when you’re holding down the saw, and not shooting it as long as you are vaguely looking at an enemy(I’ve seen it happen with Leviathan), or for this instance, Gabriel, it will cause damage to him and heal you. I’ve also noticed a bug where the screen won’t stop shaking, and it will begin deleting parts of an enemies body. So the only part of a Cerberus that I can see is the chest while it’s still alive and currently trying to kill me.
With the shotgun getting stuck to Gabriel, i am a complete ultra kill newbie and after hours of trying to beat him i fired a saw and watched the revelation of my life as his whole health bar depleted. Though I was free it wasn't that satisfying
Glad to see that I wasn’t the only one who thought that this update is great, but it also made some things extremely easier. Hope that Hakita will patch it
to do the sawed one bluetooth you have to be near the enemy and swap the weapon 2 times minimally and at the last one it should be chainsaw and now you can do bluetooth
mind you the rocket launcher is supposed to do extra damage to cerbri fire starter needs like a debuff on enemies that cause them to take extra damage from explosives or general damage
honestly i like the firestarter. i use it in combination with other weapons like sawblades when placing down sawtraps or for big groups of weaker enemies, also the fire makes enemies take more damage i think
The Jumpstart nail gun is much better for crowds since it's discharge does more damage than the alt and it's instant if the target you're plugged into dies, while the alt is great for bosses (even when it doesn't bug it's a lot of burst damage at close-medium range) I find myself equipping both in different levels which just means they're both well balanced to me personally The chainsaw feels meh (if it wasn't bugged to be wireless on bosses) since the 4.5 DPS is feel same as just shotgun swapping but I guess then you can make room for jackhammers (I'm still not good enough at them to use them in real gameplay)
@@linguini645 NGL chainsaw feels not that fun to use for me, disregarding the fact that there's just not many times I wouldn't just shotgun swap, for big enemies there are other burst damage options and for fodder better crowd clearing options (plus trying to run to chainsaw every filth jumping around on brutal is absolute hell) The punching mechanics also feels gimmicky and doesn't do enough damage to justify over many things I think what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't fill any gap in the arsenal or create interesting interaction so I have no real incentive to use it Bluetooth chainsaw is hilarious tho, definitely gonna try abuse to for a brutal P-2 P-rank run Unrelated but Firestarter also breaks lust, gluttony and heresy doors, making clipping the doorframe much easier (easy 2-3 and 3-1 any% times)
i use fire starter (which you dont have to oil up all the way to get started) as a combo starter such as; fire starter, railgun, shotgun chainsaw, which is significant for killing marices fast and killing cerb quickly too, pretty much all stone enemies are dead with that combo already, and an alternitive to railgun after you've used it already, (like on another marice combo) a jackhammer, overpump, or really any other quick or big damage dealers will do just fine
BEFORE YOU COMMENT ABOUT THE FIRESTARTER HAKITA HAS CONFIRMED THAT IT INTENTIONALLY DOES NOT INCREASE DAMAGE DEALT TO ENEMIES OTHER THAN THE FEW THAT ALREADY TOOK BONUS DAMAGE WHILE ON FIRE
as far as I'm aware the jumpstart one shotting sisyphus was actually a bug caused by a mod i have installed, this can't happen in vanilla
it is still however incredibly strong in other ways lol
Linguini put 4 cerberi near and then launch many nails and it will just kill them or even better is put 3 cerberi and then put magnets in them and then shoot alternate fire of jumpstart
You can break 5-3 and 6-1 with oil and doors bug
Fire make enemies take 1.5x damage and guttertanks will slip on gasoline even in brutal i think
I got my chainsaw stuck to Cerbi instead of Gabriel before.
@@_AnCub_ yea it does, and it does 2x damage to insurrectionists
if anybody wants to know, the mod was jaket (an ultrakill multiplayer mod).
i was wondering why this was happening too and i just thought it was so weird…
I managed to repeat 1-shot everything bug with mods
I was just using red sawblade launcher and mods instaledd
i don't really care what they do about the jackhammer, nerf it or not. the design is extremely fun to mess around with and it's kind of like a different sub-playstyle where you go fast as hell at everything you see
i agree that it's cool as fuck even if i don't personally like it over stock shotgun but it definitely needs a little toning back
It might need a little nerfing and i feel the firestarter (red rocket) needs some buffing too. It's a very cool idea and concept but i'm not finding much use for it, even in niche or situational scenarios
Pitbull behavior.
