Love David's teaching and depth of knowledge! I hadn't heard of the problem regarding no biblical support for gentiles in the millennium. My pastor was preaching today on the transfiguration, but got to kingdom talk in Zechariah 14:16-19, where it plainly states that there will be Gentile nations in the millennium.
Zechariah 14:16-19 “And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Everything you said is how I understood it when I read the Bible for myself. It’s clear that the 24 Elders represent the church…they describe us perfectly.
Great presentation of Truth. I also found the question and discussion at the end quite interesting. But the man who queried the meaning of the word "overcome" was trying to liken it to his modern day combat language. When we simply consider the TWO specific references the man contrasted, in Revelation, we are left with one question: what does "overcome" mean when it speaks of the Antichrist overcoming the saints? Well, it can only mean one of TWO things.....either the Antichrist pressured them enough to make them choose to take the 'mark'.....OR the Antichrist had them killed. Firstly, the first point there is NOT an option, because the saints are SAVED by Promise and therefore WILL NOT take the 'mark' , ( and EVERYONE taking the mark will face the Lake of Fire). Therefore, the "overcoming" the saints HAS TO mean they are killed. There is no other option.
Revelation 6: "10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled." The syntax of those verses do not demand, in my opinion, that every Tribulation believer be killed.
The prominent occupants of the Kingdom will be the believing remnant of Israel who fled into the mountains at the "abomination that makes desolate" to be supernaturally protected by God.
"Living Holy and obeying Jesus". Can I just observe the obvious and point out that the person who said that has never lived Holy and will never live Holy. Not one day in his entire life has he lived Holy, not one. Do yourself a favor and don't put yourself under the Law. Through the circumcision made without hand we are Holy, but it is his Holiness, not ours!
Love David's teaching and depth of knowledge! I hadn't heard of the problem regarding no biblical support for gentiles in the millennium. My pastor was preaching today on the transfiguration, but got to kingdom talk in Zechariah 14:16-19, where it plainly states that there will be Gentile nations in the millennium.
Zechariah 14:16-19
“And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
I truly hope this channel continues to post these studies on the Pre-Trib Rapture.
I'm so glad I discovered this channel - so many in-depth teachings on the Rapture! Thanks Pre-Trib Study Group!
Everything you said is how I understood it when I read the Bible for myself. It’s clear that the 24 Elders represent the church…they describe us perfectly.
Thanks y'all
Very good
David Hocking; the best.
Great presentation of Truth. I also found the question and discussion at the end quite interesting. But the man who queried the meaning of the word "overcome" was trying to liken it to his modern day combat language. When we simply consider the TWO specific references the man contrasted, in Revelation, we are left with one question: what does "overcome" mean when it speaks of the Antichrist overcoming the saints? Well, it can only mean one of TWO things.....either the Antichrist pressured them enough to make them choose to take the 'mark'.....OR the Antichrist had them killed. Firstly, the first point there is NOT an option, because the saints are SAVED by Promise and therefore WILL NOT take the 'mark' , ( and EVERYONE taking the mark will face the Lake of Fire). Therefore, the "overcoming" the saints HAS TO mean they are killed. There is no other option.
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Revelation 6:
"10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."
The syntax of those verses do not demand, in my opinion, that every Tribulation believer be killed.
The MAIN POINT IS YOU FALLOW JESUS CHRIST AND......ABIDE IN HIM.
Who does Dr. Hocking believe populates the Kingdom?
Where does he say the sheep and goat judgement fits in?
Ah...at the 59:00 mark, someone asks this question.
He seems to be saying that the Gentiles who get picked as sheep are not part of the group of believers until that point.
The prominent occupants of the Kingdom will be the believing remnant of Israel who fled into the mountains at the "abomination that makes desolate" to be supernaturally protected by God.
"Living Holy and obeying Jesus". Can I just observe the obvious and point out that the person who said that has never lived Holy and will never live Holy. Not one day in his entire life has he lived Holy, not one. Do yourself a favor and don't put yourself under the Law. Through the circumcision made without hand we are Holy, but it is his Holiness, not ours!