Greater Manchester Police accused of making woman who reported rape feel ‘worthless’
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- Опубліковано 17 бер 2024
- Among the many damning criticisms in her report last year, Dame Louise Casey described the Met Police as institutionally sexist and misogynistic.
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Later this year - a report will be published on another of the UK’s biggest police forces.
Dame Vera Baird is expected to make serious criticisms of Greater Manchester Police over their treatment of women in custody.
But this programme has heard from women who say a wider investigation is needed into the police force.
They say there’s a 'boys club culture' - and raise questions about the way women are treated when they make complaints about the force.
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The police investigate themselves again and find they did nothing wrong! Quelle surprise!
When a police force says "We still have a long way to go" you know that they're not really going to try to fix things.
It's called due process
None of this is surprising. This is why I try my best to look out for myself because I know the police do not uphold justice.
And if your house is burgled, do you look out for yourself then too?
@@LordOfLightOh, you mean when you are given a crime report number because the police 90% of the time do NOT attend a burglary?! Numpty keyboard warrior.
@@TomNoles007 Hmm. Lots of abuse but no substance. Are you drunk?
@@TomNoles007 And I think the term "keyboard warrior" is better applied to the character who freely calls someone "numpty", don't you? Strongly recommend you look in the mirror before accusing others.
@@LordOfLight the key phrase is "try my best." This isn't a woman who - heaven forbid - would offend your "truther" proclivities by stating outright that she can decimate these morons.
"you wouldn't be here reporting it if he was good looking" police, 2021.
Also accusing children of lying about rapes and sexual abuse and forcing them to sign statements to say rust are lying or they will go into care
Then after they sign , having a go at them for lying about their abuse !
Read my social services papers I lied because I laughed when they spoke of his g area I was 13-14 they do not care about the truth well our truth-
Was also in the care system
That's evil.
sounds like laughing in stress response to me, thee cops are fucking stupid as well as bigotted.@@betterwithwinebetterwithwi2359
UK police have always downplayed, and never properly investigated those crimes!
Its the same with mental health patients people with depression are treated like dirt and a joke by the police if they are unlucky enough to be detained by them on minor incidents. They always see a depressive as the perp and not the victim because of cause they are damaged.
the comments section is easily scary. People are actually saying it wasn't rape. The UK is a sick society.
This is the problem now, that, due to public service cuts to the police and prosecution services, a case will only be put forward through the CPS if there is enough evidence for a guaranteed conviction, rather than enough evidence for a prosecution. Intimidating victims of crime to get them to make their own decision not to go ahead is despicable behaviour by the police. It's not good enough for police forces to apologise and say lessons will be learnt. The lessons should all have been learnt by now.
Awful story. No wonder women don’t go to the police. It’s shameful.
Niece claimed rape, she was found out to be lying, more common than u think
@@cuckoospider111 how do you know she was lying? A lot of people lie they were lying out of pressure because the bad attention you can get for 'ruining a mans life'
@@cuckoospider111Why have you copied and pasted someone else's comment? 🤔
@@redXivy Yes. Captures what I want to say, easier than typing and more to the point. And I get away with it.
@@cuckoospider111 "captures what I want to say" .. all you've said is that you're a liar and a child 😂
ok, criticising the police is where they draw the line. got it.
Most of the time, police officers make referrals to the MASH Team after a person makes a complaint to GMP.
Usually the referrals to mental health services are done by police safeguarding teams and domestic abuse officers.
A man at the Salford Ask Andy Burnham Event in February, said that his partner works in mental health services and understands a lot of referrals by GMP officers are not right.
The Greater Manchester Deputy Mayor stated these referrals will be looked into.
My story would terrify you after my ex boyfriend died by suicide over 9 years ago.
I have been threatened to keep quiet, or I will be sectioned, forced to take medication I do not need and evicted from my home!
There will be lots of similar stories to mine because of mental health issues being used against families in family courts.
Unreal what the police is able to get away with in this country. Country is in total decline.
not really decline. The police have always been able to act like this. Much worse in the "good old days". It's just that now the victims of the police are actually being heard, even if nothing is being done about it just yet
The very fact my drink was spiked as well, and this lady accurately describes the symptoms, means she is telling the truth. Unfortunately for the suspect, I'm a red head and my biochemistry means I don't get drugged very easily. Obviously he wasnt an anaesthetist. I was able to pick up my friend, and get us both back to safety. As soon as we got through the door, we were vomiting everywhere after one glass of wine. I still remember being slammed into nearby buildings by my friend, who was incapacitated, and a lot bigger than me. I have no idea how I did it. Never leave any glasses unattended at the bar, even to turn around for seconds to put them on a table.