@@Techmobladwhat changes would u like fire starter to have?
@@linguini645i don't agree tbh
Its a trade off for losing shotgun swapping, projectile boosts, and the instant damage
You need to setup for the max power of the jackhammer
You put yourself at a lot of risk to perform the crazy damage.
Wake up babe, jumpstarter is a fucking particle accelerator
Slam down a shit load of magnet onto enemies and watch as the damage stack up
Hakita added the jackhammer because he was tired of hearing people saying they'd smash and pound their characters, hakita absolute genious
the jackhammer is balanced by the loss of utility you would otherwise have with the normal shotgun
still more fun
True
use pump charge jackhammer and normal core eject + sawed on. Now you have access to jackhammer shenanigans AND shotgun swapping
@@digitalizedmind6784 jackhammer movement and swapping is better imo
@@digitalizedmind6784 if you add pressing the "previous variation" keybind to normal shotgun swapping (after you swap forward, swap back) you can shotgun swap with only one default shotgun. DOUBLE JACKHAMMER SHENANIGANS
When the thunder trap does 1.401298E-45 damage
That would be incredibly small, no? Or is this a coding thing?
stack overflow error. It's so far into the negatives that the damage overflows.
@@LillithLilligant that would be underflow, and also what you wrote is not negative just incredibly close to zero
to be completely fair I was dead tired writing that, my mistake. Anyways the bug repeats itself and the damage stacks killing the boss in a few frames.
real
Saying that the railcannon and overpump "don't even come close" in terms of damage when it's like 5% less damage at most feels a little extreme especially since landing that hit puts it on cooldown and you've also lost the utility of having a shotgun in place of the jackhammer
We already have the S.R.S cannon which will effectively oneshot a cerb in the same scenarios a jackhammer will
And don't even get me started on what sawtraps have done to the balancing of this game. If you want to talk broken and overpowered start there
yea and also you get the jackhammer at 7-2 ITS AN ENDGAME WEAPON, well excluding the cyber grind
Dashjump jackhammer cerb + slam jackhammerbounce
there's 3 shotguns in the game now, you can sacrifice one for the jackhammer and retain easy shotgun swapping. besides that i generally agree with you
@@digitalizedmind6784 like i said in the other comment, shotgun swapping with only 2 + a delay between one of the shots is way harder, and using previous/next variation switching is uncomfortable.
@@Net_15 Ive been doing it a bit and i think its only because youre not used to it, plus even if it was "harder" to shotgun swap with 2 the alt is too good to pass up. Also its just a skill issue
jackhammer is fine imo, you have to remember enemies like v2 move around a fuck ton so if you can get off the full overpump WITH the red gauge impact on him i think you deserve it. jumpstart on the other hand is broken as hell bruh
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pro tip, you can give V2 a orbital strike via freezeframe rockets + jackhammer in its first (and maybe) and second fight. just slap a bunch of rockets in the air and push them down onto V2 with the Jackhammer. be careful where you place them tho
Jumpstart however is pure carnage and the fact that it gives you a shitload of style (which is a bug that Hakita did not patch out iirc)
Buuuutt... If you can grapple V2 you can just get a free jackhammer
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I think that Gabriel’s saw glitch is cause by Gabriel’s teleporting, as he also teleports with his own projectile (his spinning swords) and the game gets confused and takes your saw with the swords, like a projectile magnet, since it’s coded to have the projectiles teleport with him.
Fire starter is like supportive gun. Its not made to deal dmg but actually made to make enemies more vulnerable
it didn't break the game, it made the game behave in a way that wasn't expected. there's a difference, trust me.
i know there's a difference but that unfortunately makes a much worse title
i gotta play the game to get the video out there sadly
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@@linguini645the man needs his views
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Also you can now nuke without the railcanon by launching a core with the jackhammer into another core
there is a good alternative to core nuke by just launching core upward, jump and jack hammer below to detonate core to get a smaller jump, then use green jackhammer to overpump and launch yourself in opposite direction of detonation. that way, you save railcannon charge too.
the main thing that balances the jackhammer in my eyes is the fact you get jack shit for healing unless you're using the chainsaw so you're giving up a lot of the utility of the normal shotguns where you just pull them up upclose for heals that along with it having a very commital playstyle having you use the jacky most of the time it gets rewards you for getting close which for the big meta of the game or for cybergrind where I like to play is to not really get close and shoot shit from offstage
That's a bug you can't heal during I frames and the jackhammer at full power gives you them
What makes the Fire Starter NUTS is apparently most enemies set on fire by your oil take 150% extra damage from all other sources! Some enemies like Insurrectionists take 200% extra damage from all other sources while on fire from your oil! I have not seen any one use the Fire Starter to its fullest potential but I bet top runners can make it look broken in time with a enough practice.
