Smoke And Glorious Noises - Budget Built 440 Swap In The "Toolbox" 1973 Dodge Charger
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- In this video: 440 big block swap how-to in an original 1973 318 car; how to install Schumacher conversion engine mounts; modifying the 73+ spool mount K-frame; how to install a torque converter; how to easily align a Mopar flex plate; how to install a classic Mopar drivetrain from above (carefully); custom header fitment (with a torch and a hammer); and much, much more.
It's been almost two years since I sold this 1973 Dodge Charger that I call Toolbox for some reason. In that time, it has slowly been transformed from a complete pile to the glorious machine you see before you. But the mechanical end of things - you know, my department - have been lagging behind the rest of it. So on today's episode, it's time to finally make a drivetrain happen.
This mostly-budget built 440 was originally factory installed in a C-body Chrysler, but later found itself rebuilt for marine use. It then sat in a barn for a decade or two, then behind my old shop for six months (where it almost endured a flood,) and was finally selected as the choice power plant for this Charger. In previous videos, I detailed the original build plan and my home brew cylinder head processes.
Follow along as I make the necessary modifications to mount the 440 onto the late B-body K-frame, drop the engine in, and finally make some smoke. With any luck, it will only be the good kind.
I hated the body style change when those came out. Now all these years later, I see them as maybe the best of that time. They still look modern or even futuristic today. Great looking car!
I didn’t like them at first because they weren’t ‘68-70 and all of the cool muscle car stuff disappeared. But they have really grown on me. They’re good looking cars!
I thought the car still look cool but of course the guts, the performance engines were gone. That’s what always bothered me. It just happened so fast.
Going from arguably the coolest looking car design ever to anything else was not going to go well for Dodge, even without the external global issues going on.
Took me years to like the fuselage body styles, but I’m finally there and enjoy them. Not as much as what came before, but…
Me too! I hated them, but now I think they're sweet. To be fair, I think it's because all the ones I grew up around were those gold ones with the half vinyl tops and column shifted 318s.
Glad to see another beautiful Mopar getting put back on the road. Yay!
It always blows my mind to watch factory films of them jambing a big V8 into a car in a few seconds without doing any damage or catching anything.
That'll be a really nice driver when it's done.
❤ I just started watching your video and 20 seconds into it.., I decided I love your show and that we are brothers from another mother 😂
So my favorite car since I was old enough to know what a real car was.., I fell in love with the 68 dodge charger. I pray often that before I leave this spinning mud ball, that I will be able to own one for myself. I recently found a 1973 SE charger in the woods near my house and took it home 😊. I just picked up a 1978 police Plymouth fury with the 440 in it. I almost feel bad tearing the fury apart for my charger, but I have very little income and Alaska makes it challenging to find parts 😉🤪
I have never done an engine swap or a rebuild, so I guess I will be watching all your videos repeatedly 😂
Thanks for recording all your projects and for liking the same American art and history I do 🇺🇸
This is a cool car. The colour is just right on it.
During High school (82, 83?) my buddy had a 73 Charger SE, 383, cragar mags, a nice blue color, white vinyl top and mirrored tint. THAT was a nice car....ah, memories! (while I still have them)....
We are restoring a Charger SE that mostly matches that description at Rocket where I work part time. It’s pretty awesome.
I had a black, '73 Charger SE. It only had a 318 though. It was black on black.
A buddy of mine also had a 73 Charger SE about that same time, with a 400. Same color combo - blue with the white vinyl top and the louvered quarter windows. It was pretty nice, and with a few mods that 400 was a pretty decent performer.
My black 73 Charger S/E had every option except the cassette deck and a big engine. Mine was a 318. The interior was a black and white houndstooth check buckets with an armrest. I ordered it and was 22 when I did.
@@DeadDodgeGaragehow much would all that cost when you're done?....
And what's the cost to do that to a forward look c body
I worked in a trans shop for years doing R&R work. Easiest way I learned to get a torque converter to go in on any automatic trans is to bump the top of the converter with the palm of your hand and spinning it at the same time. Someone may have already posted this tip but since I don’t have till my next birthday to read thru all the posts…. well, there you go.
Fair enough. Haha. That’s not far off of the wiggle technique I use.
