IMPORTANT UPDATE!!!! President Abinader listened to the uproar of the people and killed the tax reform bill! He removed it from Congress, to the surprise of everyone!
You’re absolutely right. I come several times a year and follow the news. When Dominican hospitals fill with Haitians it is the DR poor who suffer. The Haitians don’t pay, they can’t but the Dominicans are left holding the bag
We Dominicans don’t want to keep getting our taxes raised to pay for Hatian ladies giving birth in DR totally free. It’s an insane burden, all while we have no room in our hospitals for our own citizens. Our public schools are also overwhelmed. The Hatian government needs to stop neglecting its citizens and expect another poor developing nation to pay for them. This is not being racist.
Not only they are giving birth, but that they are staying in the DR to live for good and putting their children in the DR educational system and guess who is paying for all of this???? Yes, Dominicans tax payers.
Same goes to the dominicans in Madrid, Spain. We’re tired of your government neglecting its citizen and expecting Spain to pay for them, specially when they bring their ignorant culture, music and gang activities such as LK or DDP. This is not being racist
Americans also say that about illegals consuming social services in the USA. However, in DR dominicans (public hospital doctors, military border personnel, transporters, and immigration workers) are also part of the problem. Haitians also fund illegal crossings that NGOs supports and promotes. Everyone is in on the fix for a profit.
@@davidr9482 Another problem is the fact that most dominicans with health insurance and common sense do not use public hospital unless is an emergency and there are not any private ones around. If haitians do not use public hospitals in some areas of DR, those would be closed in less than a year due to lack of use.
That just goes to show how bad our migration systems are functioning: there no control at the border in order to know how many are coming in our going out 😣
How would anybody know when the majority are undocumented. I think that there are certain locations where there are many Haitians and then people interpret it as a representation of the whole country. I think that part of the problem is companies using Haitians as cheap labour whether they are in the country legally or not, JMHO. The Haitians have it bad enough in their country so, the last thing I want to see is hostility towards them in the Dominican Republic.
@PurelyWalking there are videos of one of the main boarder gates being left open at night so they can easily get in......the government is aware and is doing nothing! This is all a plan in full force going on!!
@@isbe8810there are over 4million! They are in every province and creating havoc all over the island....including deforestation and consuming some of our protected species!!!
I literally stumbled on your channel. Great information, so I subscribed. POV: With all the taxes being proposed in Dominican Republic they must of taken a few pages from Canada and US. Can't wait for the update on this especially where investment is concerned!
I really appreciate this video. My issue is the deportation of people born in the Dominican Republic to a country where they have never been, let alone lived. It is not their language, culture or home. I have no issue with strong border control or deporting people who illegally crossed the border into the Dominican Republic. Thanks as always. I enjoy your videos.
Tax proposals are always aggressive in the DR. Once proposals are introduced, eveything gets negotiated to a reasonable amount. That means that you will pay more, but not as much as what made you scared.
I only tell you thank you excellent so people that don't understand this problem they can understand in English this big problem in D.R.i going to follow this channel right now
I love your adjustment to the motorcycles. You're lucky you're not in my parent's house in the Campo. You wouldn't go past your introduction. Good video!
Que bueno que ha tratado este tema del la reforma constitucional, yo considers que aunque es necesaria primero deberia buscarse la solucion en las evasiones y la informalidad, saludos desde newyork
You should make a video regarding the 200-dollar online purchase limit. Many people buy online thinking they are just paying 18% ITBIS at the DR Customs, yet they are shocked to see the crazy tariffs they are being charged.
To anyone out there that has the ignorant view that we were part of haiti and we decided to separate from them: first of all way before what would become haiti came to be, we were already there. So instead of saying that we separated from them, what should be said is that after numerous invasions we decided to kick the invaders out.
What are you talking about there is like 6 family that rule in this country and everyone else just serve their interest, we dont have the same def. Of democracy.
@@Matthew.33. Very true. But, I there are about 10 families that have been able to preserve their elite status for over 60 years since the death of Trujillo. You can also say that about other latin american countries. The difference is that dominicans do not hate each other like the Colombians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians, Hondurans, Guatemalan etc.
Totally agree with you on the Haitian situation; and no it’s not because they are black why they are being deported. On the new proposed taxes I believe the government is doing the right thing. The country can grow and develop by way of huge investments from business within or external. If the government needs to get money to develop better infrastructures, it can only do so by borrowing money from the IMF, the World Bank and there are also other ways. It can also raise money through taxes, the safest ways. You guys don’t want to keep getting entangled with the IMF o the World Bank. My two cents. Great video.👍
The government can easily save money by running things efficiently; here traditionally the government is used go give jobs to partisans. Have you ever been to any government office and see office clerks who's only job appears to be to clip forms together? Just go to the passport office and you will see them; and by the way, these are forms for matters that could be easily automated but then you will have to fire half the department and we can't have that. Our governments have been running in deficit for years, which is covered by printing money and that is why the the value of the peso today is half what it was in 2004. That is not sustainable. Why do we even have a deal with the IMF, since the last time we needed them was in 2004? The only reason is to have them as an excuse to raise taxes ("it's not us, is the FMI asking us to"); so we don't rule our country, the IMF and the World Bank do? I said it in another comment and I repeat it again: 45% of voters did not participate in the last election and I'm pretty sure that among those who voted for Abinader, Leonel and the other guy there were people who were disaffected with them but just hated the other guy more. So you could easily have 51% or more of the voters support a charismatic demagogue in the future and we can lose what little we have if we keep up with this nonsense.
I think this is the best explanation I’ve heard of the current border situation to a foreign audience. Very simple, complete, and to the point. The tax reform is straight up abus1ve given the astronomically high spending and borrowing of the government without being reflected into the quality of life of the population. I hope the protests are worth for them to at least rethink this. It will hurt foreign investment, too!
Do not forget that children born from a Dominican and Haitian is still considered Haitian. I just have a question based on the logic applied to Haitian. If it is believed that all Haitians are Haitians no matter where they are born or who they mix with, why doesn't that apply to Dominicans? Also, since Dominicans are a mix of African, Spanish, and Taino; shouldn't that mean no Dominicans should be allowed to live in the Dominican Republic? Or, does that rule only apply when they want it to? That logic doesn't work, does it? 😅
@@AscendedSaiyan3 your statement is wrong on many points: 1. A son or daughter of a Dominican person (be it the mother OR father) is deemed Dominican acording to our dominican constitution (article 18). 2. The fact that Dominicans como from mixed in RACE origins has nothing to do with Nationality. Race does not equal nationality.
One of the reasons the country is proposing a tax reform is to increase it S&P credit rating from non-investment grade to Investment grade which makes the country look less risky for international investors
Dominicans have the same immigration problem that he the US has and other European countries also have, and that is the economic progress attracts poverty strickened people.
Not really we are a poor country, 3+ millions illegals (without paperwork even in their country more than 60%)it's a lot so they accuse the country of being racist and wanting without reason that our country provide them with legal documentations.
Good job very well documented. My opinion about the migration and Dominicans complaining that there's no job. Well this is the chance to start looking for jobs, you better take those empty spots left by the deportation before the Haitians come back and take those jobs again. If 10 thousands Haitians get deported every week there should be at least 6 to 7 thousand new jobs available every week. I hope the young Dominicans that spend the day in the corner wasting their life can do something productive for the country.
We gained Independance from our colonizers, Spain, in 1821. We expelled a Haitin invasion of our territory in 1844. My personal opinion is that Haiti was a French historical mistake on our island of Santo Domingo at the end of the 17th century.
We were never a colony 🤦🏾♂️ we were part of spain a viceroyalty our independence from spain was based on economics we didn’t want to pay more taxes to the crown .
@@tregua24 there was a minor revolt in 1821 which resulted in another of several Haitian invasions. Haiti has invaded the Dominican Republic multiple times, including in 1801, 1805, 1822, and 1859 . Haiti was always the aggressor against legitimate settlements of Spanish people. Independence was won from Haiti, surely you know that.