I heard from someone that this is bugged and only works on husks as of right now, but when it's fixed it will actually have a use case
Nah this has been a feature for every weapon that can ignite enemies like shotgun cores projectile boosts overheat saws etc. What makes this weapon so much better with fire than others is that the duration of the fire effect with oil is pretty much doubled in comparison to every other weapon
So true, bestie!
They dont take increased damage(except husks), stop spreading this bullshit and check the facts before sharing them ffs, cerberi has 22 hp, they take 5,25 hp from rockets and get set on fire(if they are oiled up). Hitting them w/ pre-nerf alt shotty at high speed should finish them off( 22 - 5,25 - 12*1,5 = 16,75 - 18 = -1,25), but they are alive and have at least 4 hp, increased damage while being on fire is only the husk thing
Sadly this is false, because the official Twitter account for the game doesn’t know how to count.it does 50% more damage, 150% total damage compared to without it.
4:31 is no one talking about this mans Style Meter?
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I love the jackhammer I think it’s a lot of fun and very satisfying. Also you can turn the core eject into a makeshift malicious rail cannon that dose a little less damage but recharges in 2 seconds. It also bounces off of coins, and if you can manage too hit another explosive with it you can make a nuke.
i swear to god.
the jackhammer is a melee range weapon requiring momentum to do damage. forcing u to get close. closer than normal shotty.
if it gets nerfed im gonna scream some things that will make even the painter dude jealous.
well
guess what?
*it got nerfed!*
That doesn't mean anything though because you're in melee range for a fraction of a second before you get launched out of melee range. I'd still say regular shotgun is better for weaker enemies though.
I would like to say that although it has a cooldown, the SRS cannon will do more damage than a max-pump alt-shotgun with less setup.
The alt Shotgun is meant to replace one of the strongest weapon in the game, and having one in your loadout pretty much removes shotgun swapping: it has to be good because making it even a tad bit balanced would have made it useless and harmful to your gameplay.
There's a last variation button you can shotgun swap with two shotguns
@@cockatoo12. the alt shotgun is too slow to be able to shotgun swap with
@@boxmantherandom Just only use one alt tho?
@@boxmantherandom the cooldown on a full charge blast (especially after the nerf) can be negated by it it really helps if you need heavy damage on multiple targets like sentries
The alt shotgun is so satisfying to me, the destruction and speed and sound and the half second time stop
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the alt shotgun has to do more damage because it fires so much slower if you did a dps test with shot gun swapping / projectile boosting I'm sure it would be closer
Fun fact: shotgun swapping is worse than chainsaw unless you are standing completely still
“Creates black hole” whoops that was the wrong button
8:34 I JUST REALIZED THAT THE CORE HAS THE SAME TEXTURE AS RED PROJECTILES
The fire starter do have a use. Dashing while using the oil can keep the sprinting momentum to travel insanely fast
JumpStart nailgun gives nail conductivity & also you CAN switch to the other sawblade launchers, leaving the primary fire as a stronger alternative for close range only, which the JumpStart excels in.
What IS broken, is the udnerwater oil. Underwater oil explodes and each one gives explosion damage separately, meaning you can 2 shot (sandbox) minos prime. Though, dry firestarter is quite bad :(
Can you teach me how to oneshot with jumpstart? i can't understand what to do
I feel the shotgun alt gets heavily less powerful the moment you are in a close arena, it needs a lot of windup space for the speed and also needs a lot of prep in using it.
I do think is powerful but it feels as powerful as placing saw blades and magnets to kill fodder enemies
It also makes sense considering it seems to be the last weapon you get in your arsenal
I got the gabriel saw glitch but instead of permanently sawing gabriel it permanently sawed a dead filth
everyone enjoying the new weapons:
Me and my computer that won't start:
the firestarter has this cool thing where everything in the prelude dies instantly
The firestarter does more under the hood, it buffs your damage and genuinely helps when used in the cybergrind or a heavy arena for example
17:21 I use red rocket as an area denial weapon kinda like saws
Came back to this channel after a while, I love the commentary
The oil is a debuff, it makes the enemy take more damage from other sources
That could change my opinion on it depending on how big the number is
@@digitalizedmind6784 It adds 150% damage on top of whatever your attack already does
Update: according to replies to other comments, this only applies to insurrectionist
It doesnt add 150%, it increases it *to* 150%. Big difference.