For like ... two years . Your parting wisdom is the best . 👍
One of many services I offer 😅
Kick ass video that motor is sick that’s gonna be a nice car when it’s done
Another tribute to your skills and perseverance! Great video!!! Even greater car!!! Why don't they make em like that anymore, they would sell like ho
Great video. A lot of good info for this generation of cars like mine.
Finding and installing 71 rear bumper brackets on my 73 after it came back from chrome. Yes it made it look soooo much better
The progress you have made on this car is great!
Awesome video! This is exactly what I needed to watch for my 73 charger. I had to send this to my dad. Thank you for keeping the fire of desire going
really like these cars sounds pretty cool nice progress
That thing sounds sick! That thumper cam is 👌
I had a 73 Charger once. It was a 318 car that had been replaced with a 360. It had been painted with a paint roller with red paint that was more pink than red. I pulled up to a red light once and did a most awesome smokey burn out. I eased away from the red light and when the smoke cleared away and to my surprise there was a sheriff behind me. He did absolutely nothing and I just drove away.
😮🤯
👍Looking good. You do great work.
Thank you! I’m trying to do at least an ok job with this one. Haha.
@42:10 this 440 is taking Drum lessons from Alex Van Halen....swear it's doing the opening drum riff from " Hot For Teacher"....Great name for the Car by the way !
Wow...that was awesome! 👏🤟
Thanks for the update. You’ll have that out of the shop in no time! Can’t wait to see you take that for a test drive!
nice work is always good to look at sir. shiney is just really nice.
thank you bringing us along.
I am tempted to move to Oregon just be your helper.
I live in Washington, but close. Haha. I could use a helper, but the hours are long and the pay really sucks 🤣
Awesome car! That bumper modification looks great!👍
Do the longest one first. Good advice whether it's spark plug wires, sheet metal, lumber, or anything. You can reuse your mistakes.
I do to houses roughly what you do to cars.
Sounds good 👍
Yes. 440 very thirsty.
Damn i miss a healthy 440 on open headers
If it says Charger, it's a winner!
Well rain delay for the Gator Nats and a new DDG video to help fill the shop with car noises. Perfect.
As normal a very useful and informative video,we’re just putting a 1970 MGB gt back together after pulling it apart three years ago . The next project will be the 1971 Chrysler 300. 440 .Keep up the good work regards from a very cold and wet England .
I really love watching your videos!
Thank you!
Great Video i also have a 73 originally a 318 car and was swapped with a 440 with a voodoo cam and Keith black internals, wiring was a nightmare when i got it so i got an American auto wire kit and rewired the entire car, i would really like to do a halo top on mine as i think they look more gen2ish with that. keep the videos coming learning a lot
Carefuling...I use that term all the time now that and wow! Thanks guy
Nice Charger, great job.😊
I know it keeps you from having to fight with readjusting the hood when you put it back on
That and the risk of scratches and other damage - and I’m only one guy. If it hadn’t already been aligned and painted I wouldn’t be so against pulling it - but as a general rule, they fit out with the hood in place, so I leave them be.
Nice to see some progress brother good job 😊
Yup can't go wrong with Charger content....yup looking forward to seeing more content and thanks
What a cool idea make a real life Rodger Dodger I'm guessing you collect Hot Wheels as well hence why you know about the car. Rodger Dodger is one of my favorite castings to collect looks like that Charger is about the right color for R. Dodger. Always cool to see another Shadetree guy restore a car and post the progress. I too am currently restoring a 68 Barracuda and posting videos of my progress.
Oh yeah, just a bit of a collector. Haha. Rodger Dodger is pretty obviously based on the opera window Charger - a car that I always thought was kind of ugly, until I realized that! I really want one with a ridiculous rake, zoomies and a blower. It would be so cool.
The dry humor, cracks me up. After 50+ yrs of mopar builds, only comedy gets me through it all. Great job, btw !
Wow, I had 7 Chargers like that, I have a '74 Charger that I'm gonna have a legit clone to Richard Petty's STP/ PETTY ENTERPRISES Dodge Charger!!! I've talked with Mr. Petty about cloning my car, he said to me, "Bring 'er down", we'll do it up!!! Mopar Nate Philadelphia, Pennsylvania!!! You Guys are Awesome
That’s awesome! Jealous. Haha.
I think I had a happy ending. Awesome work you do.
