Monolith M1070 - Unboxing The New Competitor
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Really looking forward to your in depth reviews and comparisons of these Monolith headphones. Also I think you have probably become my favourite UA-cam headphone reviewer - I was/am a fan of Tyll Hertsens although of course he's no longer in the headphone review business. But you set well defined listening tests, and the things you say while testing are things I can understand and appreciate - you're doing a great job anyhow, cheers.
That's a high complement indeed! Thanks!
Why aren’t more people talking about these? Very well made review!
Lol, I get the feeling you really dislike overpriced products like the LCD line from Audeze. Man, Monoprice reminds me of AMD, beating both Intel and Nvidia on both CPU and GPU performances at a better price point or being the best bang for the buck. Happy to see competitors actually competing.
Hell yeah. These look like the Ryzen CPUs of the audio world lol...Hopefully. I'll be getting in mine later today. Stoked.
I like Audeze. I think they make good products. I just dislike their price and unwarranted hype. They put a lot of work into planar magnetic headphones--they didn't create the technology but they made it their own. But I think they have failed to innovate and provide consumer-friendly options. When all other planar magnetic headphone manufacturers sell excellent alternative planars at about half the price of the cheapest Audeze big planars--that should be a wake up call to Audeze. Their response turned out to be a middle finger to the consumer--the LCD-1. They have marketed the LCD-1 as something it is not. It's got a plastic build, sounds unlike other Audeze headphones, is not neutral (contrary to popular argument), and is still too expensive when compared to alternatives.
There is simply no excuse for Audeze's lack of consumer care. Other, cheaper headphones have better build quality and either the same or cleaner sound than the LCD-1, and provide a more affordable alternative.
It's almost like one of your grandkids who can't get his act together. Secretly you hope he gets into just enough trouble to scare him back to reality. That's what I'm hoping for with Audeze. Whether you like or dislike Monoprice, they are tenacious and have been at Audeze's heels. With meaningful competition from Hifiman and Sendy, I think Audeze has plenty to be scared over. But if their response is something like the LCD-1--they haven't hit rock bottom yet.
@@NoThemeReviews hifiman ananda's sound better than everything i've heard from audeze
@@alvarg I keep hearing positive things about the Ananda. It's on my wish list...but the headphones are far too expensive at the moment.
I kinda like... K712, which are even lower in price.
Jesus did I just find the best headphone reviewer in YT?
I hope so
Hi,
Nice review overall. You just got a new sub. I have a question, have you try remove the foam under the grills of the 1070? I heard that there are some positive effects in terms of sound when doing that on the M1060. I affair to try it on my 1070 since the screws seems weak and really tightly fix.
Nope I haven’t done that.
Thanks for this vid, definitely this will be my first hifi headphone
Frequency Response chart for the M1570 M1070 and M570 ua-cam.com/video/YbdwgTb8pBE/v-deo.html
Anything over 500 grams for headphones is simply too heavy for me, these are 580 g. Audeze LCD series, same issue.
Then don't be a pussy and do neck exercises
Not if the cushions and clamping pressure is right. Weight distribution is a huge factor in comfort
To each their own.
One of the reasons i went for Dan Clarck Aeon 2.
The Abyss AB-1266 Phi TC is heavier than these and I find them to be pretty comfortable.
You planning to review the M570 soon? If they all share similar sound characteristics along with that detail, I might as well return the M1570 and just pocket the price difference with the M570.
I asked Monoprice for a review unit. They said it should not be a problem, so hopefully I can have one for comparison soon.
Do you have any experience with the m570’s? I’ve been looking between the 1070’s and the 570’s and I can’t seem to find any direct comparisons and the frequency response graphs I can’t seem to find either for. I’d love any feedback
Yes; I made a series of videos on the 570 a few years ago. It's a Sendy Aiva clone. Monolith made some superficial alterations. Maybe watch those videos--not direct comparisons with the 1070, but hopefully you'll get an idea of the sound signature.
These actually really don't feel heavy at all despite the weight listed for them... the only thing that bothers me about these so far is that the clamping force is SO WEAK... they feel really loose on my head and my head isn't small. I might try slowly bending them to be tighter but dang, I wish they held just a little tighter.
Sound is great so far, needs more burn in.
Yup. I was expecting more clamping from the way the headband bows. And it's not like the leather pads need to be thicker...I'd have a hard time finding thicker earpads to create a tighter seal. Oh well. Hopefully Monolith takes this little stuff into consideration and improves on the headphones. I don't want Monolith to be the next Oppo!