@@digitalizedmind6784It applies to all enemies, but the insurrectionist takes 200% damage instead of the normal buff of 150%
The thing a lot of people miss about the fire starter is that when enemies are of fire, they take 1.5x damage so you can chain it with other combos to just flat out do 50% more damage to all enemies.
Edit: I was wrongly informed, I apologize for unintentionally spreading misinformation and regard the original post as completely incorrect. Look to the comments on this post to see the real effect. Again, I am sorry for the confusion.
nope this only applies to specific husk enemies
@@linguini645 oh I apologize I was ill informed. Thanks for letting me know, have a good day!
I actually was caught so off guard when i first instakilled gabriel with the jumpstart, i was not expecting Gabriel to just die from a controlled shock
btw, the Bluetooth chainsaw bug thing, works on any enemy. I believe in order to do it the enemy needs to teleport. I haven't been able to do it consistently, but I've only ever gotten it to work on enemies that can teleport.
The Jumpstart electric explosion can bounce off magnets, so if you put 3 Sisiphus with magnets on them and make a single jumpstart explode, they get one shot
For the firestarter I noticed the fire on floor does way more damage than the one on the enemies. I use it for stationary or slow enemies (mainly the insurrectionist), just set them on fire (you don't need to fully oil them) and then shoot some oil at their feet and voila, all dead.
I could of sworn somewhere that I saw that oilded up buring enemies take increased damage, but you would have to check that
I think you can use the jackhammer on cores which then turn them into hitscan explosive projectiles so that seems fun
You can punch the core with the jackhammer making it hitscan
Hakita:look like we need to fix it
i literally started playing the game less than a week ago, only like 10-15 hrs in the game, and after looking up a guide on how to get the alternate weapons i just naturally found that alt marksman + sawed on main to be the best, it feels great and does good damage... i'm also trying to incorporate the pump jackhammer into my meta as well bc of just how broken it is but it does take some time to learn
he switched between the different alt nailgun variants, at just the right
the chainsaw-gabriel bug also applies to every other enemy
Keep in mind this means the enemies are going to probably become damn near unkillable if the weapons are this good
fun fact. Hitting the saw with the knuckleblaster causes it to be launched away from you without the cord. It kinda acts like the sharpshooter revolver after that.
1. bluetooth saw isn't limited to a. gabriel and b. one enemy at a time... you can have at least 2 of them at once (it's the most i experienced)
2. the jackhammer core thing... you DO realize that cheats aren't allowed in speedruns, right? no cooldown removes both core and rail cooldowns (even though you CAN get rid of core CD by just swapping)
3. the max speed jackhammer hit puts the jackhammer on cooldown for quite a bit (which you removed by no weapon cooldown). this can't even be circumvented by swapping, it's gonna stay on cooldown
lol yeah the speedrun comment was really goofy of me to say lol but the tech is quite funny regardless and i know the jackhammer has a long cooldown which actually got increased recently slightly which id argue is fair
the firestarter is actually kinda nice. of course it doesn't possess the raw power of the other 2 red guns or the jackhammer but burning enemies all take 150% damage with the exception of the insurrectionist taking 200%. also it's the only thing that can make guttertanks slip from their punch in Brutal. it's definitely meant to be more of a supportive weapon.
You can dodge the conduction damage when using an electric weapon underwater. You have to dodge twice: first, you must have i-frames when the attack initially hits (meaning, unintuitively, that you must dodge slightly *before* firing), and then you must dodge again when the conduction loops back, about 0.7 seconds later.
Funny thing I was testing the update with 0-5 cuz I wanted to see the buffs and it got somehow stucked in the cerberi the projectile was inmortal and stayed just attached to v1 and somehow the chainsaw recharged and it was still glitching. It was pretty hilarious lol
From now on im calling the jumpstarter "the electric chair
Believe this or not, the blue jackhammer/alt shotgun actually lets you turns a core eject into a hitscan so if you time it correctly: you produce a slightly smaller core nuke with a single weapon (it's hard to do but doesn't cost a whole railcannon)
The knockback of the jackhammer reminds me of bokoblin shield bounce from botw
Time is naught but a circle. When the sawblade launcher first came out it could instantly delete Minos.