@@tregua24 they ruled with fear, brutality and rape for far too long. I understand your point; Haiti has never been a functioning country let alone a power. But, still it is what Dominican Independence Day is about.
You are killing me Ma’am. First of all, you didn’t walk anywhere so I didn’t get to see anything new in the DR. Well, I guess I’m seeing your place for the first time. Nice couch, walls bare as hell. Second, the tax proposals are destroying my dreams of enjoying a villa in Vista Cana. The Confotur Law and property tax exemption made this buy a no brainer for me. Not to mention the anticipated problems with the labor force. The idiots in FL tried that and fell flat on their faces. Construction sites were a ghost town. My next text will be to my lawyer to find out how much I will lose if I cancel the purchase. Thanks a lot for ruining my Sunday Elly.
Good news! The tax bill was withdrawn from Congress about a week after making this video! We can expect a new bill to be submitted soon, but with plenty of changes. Maybe Confotur stays after all!
The DR is becoming like the US now that they are upgrading. The new taxes are going to come as the DR Moves up further modernize. It enevetable. Great channel ! I just subscribed
So much for moving to the Dominican Republic. Why do you pay taxes on cars each year when you paid for the cars with your own money? That sounds ridiculous!
@@dgo9121That doesn’t make sense because if the car is older than 5 years you pay less. In fact it’s half. The Dominicans will look for cars that are older than 5 years therefore, new car sales will go down. Everything will hurt the low income people many of whom are just getting by as it is. What are the big hotel chains paying in tax?
@@dgo9121 VA is a state not a country and require a yearly inspection for the car. it makes sense for VA and the environment even though most American's do not agree. Do you really believe the average Dominican will replace their cars because this of law?
@@wysemanacc84 I'm fully aware of VA being a state, just making an example. The strategy of getting people to buy newer cars by imposing higher taxes on older cars is practiced in many islands.
The tax on tourism industry should be raised some ,to reduce tax on dominican people. Property tax should look at what hotels pay first. I'm a tourist, don't see much trickle down to ordinary people. Also the pay rate in hotels should reflect the hours worjed.
Nosotros veremos las consecuencias. No es divertido cuando el conejo tiene el arma. Para mejorar un país se necesitan tres cosas: 1. Un ejército fuerte. 2. Un recurso natural que se pueda exportar. 3. Y gente a la que se pueda explotar para obtener ganancias. Es la historia de todos los países poderosos. Lamentablemente, esto es cierto.
The tax reform was aimed to sound harsh at the beginning so as to creat a debate and end up with a reasonable one. So brace yourself as it will be a rough and easy ride intermittently.
What’s happening in the Dominican Republic is the American influence The social programs are growing and it is becoming a welfare state. Remember the Dominican Republic is only 1/2 of an island the other half is the poorest nation in the western hemisphere. Therefore Dominican Republic is too small to sustain all the social programs it has created for itself. This small 1/2 of an island simply cannot afford it.
Very true, the DR is being pressured very hard by US, Canada, France, GB, globalists and the UN to open their borders to Haiti and thus destroy their country in the name of "fairness", "anti-racism" and "virtue". These same forces seek to flatten all the world economies/societies and create a one world government.
Just to clarify something, the Dominican Republic still occupies 2/3 of the island of Santo Domingo and until 1937 it was 3/4 that's when the so-called "international court" at the Hague decided to give them 2,000 square of our territory because most of the residents there were haitian nationals.
I'm sorry, but taxes are the price of progress. If only we could get an honest accountability system so politicians don't steal it and everyone pay their fair share we can build a strong developed nation. I see the country trending in the right direction and am willing to pay my share. In the US I pay around 35% income tax, plus 8-9 % on most purchases, plus some additional state, city and local taxes, and have a huge urban housing crisis with crazy rent, property tax and insurance bill and mortgage payments, so we can do it, but we have to face the challenge because we have to pay if we want to develop and not live in poverty forever like our neighbors. So my belief is we should focus on demanding stronger protection of the treasure instead of opposing the unavoidable taxes.
@@ClaudioJimenez-wr6ix But, shouldn’t that system benefit Dominicans who pay into it. Uncontrolled migration will hit the DR with a debt it can’t service. Look what is happening in Europe. Austria may soon be another Hungary, driven there be immigration and the UK is cutting winter fuel payments to the elderly with migrants in hotels for nothing. Yes, taxes are a consequence of growth but it is proper and wise to be cautious. Haiti could collapse the DR and its democracy
There is no need to pay taxes if the government cuts unnecessary spending and useless institution and that include the amount of money a congress men ,council , judge and senator get pays that include the president .
@@rogeramezquita5685 I guess that would be awesome yet improbable. But even if we shrink the payroll to a realistic number, the savings would amount to a fraction of the money needed for the economic expansion the country is experiencing. I know it’s frustrating to pay those ridiculous salaries, but I reckon there’s absolutely nothing we can do about it, so I focus on what we can do
@@dhunsi1340 In my view, you are 100% correct! Being realistic, I'm not sure the gov. will fully bring the immigration plan to fruition (if it's more than a smoke screen), but if it does, the employers will have to replace migrant with native labor which is highly qualified but refuses to work for the exploitative rates migrants do. Remember, foreign labor in agriculture, construction and other activities is a fairly recent trend as they used to be mainly employed in the sugar cane business. If Dominicans get paid decently, I guarantee you their return to the job, thus additional tax revenue. This would reduce the increase needed in the proposed fiscal reform. The people need not politicize their demands. This is bigger than party affiliation.
I am Dominican, live in Europe(far away from Spain btw) and have been a proud homeowner for many years and I pay land taxes. I understand the concerns of our people, but as someone who has lived most of his life outside the country, I can see where this is going. Taxes are unfortunately a necessary evil that helps reimburse any benefits people receive in the future. It depends on how the government uses this money, but in general all developed countries do this to fund their welfare system. We can argue that people don't earn enough or that the social system doesn't exist in the DR. But if we never start, we will never reach the level of developed countries and we will continue to live in the past just because it benefits “ME” as a person the way things are today.
You said it well, those taxes translate into collective well-being and as a Dominican you should know that here there is no problem solved, neither electricity nor water nor citizen security nor justice nor education nor health nor a prepared police force nor the issue of immigration left unsolved the poorest people And do they also want to tax businesses? Yes, with that, people have survived since the pandemic here by selling on Shein, Amazon or with a UA-cam channel and they also want to tax that and the officials, since they reach political office, become mega millionaires in the face of everyone, because that is not possible, talk to me about reform when you resolve those abuses and those thefts in the government first.
It will be good and all if that money was not going to corrupt politicians and to pay for all the illegal Haitians using free services in the schools and hospitals, including free utilities, and other services. Illigals pay no taxes! Not fair for Dominicans to continue paying and not receiving back what they pay into!!
Sorry I was using the wrong account and didn't realize it so I'm using my account instead. I am actually half Chinese and half Dominican, but as I said I have lived most of my life outside the country and live in a well established European country with very solid social welfare. I cannot fully understand the situation, as I have lived most of my life outside the country, but what you say makes a lot of sense and I know the precariousness of our country, which despite being a growing economy, still has a lot of social issues. Btw I can speak spanish but decided to reply in english since is a english centered channel. Good job btw.
Starting a welfare state in the DR, especially now when it's growing a middle class and doing relatively well, would be suicidal for the nation. Government should be limited to 4 functions: 1. It should provide for military defense and border controls of the nation. 2. It should enforce contracts between individuals. 3. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. 4. To define the rules of "the game we play" i.e. society and norms, epecially legal ones. The DR cannot even provide these prerequisites anywhere nearly satisfactorily and now some people want to institute massive taxation and a welfare state? It would be an unmitigated disaster despite what you might see as a common good in "developed countries". It would destroy the burgeoning middle class in the DR; it would cause the young, talented and productive people who are currently making a good living to flee the country; it would result in even more money taken from the Dominican workers and handed to unworthy citizens and Haitians/illegals (as has happened in my country); it would see a massive increase in drugs and illegal activity because those avenues would be even more profitable as they don't pay ANY taxes and un sin numero de otros problemas which would be devastating. It would turn the DR into Cuba, Venezuela or Mexico. Let's get the basics covered before ANY talk of a welfare state (more than already exists in the DR)...