So badass!! Can’t wait for that moment with my coronet
Swapping engines as a kid in my dads shop, the old timers taught me to scribe a line around the hood hinges, and then remove the hood and put in on the roof upside down over a uhaul blanket. When the job was done, the hood would reinstall on those scribes and not have to be readjusted.
I’m well familiar with the technique - but it’s hard to do by yourself.
Well happy Saturday to me !!! A great way to start my afternoon with a Dead Dodge video !!! Cheers Sir 😊
Love the , plum/eggplant color
Of that 73 Dodge Charger 💖
I do like the rear bumper flush with the rear valance/trunk/ quarters
This car is coming out MINT ,
Jamie ‼️🙏
I believe the manufacturer had to space those bumpers outward because of , government mandates for 73 & up
#ToolBoxCharger
Yep. That’s why they did it. There’s no reason we can’t undo it… well, at least no practical reason.
Love this channel
Always a good day when there's a DDG video. This one makes me happy my car came with a big block, even if it is just the baby 361 version.
My 73. 400 has factory radiator, lower hose right hand side of car not that it matters, she is a nice driver. Just saying you were right. Good to be right every now and then.😊
We love oatmeal raisin cookies. Think you have our address from our merch purchase last year or so. Hmmm, should probably check to see if you have added to the merch store…
Very happy to see this update on the Toolbox Charger. It was definitely one of the first projects of yours we found years ago. Although I’m pretty sure your green 4 door Valiant video was the first one I watched.
Where might one get that brake set up you mentioned? That’d be great for my Valiant.
Yes, you’re very consistent, and I mean that in the best way. Thank you for all you do to entertain and inform us.
Haha. Good to know. I see a similar unit from Leeds on Summit. I’m actually not sure where he got this one.
Yup, that sounds awesome! I bet it was loud in person. Glad to see this one coming together. You are the Mopar mad scientist hahaha!
Nice, I hope he has a good summer taking care of the little details. If that’s one of those stainless flex fans, they are right up there with lawn darts.
That good, huh?
This all is just more inspiration to get my lazy butt out in my garage! Great work, Jamie this is gonna be one kick ass car.
It sounds fantastic love the open headers
Dam... Loving that purpleshh color
Great job Jamie!!! Can’t wait to see tire smoke .
Great video Jamie! Makes my back even more sore just watching all that work. Can’t wait to hear the machine gun tips speaking, potato, potato, potato.
I can’t either 😍
With a factory distributor, I remove the fat short advance spring, leaving only the long, thin advance spring. This quickens the advance to roughly the same as the Mopar Performance / Mr. Gasket advance springs. Then the factory vacuum advance is too great, so I don't connect it at all. Some of late production Mopar Performance distributors have an adjustable vacuum advance can, but most of them did not and the advance in them was too much with the quick performance advance springs. he quickened advance made a huge difference in performance. For idle speed, initially I'd back out the idle speed screw out to where it didn't contact the throttle plate lever and then tighten it / screw it in until it just made contact and add two full turns (4 half turns). This places the throttle plates right about where they should be for idle in the carb. With the Mopar Performance distributors, I'd never hook up the vacuum advance, as the mechanical advance max'd out very early in RPM's.
I’ve heard that one. I have done welded recurves, usually keeping the factory springs. I have swapped for two light springs. I have modified the amount of advance available from the vacuum pod. But generally I run without it.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Two performance springs or one factory light spring usually bring all mechanical advance by 2500 - 2800 RPM. With that quick of advance, no part throttle vacuum advance is needed or desired. I measure and mark the balancer lightly with a hacksaw at 34 and 38 degrees and paint white between those lines and then paint the zero mark on the timing cover. I bring the RPM up 3000 RPM or a bit higher and set the total timing between 34 and 38 degrees. 38 degrees will give the most cylinder pressure and torque and 34 degrees is only slightly below in torque, with similar horsepower, while protecting cast pistons. I don't bother to limit the total as I set the timing at the total and leave the vacuum advance disconnected. For camshaft timing, regardless of lobe separation, intake centerline at 106 degrees gives maximum horsepower, while intake centerline at 102 degrees gives maximum torque.
440 sound's really nice. Good Job.