Chief Constable? More like Chief Comfortable. Not enough scrutiny and accountability
Hear! HEAR!!!
Misogyny at its finest.
Cope 😊
@@grandtheftauto1932shut up🤢
I knew it was ghb when she described how she felt, but when I later in the video heard it actually was I was still shocked 😢
Investigate the solicitor. I bet his clients get a similar protection
It's reasons like this why I plan to leave the UK
I once contacted Manchester police a few years ago after there was a rapist on the loose and they made an announcement that women should stay indoors 😂 I said , wouldn’t it be a better idea to declare that a potential predator stay indoors, instead of asking potential victims to stay indoors 😅 [let’s be clear: I don’t think anyone’s human rights and freedom of movement should be violated, but if we HAVE to make a choice, the weight of responsibility can’t fall on the potential victims’ shoulders ! ]That’s victim blaming, it means if a woman does get raped, it was “her own fault” for being out and about. I received a reply, detailing how ludicrous my suggestion was that women shouldn’t be the ones to have to curtail their movements .
Put it this way, I wasn’t impressed.
This is terrible. God help the victims.
Nothing new anyone who’s lived in Manchester or greater Manchester have known and experienced this for years from GMP they all proved what they were about in GMP regarding rape and even with rape from grooming gangs girls in care as far back as 1999 and even further back than that for DV GMP are well known for this and have been for years and still nothing is ever done despite news reports and independent investigations and still they’re allowed to still have police investigating police and still allowed to continue this and yeah right totally unrelated my back end they ran a woman out of Oldham for standing up to them Maggie Oliver helped that girl and magpies said what I have police mark their own homework and yes nothing is or ever will be done or change they do discriminate and target individuals and it will never change all too well known for it the GMP are cover ups left right and centre for years missing body cam and cell evidence in that poor woman’s case I still reckon she was raped in that cell they’ve always been bullies hahaha positive outcome rate for rape hmmm I beg to differ in that one
Rotheram rochdale telford ignorrd them aswell
Police Scotland is the same.
ROCHDALE police😂😂😂
they probably done the attack as well
That's genuinely horrifying
Terrifying
The police need training on how to talk to people with compassion. Accountability now.
Policing is the problem.
We need to rebuild for an entirely rethought system.
@@GemmaHentschWith that mindset good luck stopping crime.
@@GemmaHentschright policing is a problem and crime is a solution for u .
@@chiragshetty4608crime is largely a symptom of societal problems.
Policing is poorly suited for solving it.
@@GemmaHentsch police is a part of society . Giving punishment for crime is also part of society. When crime goes unchecked and without any action against it then the society degrades and it encourages criminal. You may be living in ur lala land . But nobody want to live in a society where crime goes unchecked . Police are the back bone of every society.
You should go straight to Scotland Yard if you get nowhere with the soon to be ex Mayor of Manchester - his teeth look clearly coked out.
It's a lottery with the same sort of odds to get a good copper. I use to know a lesbian copper who was the local beat officer, she was well tough but fair sound and not out to arrest to people but resolve things, she could of arrested me and my neighbour once and she just had a serious words with us and honestly that had a lot effect and sorted things out, she was right and she called us out fair and square we were a pair of idiots, but she well known and liked in the area, if she was the standard then we wouldn't be having any of the issues we have, she just kept things in check and looked after people in her community and she did a boss job of it, but the rest of them were just assholes and divs
We fully support those who complaint against Police we are fully supportive providing free access to legal defense while in custody for malicious communication.
Greater Manchester Police
Never forget the Rotherham children and remember there are more Met Police in these comments and on your Twitter than in your streets.
Defending their own 😢
Wow this comments section is really toxic, why is it always rape that ppl seem to draw the line at? Ppl who are falsely accuse deserve justice but so do ppl who have been sexually assaulted. We can have both ppl, show some compassion for your fellow human beings.
there's always an excuse to not care about rape victims - they're all liars or it was somehow their own fault because men are all goodies and women are baddies, apparently... read any comment section, nowadays its 90% taken up by men who hate women. You can only hope that the online world doesn't represent reality.