@@scottleckie3148 I NEVER said that the government should set up a welfare state, I pointed out that all developed countries use taxes to fund their welfare system. What I said was that we should start somewhere to one day reach the level of developed countries. However, we still have a long way to go.
I think the Dominican Republic should avoid foreign extremist politics no matter if they are Far Left or the Far Right Trumper-type nonsense. Dominicans should learn from the best-performing nations ABOVE the United States and understand different political and economic systems and if some of these policies can be applied to the Dominican Republic. Climate Change and other scientific matters should not be a political issue in a way that conspiracies are spread instead of reality. Higher taxes are not always "bad" if you have the right conditions. For example, if certain taxes are applied to give the middle class and poor Dominicans better social services, this can be a major advantage. Also, stronger labor laws and more jobs including more technologically advanced jobs for Dominicans will help progress the Dominican Republic. Less corruption and more transparency can help the standard of living rise for more Dominicans along with the GDP.
EXACTLY BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE CORRUPT DO, THEY MAKE A CIRCUS TO COVER ANOTHER CIRCUS WITH THEIR SUPPOSED INDEPENDENT JIDICIAL SYSTEM IN THE END ALL THE PRISONERS END UP RETURNING A PART OF WHAT THEY STOLEN AND STILL IN THEIR HOMES ENJOYING THE TAXES OF THE ASSHOLE DOMINICAN PEOPLE IN THE END EVERYTHING IT IS FOR THEM AND FOR FOREIGNERS THAT EVEN IF IT IS DIFFICULT TO ASSIMILATE IT HAS PRIORITY. THEY ARE SPECIAL CITIZENS AND THAT IS WHAT IS BOTHERING HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT DOES NOT CARE FOR ANY INTEREST OF THE DOMINICAN. HE SAYS ONE THING IN THEIR SPEECHES BUT THE REALITY IS VERY DIFFERENT, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY LIKE THE ONE YOU SAY BUT THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR NOW BECAUSE "Los bomberos no se pisan la manguera " AS THEY SAID HERE
Thanks, that's an interesting video and you cover many things, but I will just comment on the following: 1-Haitian women using our hospitals: I agree that it’s a problem when a large part of our health budget goes to treating Haitian mothers here illegally. However, this is an issue for border police, not hospitals. I keep asking: How do pregnant women, often in labor, manage to travel hundreds of kilometers from the border to hospitals in Santo Domingo or Santiago? Why doesn’t anyone in the press ask the president that during his Monday briefings? Once these women arrive at our hospitals, by law, they must be treated (as it should be). Doctors and nurses are there to care for patients, not to act as immigration officers. If we don't address the problem at the source-the border-we’re wasting our time. 2-Haitian students in our schools: This issue isn’t as simple as described. Yes, there are around 174,000 Haitian kids in our schools, but their parents work here and pay taxes (ITBIS, soon to be VAT). There are also reports that Dominican families try to enroll their children in better public schools outside their designated areas. I can’t say how accurate that is because, as usual, our journalists focus on the headlines and don’t do investigative work. While this is a problem, if it’s immigration-related, please refer to my earlier point. Teachers and principals aren’t immigration enforcers, and by law, everyone in the country (not just citizens) is entitled to an education. 3-Fiscal reform: The tax reform highlights the deficiencies in our democracy. The government has a spending problem, largely because it’s used by the ruling party to create jobs for their supporters. We have one of the largest governments in Latin America by population percentage. While we’ve made progress, we’re not a developed country, and we should have a more efficient government. Look at the 4% of GDP spent on education-it’s a significant amount, yet our students remain the worst in the region. The same inefficiency exists across all sectors. Instead of fixing this, the government wants more money from us. That mindset is dangerous, and it's why 45% of voters didn’t bother in the last election. If we don’t stand up to Abinader and his cronies, we risk ending up with a Dominican version of Fidel Castro or Hugo Chávez, losing what we have for generations.
You bring up some excellent points. The Dominican Republic needs to reduce its government. Smaller government with a strong focus on improving efficiency across the board is the only way the country is going to advance. Public spending needs to be more frugal. More money is not necessarily always the solution, sometimes you just need to fix and tweak what you already have. Furthermore, why doesn’t the government go after those companies and corporations that evade millions of dollars in taxes every year instead of squeezing more money out of the population? Many families are already struggling as it is, thus paying more taxes is something that’s not going to favor them, it’s only gonna add more stress to people’s already cumbersome financial situation.
You raise some good points. IMO, however: #1. true, the law dictates they must be treated. The problem are the corrupt police, politicians and military that run Haitians back and forth over the border all while being paid by the same and betraying their own people and the Dominican Rep. #2. the illegal Haitians do not pay much or any taxes as most work for cash. #3. Yes, if this continues the DR will end up like Cuba or Venezuela. Thanks for your insights.
Taxwise, this is not going to encourage investing in Dominican Republic! As for immigration towards Haitians, it is understandable to a certain point. I have heard that lots of them who are legally in the country are being pick up in the streets to be driven and expelled to Haiti and that is totally wrong. Lots of these people have been working hard in the Dominican fields, construction, hottellerie and so on. If they are legal they shouldn't be expelled. They have contribuated to the development of the country since many years. Also, lots of corruption in the DR. I am not Haitian but all of this doesn't encourage one to invest in DR...after all this could happen to anyone that comes in your country and invest no matter where they are for!
As a Dominican I am going to clarify several points for you. First, those supposedly legal Haitians are not deported unless they first go through an immigration process to verify their immigration status. Does it make sense to you that you are a foreigner and walk around without documents knowing that they are being deported? Many of those arrested do not have a birth certificate or a certificate of live birth from a hospital, many come running from the Haitian justice system and here it is not known if they are a criminal or belong to one of those criminal gangs. second DOMINICAN REPUBLIC was built by generations and generations of Dominicans until the beginning of 2000, everyone in the construction was DOMINICAN. 90% of the Haitians were in the bateys or in the few mills that remain in the country because they were not even in the agricultural area and It has been a systematic process of removing Dominican labor from these mostly foreign companies that invest their capital here because of how easy it is for them to evade taxes and pay corrupt government officials, which is why they were removing Dominicans from all those areas. hotels, those large multinationals are not DOMINICAN, that is why they have sold the country and are the main promoters of illegal immigration to pay them less and not give Haitians rights or health or anything, but rather the same complicit state takes charge with the taxes of DOMINICAN assholes so don't give your opinion on a topic you don't know!!!! Here we Dominicans cannot enroll our children in public schools, much less use the health system because they give priority to Haitians, so don't come and say that we depend on Haitians because the reality is that many Dominicans are unemployed and only Businessmen and politicians are the ones who benefit from that, I hope it is clear to you.
I totally agree with you but this is what they want to do and I think they are basing all of their problems on immigration issues. The corruption is the biggest issue but nobody wants to face that elephant. This is why I never wanted to invest there since they can wake up one day and change laws and taxes. I am pretty sure once these new taxes get thru congress and approve you will start seeing many proprieties/businesses for sale with this global recession right around the corner.
DR is gona be own by the us , little by little 😂 she said it has to pass to congress , DR is a independent country why is it going to congress ? Your government is selling DR to the US 🇺🇸😂😂😂😂
@@neliathen638 No, they should give birth in Haiti and never in the DR. Dominicans women dont go to Haiti till give birth because its not their country. Haitians women are the real threat to all Dominican hospitals by invading us and taking advantage of the free system.
All countries should protect their own borders and enforce their immigration laws. A country is not a country without borders and which doesn't enforce it's own laws. And no other country should meddle in how sovereign nations enforce their laws. Their citizens voted for this. It's their own business! I hope those Dominicans that live in the USA that are for DR enforcing their own immigration laws and protecting their own borders don't complain when the US does the same. I can't stand when people say the USA has plenty of land to allow anybody that wants to come here be allowed to come without going through the immigration system. The same crap that's going on in the DR is happening here.