Awesome episode and charger! My first Mopar was a 71’ charger SE plum crazy purple with hideaways and a 440, boy this episode sure makes me miss it! Big block plus the drivers side header, starter, and torsion bars…😑 one must acknowledge the insanity that would compel us to do it more than once…🥴
That sounds awesome. We are hoping to find a nice hideaway setup for this one eventually. Yeah…insanity is a good word 😅
Obviously not needed but jacking the rear of the car up as high as you can get it cuts down the angle when sticking the engine and trans in together and that little bit it lowers the radiator support comes into play. Love the gen3 Chargers, they ride and drive so nice, maybe the best older platform Chrysler made.
That Charger is really coming together nicely, but big block headers are just so damn difficult. Small block headers are bad enough, but the big block just takes the clearance issues to the extreme. Anyway, it will be awesome to see that thing running and driving. And it's much like my 73 Roadrunner, so that's cool.
Sounds like it might be a pretty healthy motor you got yourself,, nice job
Thank you. I think it’s going to do some cool stuff. It sure sounds like it! The sound was honestly all he wanted. Haha.
Nice
Sounds amazing!! Nice work, Jamie!
Really like your work ethic Jamie. Nice!!
Just a tip thats helped me when putting an engine in solo if you put a ratchet strap under the car when putting an engine with a trans the trans will sit on the ratchet strap and slide right in badass 73 btw!
Oh that’s a good one. But that’s basically what I do with the floor jack. I set it at roughly the right height and pivot the drivetrain on that.
I never realized that "valance" could be pronounced with a long "a". 😉 Also, that's a great car. Love how it's coming together.
man that is very clean.
to me, that is much better then this new stuff.
If only that was 11/16" from the center. LOL!
😅
Great b video 🦶🏾
man i enjoyed this episode since its my favorite car of all time ! i know i might sounds weird but my Charger was originally a 318 i did a 400 swap in 2017 in it and convert it to a 4 speeds , the engine sat on the sb k-member in literally 2 minutes (without the tranny) no modification ever done and also at that time didn't knew that there's a difference between them , however when i pulled the 318 i put it in the other Charger which is originally a big block car and used it a parts car , the small block sat in it but not straight.
A commenter told me that flipping factory big block mounts side for side works, which is interesting. If I have an opportunity to try that, I will.
@@DeadDodgeGarage yep heard that too , anyway love your channel and your work man and we can learn alot from guys like you , keep up the good work and please do more videos about this car , greetings from Lebanon
Those 73s didn’t hold a candle to the styling of the 68-70 but still kinda cool in their own weird way. I would have painted it matte black too 👍
I agree that they are not as good looking, but still think they’re very cool. And I find it interesting that another commenter said they were much better than 68-70. Haha.
You’re blowing up my guy! Already 5k views, uploaded 5 hrs ago
Oh yeah, stuff is happening. The “good” videos are getting 10k views in a day now. Not too shabby!
Hey Charger 👍🏻🇦🇺 get her done 😀.
Practice makes prefect.
Nice video bro...by the way you have a good radio/podcast voice. Right, like you'd have time I get it!
I’ve done one episode of my History podcast. I need to do some more of those…
Those Chargers were designed in the wind tunnel for racing. I never knew that until a guy down in Florida was talking about his car. Cool stuff nice car🤠
Yep, that generation of Chargers and Roadrunners were the result of intense competition between Ford and Mopar in NASCAR. First the Hemi dominated, but then Ford came out with the fastback Torino/Mercury Cyclone, and Mopar's "slick as a brick" 68-70 B bodies were losing (enough to where Richard Petty defected to Ford in 1969). Then came the Daytona and Superbird, and they did so well that NASCAR decided to outlaw the whole "aero body" concept. At the same time, Mopar got smart and designed the new 71 B body to be much more aerodynamic than the previous body, and they did very well for most of the 70s, at least until they went back to "slick as a brick" styling in the Malaise era. And that is the history lesson for today.
I saw Richard Petty say in an interview that the best race car he ever drove was these 71-74 Charger shape even better than the Plymouth Superbird.
maybe that's why the bumper sticks out like it does/did? For aerodynamics! I'd change it as well anyway. :)
@@BaronVonSketchy I don't think it was better than the Superbird. It wasn't as aerodynamic, and the rear wing made the car very stable. That said, the Charger was allowed to race for several years, vs. the Superbird that was outlawed after one season.
@@ivoman7 The bumper sticking out was to comply with the 5mph crash impact. That and those huge rubber bumper guards. In any case, the race ready versions didn't have any of that.