Compare that to how police treat women accused of bothering trans activists.
Was the detective deborah green? if so, I’m dealing with something similar with the same Detective
STILL this is a problem. Thank you for bringing this woman's case to the public's attention. Thank you to Dame Louise Casey as well.
let's focus on male issues for once... women have things SO much easier it's not even funny
Only women should be policing women. Abused people should not have to deal with misogyny and fascism on top of crime.
The detective was a female so no winking for the victims here sadly
@@SandraCooper-bx7gc the entire system is horribly twisted and corrupt. Guess some of the female officers are equally so.
Women want "muh equality"..
You can tell she is not British. If she was British they would have definitely done something about it. Fr
Yeah just like all them white children from Rotherham.
Wrong.
The culture is that of misogynist ganggoons.
She stood up for herself.
Police investigate accusation and determine he said, she said with no evidence is unlikely to get a conviction. Accuser gets mad and posts online about accused. Police have evidence in that case so move to arrest, but drop charges with context. This is a ridiculous story CH4. Innocent until proven guilty is an essential part of the criminal justice system, as is having sufficient evidence for prosecution. Is it a hard pill for a victim to swallow that there isn't enough evidence to proceed? Sure. But that doesn't mean police or the criminal justice system did anything wrong. It just means in a specific case there wasn't enough evidence to proceed.
I guess there's always people who are unable to comprehend what's going on. But carry on believing you're some kind of intellectual. Allow me to educate you. It's not about the alleged rape, its about the police arresting her for some comment she made months before, after lodging a complaint. May I suggest you watch reports with an adult in future and discuss the context before you post.
Well said. @@simplesimon5739
The funny thing is how all your assumptions are so wrong hahaha but yeah continue to pretend mr know it all
👆 To these two morons, try actually reading what I wrote. It is a full summary of the video report, including the her arrest for harassment online, and the subsequent dropping of charges against her with context. It would help you both if you took your own advice and actually understood what happened, and what was written before running your mouths and making clowns of yourselves.
did they not pay them enough ??? 🤣
Crumbs, that's not like the police. I doubt if they would let down our children.
Yea truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgement.
Holy Bible.
When I think of all the things going on in the world. All the horrors all the injustices, all the outright atrocities. But make a woman "feel worthless" and it's plastered all over the news.
Yep, I had my assault last year, reported it and two males talked over me and made me feel like I was wasting their time... Deeply feel for her and others that haven't come forward💔❤️🩹
People don’t come forward precisely because of the way they are treated by the police.
@@gelbsucht947 and because of the obsession of false accusations, i know they do happen and its awful when they do... but surely these rare cases shouldn't be the only cases we see men online care about..
@@laylaandres5118 I suspect that the men who go on about false accusations are themselves often rapists.
You can thank all the w'o'me'n who falsely accuse Me'n for that
Its not an obsession, its a reality. and they are not rare at all.@@laylaandres5118
Vote reform
maybe she accused someone that was not white british so lets not make wave as this is generally the case in Britain
White British around 0 ft tall I’m afraid
Sharing only one side of the story is not responsible journalism. Domestic abuse, while abhorrent, is not rape. No evidence of rape has been offered in this story.
It’s not a court of law and they haven’t accused a named person in the report of doing so (quite right too).
Domestic abuse demonstrates a degree of contempt and hatred for women, as does rape.
they said he looked too nice to rape as if that's evidence he's innocent, he was nice enough to beat up his ex - rape is another form of violence and entitlement to control another's body - may not be enough to prosecute but him looking 'nice' isn't enough to prove his innocence and is a vile way to dismiss a woman's report. Its disgusting they accused her of malice when they had no proof of such thing.
What about if the perpertrator is a w'o'm'a'n? would it mean she has contempt and hatred for m'e'n?@@gelbsucht947
What if the DV victim is a m'a'n?@@gelbsucht947
Also - the way that Zayah Iman dresses is haram according to Islam...
And your problem is ?
@@SandraCooper-bx7gc I am just stating the fact that it is haram for Muslim woman to dress like western woman
Thank you for the information on religious verdicts on women. However, Britain is a secular country. People are free to wear whatever they want.
@@Masud_S_Hoghughiand ?
