MAN O WAR BLEW ME AWAY (MANCHESYER APPOLLO 1984 WOW THESE FELLAS ARE THE LOUDEST BAND I HAVE EVER HEARD AND THEY HAD JUST RELEASED SIGN OF THE HAMMER EXELENT ALBUM AFTER THE SHOW IT WAS LIKE ME AND MY FREINDS WERE IN SHOCK ITS ALL (HEAVYMETALTHUNDER) MAN 0 WAR BOSWELL
I'd say the developers got a totally cracking deal by sending you the re.corder. All that expert feedback ? Basically getting a consultant for free. But what is really impressive is Sarah's openness and enthusiasm. No elitism here , sneering or otherwise.
you're absolutely right, we'll be eternally grateful to Sarah for her precious advices and the time she's invested in making this video. Grazie Sarah... if you ever come to Italy remember about us and please, be our guest :)
Sarah, you're a smile-maker, a first class musician and a real lady for a real world. I love that digital wonder. I used to have a "digital horn" which I interfaced to my synthesiser via midi. Sadly, burglars relieved me of it.
@@artinoise Well done Artinoise this is such an amazing and versatile instrument, and thank you Sarah for giving them your valuable feedback in order to help them to refine it, I'm off to put my name on the waiting list... 👍😉
You know, it now comes with a second mute-tap in case you loose the first one? ;-) Did ypu clean THW recorder, I know it is a stupid question, but the stick that was delivered along with it barely fits in the re.corder and if I add any Kind of small tissue it won't enter at all. Would be glad for any advice. Tried the one from my sopranino but it is too short... Amyway thanks for the great Video without it I would have never known about it...
I have a re.corder (from the kickstarter). I agree with everything Sarah said, especially regarding the latency and the lack of explanation to the menus. The most important thing to me is, although it's very impressive, this is NOT a wind instrument. It's a MIDI controller using your breath and your finger positions, etc. A real recorder, like any wind instrument, is exquisitely sensitive to your breath - the pitch changes when you blow harder or softer, and it "speaks" when you use your tongue to articulate (ta-da-da or whatever). This thing is not, and I have some difficulty with complex rythms. It's a bit like the difference between your own arm and a bionic arm if you've had your arm amputated. The bionic arm might be a lot stronger, but nobody would cut off their arm to get one!
@@alessandropozzi9575 It can be played as an ordinary recorder, but not a very good one! The normal way to play is as a MIDI controller. Each hole is equipped with sensors (2 for the thumb-hole), plus there is a sensor measuring how hard you blow - you have to put on a mute that redirects air to the sensor. The on-board CPU sends a stream of notes through a bluetooth connection to an app on your phone or PC, which in turn is in charge of generating the notes. Don't get me wrong, if a breath-controlled MIDI controller is what you want it's very good value, and it's quite fun to be able to switch between a flute, an oboe, a sax or a cello. But it's a completely different thing from any of those instruments in real life.
So first off, you are just adorable. I love your enthusiasm!! This really is a cool idea, especially since most electronic wind instruments are useless without power or a battery- being able to play it acoustically is a game changer here.
Loved the demo of Sicilienne, I'm doing that piece for my senior recital for trumpet and you don't see it too terribly often, especially outside of strings.
Casio put out the amazing CasioHorn, which looked like a kind of a Sax, but had recorder fingering. And: it sounded like a Casio, but was also MIDI equipped.
Hi Sarah, my 'earlybird' re.corder has just arrived and so far I'm delighted. Less plasticky and toy-like than I half-expected. Your review definitely helped to convince me. It seems that they listened to you! My mute plug has a little clip that clips it firmly to the lanyard when not in use. Good work.
I just discovered your channel and I'm not musical myself so I live vicariously through those that are and I just wanted to say that you a a joy to watch. Thanks for putting great information out there on an oft under appreciated instrument!
Back in the 90s, I had an idea for a heavy rock recorder song/album/career. I think I wrote the intro to one song before abandoning it as everyone was telling me it was a terrible idea.
It's called a recorder from the Italian word "ricorda", meaning "remember", from the time when the instrument was used by singers to memorize the melodies for what we usually call _Gregorian Chants_
Superb review. I'm sold on getting one of these when they're generally available. FWIW, as a software developer, I'd appreciate all the specific critiques as valuable input for future revisions / iterations. I imagine the strap is for kids who are otherwise bound to drop what is a presumably more delicate instrument than a $5 plastic soprano?
I've been following the noise around these re.corders for a while. As someone who is still very much learning to play this would be convenient, less worries about bothering housemates/neighbours (oh, how frequently I would still prefer to practice/play after coming home from an evening shift!)
Very nice and comprehensive review! I wonder if part of the woes in the feeling comes from the underlying synthesizer (sound banks, etc) and not the app or the HW itself. For that price I will definitely put it on my follow list!
Is it possible to switch it to recorders in F, and maybe in G too? That would be interesting. Also adding ancient wind instruments like cornetts and serpents, shawms, dulcians, raketts etc. would be nice, after all that's a thing which many recorder players look for too.
Yes, it is completely possible. There are two ways to do it: the fingering is completely configurable so you can define it as you wish; there is also a "transpose" feature that allows you to move the sounded pitch up or down a semitone at a time as much as a full octave in either direction - this can be done in seconds, whereas setting up a whole new fingering will take quite a few minutes.
I would like to ask a question before purchasing. 1. Is this product capable of adding recordings to a device connected via Bluetooth? 2. Does the product itself make a sound? 3. If there is sound from the product, is it possible to record through Bluetooth connection at the same time?
Great review ! I bought one, on the back of this video, and I love that I can play a rich mellow sound on a descant recorder :) There's no latency when you use it to drive a synth rather than using the app, just an infinite variety of expressive sounds. It's just fabulous for £120. I'd recommend using it with a CraftSynth 2.0
You can get rid of the latency in the app too by going into settings, then sensitivity and (a) changing the threshold to 'LOW' and (b) setting the velocity to 127.
Thanks for uploading this. As a Kickstarter backer I got my re.corder a couple of weeks ago, and excitedly tried it out. My review of it started off exactly the same as yours - including the good range, the misplaced bottom hole, the uneven latency, and the nonsense rhythms in the play-along tunes. I too thought it was a decent prototype but not a finished instrument. However... on the Android app, the electronic sounds are completely unusable. Notes sound less than half of the time, and fingerings above an A simply don't work. I've been playing for nearly 30 years, and I couldn't get more than 8% on the beginner level because the notes simply weren't working. Your review has persuaded me to dig it out again and try on some other devices, or else get back to Artinoise for a replacement. Here's hoping I can get it to work as well as yours, at least.
Philip, please send us an email and report your problems with the instrument, it's very important to us, especially at this early stage. Hopefully we can sort out most of your issues and if that's the case give you a replacement. Hear from you soon
@@artinoise Thanks for your response. I'll try it with an iOS device when I have time this weekend and see if I can get it working better, then send you an email with some details.
great review..... but played this over 3 years too? What is the lifespan of the lipo? You can't chanced the lipo easily. So after 3 years this flute is dead? I like to buy this but 150 is to expensive for a recorder when its dead over 3/4 years... Maybe I am wrong? Sarah did you have to pay for this recorder?