Now with the last variant of the sawblade launcher. It can now one shot Sisyphus.
The jackhammer can only do that much damage within melee range, which in a chaotic situation can sometimes be difficult. It also has its own cooldown so unless you give up shotgun swapping, you cannot spam it effectively. Personally I think it is in a fine state, although that may just be me not being used to the awkward way it works.
Jumpstart being able to one-shot I imagine will get patched out. I would like to see the conductor bonus from nails get a damage buff so the red nailgun could get some more use.
I was immediately skeptical when I first saw water conducting electricity in the trailer, since certain fights in 5-1 just get completely skipped. If you hit the virtue directly with the electric railcannon then it also gets instakilled alongside every other enemy in that first fight. Maybe they could limit the distance water can conduct electricity or just outright remove it.
I agree with pretty much everything you mentioned about the firestarter. I could see them giving it the same treatment as the SRS cannon by giving it bonuses against specific enemies.
The conductor bonus does a absolute ton of damage already? With green nail you can make it one shot swordsmachines with the arcs
@daktotathecolossus7404 Ok yeah I'm dumb, you are absolutely right.
So new patch did end up nerfing the jackhammer, it can no longer one shot sentries by itself (add knuckleblaster and it instakills again)
Firestarter's afterburn damage did get a buff but I still don't see it being used for much outside of maybe clearing groups of fodder.
i think a good nerf for alt shotgun would be if it goes on cooldown for one of the variants, all of the other ones also go on cooldown
so you can't just keep spamming it
When enemies are on fire all of your attacks do 50% more damage
Hakita really made a pogo stick the weapon with the highest DPS, huh?
Enemies on fire from firestarter take 150% more damage
this is not true and has been confirmed intentionally not true by hakita
only insurrectionists have this feature
They take 50% more, not 150% more
@@linguini645Enemies take 50% more damage, insurrectionists take 100% more damage
I heard it was husks take 150% damage and insurrects take 200%
@@daktotathecolossus7404 "150% damage and 200% damage" is the same thing as "50% more damage and 100% more damage"
this is how i use jumpstarter in CG
step 1: magnets
step 2: nails in enemy while you cable it, any nails is okay
step 3: right before conductor procs, switch to marksman and throw coins everywhere
step 4: after conductor procs, shoot the coins so they dont go to waste lol
The bug with chainsaw also work on swordmachines and cerberi
dude called the jackhammer too strong even though you lose the shotgun, and you can kill a cerb with a single canonball faster than you ever could with the jackhammer
if you switch to the oil rocket while holding right click it skips the pull out animation and you can shoot while spraying oil, quickswapping with it like that can make it pretty good imo
considering hakita's history with fun bugs, this might not be patched.
@@Rustylorde it 100% won't be, although I still think fire should do more damage if you have oil on an enemy
The way you do Bluetooth chainsaw is by starting on the chainsaw and shotgun swapping all three of your shotguns once close to and at what you want to kill. Then just hold right click
Was messing around with the Sawed-On and the Minotaur, shot the chainsaw at the Minotaur, and it got stuck inside him.
i found a way to stack chainsaws without even moving or punching required, they stuck in your head forever until you interact with them, you can use them as sawblades and the bluetooth chaingun is even funnier
so, funny thing is that you can actually get higher if you just grapple cancel, it'll put you at max velocity which can oneshot a Cerb on green variant
it is balanced through lack of punching bullet
I’m not entirely sure on how it works, but sometimes when you’re holding down the saw, and not shooting it as long as you are vaguely looking at an enemy(I’ve seen it happen with Leviathan), or for this instance, Gabriel, it will cause damage to him and heal you.
I’ve also noticed a bug where the screen won’t stop shaking, and it will begin deleting parts of an enemies body. So the only part of a Cerberus that I can see is the chest while it’s still alive and currently trying to kill me.
Oh boy, you'll have something to tell your kids in the future.