Imprecise disaster
Just another police bashing story
While men are just horrified at being accused of being falsely accused and going to jail. Women get the better deal all around
Nope, you're going to have to explain that one to me. Women get the better deal?
@@jonnylumberjack6223 I cant explain the obvious to someone who hasn't found his 2nd brain cell
A cis man is far more likely to BE RAPED than to be falsely accused of rape.
@@markc6714 You can't explain because either you do not know what you're talking about and are expressing a feeling, you are just incredibly lazy, or you are not confident enough in your own ability to form logical arguments in written form and are therefore afraid of being made to look silly.
@@deussivenatura5805 I just can't resist the temptation to make you eat your words. So if a woman is r#ped, she's a victim and it's horrible but last a short period. When a woman falsely accuses a man, he's arrested immediately without evidence and put in jail. When convicted and sent to prison by her fake tears, that man is a victim for years and will be r#ped and beaten every day for years. So yeh men get it much much much worse than women. So now that I have explained, sit down and let the adults talk
Who can blame them her fault anywhere
why is it her fault she was drugged? Why do you hate humanity so much? not normal
Why did she go with him to the hostel and get drunk?@@laylaandres5118
Thank god incels like you are too afraid to say things like this outside your safe space the internet
What if she is lying?
what if she's not? why must we assume women are lying without proof... the guy had previous convictions for domestic violence, i think thats very telling
Why must we assume they are saying the truth without proof especially considering how much they lie?@@laylaandres5118
Everyone should receive a proper forensic investigation and be treated with dignity throughout the process.
What if she wasn't? Thats why we expect the police to do their job like professionals. You clearly have issues.
She’s not lying :)
more anti-fun propagnda again 🙄🙄
thats a sick comment
excuse me? we know what the news media is up to here @laylaandres5118
@@MostlyLoveOfMusic holding the police to account for their failings and actions?
the problem is that these narratives make it ever more difficult for strangers to approach each other and show affection in public, for fear of "accusations"
@@MostlyLoveOfMusic how do you knows she's lying? You don't. So grow up.
Lol if the person suspected a drug added to the drink is suspected even if she didn't remember the what had happened she should have gone to police and got herself check . It took her a week sound weird and how do any one know if she lieing or not . Also domestic abuse and rape are totally different crime u can't link it .
exactly
Stop blaming the victim you don’t know how it is to go through that as you never have.
@@dorino9057 it's not blaiming the victim . Well it's facts . Also who knows in reality who is the victim . Lots of things doesn't add up .
Why go to a hotel with someone and get drunk and have drunken s/x which is usually gona be rough and you’re more like to feel sick about it next day or feel good about it and want to do more and again and sometimes some people think that it was against their will and it was forced on to them just because they feel sick about what she did last night with the person and accuse him of rape 😅😅
I think you missed the bit about her being administered a drug to override her consent.
Dude she was drugged
But she said she remembered everything next morning dude 😎 you can never remember anything the next day u wake up if you were drugged and drunken that's means she was drunk and in drunken state s-x does get abit too extreme sometimes
😂 is this guy for real 😂
@@Ak.101 tell you what, you stay as far away as possible from any woman that I know. Not just for the rape denial bit, but it sounds as though you like to get a bit rough and blame the drink.
With due respect to victim, it is important to cover the other side of story which include police , certainly they are good number of fake cases , I have seen personally
completely fed up of these vvomen
Stay away from them then.
i'm bi
You're fed up of domestic abuse victims?
we're fed up of men abusing us and falsely accusing us of lying
@@omrxblah4572 So you do have a choice. Just stay away from women, it would be greatly appreciated by women everywhere.
This is not a rape. You went a date with the police man and then to his hotel. Don't make false allegations about him. This woman is looking for money.
Exactly
Was you there then? Someone may need to report you as an eye witness.
@@1inchPunchBowl
Hear! HEAR!!!
She was drugged.
Commiserations to victims of bad police practices.
With the benefit of hindsight, I sincerely hope that lessons will be learned this time and police investigate procedures will be reviewed thoroughly and vigorously to ensure that this doesn't occur again at GMP.
Niece claimed rape, she was found out to be lying, more common than u think
hard drive check 👆👆👆👆
You’ve made this comment before and other posts stop spamming.
My cat watched this with me; now she thinks she's a director.