The inline vibrato may be because the midi file has to be as lighter as possible, so it is repeating the same file one and another. And one thing I notices is that is out of tune. Very imperceptible, but out of tune at last. Very interesting video. Regards from Buenos Aires
Why do you say it is out of tune? It is tuned to standard concert pitch, A4 = 440Hz. I play mine with pre-recorded backing tracks as well as with backing tracks I have recorded myself and, using the octave shift functionality, from C2 to C8 and it always sounds perfectly in tune to me. My KORG electronic tuner says that it is in tune too.
@@adolforodolfo6929 it´s very difficult for me giving an answer in english. When a tune is played, it starts with a note and it finishes whit a semi semi note of difference. It´s very imperceptible, but it´s what I hear. In fact, I noticed that most of the samplers have the same problem. It´s not a human error. I think thet is about how samplers are played back
Very interesting & amazingly low price! Does it have an audio out or does that come from the computer only or both? So if you have midi out on the PC I take it you can use the re.corder to play midi synths with it then? How does the PC receive from it? Is there a special USB stick that picks signals up using Bluetooth or something?
The re.corder doesn't produce sound itself - it sends signals to whatever it is connected to - phone/Ipad/PC and that device produces the sound. Yes, you can use it to play midi synths. The re.corder only connects with devices via Bluetooth - it can't be "wired in".
I really like it. I have got an EWI 5000 as well and it's not in the same ball park. But it does have an accelerometer, which is fun and seems to work pretty well. @@spiceybadger
Interesting instrument. I see a big disadvantage: while it supports standard MIDI over BLE (Bluetooth), which is available on laptops, smartphones and tablets, using various operating systems, the app (where specific settings can be made) is only available for Apple devices. So android, Windows users can't configure it, it can only be used as a standard Bluetooth MIDI controller.
I want to add the Android app performs very well on a very wide range of devices! Since a couple of relesase Android has a way to prioritize the audio and our app uses it as possible. In some cases it even exceed iOS performance (iOS put a 'cap' on the speed at which bluetooth messages are handled). Your experience may vary with your phone/OS version but up to now we had very few latency complaint on both platform. As Sarah points out, the 'recorder' sound itself is responsible, it has a very long attack time, we are going to substitute it soon with a more prompt sample!
Midi in fact is not the easy subject you think it is. I really suggest that you read a few books purely about midi and thevrange ofbthing that can be done using it. When you consider that a pipe organ is a wind instrument, and the biggest pipe organ has 8000 pipes, all controlable at the same time by midi it may start to dawn just how complicated midi really is. I got involved in this subject when it first came to light , and to explain it turned out to be one of the hardest things i have done in what has been a liftime in music because its not just one thing, its not just having 16 channels, there are a whole load of things within the channel control that also take place at the same time. My impression of the recorder was that the sampled sounds could do with beingva lot more realistic, a good example of this is one of my keyboards has twenty eight versions of piano alone, plus the fact that i can via midi change the sound even more if i wish plus having a 16 channel sequencer on board as well. I agree with you about unwanted delay with breath control but it seems that all the manufacturers of electronic instruments have tge same problem, All in all i was quite impressed with such a small instrument, they are heading in the right direction.
Yes, midi is a big subject. The re.corder comes with about 20 instruments, all of which are OK, although some are better than others. The app is designed to be user friendly (which it is) and to provide a range of voices suited to the re.corder. The instrument can also be used as a midi controller, meaning that it is not at all limited to the voices on the app - but then, yes, the user does have to develop some midi literacy to get the most out of it.
The built in sounds from the re.corder app did not sound very authentic. It might sound better if you send the midi to another app with better midi sound files.
I've been following this with interest. The main area that interests me is the ability to use headphones so you can practise silently. To listen to someone play the same passage over and over must be really annoying and can stop the learner from playing, but if you can plug headphones in, perfect!
This was my main reason for backing this on Kickstarter. Still waiting for delivery, so excited to get this! The one note on using headphones is you want to have a device you can plug the headphones in directly. My understanding is bluetooth headphones would introduce more latency.
@@laurameier4482 bluetooth headphones, oh no thanks. I have a pair and though they're great for listening to music I bought a dongle and tried them with my digital piano. The delay was so bad it was unplayable
Yes, you can use headphones to practise silently. When playing digitally, with the mute plug in, the re.corder itself doesn't produce any sound; the sound is produced via the app on your phone, Ipad, PC, whatever you have connected the re.corder to via bluetooth - so you just plug your headphones into the device in question, not into the re.corder. And you're right - don't use bluetooth headphones or you will get significant latency problems.
Yeaaa I got my recorder singe Wednesday the 31st of March. It is the plastic baroque recorder in renaissance-look. I love Sarah's channel since it is so inspirational. Ehe trigger of buying the recorder was singe ny clarinet broke and needs a repair. So why not learning a new instrument and it' s really fun
That was a valuable review, both for consumers and developers. This product excites me at that price point. Over 30 years ago, I enjoyed playing the Casio DH-100, and this product has much more potential for fun. If Artinoise makes your suggested improvements, I'd like to form a postmodern Devo with all bandmates playing a re.corder. Imagine what fun we'd have!
@Chris Brisson - Casio DH-100! Yes! I loved that, but 'had' to give it to my young cousin whose enthusiasm for it was overwhelming. That had very good breath control, using a sensor that looked like a small loudspeaker with a plastic cone. The cone was displaced by the back-pressure, and the electronics detected this. Very effective.
The main problem I heard with that recorder sample (not the actual tone of the instrument played acoustically, the electronic version of it) is that they built the attack into each note, and it takes a fraction of a second to bloom.. and then when it does, it has a bit of Ian Anderson-style second-harmonic overblowing in it. Every. Time. You hit. The note. That fraction of a second before it blooms could actually be the source of what you're hearing as latency issues with that voice - you say you didn't experience it with, say, the guitar voice. Otherwise.. a €69 Lyricon? Yeah sign me up!
How FUN!!! I'm on the waiting list. I've been a recorderplayer for 50 years, and find this very cool. (I also have an Orba from Artiphone, love playing with music and sounds. )
Finally, after ~3 months of strugling with latency (Re.Corder & Android), I have "solved" (bypassed) this issue → with external "MIDI BLE to USB" dongle ("WIDI bud Pro") + pocket MIDI soundModule ("Midiplus MiniEngine"), connected through 3,5mm Line-OUT to active repro. ♫ And voil'a: now we have an instant "GeneralMIDI" audio output (128 instruments + reverb), without any "computer" (Android, Apple, Windows, etc.) ... and most importantly → without any noticeable LATENCY (y) 😊
While I wait and wait and wait for mine to arrive (I was an early backer) ... I appreciate your review. As someone that has worked with sampling, I'm pretty sure the problem with the recorder sounds and latency has to do with the actual recorder samples (which are sub-par) ... They ought to hire you for a recording session and get some quality samples in there. :-)
That's super affordable for what it is (that's about $75 usd or something.) I could see it being used for a wide range of recorder players. It could be fun new learning tool for students, a creative new tool for musicians, great for sound effects, used in performances... Hopefully they take these critiques into consideration before they send it to market and come out with a banging product. this looks super cool
Can you recommend re.corder to practice with headphones to avoid disturbing my neighbors. Will skills gained in this way be applicable to a regular recorder?