@@PurelyWalking A typical argument is that the USA is a land of immigrants and it should allow anyone that feels like coming here should be allowed to do so. Americans won all those battles in the past to have a sovereign nation. It stops being the USA once it allows people to just cross the border without having to abide by immigration laws. It turns into a mess.
Here is the biggest problem guys, the magic question how are the Haitians returning into DR after having been deported back to Haiti,,,, if millions of Haitian are being deported and millions are returning through border,, then someone is making a lot of money giving the Haitians back access to the country illegally knowing at some point they'll get caught and face deportation once more,,, the other question is what national authority is illegally smuggling these Haitians back into DR ? It seems like a pond, making money smuggling Haitians and adding onto current border problem,,, to get that border in order everyone have to be on the same page,, if the big 🤔 dominican authorities close to the borders are allow smuggling of Haitians into DR then reoccurring issues as it has been for years and centuries
I´d like to at to this interesting debate starting with minute 2:28, that the video discusses "Jus Soli" in the Dominican Republic, emphasizing key historical and legal changes. However, "Jus Soli" was the constitutional law from 1929 until 2010, when reforms targeted against current Haitian immigrants, who were living here largely due to U.S.-initiated sugar cane labor between 1916 to 1924. Institutionally, the major legal shift began with Law No. 285-04, redefining "in transit" to exclude Haitian workers, followed by the 2010 constitutional reform and the highly controversial 2013 ruling (Sentencia No. TC/0168/13), which retroactively stripped Dominican nationality from those born between 1929 and 2007. These legal changes disproportionately affected Haitians, highlighting a targeted effort to expel this immigrant group from the country.
As much as I love your content, it also worries me a bit that you are posting a supposed protest against haitin immigrants, more specifically by a group called "La Antigua Orden" which I do not believe represents any reasonable dominican sentiment or patriotism in any way. I´m sorry to disagree in this topic, but I think it´s important that outsiders comprehend this reality as it can be very confusing and risky.
I havent looked at the background of "La Antigua Orden" but the protest was a real occurrence, not a supposed one. Also, I DO think most Dominicans DO feel that ilegal migration is out of control
@@PurelyWalking sorry if I confused with the word ´supposed´. When I said it was a supposed protest, it´s in the sense that it had a supposedly fair and legitimate claim, when actually, it does not. This is a fanatics group that has been dedicated over 10 years to blowing things out of proportion and only rally people on confusion, fake news, misrepresentation, false claims, violence and outright xenofobia. Even if the illegal immigration issue is to some degree out of control, it´s not to the level they try to portray it (mainly agains Haitians and not corruption and lack of professionalism on our end). They also narrate it as some sort of threat to our economical balance or democracy feeding into fear and panic. This is dangerous and risky. Please, if you would like to have objective information on the matter, I invite you to draw your information from verified and legitimate sources. Much Love!.
@@PurelyWalking They are a patriotic group of young people that have every right to fight for our sovereignty and identity as a country. They of course don't believe that Dominicans have a right to fight against the overwhelming illigal immigration from that side. They should be more concerned about the gang violence and non existent government in Haiti and not spend so much time hating on 🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴
@Flexed_qt is Haiti running immigration control in DR? No, is Haiti running the DGN in DR? No, is Haiti running the Dominican sanitary facilities? No, is Haiti running the JCE to sell documents to Haitians, Venezuelans, some narcos from Europe? No! Is Haiti running the migratory traffic in DR? No! Is Haiti the top one country running the most biggest drug factory in latam? No! Is Haiti running the drugs businesses in all DR prisons? No, is Haiti the top onein latam with pregnant girls from.12 to 16? No! Is the haitian police department the one collecting money in all those spots? The president, the person officially in charge of DR is from Haiti? No! Do you want me to continue? I have more than 100 Dominicans problems to give you, oh wait! If you're Dominican you're not going to dig the truth!
@おいmizuno But they are coming in illegally and have the nerve to ask for rights that don't exist in their non functioning country! Are illigal Haitians taking away seats from Dominican children in schools!?.....YES! Are Haitians taking away services from Dominicans in public hospitals!?..... YES! Are Haitians women giving birth for free in public maternity Hospitals more than Dominican women!?.....yes! Are Haitian men!! taking over construction jobs from Dominican men!?.....YES! What about in our tourist industry were you now have Haitians representing Dominican culture and let's not even bring up our ethnicity😂 Please stop making excuses because you know that if DR were to close it's boarder and not feed your people they would die from hunger! You are always blaming everyone else, but you own incompetent government or lack off.
I'm a Haitian your video is Dominican friendly and against Haitian Maybe you are Dominican or love a Dominican and for that reason you communicate from your point of view but understand and investigate that the change in the constitution must not affect Haitian or migrant born in the Dominican Republic before the change those Haitian are the one asking for the due nationalities or citizenship plus you are not saying that the massive deportation is affecting migrants who are legal in the Dominican Republic those are being victim of migration agents who break their ID that allowed them being legal in the Dominican Republic which is not even fair enough to exceed to point to even shoot and hit some Haitian immigrant. It is just because Haitian are Black and poor plus a historical hate.
Most of those so-called legal Haitians have fake documents with Dominican names! The Dominican Republic is a sovereign nation and can do whatever is best for its people. You should advocate for the Haitian government to give birth certificates and a better quality of life to it's, people! The Haitian Constitution states that no matter where a Haitian is born, they are still Haitian.....so there is that!!!
Another thing there are no Haitians being shot in DR...but plenty being shot in Haiti! Why don't you complain about that?! Also it's time for you to change your victim mentality it's 2024 not 1804!!
"because Haitian are black" wait but hold on... I thought we were black too? 😂😂😂😂 Y'all lie so much maybe that's why God made it so difficult for your people.
@@scottleckie3148Yet, you never hear them complain about the gangs and their useless non existent government. They live with their slave mentality from the beginning of their existence.....it's never their fault!!!
IMPORTANT UPDATE!!!! President Abinader listened to the uproar of the people and killed the tax reform bill! He removed it from Congress, to the surprise of everyone!
You’re absolutely right. I come several times a year and follow the news. When Dominican hospitals fill with Haitians it is the DR poor who suffer. The Haitians don’t pay, they can’t but the Dominicans are left holding the bag
Great job with tough topics. Immigration in particular is a tough one and it is understood that DR must look out for its citizens and borders.
Thanks for your great feedback! And Yes, inmigration is such a tough topic!
Thank you for all that very important information! 👍
We Dominicans don’t want to keep getting our taxes raised to pay for Hatian ladies giving birth in DR totally free. It’s an insane burden, all while we have no room in our hospitals for our own citizens. Our public schools are also overwhelmed. The Hatian government needs to stop neglecting its citizens and expect another poor developing nation to pay for them. This is not being racist.
Not only they are giving birth, but that they are staying in the DR to live for good and putting their children in the DR educational system and guess who is paying for all of this???? Yes, Dominicans tax payers.
Same goes to the dominicans in Madrid, Spain. We’re tired of your government neglecting its citizen and expecting Spain to pay for them, specially when they bring their ignorant culture, music and gang activities such as LK or DDP. This is not being racist
It seems that they are looking at raising taxes, regardless.
Americans also say that about illegals consuming social services in the USA. However, in DR dominicans (public hospital doctors, military border personnel, transporters, and immigration workers) are also part of the problem. Haitians also fund illegal crossings that NGOs supports and promotes. Everyone is in on the fix for a profit.
@@davidr9482 Another problem is the fact that most dominicans with health insurance and common sense do not use public hospital unless is an emergency and there are not any private ones around. If haitians do not use public hospitals in some areas of DR, those would be closed in less than a year due to lack of use.
It's so refreshing to have a really good video on a country that is so substantive. Keep up the good work. You're terrific.
Great job, young lady; fair and balanced. Que viva la República Dominicana. Blessings ❤
I definitely agree with you in terms of immigration topics and you don't need to be apologetic!