With the shotgun getting stuck to Gabriel, i am a complete ultra kill newbie and after hours of trying to beat him i fired a saw and watched the revelation of my life as his whole health bar depleted. Though I was free it wasn't that satisfying
"Reversed Mayo%" 😭💀
Glad to see that I wasn’t the only one who thought that this update is great, but it also made some things extremely easier. Hope that Hakita will patch it
take a shot every time he says “frankly”
"Babe wake up, new way to beat minos prime in 5 seconds released"
is it balanced? not really
is it fun? YES
it's insane how much sisyphus got buffed tho
"this cerberus were gonna oil up" ayo???
"so, nerf jumpstarter??"
hakita: negative yes
I do have a question. Will there ever be alternates for the rocket launcher and railcannon?
Why are you asking this guy? Ask hakita.
Probably not since this update was advertised as the update that completes V1's arsenal
hakita said there won't be, as well as no future for gold variants aside from yellow arm
the firestarter if used on flesh prison or panopticon when they first spawn their eyes will set all of the eyes on fire
Enemies take 1.5x damage when burning,u r not supposed to wait and see
taking a shot every time this guy says frankly
14:13 fun fact, if you shoot the virtue, EVERYTHING dies
Last I checked, that is.
to do the sawed one bluetooth you have to be near the enemy and swap the weapon 2 times minimally and at the last one it should be chainsaw and now you can do bluetooth
mind you the rocket launcher is supposed to do extra damage to cerbri
fire starter needs like a debuff on enemies that cause them to take extra damage from explosives or general damage
0:56 + Fuck You is crazy ☠️
Just something to point out, fire starter isn’t meant to do damage itself, it buffs your other damage sources
it doesnt do this hakita has confirmed that to be intentional, tbh so many people have said this i have no idea why so many people think its true lol
3:12 how did you do that? Like killing a bunch od enemies
honestly i like the firestarter. i use it in combination with other weapons like sawblades when placing down sawtraps or for big groups of weaker enemies, also the fire makes enemies take more damage i think
Anti filth weapon
the fire doesn't increase damage dealt to enemies that is exclusively an insurrectionist thing. hakita has confirmed this to be intentional
yeah
@@linguini645 thank you my lord linguini, i shall not make such a silly error again. (still setting them on fire is funny i probably have a problem)
14:12 if you point the railgun at the virtue it does the ‘main’ damage to it.
(I found this out trying to be good at that level I hate
1-4 speedruns bouta get crazy
those cerberi were PISSED. you should be glad they were all blind
Can someone tell me whats the name of that funny mod that makes the style texts like "+STAY MAD"
"it takes a significant amount of time oiling them up" 16:59
Yeah i bet it does 😏
this guys just "daily dose of ultrakill"
When it comes to the jack hammer I think the high damage is fine because it requires movement to do said high damage
What's the mod that changes the style bonuses?
The Jumpstart nail gun is much better for crowds since it's discharge does more damage than the alt and it's instant if the target you're plugged into dies, while the alt is great for bosses (even when it doesn't bug it's a lot of burst damage at close-medium range)
I find myself equipping both in different levels which just means they're both well balanced to me personally
The chainsaw feels meh (if it wasn't bugged to be wireless on bosses) since the 4.5 DPS is feel same as just shotgun swapping but I guess then you can make room for jackhammers (I'm still not good enough at them to use them in real gameplay)
the chainsaw is pretty balanced overall imo, solid like B tier weapon in terms of usefulness
absolutely incredible to use tho S tier in terms of fun
@@linguini645 NGL chainsaw feels not that fun to use for me, disregarding the fact that there's just not many times I wouldn't just shotgun swap, for big enemies there are other burst damage options and for fodder better crowd clearing options (plus trying to run to chainsaw every filth jumping around on brutal is absolute hell)
The punching mechanics also feels gimmicky and doesn't do enough damage to justify over many things
I think what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't fill any gap in the arsenal or create interesting interaction so I have no real incentive to use it
Bluetooth chainsaw is hilarious tho, definitely gonna try abuse to for a brutal P-2 P-rank run
Unrelated but Firestarter also breaks lust, gluttony and heresy doors, making clipping the doorframe much easier (easy 2-3 and 3-1 any% times)
i use fire starter (which you dont have to oil up all the way to get started) as a combo starter such as; fire starter, railgun, shotgun chainsaw, which is significant for killing marices fast and killing cerb quickly too, pretty much all stone enemies are dead with that combo already, and an alternitive to railgun after you've used it already, (like on another marice combo) a jackhammer, overpump, or really any other quick or big damage dealers will do just fine