@@mrs.kencade7372 I have come to it the other way round; I have been playing the regular recorder for many many years - now I have a re.corder as well. I would say that the answer to your question is yes for some aspects of recorder playing, but no for some others. The default fingering is basically the same (although the bottom hole is not offset as it is on a conventional recorder) and you can tongue as you do on a conventional recorder, so those are two things you can definitely practise in silence. But when you are playing the re.corder digitally, as you have to if you want to listen through headphones, then there are some differences compared to a conventional recorder, basically with regard to tonguing and breath. Playing digitally, you can't produce any kind of "percussive" effects through tonguing; you just start or stop the sound, you can't alter that sound in any way by tonguing hard or soft. Breath is perhaps more important; the re.corder will not drop pitch if you blow too softly, nor will it go sharp if you blow too hard - it will always produce the same (correct) pitch, it will just be quieter or louder. This makes it easier to play in some ways, because you only have to get your fingering right to produce the right note - you don't have to change your breath force for the high and low registers. So in that respect it's not a substitute for practice on a "real" recorder. My own view is that it's not worth buying the re.corder merely as another conventional recorder that has the advantage of being mutable - it's really an electric instrument in its own right and, as such, is easily worth the asking price.
No need to apologise, I'm sure they knew they were sending their re.corder to a very competent professional! And what a great review!!! I had dabbled with the idea of buying one of these thingies, there are other midi electronics around, but they are hugely expensive and they have one gazillion functions I will never use because I'm just an amateur and not a composer. Then I saw some previews of this instrument and thought, yes, but how does it work? And now, thanks to Sarah, I know. I was attracted by the idea of a midi instrument based on the recorder - not with its own fingerings but with recorder's fingerings. The learning section would also be great for me. The midi section I don't need but I'm sure others might like it. I am a bit put off by the problems you mention and I do hope they amend them because the price is great and I'd buy one on the spot.
Yeah, hopefully they take notice of Sarah's criticisms. They some like they are mostly software related so they should be able to fix everything or add some kind of software toggle options (like to turn auto-vibrato on or off). They may need to modify the midis a bit to make them seem more responsive, but that sound be something they can easily do at this point.
Sarah, that's what I call a good review. BTW, you can use the small lanyard loops that came with it to attach the mute to the instrument, so you won't lose it. It says so in the manual ;-) I bought my re.corder through the Kickstarter campaign to add another windcontroller to my 18 piece collection. I've been a sax player for decades before converting to windcontrollers a few decades ago. I've never played the recorder, so I'll have to learn the fingerings. For me it was just a gimmick to add to the collection and never intended to be used regularly. I have more professional windcontrollers for that. However, I was pleasantly surprised by what my €60 got me. I have more expensive windcontrollers with less features. When latency is too high, it's unusable as an instrument. I have noticed some latency with the re.corder. You make some great observation when pointing out the attack of the sound patch. Since you can play the piano patch without latency, the Bluetooth connection isn't causing the issue. I would suspect they intentionally increased the breath response time to prevent glitches (unintended ghost notes) that are so common when playing an electronic wind instrument set to respond fast. If they would add a parameter to adjust the breath response time it would be much better. Maybe they did already with all the MIDI curves you can set, but I agree with you, that UI could be improved as well. All in all, for the money I paid as an early bird on Kickstarter, it offers a lot. From what I've heard so far, I'm quite sure future production runs will not be as cheap as the initial Kickstarter run.
Glad you enjoyed! Yes, in the settings you can change all kinds of parameters, but it was something that try as I could, I couldn't get it to do what I wanted it to... On the EWI the button to breath threshold to prevent those ghost notes is super handy, so a similar interface would be great.
@Blade1965 - Heh! You have more wind controllers than I do! Well done! 👍Yes, you are right - the €60 price (about 50 quid) is long gone, and Gear4music is asking €157 (£135 ) today and seem to be out of stock ? I mostly use our EWI USB with home-brewed patches in ALSA Modular Synth, an old fave. Just checked Thomann - £125 plus postage and allegedly in stock. Thank you for the informed analysis - whilst I'd like one, that is a lot of grocery vouchers to pay in these troubled times😉.
I’m a Violinist who has never touched the recorder before but I wanna ask some questions Is it hard to get gigs as a recorder player due to the pre conceive notion that Recorder players have in the musical community as an “Beginner instrument” or is it easier due to the nature that not as many people pick up the recorder due to that preconceived notion compared to other more competitive instrument fields. And also, how you feel about the recorder being the beginner instrument of choice compared to other options like the piano, since the Recorder is a wind instrument and the standard alto only uses the treble clef while another instrument like the piano would teach both clefs and more reading ability and is also the standard for teaching any form of music.
I've been using the re,corder since I received my Kickstarter unit last year, and I have found the solution to the apparent latency issue. It has to do with an additional bit of processing that tries to determine a velocity value from the initial attack of a note. A bit of common sense will tell you that this is generally pointless for an instrument which relies on a continuously changing stream of values for expression - you don't *want* the initial level to determine the overall volume of a note or legato phrase! In MIDI Settings, a Velocity value of zero forces this processor-intensive and time-consuming calculation to occur for each new note event. All other velocity values bypass this process and use a single fixed value, so it makes sense to set Velocity to full (127) and let your continuous breath pressure determine the dynamics. Problem solved! 😄
Thank you for this review, very helpful for me. I've just seen those on the market, but not for 60E. More like 180E. I think the best feature is the possibility to play on headphones at night 😊
The acoustic sound comes across as thin (and maybe scratchy?) to me. Edited to add that the electronic options sound cool. Maybe this has lots of scope for modern music?
Wow! I would like to have one of that kind with midi sounds! I have several questions... What is lowest and highest note? How much is the costa about? Could you sale it please? Dich os verter, the black one you show us first some Months ago or this one? Na ja, ich mag sie so viele! Maybe in Europe it is easy to get it than here in America....is it possible to play the bass, tenor, Alto, sopranino recorders too? Congratulations you have one of that kind! Greetings from Tijuana!
The range is very wide, because, whatever basic range you have set up (I have configured it for three and a half octaves), you can shift that range up or down several octaves at the touch of a button (two buttons actually). Basically, if you are using it as a midi controller, you can play anything from as low as a contra-bassoon to as high as a piccolo or glockenspiel. I think that the full possible range is 10 octaves, but I can't swear to that.
I'm very confused. I don't understand where the orchestral sound is coming from. Is it audio output of your tablet? And how are you recording that sound? Direct audio connection to audio interface unit on a computer running Audacity? Or some DAW? Or, are you recording on software (perhaps Garage Band) running on the tablet? Or are you feeding the audio output of your tablet to a powered speaker and the sound in the room is recorded by internal microphone of your camera? Also, does this work on both PCs and MACs? Anyway, I can imagine that professional musicians like yourself who are familiar with studio recording and editing techniques might enjoy such an instrument, but it seems much too complex to be useful for an average music hobbyist. Is it Bluetooth? Perhaps it would help if you presented exactly how it is set up and how it operates.