Nice conversion, tons of work good job! Ran into same scenario with the mini torq dakota starter install. little did i know at the time there's an extension plate which relocates wires to the front of solenoid to clearance the block. purchased one, then another... guess i'm waiting till my fury burns to the ground before installing. oh well, no time. Looks good!
Yes, there is a terminal extension plate you can buy that improves things. There is actually a shorter factory extension plate often found on them which has to be removed to work on big blocks. Having no extension places the big wire right in the vicinity of that freeze plug and makes it fit - but it’s tight.
I thought about that slant six on the barracuda
Whammy slam -O.
So you installed (A one eye, big block, flying purple people eater)??? Totally not Anused!!! Epic video
Something like that 😅
Oh god I needed that laugh! 20:27 I don't know how many times I have told my wife stuff like that while talking to her on the phone. Like last week when I was using 2 floor jacks, an engine hoist, several blocks of wood stacked up and everything wobbling around as I work each in 1" increments... "I know its sounds super sketch but its not going to hurt you on the other end of the phone!"
Haaahaha. Yep… nice. I may not be the king of sketchy, but I’m definitely one of his subjects
Glad too see somebody else used the same brake booster and master cylinder combo that I used on my b body, makes me feel like I maybe got one thing half way right when converting from manual drums to front disc
Oh yeah, you did. That setup works amazingly well. Better than any stock booster I’ve ever dealt with.
Please tell me more about that booster. Where did you get it?
@@mdumas7856 I got my kit at Classic Performance Products, # 6374CBK-s for the power front disc rear drum kit , Booster kit alone I believe is 6374 Bb24-8 DC , won’t have instructions if you run into trouble , but can call tech help and talk to Eric, hope this helps I’m sure you wanted DDG to answer, but I put this kit on and it truly works great so far, about 1000 miles on it so far, put it on a 68 Satellite
Did the Schumacher deal on a 73 RR put 383 HP in w/8.25 355 drove it from PA to LV school UNLV . Finished bought 71 RR 440 4-speed welded tow bar on back of 73 to front 71.Towed it all the way back to philly.8.25 is much stronger than you think .Just don't put slicks w/4-speed on 8.25. It will be fine for 440 driver.Save 8.75 as your racing rears .Best channel funniest sarcasm you should have a show.Thanks
I know that. That’s what I told the owner. 😁 my Barracuda has an 8.25 with 4.10s (or 4.11 - I can never remember which) that has suffered a decade of burnouts and mayhem under four different owners with a 360 and a four speed. I have had two others in other cars and they have always taken what I throw at them. Then again, so has the 7.25 - but that’s another story. We are changing the gear ratio to 3.55, and it makes more sense to do that with the correct, super wide late B body 8 3/4 housing that we found than with the 8.25. This leaves options open for easy future gear changes, as well as the extra strength.
Sounds healthy ! Should be lots of fun ! If I was spending that kind of money I would be sure it was exactly what I wanted. It would be my dream car . It probably would be a 70 GTX 4sp loaded up ! Convertible if possible.
Boy, I'm sure that's a load off your mind. Congrats.
Big time… can’t wait for it to actually leave. That will be a truly triumphant moment.
Love this video and content - thank you so much for sharing each step as you helped me in getting my 69 Chrysler 300 convertible going. . .just little odds and ends. ..starter size. .. spark plug wires/boots. .
You need Matco hyper step drill bits there not cheap I have them there worth every penny $529what I paid and that's on sale
@davidthomits544 I haven’t seen fit to go for the step bits. Not sure I trust them for plate like this. I guess I should try it. I’m familiar with what they cost. I am still paying Matco $100 a week, and my shop has been closed for a year and a half. My first set of Matco bits were well destroyed when I replaced them with Macs. Now I’ve replaced those with these Irwins, and for the price, I’m happy.
Tip: to slip the boots on the spark plug wires, I've found dish soap is best...and I've tried EVERYTHING.
She's a Beaut Clark. Nice!
My neighbors had a '73 , Yellow with White vinyl top, cragars, and a white bucket seat interior, parked in the driveway in the late '70's.. Sweet, but rusty; never saw it run.
See that distributer turn when she fired up lol
Wizardry
I've had to replace my headers once since I bought my Charger (1973 Rallye 440) in 1976. Hooker Competition headers cleared everything. Still a pain to replace. Car has been garage kept last 30 years. Original paint.