Glad I'm not alone in my views 😊😊
Another thing they says that we only have 500,000 Haitians here, thats the bigest jokenof the acentury. We have more than 3 millions living
That just goes to show how bad our migration systems are functioning: there no control at the border in order to know how many are coming in our going out 😣
How would anybody know when the majority are undocumented. I think that there are certain locations where there are many Haitians and then people interpret it as a representation of the whole country. I think that part of the problem is companies using Haitians as cheap labour whether they are in the country legally or not, JMHO. The Haitians have it bad enough in their country so, the last thing I want to see is hostility towards them in the Dominican Republic.
I don’t think there are 3+ millions Haitians in DR, but at least 1M.
@PurelyWalking there are videos of one of the main boarder gates being left open at night so they can easily get in......the government is aware and is doing nothing! This is all a plan in full force going on!!
@@isbe8810there are over 4million! They are in every province and creating havoc all over the island....including deforestation and consuming some of our protected species!!!
I literally stumbled on your channel. Great information, so I subscribed. POV: With all the taxes being proposed in Dominican Republic they must of taken a few pages from Canada and US. Can't wait for the update on this especially where investment is concerned!
I really appreciate this video. My issue is the deportation of people born in the Dominican Republic to a country where they have never been, let alone lived. It is not their language, culture or home. I have no issue with strong border control or deporting people who illegally crossed the border into the Dominican Republic. Thanks as always. I enjoy your videos.
Thanks so much for the feedback!
100% AGREE WITH YOUR EXPLANATION ABOUT THE IMMIGRATION SITUATION COULD NOT MORE CLEAR. THANKS.
Tax proposals are always aggressive in the DR. Once proposals are introduced, eveything gets negotiated to a reasonable amount. That means that you will pay more, but not as much as what made you scared.
I agree. That is how they mask what they really want or going for.
Lol sounds about right😅
I love your channel you are giving valuable and actionable information. Thank you 🔺
Thanks so much for being here!
I only tell you thank you excellent so people that don't understand this problem they can understand in English this big problem in D.R.i going to follow this channel right now
I love your adjustment to the motorcycles. You're lucky you're not in my parent's house in the Campo. You wouldn't go past your introduction. Good video!
Lolol gotta adapt to the circumstances! Thanks for the feedback!
Que bueno que ha tratado este tema del la reforma constitucional, yo considers que aunque es necesaria primero deberia buscarse la solucion en las evasiones y la informalidad, saludos desde newyork
Así es, la informalidad arropa una gran parte del sistema tributario, desafortunadamente
You should make a video regarding the 200-dollar online purchase limit. Many people buy online thinking they are just paying 18% ITBIS at the DR Customs, yet they are shocked to see the crazy tariffs they are being charged.
Well said!!!
Es una locura! Toda el alza de impuestos..
To anyone out there that has the ignorant view that we were part of haiti and we decided to separate from them: first of all way before what would become haiti came to be, we were already there. So instead of saying that we separated from them, what should be said is that after numerous invasions we decided to kick the invaders out.
The Dominican Republic as we speak is probably the most democratic state in Latin America.
We are not democratic we are a republic , they pretend to be democratic but the government itself is repressive and authoritarian
Far fetch much? 😂😂
Yes its
What are you talking about there is like 6 family that rule in this country and everyone else just serve their interest, we dont have the same def. Of democracy.
@@Matthew.33. Very true. But, I there are about 10 families that have been able to preserve their elite status for over 60 years since the death of Trujillo. You can also say that about other latin american countries. The difference is that dominicans do not hate each other like the Colombians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians, Hondurans, Guatemalan etc.
Totally agree with you on the Haitian situation; and no it’s not because they are black why they are being deported. On the new proposed taxes I believe the government is doing the right thing. The country can grow and develop by way of huge investments from business within or external. If the government needs to get money to develop better infrastructures, it can only do so by borrowing money from the IMF, the World Bank and there are also other ways. It can also raise money through taxes, the safest ways. You guys don’t want to keep getting entangled with the IMF o the World Bank. My two cents. Great video.👍
The government can easily save money by running things efficiently; here traditionally the government is used go give jobs to partisans. Have you ever been to any government office and see office clerks who's only job appears to be to clip forms together? Just go to the passport office and you will see them; and by the way, these are forms for matters that could be easily automated but then you will have to fire half the department and we can't have that.
Our governments have been running in deficit for years, which is covered by printing money and that is why the the value of the peso today is half what it was in 2004. That is not sustainable. Why do we even have a deal with the IMF, since the last time we needed them was in 2004? The only reason is to have them as an excuse to raise taxes ("it's not us, is the FMI asking us to"); so we don't rule our country, the IMF and the World Bank do?
I said it in another comment and I repeat it again: 45% of voters did not participate in the last election and I'm pretty sure that among those who voted for Abinader, Leonel and the other guy there were people who were disaffected with them but just hated the other guy more. So you could easily have 51% or more of the voters support a charismatic demagogue in the future and we can lose what little we have if we keep up with this nonsense.
Hey, Eli. I would like to know your thoughts or perspectives about Dominican history. I look forward to it.
Awesome! Thanks for the request!
I think this is the best explanation I’ve heard of the current border situation to a foreign audience. Very simple, complete, and to the point.
The tax reform is straight up abus1ve given the astronomically high spending and borrowing of the government without being reflected into the quality of life of the population. I hope the protests are worth for them to at least rethink this. It will hurt foreign investment, too!
Great input, and thanks for the feedback!
Good points.
@@PurelyWalking Gracias por el video 🙏🏻❤️
Do not forget that children born from a Dominican and Haitian is still considered Haitian. I just have a question based on the logic applied to Haitian. If it is believed that all Haitians are Haitians no matter where they are born or who they mix with, why doesn't that apply to Dominicans? Also, since Dominicans are a mix of African, Spanish, and Taino; shouldn't that mean no Dominicans should be allowed to live in the Dominican Republic? Or, does that rule only apply when they want it to? That logic doesn't work, does it? 😅
@@AscendedSaiyan3 your statement is wrong on many points: 1. A son or daughter of a Dominican person (be it the mother OR father) is deemed Dominican acording to our dominican constitution (article 18). 2. The fact that Dominicans como from mixed in RACE origins has nothing to do with Nationality. Race does not equal nationality.
Will there be grandfather protection on comfotur for those who have already purchased property?
Pleeeeease keep us updated 😢
Keep up the good work!
Excellent commentary and synopsis of these 2 critical issues.
One of the reasons the country is proposing a tax reform is to increase it S&P credit rating from non-investment grade to Investment grade which makes the country look less risky for international investors
Dominicans have the same immigration problem that he the US has and other European countries also have, and that is the economic progress attracts poverty strickened people.
Agenda 2030.
Not really we are a poor country, 3+ millions illegals (without paperwork even in their country more than 60%)it's a lot so they accuse the country of being racist and wanting without reason that our country provide them with legal documentations.
Subed. Vamo apoyar la prima.
Good job very well documented. My opinion about the migration and Dominicans complaining that there's no job. Well this is the chance to start looking for jobs, you better take those empty spots left by the deportation before the Haitians come back and take those jobs again. If 10 thousands Haitians get deported every week there should be at least 6 to 7 thousand new jobs available every week. I hope the young Dominicans that spend the day in the corner wasting their life can do something productive for the country.
We gained Independance from our colonizers, Spain, in 1821. We expelled a Haitin invasion of our territory in 1844. My personal opinion is that Haiti was a French historical mistake on our island of Santo Domingo at the end of the 17th century.
We were never a colony 🤦🏾♂️ we were part of spain a viceroyalty our independence from spain was based on economics we didn’t want to pay more taxes to the crown .
@@tregua24 there was a minor revolt in 1821 which resulted in another of several Haitian invasions. Haiti has invaded the Dominican Republic multiple times, including in 1801, 1805, 1822, and 1859 . Haiti was always the aggressor against legitimate settlements of Spanish people. Independence was won from Haiti, surely you know that.
@rogeramezquita5685 True, I just don't like to use the phrase "Independance" from Haiti as if they were such a superpower.
@@tregua24 they ruled with fear, brutality and rape for far too long. I understand your point; Haiti has never been a functioning country let alone a power. But, still it is what Dominican Independence Day is about.