I agree with you on the notation approximations. As a string musician, that's extremely annoying. Tempos aren't marked, no time signature, and you can't apply a metronome if you want to. No to mention, as a composer, where you can go to create a score of music in the app, it's too literal. If you stop for some time, it will actually count the rest. I guess that's good if you're making a recording in one go, but not good if you are only recording a part. And once again... NOT TEMPO, TIME SIGNATURE MARKS, OR METRONOME FUNCTION. I guess I can always check this for myself, but I'm already not completely pleased. But other than that, it seems good.
I can't say the sound of this flute gives me even a wish to play. But it can be very useful to play other parts and other instruments and mix them with real expensive Rottenburg or similar German recorder. The possibility to write down the notes is interesting for writing down improvisation and codas. This idea to downgrade a royal instrument to school one .... Probably an idea of franmasons :-)😂 Music for all...
I was an "early bird orderer" and already have mine - and it's fun. I totally agree to Sarahs comments (especially the notation irritates me), still struggeling a bit with the bluetooth connections and the best settings. This also depends on the phone/tablet you use. - By the way, Sarah, there's an extra cord to attach the little "mute" plastic to the neck strap (so you won't lose it :-) .
you are exactly right. re.corder is a MIDI over BLUETOOTH controller, therefore it can be used with any DAW and external midi sound source ua-cam.com/video/xuWZp4qaF2g/v-deo.html
Great video. Would you recommend this or the Carry-On Digital Wind Instrument you recently reviewed? I know the Carry-On has built-in sounds and a speaker, but would you really use them instead of a MIDI-triggered sound on your phone or computer? Thanks.
🙏🧡💚👌this video have two years so I think all answers were given. You have all problems that experiencing Keyboard players using a normal computer and an app, without a musical dedicated sound device. Sound coming from a app is a binary code, so need to be decoded, to become a sound, that why Steinberg had created a specific driver for specific external sound devices, indeed not included into a computer. You have different brands, but it is not the midi wich is the latency problem number one it can't be eared. You need between your computer and your recorder this interface communicating in usb mostly, to the computer side and the app, wich must be ASIO compatible (it's the driver name), but we suppose it is, or Apple has developed their proper drivers included in their system, but you need already the external sound device and install everything properly, making the setup on your computer. Latency and be set shorter depending of your system. But if set too shorter, your system will not work properly. Midi is not transmitting sounds at all, it's an electro optical way to communicate between your app and your recorder or keyboard, for thing like note, not duration, velocity, after touch sometimes, and seem's here it works, vibrato, and lot others parameters, air pressure, captors, different setting in the app of the recorder. Midi is a programmable communication, so you can have a lot of parameters giving the ability of way more parameters setting to change the way your recorder send the information, just like midi controller keyboards. The way sound is directed in a computer is a waste, so as I building my mobile music studio, I brought soprano and Tenor baroque recorders to play through an enter in the modular system, wich will analogically transform the Sound. But this device is very interesting in your hands, lot of creativity, and can be for me complementary to my improvisations. Most old synths had a. Buccal pressure device, but here it's not the same, you can play normally. Counter side, this uses your two hands. And as the recorder itself is analogic, the app is numeric, and I buy only analogic electronic instruments
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Midi instruments never cease to surprise and delight me when an unexpected voice comes out of a package I have a preconceived notion about.
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I'd say the developers got a totally cracking deal by sending you the re.corder. All that expert feedback ? Basically getting a consultant for free.
But what is really impressive is Sarah's openness and enthusiasm. No elitism here , sneering or otherwise.
Aww thanks, that’s lovely to hear :)
you're absolutely right, we'll be eternally grateful to Sarah for her precious advices and the time she's invested in making this video. Grazie Sarah... if you ever come to Italy remember about us and please, be our guest :)
Sarah, you're a smile-maker, a first class musician and a real lady for a real world. I love that digital wonder. I used to have a "digital horn" which I interfaced to my synthesiser via midi. Sadly, burglars relieved me of it.
@@artinoise Well done Artinoise this is such an amazing and versatile instrument, and thank you Sarah for giving them your valuable feedback in order to help them to refine it, I'm off to put my name on the waiting list... 👍😉
You know, it now comes with a second mute-tap in case you loose the first one? ;-) Did ypu clean THW recorder, I know it is a stupid question, but the stick that was delivered along with it barely fits in the re.corder and if I add any Kind of small tissue it won't enter at all. Would be glad for any advice. Tried the one from my sopranino but it is too short...
Amyway thanks for the great Video without it I would have never known about it...
I had never heard about it ... You can always depend on Sarah to keep us up to date on anything recorder related ... thanks Sarah!
I have a re.corder (from the kickstarter). I agree with everything Sarah said, especially regarding the latency and the lack of explanation to the menus.
The most important thing to me is, although it's very impressive, this is NOT a wind instrument. It's a MIDI controller using your breath and your finger positions, etc. A real recorder, like any wind instrument, is exquisitely sensitive to your breath - the pitch changes when you blow harder or softer, and it "speaks" when you use your tongue to articulate (ta-da-da or whatever). This thing is not, and I have some difficulty with complex rythms. It's a bit like the difference between your own arm and a bionic arm if you've had your arm amputated. The bionic arm might be a lot stronger, but nobody would cut off their arm to get one!
Excuse me I have a question ... but when you play, the sound comes out of the flute or the phone
@@alessandropozzi9575 It can be played as an ordinary recorder, but not a very good one!
The normal way to play is as a MIDI controller. Each hole is equipped with sensors (2 for the thumb-hole), plus there is a sensor measuring how hard you blow - you have to put on a mute that redirects air to the sensor. The on-board CPU sends a stream of notes through a bluetooth connection to an app on your phone or PC, which in turn is in charge of generating the notes.
Don't get me wrong, if a breath-controlled MIDI controller is what you want it's very good value, and it's quite fun to be able to switch between a flute, an oboe, a sax or a cello. But it's a completely different thing from any of those instruments in real life.
@@gerardvila4685 Ok Thanks!
so basically in theory it would be easier to learn than the basic recorder ?
Is there, to your knowledge, an alternative electronic recorder that does a better job of being sensitive to your breath and fine finger subtleties?
So first off, you are just adorable. I love your enthusiasm!! This really is a cool idea, especially since most electronic wind instruments are useless without power or a battery- being able to play it acoustically is a game changer here.
Absolutely brilliant review! Nothing left to wonder about, Sarah has answered everything you'd want to know, and more!
Loved the demo of Sicilienne, I'm doing that piece for my senior recital for trumpet and you don't see it too terribly often, especially outside of strings.
It’s a beautiful piece isn’t it!
Looks like a kazoo; sounds like a first generation Casiotone. Obviously I totally want one. :-)
Casio put out the amazing CasioHorn, which looked like a kind of a Sax, but had recorder fingering. And: it sounded like a Casio, but was also MIDI equipped.