For anything that doesn’t demand maximum horsepower, I can’t recommend the HP manifolds enough. But they’re already there… That’s awesome! Years ago I ogled over one just like yours but yellow on eBay. I have a big soft spot for those cars.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I'm old now (67). I'd love to find the exhaust manifolds to replace the headers. I don't need max power anymore.
Sounds awesome 💪🏼
Great video, but I became exhausted just thinking about all that work.
How do you think I feel?! I’m not even charging hourly for this one!
Look at the Jamie crew,all 2 of them.
Starting to make statements about mopars,and other life issues.
Good ....
Wait there are two of me?
@@DeadDodgeGarage w your brother,maybe.
Close
You guys are gonna take over the world,or at least a part of it.
Congrats on the suscess,find a niche.
You are very mechanically gifted, what is your profession, are you full time UA-camr or do you do another profession 🙏
I owned an independent auto repair shop for seven years. Before that, I sold auto parts, fixed houses, and played music - but I was always tinkering with cars, and had a real passion for it. I started UA-cam in the last year of the shop being in business. When I left there, I went to work part time at a Mopar only restoration shop. In the rest of my time, I service the local fleet of mail trucks, put Mopars together here, fix normal cars for people, and… whatever else needs done, really. So counting UA-cam I have 3+ jobs. Haha.
Oh oh oh! I know this one! Send me my cookie!!! Chocolate chip, please and thank you.
you always do great work mostly working by yourself. makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one that does everything alone. and I Hate headers mostly on torsion bar mopars the drone sound in the cab is so bad everything hits I so prefer big block Manifolds I even thing they sounds better.
Completely agree… that would have been my choice.
Sadly, I hoard way more things than I should - makes it time consuming to actually find something I am looking for lol
I love me some radial TA’s
Effing headers!
Wow, why would you use a shoemocker kit when you just use the factory bigblock spool mounts and flip them around?
You take the driver side and mount that on the passenger side and visa versa for the other.
Its something I learned years ago, especially by dropping a 440 in where the original 360 was that I pulled on a 79 dodge Magnum.
Oh and those exhaust tips you probably know are called Bazooka tips!
Oh, and there's almost nothing better then the factory slapstick shifters.
I actually luv those 73 and 74 chargers, especially the rallye versions.
I don’t think they were ever officially called bazooka tips, but I’ll take your word on that. People also call them “machine gun tips.” Dodge called them N42 Bright Exhaust Tips.
Why would I use the Schumacher kit? Well, one, I’ve done a lot of reading on this sort of thing, but have never seen what you’re talking about before. Two, I don’t have factory big block spool mounts, so we had to buy some anyway. I tried to use factory big block spool mounts on a small block k frame way back in 2014, and learned pretty quickly that it doesn’t work. I didn’t have the thought to try them backwards. I do have to wonder if that plants the engine in exactly the right factory location, at exactly the right height, and in a range that can be leveled correctly - like the Schumacher mounts do. Schumacher makes great stuff, and at $200, it’s money well spent.
I would have much preferred a factory slap stick and console. I even found him a console. But he decided to go this way. I’m a big fan of the ‘73-4 body style too. It’s the perfect blank canvas.
@@DeadDodgeGarage
I know this doesn't matter, but did a quick search, and some article about 71 through 74 roadrunner popped up about the n42 tips. It was a motor trend magazine.
1973 was a landmark year for the Roadrunner-but not in a good way. The standard P-code E68 400 big-block base engine of 1972 was replaced by the G-code E44 318 two-barrel small-block. The optional U-code E86 440 was no longer available with a four-speed, and the optional N96 Air Grabber hood was gone. At least N41 dual exhaust and N42 chrome bazooka tips were still standard on all Road Runners (except for cars sold in California which used dual down-turn tailpipes).
Also, I learned the hard way that flipped mounts was the real deal by other Mopar people.
When younger I had a 73 yellow rallye with the factory black stripes, it came with the 340 but that was set aside for a rebuild. But in it was a hopped up 318, and I got my hands on a 67440 freshly pulled from a imperial and I set it in the engine bay and quickly realized it was going to mount. So that swamp didn't happen. But afterwards when mentioned this to some other mopar friends, they all knew, you should of just flipped the mounts! So some years later I did it with the magnum. It works just like they said. It fits in a factory position. So, you may want to keep that in mind.
very cool !!!