Dominican republic didn't fight a war to get independence from haiti they signed a separation agreement they so could have a piece of the island
Do we have to pay property taxes the same way we do here in the united states
You are killing me Ma’am. First of all, you didn’t walk anywhere so I didn’t get to see anything new in the DR. Well, I guess I’m seeing your place for the first time. Nice couch, walls bare as hell. Second, the tax proposals are destroying my dreams of enjoying a villa in Vista Cana. The Confotur Law and property tax exemption made this buy a no brainer for me. Not to mention the anticipated problems with the labor force. The idiots in FL tried that and fell flat on their faces. Construction sites were a ghost town. My next text will be to my lawyer to find out how much I will lose if I cancel the purchase. Thanks a lot for ruining my Sunday Elly.
Good news! The tax bill was withdrawn from Congress about a week after making this video! We can expect a new bill to be submitted soon, but with plenty of changes. Maybe Confotur stays after all!
And, check out my OTHER videos; I have plenty of them walking around showing places!
The DR is becoming like the US now that they are upgrading. The new taxes are going to come as the DR Moves up further modernize. It enevetable. Great channel ! I just subscribed
27%tax is crazy, is that a monthly or yearly tax?
That's a Yearly tax on any amount above the mentioned threshold
So much for moving to the Dominican Republic. Why do you pay taxes on cars each year when you paid for the cars with your own money? That sounds ridiculous!
Easy money grab for the corrupt politicians.
There are states like Virginia that does this also. The DR is doing this so that its citizens replace older cars with newer cars.
@@dgo9121That doesn’t make sense because if the car is older than 5 years you pay less. In fact it’s half. The Dominicans will look for cars that are older than 5 years therefore, new car sales will go down. Everything will hurt the low income people many of whom are just getting by as it is. What are the big hotel chains paying in tax?
@@dgo9121 VA is a state not a country and require a yearly inspection for the car. it makes sense for VA and the environment even though most American's do not agree. Do you really believe the average Dominican will replace their cars because this of law?
@@wysemanacc84 I'm fully aware of VA being a state, just making an example. The strategy of getting people to buy newer cars by imposing higher taxes on older cars is practiced in many islands.
The tax on tourism industry should be raised some ,to reduce tax on dominican people. Property tax should look at what hotels pay first. I'm a tourist, don't see much trickle down to ordinary people. Also the pay rate in hotels should reflect the hours worjed.
How nice of you to be willing to pay in order to aliviate Dominican taxes! I Agree that wages for the workers should reflect hours worked
Nosotros veremos las consecuencias. No es divertido cuando el conejo tiene el arma. Para mejorar un país se necesitan tres cosas: 1. Un ejército fuerte. 2. Un recurso natural que se pueda exportar. 3. Y gente a la que se pueda explotar para obtener ganancias. Es la historia de todos los países poderosos. Lamentablemente, esto es cierto.
Also we don't need a traitor in the national palace 👎🏼
Illegale is illegale. The tas reforms is only the start
The tax reform was aimed to sound harsh at the beginning so as to creat a debate and end up with a reasonable one. So brace yourself as it will be a rough and easy ride intermittently.
Tax will 100% go up
What’s happening in the Dominican Republic is the American influence
The social programs are growing and it is becoming a welfare state.
Remember the Dominican Republic is only 1/2 of an island the other half is the poorest nation in the western hemisphere.
Therefore Dominican Republic is too small to sustain all the social programs it has created for itself.
This small 1/2 of an island simply cannot afford it.
Very true, the DR is being pressured very hard by US, Canada, France, GB, globalists and the UN to open their borders to Haiti and thus destroy their country in the name of "fairness", "anti-racism" and "virtue". These same forces seek to flatten all the world economies/societies and create a one world government.
Just to clarify something, the Dominican Republic still occupies 2/3 of the island of Santo Domingo and until 1937 it was 3/4 that's when the so-called "international court" at the Hague decided to give them 2,000 square of our territory because most of the residents there were haitian nationals.
I hope the tax law passes. Then, we can all pay a price for what has been going on, lately. 😉
I'm sorry, but taxes are the price of progress. If only we could get an honest accountability system so politicians don't steal it and everyone pay their fair share we can build a strong developed nation. I see the country trending in the right direction and am willing to pay my share. In the US I pay around 35% income tax, plus 8-9 % on most purchases, plus some additional state, city and local taxes, and have a huge urban housing crisis with crazy rent, property tax and insurance bill and mortgage payments, so we can do it, but we have to face the challenge because we have to pay if we want to develop and not live in poverty forever like our neighbors. So my belief is we should focus on demanding stronger protection of the treasure instead of opposing the unavoidable taxes.
Good point.
@@ClaudioJimenez-wr6ix But, shouldn’t that system benefit Dominicans who pay into it. Uncontrolled migration will hit the DR with a debt it can’t service. Look what is happening in Europe. Austria may soon be another Hungary, driven there be immigration and the UK is cutting winter fuel payments to the elderly with migrants in hotels for nothing. Yes, taxes are a consequence of growth but it is proper and wise to be cautious. Haiti could collapse the DR and its democracy
There is no need to pay taxes if the government cuts unnecessary spending and useless institution and that include the amount of money a congress men ,council , judge and senator get pays that include the president .
@@rogeramezquita5685 I guess that would be awesome yet improbable. But even if we shrink the payroll to a realistic number, the savings would amount to a fraction of the money needed for the economic expansion the country is experiencing. I know it’s frustrating to pay those ridiculous salaries, but I reckon there’s absolutely nothing we can do about it, so I focus on what we can do
@@dhunsi1340 In my view, you are 100% correct! Being realistic, I'm not sure the gov. will fully bring the immigration plan to fruition (if it's more than a smoke screen), but if it does, the employers will have to replace migrant with native labor which is highly qualified but refuses to work for the exploitative rates migrants do. Remember, foreign labor in agriculture, construction and other activities is a fairly recent trend as they used to be mainly employed in the sugar cane business. If Dominicans get paid decently, I guarantee you their return to the job, thus additional tax revenue. This would reduce the increase needed in the proposed fiscal reform. The people need not politicize their demands. This is bigger than party affiliation.
I am Dominican, live in Europe(far away from Spain btw) and have been a proud homeowner for many years and I pay land taxes. I understand the concerns of our people, but as someone who has lived most of his life outside the country, I can see where this is going. Taxes are unfortunately a necessary evil that helps reimburse any benefits people receive in the future. It depends on how the government uses this money, but in general all developed countries do this to fund their welfare system. We can argue that people don't earn enough or that the social system doesn't exist in the DR. But if we never start, we will never reach the level of developed countries and we will continue to live in the past just because it benefits “ME” as a person the way things are today.
You said it well, those taxes translate into collective well-being and as a Dominican you should know that here there is no problem solved, neither electricity nor water nor citizen security nor justice nor education nor health nor a prepared police force nor the issue of immigration left unsolved the poorest people And do they also want to tax businesses? Yes, with that, people have survived since the pandemic here by selling on Shein, Amazon or with a UA-cam channel and they also want to tax that and the officials, since they reach political office, become mega millionaires in the face of everyone, because that is not possible, talk to me about reform when you resolve those abuses and those thefts in the government first.
It will be good and all if that money was not going to corrupt politicians and to pay for all the illegal Haitians using free services in the schools and hospitals, including free utilities, and other services. Illigals pay no taxes! Not fair for Dominicans to continue paying and not receiving back what they pay into!!
Sorry I was using the wrong account and didn't realize it so I'm using my account instead. I am actually half Chinese and half Dominican, but as I said I have lived most of my life outside the country and live in a well established European country with very solid social welfare. I cannot fully understand the situation, as I have lived most of my life outside the country, but what you say makes a lot of sense and I know the precariousness of our country, which despite being a growing economy, still has a lot of social issues. Btw I can speak spanish but decided to reply in english since is a english centered channel. Good job btw.