Sarah, I love your reviews partly because you give such good, constructive criticism pointing out where improvements can be made. Your videos are 🔥
Yamaha: piano can play as recorder.
Artinoise: Well, now recorder can play as piano. All in balance!
If the recorder played as trumpet, it would be like you were playing a Cornett.
it was about time for the recorder's revenge :)
What about my kazoo???
@@AMPProf Crumhorns sound like kazoos, don’t they?
Hi Sarah, my 'earlybird' re.corder has just arrived and so far I'm delighted. Less plasticky and toy-like than I half-expected. Your review definitely helped to convince me. It seems that they listened to you! My mute plug has a little clip that clips it firmly to the lanyard when not in use. Good work.
I am a guitarist and synth player. you demonstrate this very well and make me want one.
Thank you for the detailed informations about the new re.corder!
Definitely, I want one. Thanks for the detailed review.
I just discovered your channel and I'm not musical myself so I live vicariously through those that are and I just wanted to say that you a a joy to watch. Thanks for putting great information out there on an oft under appreciated instrument!
It occurs to me that I am not the target market for this, but it is still pretty cool. 👍
This is a brilliant and fun review, I am waiting patiently for my Re.corder to be dispatched and look forward to some more performances from you :-)
I just bought a yamaha recorder and I must say the sound is so much better than the cheap brandless recorder I had bought about 12 years ago!
Yes this is it! The death metal recorder exsist!
Back in the 90s, I had an idea for a heavy rock recorder song/album/career. I think I wrote the intro to one song before abandoning it as everyone was telling me it was a terrible idea.
@@surfdigby Not a bad idea.
Thanks for sharing your detailed expert observations!
Well it took almost 40 years, but finally the mystery why they call this instrument a"recorder" and not a "flute" has been revealed... tx for that!
It's called a recorder from the Italian word "ricorda", meaning "remember", from the time when the instrument was used by singers to memorize the melodies for what we usually call _Gregorian Chants_
@@YozhikvTumane Tx! That's what I call information! So thank you for explaining 😃 grazie!
@@OndrejPopp It's also been said that the name comes from bringing the instrument outside to replicate and "remember" the melodies sung by birds
Superb review. I'm sold on getting one of these when they're generally available. FWIW, as a software developer, I'd appreciate all the specific critiques as valuable input for future revisions / iterations.
I imagine the strap is for kids who are otherwise bound to drop what is a presumably more delicate instrument than a $5 plastic soprano?
I've been following the noise around these re.corders for a while. As someone who is still very much learning to play this would be convenient, less worries about bothering housemates/neighbours (oh, how frequently I would still prefer to practice/play after coming home from an evening shift!)
9:15 nice function! Finally I could play some duets by myself :D
Thanks for the review. Hopefully we'll have one someday. 👍🙂
It look really really fun
For tech people who are not musicians, latency is basically the same as delay or slow reaction. Not delay in music, a different type of delay.
Cool! Greetings from Brazil
Very nice and comprehensive review! I wonder if part of the woes in the feeling comes from the underlying synthesizer (sound banks, etc) and not the app or the HW itself. For that price I will definitely put it on my follow list!
Is it possible to switch it to recorders in F, and maybe in G too? That would be interesting.
Also adding ancient wind instruments like cornetts and serpents, shawms, dulcians, raketts etc. would be nice, after all that's a thing which many recorder players look for too.
My intuition tells me that's likely to come in an app update.
@@lua-nya I hope so it is.
Yes, it is completely possible. There are two ways to do it: the fingering is completely configurable so you can define it as you wish; there is also a "transpose" feature that allows you to move the sounded pitch up or down a semitone at a time as much as a full octave in either direction - this can be done in seconds, whereas setting up a whole new fingering will take quite a few minutes.
Ok, ok. I want one. Now.
I now know the price! You were dead wrong! It is 180 Euro, not 62. Three times the price you mentioned.
I would like to ask a question before purchasing.
1. Is this product capable of adding recordings to a device connected via Bluetooth?
2. Does the product itself make a sound?
3. If there is sound from the product, is it possible to record through Bluetooth connection at the same time?
Great review ! I bought one, on the back of this video, and I love that I can play a rich mellow sound on a descant recorder :) There's no latency when you use it to drive a synth rather than using the app, just an infinite variety of expressive sounds. It's just fabulous for £120. I'd recommend using it with a CraftSynth 2.0
You can get rid of the latency in the app too by going into settings, then sensitivity and (a) changing the threshold to 'LOW' and (b) setting the velocity to 127.
Ooh, I'd buy one of these if I could afford it.
Thanks for uploading this. As a Kickstarter backer I got my re.corder a couple of weeks ago, and excitedly tried it out. My review of it started off exactly the same as yours - including the good range, the misplaced bottom hole, the uneven latency, and the nonsense rhythms in the play-along tunes. I too thought it was a decent prototype but not a finished instrument.
However... on the Android app, the electronic sounds are completely unusable. Notes sound less than half of the time, and fingerings above an A simply don't work. I've been playing for nearly 30 years, and I couldn't get more than 8% on the beginner level because the notes simply weren't working.
Your review has persuaded me to dig it out again and try on some other devices, or else get back to Artinoise for a replacement. Here's hoping I can get it to work as well as yours, at least.
Philip, please send us an email and report your problems with the instrument, it's very important to us, especially at this early stage. Hopefully we can sort out most of your issues and if that's the case give you a replacement. Hear from you soon
@@artinoise Thanks for your response. I'll try it with an iOS device when I have time this weekend and see if I can get it working better, then send you an email with some details.
@@philiphowie5301 thank you, please send the email to appsupport@artinoise.com - the musictech guys are usually very quick in their responses
Have you tried again lately? I'm using the android app and it works fine for me.
great review..... but played this over 3 years too? What is the lifespan of the lipo? You can't chanced the lipo easily. So after 3 years this flute is dead?
I like to buy this but 150 is to expensive for a recorder when its dead over 3/4 years...
Maybe I am wrong?
Sarah did you have to pay for this recorder?
The inline vibrato may be because the midi file has to be as lighter as possible, so it is repeating the same file one and another. And one thing I notices is that is out of tune. Very imperceptible, but out of tune at last. Very interesting video. Regards from Buenos Aires
Why do you say it is out of tune? It is tuned to standard concert pitch, A4 = 440Hz. I play mine with pre-recorded backing tracks as well as with backing tracks I have recorded myself and, using the octave shift functionality, from C2 to C8 and it always sounds perfectly in tune to me. My KORG electronic tuner says that it is in tune too.
@@adolforodolfo6929 it´s very difficult for me giving an answer in english. When a tune is played, it starts with a note and it finishes whit a semi semi note of difference. It´s very imperceptible, but it´s what I hear. In fact, I noticed that most of the samplers have the same problem. It´s not a human error. I think thet is about how samplers are played back
Instrument very interesting
Tone very funny
Overall very very nice. Would defenetly try it👍
Looks nice, but unfortunately the advertised price at the website is Euro 180. Probably worth it, but not something you spend to give it a try.
I took the risk - I would say it is definitely worth it.