Starting a welfare state in the DR, especially now when it's growing a middle class and doing relatively well, would be suicidal for the nation. Government should be limited to 4 functions: 1. It should provide for military defense and border controls of the nation. 2. It should enforce contracts between individuals. 3. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. 4. To define the rules of "the game we play" i.e. society and norms, epecially legal ones. The DR cannot even provide these prerequisites anywhere nearly satisfactorily and now some people want to institute massive taxation and a welfare state? It would be an unmitigated disaster despite what you might see as a common good in "developed countries". It would destroy the burgeoning middle class in the DR; it would cause the young, talented and productive people who are currently making a good living to flee the country; it would result in even more money taken from the Dominican workers and handed to unworthy citizens and Haitians/illegals (as has happened in my country); it would see a massive increase in drugs and illegal activity because those avenues would be even more profitable as they don't pay ANY taxes and un sin numero de otros problemas which would be devastating. It would turn the DR into Cuba, Venezuela or Mexico. Let's get the basics covered before ANY talk of a welfare state (more than already exists in the DR)...
@@scottleckie3148 I NEVER said that the government should set up a welfare state, I pointed out that all developed countries use taxes to fund their welfare system. What I said was that we should start somewhere to one day reach the level of developed countries. However, we still have a long way to go.
Halo❤
I think the Dominican Republic should avoid foreign extremist politics no matter if they are Far Left or the Far Right Trumper-type nonsense. Dominicans should learn from the best-performing nations ABOVE the United States and understand different political and economic systems and if some of these policies can be applied to the Dominican Republic.
Climate Change and other scientific matters should not be a political issue in a way that conspiracies are spread instead of reality. Higher taxes are not always "bad" if you have the right conditions. For example, if certain taxes are applied to give the middle class and poor Dominicans better social services, this can be a major advantage. Also, stronger labor laws and more jobs including more technologically advanced jobs for Dominicans will help progress the Dominican Republic. Less corruption and more transparency can help the standard of living rise for more Dominicans along with the GDP.
EXACTLY BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE CORRUPT DO, THEY MAKE A CIRCUS TO COVER ANOTHER CIRCUS WITH THEIR SUPPOSED INDEPENDENT JIDICIAL SYSTEM IN THE END ALL THE PRISONERS END UP RETURNING A PART OF WHAT THEY STOLEN AND STILL IN THEIR HOMES ENJOYING THE TAXES OF THE ASSHOLE DOMINICAN PEOPLE IN THE END EVERYTHING IT IS FOR THEM AND FOR FOREIGNERS THAT EVEN IF IT IS DIFFICULT TO ASSIMILATE IT HAS PRIORITY. THEY ARE SPECIAL CITIZENS AND THAT IS WHAT IS BOTHERING HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT DOES NOT CARE FOR ANY INTEREST OF THE DOMINICAN. HE SAYS ONE THING IN THEIR SPEECHES BUT THE REALITY IS VERY DIFFERENT, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY LIKE THE ONE YOU SAY BUT THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR NOW BECAUSE "Los bomberos no se pisan la manguera " AS THEY SAID HERE
Thanks, that's an interesting video and you cover many things, but I will just comment on the following:
1-Haitian women using our hospitals: I agree that it’s a problem when a large part of our health budget goes to treating Haitian mothers here illegally. However, this is an issue for border police, not hospitals. I keep asking: How do pregnant women, often in labor, manage to travel hundreds of kilometers from the border to hospitals in Santo Domingo or Santiago? Why doesn’t anyone in the press ask the president that during his Monday briefings? Once these women arrive at our hospitals, by law, they must be treated (as it should be). Doctors and nurses are there to care for patients, not to act as immigration officers. If we don't address the problem at the source-the border-we’re wasting our time.
2-Haitian students in our schools: This issue isn’t as simple as described. Yes, there are around 174,000 Haitian kids in our schools, but their parents work here and pay taxes (ITBIS, soon to be VAT). There are also reports that Dominican families try to enroll their children in better public schools outside their designated areas. I can’t say how accurate that is because, as usual, our journalists focus on the headlines and don’t do investigative work. While this is a problem, if it’s immigration-related, please refer to my earlier point. Teachers and principals aren’t immigration enforcers, and by law, everyone in the country (not just citizens) is entitled to an education.
3-Fiscal reform: The tax reform highlights the deficiencies in our democracy. The government has a spending problem, largely because it’s used by the ruling party to create jobs for their supporters. We have one of the largest governments in Latin America by population percentage. While we’ve made progress, we’re not a developed country, and we should have a more efficient government. Look at the 4% of GDP spent on education-it’s a significant amount, yet our students remain the worst in the region. The same inefficiency exists across all sectors. Instead of fixing this, the government wants more money from us. That mindset is dangerous, and it's why 45% of voters didn’t bother in the last election. If we don’t stand up to Abinader and his cronies, we risk ending up with a Dominican version of Fidel Castro or Hugo Chávez, losing what we have for generations.
Thanks so much for such great insight on these topics!
You bring up some excellent points. The Dominican Republic needs to reduce its government. Smaller government with a strong focus on improving efficiency across the board is the only way the country is going to advance. Public spending needs to be more frugal. More money is not necessarily always the solution, sometimes you just need to fix and tweak what you already have. Furthermore, why doesn’t the government go after those companies and corporations that evade millions of dollars in taxes every year instead of squeezing more money out of the population? Many families are already struggling as it is, thus paying more taxes is something that’s not going to favor them, it’s only gonna add more stress to people’s already cumbersome financial situation.
You raise some good points. IMO, however: #1. true, the law dictates they must be treated. The problem are the corrupt police, politicians and military that run Haitians back and forth over the border all while being paid by the same and betraying their own people and the Dominican Rep. #2. the illegal Haitians do not pay much or any taxes as most work for cash. #3. Yes, if this continues the DR will end up like Cuba or Venezuela. Thanks for your insights.
Taxwise, this is not going to encourage investing in Dominican Republic! As for immigration towards Haitians, it is understandable to a certain point. I have heard that lots of them who are legally in the country are being pick up in the streets to be driven and expelled to Haiti and that is totally wrong. Lots of these people have been working hard in the Dominican fields, construction, hottellerie and so on. If they are legal they shouldn't be expelled. They have contribuated to the development of the country since many years. Also, lots of corruption in the DR. I am not Haitian but all of this doesn't encourage one to invest in DR...after all this could happen to anyone that comes in your country and invest no matter where they are for!
As a Dominican I am going to clarify several points for you.
First, those supposedly legal Haitians are not deported unless they first go through an immigration process to verify their immigration status. Does it make sense to you that you are a foreigner and walk around without documents knowing that they are being deported?
Many of those arrested do not have a birth certificate or a certificate of live birth from a hospital, many come running from the Haitian justice system and here it is not known if they are a criminal or belong to one of those criminal gangs.
second DOMINICAN REPUBLIC was built by generations and generations of Dominicans until the beginning of 2000, everyone in the construction was DOMINICAN. 90% of the Haitians were in the bateys or in the few mills that remain in the country because they were not even in the agricultural area and It has been a systematic process of removing Dominican labor from these mostly foreign companies that invest their capital here because of how easy it is for them to evade taxes and pay corrupt government officials, which is why they were removing Dominicans from all those areas. hotels, those large multinationals are not DOMINICAN, that is why they have sold the country and are the main promoters of illegal immigration to pay them less and not give Haitians rights or health or anything, but rather the same complicit state takes charge with the taxes of DOMINICAN assholes so don't give your opinion on a topic you don't know!!!! Here we Dominicans cannot enroll our children in public schools, much less use the health system because they give priority to Haitians, so don't come and say that we depend on Haitians because the reality is that many Dominicans are unemployed and only Businessmen and politicians are the ones who benefit from that, I hope it is clear to you.
I totally agree with you but this is what they want to do and I think they are basing all of their problems on immigration issues. The corruption is the biggest issue but nobody wants to face that elephant. This is why I never wanted to invest there since they can wake up one day and change laws and taxes. I am pretty sure once these new taxes get thru congress and approve you will start seeing many proprieties/businesses for sale with this global recession right around the corner.