Very interesting & amazingly low price! Does it have an audio out or does that come from the computer only or both? So if you have midi out on the PC I take it you can use the re.corder to play midi synths with it then? How does the PC receive from it? Is there a special USB stick that picks signals up using Bluetooth or something?
The re.corder doesn't produce sound itself - it sends signals to whatever it is connected to - phone/Ipad/PC and that device produces the sound. Yes, you can use it to play midi synths. The re.corder only connects with devices via Bluetooth - it can't be "wired in".
I am in love
Nice!
Does it have a headphone\aux jack?
Yes :)
Well it's out now and you can buy one - I just got one for €145 from Thomann.
Any good?
I really like it. I have got an EWI 5000 as well and it's not in the same ball park. But it does have an accelerometer, which is fun and seems to work pretty well. @@spiceybadger
Interesting instrument. I see a big disadvantage: while it supports standard MIDI over BLE (Bluetooth), which is available on laptops, smartphones and tablets, using various operating systems, the app (where specific settings can be made) is only available for Apple devices. So android, Windows users can't configure it, it can only be used as a standard Bluetooth MIDI controller.
Works perfectly with Android!
Excellent, so on their homepage, the promised Android support is launched. Well, I think I should book one...
@@thpeti It also works with Windows 10.
What is the technique used in min 2:45? And the name of the piece?!?!?
knowing nothing about recorders .. but do know when I see an excellent review
For this price point, I'd get it just for the instant note taking alone. You can work out the timing later.
Hello!
First I want to say you're totally awesome, with beautiful enthusiasm and expert information!
I want to add the Android app performs very well on a very wide range of devices! Since a couple of relesase Android has a way to prioritize the audio and our app uses it as possible. In some cases it even exceed iOS performance (iOS put a 'cap' on the speed at which bluetooth messages are handled). Your experience may vary with your phone/OS version but up to now we had very few latency complaint on both platform. As Sarah points out, the 'recorder' sound itself is responsible, it has a very long attack time, we are going to substitute it soon with a more prompt sample!
@@soundmachines7429 Thanks for your answer. Understood! I also want to point out that my information dated quite a bit.
@@soundmachines7429 can you recommend a better soundfont to use ? I am testin the recorder with apps.apple.com/dk/app/sequencism/id1240952241?l=da
The little clip which blocks the air hole will definitely get lost. Should be a permanently mounted sliding cover or something like that.
The manual shows how to connect it to the lanyard - but I agree a spare one would be obvious
Midi in fact is not the easy subject you think it is.
I really suggest that you read a few books purely about midi and thevrange ofbthing that can be done using it.
When you consider that a pipe organ is a wind instrument, and the biggest pipe organ has 8000 pipes, all controlable at the same time by midi it may start to dawn just how complicated midi really is.
I got involved in this subject when it first came to light , and to explain it turned out to be one of the hardest things i have done in what has been a liftime in music because its not just one thing, its not just having 16 channels, there are a whole load of things within the channel control that also take place at the same time.
My impression of the recorder was that the sampled sounds could do with beingva lot more realistic, a good example of this is one of my keyboards has twenty eight versions of piano alone, plus the fact that i can via midi change the sound even more if i wish plus having a 16 channel sequencer on board as well.
I agree with you about unwanted delay with breath control but it seems that all the manufacturers of electronic instruments have tge same problem, All in all i was quite impressed with such a small instrument, they are heading in the right direction.
Yes, midi is a big subject. The re.corder comes with about 20 instruments, all of which are OK, although some are better than others. The app is designed to be user friendly (which it is) and to provide a range of voices suited to the re.corder. The instrument can also be used as a midi controller, meaning that it is not at all limited to the voices on the app - but then, yes, the user does have to develop some midi literacy to get the most out of it.
Dope!
How about the material? Is it easy to broken? Because my standard recorder able to survive falling from second floor
The manual says to NOT drop it - I didn't test it out 😅
@@Team_Recorder alright that's understanable 😂👍
The plastic is pretty tough, but the electronics are delicate - so it's not a good idea to throw it out of a second floor window 😁
“And we’ve got a lanYAWD.”
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The built in sounds from the re.corder app did not sound very authentic. It might sound better if you send the midi to another app with better midi sound files.
Anyone know the proposed release date?
this looks cool. sure wish it had come out before i spent all my stimmy money :(
I've been following this with interest. The main area that interests me is the ability to use headphones so you can practise silently. To listen to someone play the same passage over and over must be really annoying and can stop the learner from playing, but if you can plug headphones in, perfect!
This was my main reason for backing this on Kickstarter. Still waiting for delivery, so excited to get this! The one note on using headphones is you want to have a device you can plug the headphones in directly. My understanding is bluetooth headphones would introduce more latency.
@@laurameier4482 bluetooth headphones, oh no thanks. I have a pair and though they're great for listening to music I bought a dongle and tried them with my digital piano. The delay was so bad it was unplayable
Yes, you can use headphones to practise silently. When playing digitally, with the mute plug in, the re.corder itself doesn't produce any sound; the sound is produced via the app on your phone, Ipad, PC, whatever you have connected the re.corder to via bluetooth - so you just plug your headphones into the device in question, not into the re.corder. And you're right - don't use bluetooth headphones or you will get significant latency problems.
@@adolforodolfo6929 sounds like its still using Bluetooth to connect to your phone, tablet etc
@@LarryShone Yes, absolutely, that is the only way it can connect to anything - it can't be wired in, it doesn't have a USB connection capability.
fun fact abt me i just started playing recorder 1 week ago and learnd 2 songs ! bc of sarah
@Emilie T. Bühler I started last week bc I had to get a recorder never new how much I would live it
Awwww yay that’s lovely to hear! ❤️
@@Team_Recorder yw im in shock that u replied to Me aaa welll i love u and your videos already
Yeaaa I got my recorder singe Wednesday the 31st of March. It is the plastic baroque recorder in renaissance-look. I love Sarah's channel since it is so inspirational.
Ehe trigger of buying the recorder was singe ny clarinet broke and needs a repair. So why not learning a new instrument and it' s really fun
In acoustic mode, it sounds more like an Irish whistle to me than a recorder, so it's like a pennywhistle with recorder fingerings.
2:19
If they added software to produce microtones and historical scales it would be great.
Sarah drops strap "I'm living life on the edge"
:')
That was a valuable review, both for consumers and developers. This product excites me at that price point. Over 30 years ago, I enjoyed playing the Casio DH-100, and this product has much more potential for fun. If Artinoise makes your suggested improvements, I'd like to form a postmodern Devo with all bandmates playing a re.corder. Imagine what fun we'd have!
@Chris Brisson - Casio DH-100! Yes! I loved that, but 'had' to give it to my young cousin whose enthusiasm for it was overwhelming. That had very good breath control, using a sensor that looked like a small loudspeaker with a plastic cone. The cone was displaced by the back-pressure, and the electronics detected this. Very effective.
There is a downloadable manual in the help section. I was a kick starter backer and have mine, it’s good for silent practice when insomnia hits 🙂
COME ORDINARE IL FLAUTO?
COME ORDINARE IL FLAUTO?