@@erikasantana3216 bien dicho, la pura verdad! The same thing has happened to my country but in a slightly different way.
DR is gona be own by the us , little by little 😂 she said it has to pass to congress , DR is a independent country why is it going to congress ? Your government is selling DR to the US 🇺🇸😂😂😂😂
@aferrer74 Why do you feel so inferior?! You people haven't owned jack shit since you paid for your independence🧻🥱🤫😂
Let's play the Dominican game: Haitians are not Black, they are Haitian 😂
Lol
The goberment should charge the men to pay for their children been born in The Dominican Republic," un buen gustazo un buen trancazo de pago!.
@@neliathen638 No, they should give birth in Haiti and never in the DR. Dominicans women dont go to Haiti till give birth because its not their country. Haitians women are the real threat to all Dominican hospitals by invading us and taking advantage of the free system.
@@QueensNY718not only that
....by giving birth to all these little Haitians.....Dominicans will lose their beautiful mixed and diverse identify!!!
All countries should protect their own borders and enforce their immigration laws. A country is not a country without borders and which doesn't enforce it's own laws. And no other country should meddle in how sovereign nations enforce their laws. Their citizens voted for this. It's their own business! I hope those Dominicans that live in the USA that are for DR enforcing their own immigration laws and protecting their own borders don't complain when the US does the same. I can't stand when people say the USA has plenty of land to allow anybody that wants to come here be allowed to come without going through the immigration system. The same crap that's going on in the DR is happening here.
Indeed!
@@PurelyWalking A typical argument is that the USA is a land of immigrants and it should allow anyone that feels like coming here should be allowed to do so. Americans won all those battles in the past to have a sovereign nation. It stops being the USA once it allows people to just cross the border without having to abide by immigration laws. It turns into a mess.
Here is the biggest problem guys, the magic question how are the Haitians returning into DR after having been deported back to Haiti,,,, if millions of Haitian are being deported and millions are returning through border,, then someone is making a lot of money giving the Haitians back access to the country illegally knowing at some point they'll get caught and face deportation once more,,, the other question is what national authority is illegally smuggling these Haitians back into DR ? It seems like a pond, making money smuggling Haitians and adding onto current border problem,,, to get that border in order everyone have to be on the same page,, if the big 🤔 dominican authorities close to the borders are allow smuggling of Haitians into DR then reoccurring issues as it has been for years and centuries
I´d like to at to this interesting debate starting with minute 2:28, that the video discusses "Jus Soli" in the Dominican Republic, emphasizing key historical and legal changes. However, "Jus Soli" was the constitutional law from 1929 until 2010, when reforms targeted against current Haitian immigrants, who were living here largely due to U.S.-initiated sugar cane labor between 1916 to 1924. Institutionally, the major legal shift began with Law No. 285-04, redefining "in transit" to exclude Haitian workers, followed by the 2010 constitutional reform and the highly controversial 2013 ruling (Sentencia No. TC/0168/13), which retroactively stripped Dominican nationality from those born between 1929 and 2007. These legal changes disproportionately affected Haitians, highlighting a targeted effort to expel this immigrant group from the country.
As much as I love your content, it also worries me a bit that you are posting a supposed protest against haitin immigrants, more specifically by a group called "La Antigua Orden" which I do not believe represents any reasonable dominican sentiment or patriotism in any way. I´m sorry to disagree in this topic, but I think it´s important that outsiders comprehend this reality as it can be very confusing and risky.
@gregoriogarcia7188 why do Haitians want to be Dominicans so bad.....are they ashamed of where they come from🤫🥱
I havent looked at the background of "La Antigua Orden" but the protest was a real occurrence, not a supposed one. Also, I DO think most Dominicans DO feel that ilegal migration is out of control
@@PurelyWalking sorry if I confused with the word ´supposed´. When I said it was a supposed protest, it´s in the sense that it had a supposedly fair and legitimate claim, when actually, it does not. This is a fanatics group that has been dedicated over 10 years to blowing things out of proportion and only rally people on confusion, fake news, misrepresentation, false claims, violence and outright xenofobia. Even if the illegal immigration issue is to some degree out of control, it´s not to the level they try to portray it (mainly agains Haitians and not corruption and lack of professionalism on our end). They also narrate it as some sort of threat to our economical balance or democracy feeding into fear and panic. This is dangerous and risky. Please, if you would like to have objective information on the matter, I invite you to draw your information from verified and legitimate sources. Much Love!.
@@PurelyWalking They are a patriotic group of young people that have every right to fight for our sovereignty and identity as a country. They of course don't believe that Dominicans have a right to fight against the overwhelming illigal immigration from that side. They should be more concerned about the gang violence and non existent government in Haiti and not spend so much time hating on 🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴
Que barbaridad! RD el mejor país del mundo!!! Estos políticos....
Haitian are not the problem, the Dominicans are.
How? Bruh that Doesn't even make sense
Says the Haitian😂
@Flexed_qt is Haiti running immigration control in DR? No, is Haiti running the DGN in DR? No, is Haiti running the Dominican sanitary facilities? No, is Haiti running the JCE to sell documents to Haitians, Venezuelans, some narcos from Europe? No! Is Haiti running the migratory traffic in DR? No! Is Haiti the top one country running the most biggest drug factory in latam? No! Is Haiti running the drugs businesses in all DR prisons? No, is Haiti the top onein latam with pregnant girls from.12 to 16? No! Is the haitian police department the one collecting money in all those spots? The president, the person officially in charge of DR is from Haiti? No! Do you want me to continue? I have more than 100 Dominicans problems to give you, oh wait! If you're Dominican you're not going to dig the truth!
@@emmasarlanis Haitians are not running the Dominicans institutions. Keep trying.
@おいmizuno But they are coming in illegally and have the nerve to ask for rights that don't exist in their non functioning country! Are illigal Haitians taking away seats from Dominican children in schools!?.....YES! Are Haitians taking away services from Dominicans in public hospitals!?..... YES! Are Haitians women giving birth for free in public maternity Hospitals more than Dominican women!?.....yes! Are Haitian men!! taking over construction jobs from Dominican men!?.....YES! What about in our tourist industry were you now have Haitians representing Dominican culture and let's not even bring up our ethnicity😂 Please stop making excuses because you know that if DR were to close it's boarder and not feed your people they would die from hunger! You are always blaming everyone else, but you own incompetent government or lack off.
All Dominicans better vote for Trump to save DR
Keep dreaming, Trump is only for himself . He does not give a …. About Dominicain républic
nonsense
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All racist Dominicans must vote for because he will make a plan for all racist like him.
I'm a Haitian your video is Dominican friendly and against Haitian Maybe you are Dominican or love a Dominican and for that reason you communicate from your point of view but understand and investigate that the change in the constitution must not affect Haitian or migrant born in the Dominican Republic before the change those Haitian are the one asking for the due nationalities or citizenship plus you are not saying that the massive deportation is affecting migrants who are legal in the Dominican Republic those are being victim of migration agents who break their ID that allowed them being legal in the Dominican Republic which is not even fair enough to exceed to point to even shoot and hit some Haitian immigrant. It is just because Haitian are Black and poor plus a historical hate.
Most of those so-called legal Haitians have fake documents with Dominican names! The Dominican Republic is a sovereign nation and can do whatever is best for its people. You should advocate for the Haitian government to give birth certificates and a better quality of life to it's, people! The Haitian Constitution states that no matter where a Haitian is born, they are still Haitian.....so there is that!!!
Another thing there are no Haitians being shot in DR...but plenty being shot in Haiti! Why don't you complain about that?! Also it's time for you to change your victim mentality it's 2024 not 1804!!
"because Haitian are black" wait but hold on... I thought we were black too? 😂😂😂😂 Y'all lie so much maybe that's why God made it so difficult for your people.
@@emmasarlanis 70 Haitians were murdered by gangs 2 weeks ago outside of the capital. It's the murder capital of the world for non-war zone areas.
@@scottleckie3148Yet, you never hear them complain about the gangs and their useless non existent government. They live with their slave mentality from the beginning of their existence.....it's never their fault!!!