Wow , I never have imagined that this re.corder exists lol
The main problem I heard with that recorder sample (not the actual tone of the instrument played acoustically, the electronic version of it) is that they built the attack into each note, and it takes a fraction of a second to bloom.. and then when it does, it has a bit of Ian Anderson-style second-harmonic overblowing in it. Every. Time. You hit. The note. That fraction of a second before it blooms could actually be the source of what you're hearing as latency issues with that voice - you say you didn't experience it with, say, the guitar voice. Otherwise.. a €69 Lyricon? Yeah sign me up!
Exactly!
How FUN!!! I'm on the waiting list. I've been a recorderplayer for 50 years, and find this very cool. (I also have an Orba from Artiphone, love playing with music and sounds. )
Definitely looks like it could be a fun substitute for the Akai EWI.
Finally, after ~3 months of strugling with latency (Re.Corder & Android), I have "solved" (bypassed) this issue → with external "MIDI BLE to USB" dongle ("WIDI bud Pro") + pocket MIDI soundModule ("Midiplus MiniEngine"), connected through 3,5mm Line-OUT to active repro.
♫ And voil'a: now we have an instant "GeneralMIDI" audio output (128 instruments + reverb), without any "computer" (Android, Apple, Windows, etc.) ... and most importantly → without any noticeable LATENCY (y) 😊
While I wait and wait and wait for mine to arrive (I was an early backer) ... I appreciate your review. As someone that has worked with sampling, I'm pretty sure the problem with the recorder sounds and latency has to do with the actual recorder samples (which are sub-par) ... They ought to hire you for a recording session and get some quality samples in there. :-)
That's super affordable for what it is (that's about $75 usd or something.) I could see it being used for a wide range of recorder players. It could be fun new learning tool for students, a creative new tool for musicians, great for sound effects, used in performances... Hopefully they take these critiques into consideration before they send it to market and come out with a banging product. this looks super cool
Yes, I’d love to use it with students! Would be so fun!
Can you recommend re.corder to practice with headphones to avoid disturbing my neighbors. Will skills gained in this way be applicable to a regular recorder?
I was wondering the same thing.
@@mrs.kencade7372 I have come to it the other way round; I have been playing the regular recorder for many many years - now I have a re.corder as well. I would say that the answer to your question is yes for some aspects of recorder playing, but no for some others. The default fingering is basically the same (although the bottom hole is not offset as it is on a conventional recorder) and you can tongue as you do on a conventional recorder, so those are two things you can definitely practise in silence. But when you are playing the re.corder digitally, as you have to if you want to listen through headphones, then there are some differences compared to a conventional recorder, basically with regard to tonguing and breath. Playing digitally, you can't produce any kind of "percussive" effects through tonguing; you just start or stop the sound, you can't alter that sound in any way by tonguing hard or soft. Breath is perhaps more important; the re.corder will not drop pitch if you blow too softly, nor will it go sharp if you blow too hard - it will always produce the same (correct) pitch, it will just be quieter or louder. This makes it easier to play in some ways, because you only have to get your fingering right to produce the right note - you don't have to change your breath force for the high and low registers. So in that respect it's not a substitute for practice on a "real" recorder. My own view is that it's not worth buying the re.corder merely as another conventional recorder that has the advantage of being mutable - it's really an electric instrument in its own right and, as such, is easily worth the asking price.
No need to apologise, I'm sure they knew they were sending their re.corder to a very competent professional!
And what a great review!!!
I had dabbled with the idea of buying one of these thingies, there are other midi electronics around, but they are hugely expensive and they have one gazillion functions I will never use because I'm just an amateur and not a composer.
Then I saw some previews of this instrument and thought, yes, but how does it work?
And now, thanks to Sarah, I know.
I was attracted by the idea of a midi instrument based on the recorder - not with its own fingerings but with recorder's fingerings. The learning section would also be great for me. The midi section I don't need but I'm sure others might like it.
I am a bit put off by the problems you mention and I do hope they amend them because the price is great and I'd buy one on the spot.
Yeah, hopefully they take notice of Sarah's criticisms. They some like they are mostly software related so they should be able to fix everything or add some kind of software toggle options (like to turn auto-vibrato on or off). They may need to modify the midis a bit to make them seem more responsive, but that sound be something they can easily do at this point.
I like these new wind instruments because you can control the sound so you don't disturb family or neighbors while you practice.
Also: re.corder's Bluetooth MIDI connects to zillions of responsive MIDI synths and samplers, with plenty of modulation possibilities.
Just heard about this at NAMM and got one. It’ll be my first MIDI instrument.
This channel is one of the most joyful experiences you can have on UA-cam, whether you play the recorder or not!
I can see the mute hingeing upward to be clicked into place away from the labium, because you're right -- that thing is waiting to get lost.
Did Artinoise actually take some of your improvement suggestions on board? Or are they still selling the original version you had?
That was my question too and I wondered how to find out. Will you be informed, Sarah? That could be the game changer for me.
A thorough and clear review - far better than most on UA-cam. Good job!
Sarah, that's what I call a good review. BTW, you can use the small lanyard loops that came with it to attach the mute to the instrument, so you won't lose it. It says so in the manual ;-)
I bought my re.corder through the Kickstarter campaign to add another windcontroller to my 18 piece collection. I've been a sax player for decades before converting to windcontrollers a few decades ago. I've never played the recorder, so I'll have to learn the fingerings. For me it was just a gimmick to add to the collection and never intended to be used regularly. I have more professional windcontrollers for that. However, I was pleasantly surprised by what my €60 got me. I have more expensive windcontrollers with less features. When latency is too high, it's unusable as an instrument. I have noticed some latency with the re.corder. You make some great observation when pointing out the attack of the sound patch. Since you can play the piano patch without latency, the Bluetooth connection isn't causing the issue. I would suspect they intentionally increased the breath response time to prevent glitches (unintended ghost notes) that are so common when playing an electronic wind instrument set to respond fast. If they would add a parameter to adjust the breath response time it would be much better. Maybe they did already with all the MIDI curves you can set, but I agree with you, that UI could be improved as well. All in all, for the money I paid as an early bird on Kickstarter, it offers a lot. From what I've heard so far, I'm quite sure future production runs will not be as cheap as the initial Kickstarter run.
Glad you enjoyed! Yes, in the settings you can change all kinds of parameters, but it was something that try as I could, I couldn't get it to do what I wanted it to... On the EWI the button to breath threshold to prevent those ghost notes is super handy, so a similar interface would be great.
@Blade1965 - Heh! You have more wind controllers than I do! Well done! 👍Yes, you are right - the €60 price (about 50 quid) is long gone, and Gear4music is asking €157 (£135 ) today and seem to be out of stock ? I mostly use our EWI USB with home-brewed patches in ALSA Modular Synth, an old fave. Just checked Thomann - £125 plus postage and allegedly in stock. Thank you for the informed analysis - whilst I'd like one, that is a lot of grocery vouchers to pay in these troubled times😉.
Can you create you own tutorial in the app...for example, your own composition?
I’m a Violinist who has never touched the recorder before but I wanna ask some questions
Is it hard to get gigs as a recorder player due to the pre conceive notion that Recorder players have in the musical community as an “Beginner instrument” or is it easier due to the nature that not as many people pick up the recorder due to that preconceived notion compared to other more competitive instrument fields.
And also, how you feel about the recorder being the beginner instrument of choice compared to other options like the piano, since the Recorder is a wind instrument and the standard alto only uses the treble clef while another instrument like the piano would teach both clefs and more reading ability and is also the standard for teaching any form of music.
BOTH clefs? You speak as if there are only two clefs! Advanced recorder players know more clefs than most pianists do.
@@RustyBobbins Actually, each size of recorder needs to be able to play from several clefs--though admittedly one at a time, as you rightly point out.
@@RustyBobbins Range ≠ Clefs.
Also, there are instruments that play outside the piano's range.
@@RustyBobbins also, the c Clefs are never used for piano. And mensural and Gregorian Clefs, nonwestern Notation, and more
Thanks for playing Maria Theresa von Paradis!
What's the price
The price is 180,00 €... Frankly, too much! What do you think?
It's not too much, given what it can do - only some of which is covered in this video.
I've been using the re,corder since I received my Kickstarter unit last year, and I have found the solution to the apparent latency issue.
It has to do with an additional bit of processing that tries to determine a velocity value from the initial attack of a note. A bit of common sense will tell you that this is generally pointless for an instrument which relies on a continuously changing stream of values for expression - you don't *want* the initial level to determine the overall volume of a note or legato phrase!
In MIDI Settings, a Velocity value of zero forces this processor-intensive and time-consuming calculation to occur for each new note event. All other velocity values bypass this process and use a single fixed value, so it makes sense to set Velocity to full (127) and let your continuous breath pressure determine the dynamics.
Problem solved! 😄
Amazing!!! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for this review, very helpful for me. I've just seen those on the market, but not for 60E. More like 180E. I think the best feature is the possibility to play on headphones at night 😊
The acoustic sound comes across as thin (and maybe scratchy?) to me. Edited to add that the electronic options sound cool. Maybe this has lots of scope for modern music?
Wow! I would like to have one of that kind with midi sounds! I have several questions... What is lowest and highest note? How much is the costa about? Could you sale it please? Dich os verter, the black one you show us first some Months ago or this one? Na ja, ich mag sie so viele! Maybe in Europe it is easy to get it than here in America....is it possible to play the bass, tenor, Alto, sopranino recorders too? Congratulations you have one of that kind! Greetings from Tijuana!
The range is very wide, because, whatever basic range you have set up (I have configured it for three and a half octaves), you can shift that range up or down several octaves at the touch of a button (two buttons actually). Basically, if you are using it as a midi controller, you can play anything from as low as a contra-bassoon to as high as a piccolo or glockenspiel. I think that the full possible range is 10 octaves, but I can't swear to that.
I'm very confused. I don't understand where the orchestral sound is coming from. Is it audio output of your tablet? And how are you recording that sound? Direct audio connection to audio interface unit on a computer running Audacity? Or some DAW? Or, are you recording on software (perhaps Garage Band) running on the tablet? Or are you feeding the audio output of your tablet to a powered speaker and the sound in the room is recorded by internal microphone of your camera? Also, does this work on both PCs and MACs? Anyway, I can imagine that professional musicians like yourself who are familiar with studio recording and editing techniques might enjoy such an instrument, but it seems much too complex to be useful for an average music hobbyist. Is it Bluetooth? Perhaps it would help if you presented exactly how it is set up and how it operates.
Super cool!
Please attach the labium inset to the recorder semi permanently.
I agree with you on the notation approximations. As a string musician, that's extremely annoying. Tempos aren't marked, no time signature, and you can't apply a metronome if you want to. No to mention, as a composer, where you can go to create a score of music in the app, it's too literal. If you stop for some time, it will actually count the rest. I guess that's good if you're making a recording in one go, but not good if you are only recording a part. And once again... NOT TEMPO, TIME SIGNATURE MARKS, OR METRONOME FUNCTION. I guess I can always check this for myself, but I'm already not completely pleased. But other than that, it seems good.
Ah there is a metronome function, if you put that on then you can play it in, in time!
@@Team_Recorder that's good then.
Good GRACIOUS! Lord bless the inventor of this instrument forever! I simply and absolutely love its versatility! 🌸🌸🌸✨✨
I can't say the sound of this flute gives me even a wish to play. But it can be very useful to play other parts and other instruments and mix them with real expensive Rottenburg or similar German recorder. The possibility to write down the notes is interesting for writing down improvisation and codas. This idea to downgrade a royal instrument to school one .... Probably an idea of franmasons :-)😂 Music for all...
I was an "early bird orderer" and already have mine - and it's fun. I totally agree to Sarahs comments (especially the notation irritates me), still struggeling a bit with the bluetooth connections and the best settings. This also depends on the phone/tablet you use. - By the way, Sarah, there's an extra cord to attach the little "mute" plastic to the neck strap (so you won't lose it :-) .
Ahhhh maybe I should have put on the neck strap!
😁 ....it looks/reminds me of the very first smartphones where you were able to attach little charms/pendants - same system
I think the "built-in vibrato" is a sample looping. If you use this to trigger not the app but a software synthesizer it'll be a lot better.
you are exactly right. re.corder is a MIDI over BLUETOOTH controller, therefore it can be used with any DAW and external midi sound source ua-cam.com/video/xuWZp4qaF2g/v-deo.html
Great video. Would you recommend this or the Carry-On Digital Wind Instrument you recently reviewed? I know the Carry-On has built-in sounds and a speaker, but would you really use them instead of a MIDI-triggered sound on your phone or computer? Thanks.
🙏🧡💚👌this video have two years so I think all answers were given. You have all problems that experiencing Keyboard players using a normal computer and an app, without a musical dedicated sound device. Sound coming from a app is a binary code, so need to be decoded, to become a sound, that why Steinberg had created a specific driver for specific external sound devices, indeed not included into a computer. You have different brands, but it is not the midi wich is the latency problem number one it can't be eared. You need between your computer and your recorder this interface communicating in usb mostly, to the computer side and the app, wich must be ASIO compatible (it's the driver name), but we suppose it is, or Apple has developed their proper drivers included in their system, but you need already the external sound device and install everything properly, making the setup on your computer. Latency and be set shorter depending of your system. But if set too shorter, your system will not work properly. Midi is not transmitting sounds at all, it's an electro optical way to communicate between your app and your recorder or keyboard, for thing like note, not duration, velocity, after touch sometimes, and seem's here it works, vibrato, and lot others parameters, air pressure, captors, different setting in the app of the recorder. Midi is a programmable communication, so you can have a lot of parameters giving the ability of way more parameters setting to change the way your recorder send the information, just like midi controller keyboards.
The way sound is directed in a computer is a waste, so as I building my mobile music studio, I brought soprano and Tenor baroque recorders to play through an enter in the modular system, wich will analogically transform the Sound. But this device is very interesting in your hands, lot of creativity, and can be for me complementary to my improvisations. Most old synths had a. Buccal pressure device, but here it's not the same, you can play normally. Counter side, this uses your two hands. And as the recorder itself is analogic, the app is numeric, and I buy only analogic electronic instruments