@@NoThemeReviews For real the leather pads are really thick already, really comfortable and don't bother my glasses. I really like these so far, sound is great and sounds even better with a balanced cable from my THX 789. Very nice for gaming too, the imaging is fantastic for positional accuracy and hasn't had any painful frequency spikes for reloading/shooting guns yet like my Sendy Aiva has. All I want is a headband better suited for these giant cans T_T
@@TheMuscleCow Glad the sound is good-i should get mine thurs/fri, have a pretty big head and ussualy wear a hat under headphones so will have to see about the size, but ya with the size and weight of them you would think they would go tighter rather than looser. maybe a way to lock the earphones or something
lok777 the more I break them in the more I like them. Music separation is fantastic too and sounds are tall with really great soundstage. I’m extremely happy with these so far - maybe in the future I can figure out a headband mod.
Now I’m super curious about what the 1570 sounds like in person 🤔🤔🤔
@@TheMuscleCow Ya I just recieved mine- I ordered the 570 as well as the 1070 gonna decide which i like more. Ya the headband is on the large side, like if i look to the side really quick it feels loose. up and down are fine. If i didnt have a massive cranium it might be an issue. They both sound freaking amazing though, from the little I have been able to listen so far love both of them gonna be hard to decide.
Monoprice m1070 vs Sivga Phoenix what's the main difference in sound characteristics between those???
Is the M1070 better than the Sundara in terms of bass. I like to listen to a lot of EDM, Hip Hop, and Rock. I have X2HRs and I love them but I am desperately wanting that sub bass punch that they lack while not losing too much soundstage. Would the M1070 even be a significant upgrade over my X2HRs? I would assume so but I have never heard a Planar before.
Not so much punch as definition and clarity vs the X2. The bass transience will be noticeably faster. The sub-bass and mid-bass will be better separated. The 1070 is not a bassy headphone. Neither is the Sundara. The 1070 has slightly more bass emphasis than the Sundara, but not by much. If you want bass, stick with dynamic drivers. The 1More has exceptional bass impact. The D2000 has very deep sub-bass, though muddy.
No Theme Reviews the X2HRs have a lot of mid bass but they lack sub bass it’s almost nonexistent and it’s very apparent in some bassy songs it almost sounds like part of the sound cuts out because of it. It’s not that I’m wanting a bassy headphone exactly just something that can hit low when it needs to. I tend to like a clean bass I would say my preferred signature would be something reminiscent of the Blon BL-03. Personally unless I go closed basically no dynamic open back hits low only Planars do that from what I see in graphs at least. And the only Closed Back I would want Drop doesn’t even sell any more which is the Fostek Ebony. And I know there are DT177X Go’s but they don’t sound warm enough for me and tend to come off too analytical for my tastes.
Graphs are very misleading. It’s rare to find a planar that fully reproduces sub-bass with any authority. You may want to consider the Denon D2000 or D5200.
@@NoThemeReviews if I use the M1070 with ifi hip dac would the bass and sub-bass be good enough?
I listen to mostly EDM. Compared the X2 vs the X1: kept the X1 because the X2 was too sibilant and didn't have enough sub-bass and the soundstage was more narrow.
Recently I tested the X1 vs Sundara, M1060 and M1070: I kept the X1 because, again, the Sundara was more sibilant and the slight increase in clarity didn't justify the upgrade price. In other words, in order to upgrade from the X1, I need a substantial upgrade in sound to justify the expense. It wasn't there in the Sundara. Yes, it was slightly quicker, but the vocals more in your face. And the soundstage was as wide as the X1, but it didn't justify spending the $$$.
Compared to the M1070 and M1060: there's a midrange veil on both the M1060 and M1070. Clarity doesn't come close to the X1 and Sundara. The M10** don't have the sub-bass, so they couldn't even compete in the comparison. They also don't respond well to EQ. Boosting the bass just introduces mud. Not so with the Sundara. They confused me honestly. I thought they would compete more closely.
Side note: I tested a used and new M1060 and the used one was more veiled than the other. Conclusion: I think Monoprice's QC is not very good.
Side note II: If you don't mind IEMs, try a Letshuoer S12. They all-around surpass the X1 and Sundara with no EQ. Boost at 30Hz and prepare for your mind to be blown. (I'm still searching for a full-sized can equivalent.)
Monoprice m1070 vs m570 which have better sound quality??
Specially bass response??
I can't tell you which one you'll enjoy more. That's a personal preference. The M570 is a Sendy Aiva clone with different earpads. The bass on the 570 isn't deep or impactful--same as the Aiva. The M1070 is a new generation of drivers with a slightly different house sound than Monolith had before. It's got fast bass, though not particularly deep. Its mids are clear and treble well-controlled with energy. It has wider soundstage than the M570.
@@NoThemeReviews thanks for the reply 👍👍
Did the re tune of 1060 v2 cure the so called " ringing" problems???
I didn’t have the original and can’t say
hi Dude, it could also be good for mixing what do you think?
You can use any headphones for mixing as long as you understand the sound signature and what your eventual mix will be. There’s no reason why you couldn’t use this headphone for your application but it’s not neutral, if that matters to you.
@@NoThemeReviews No it is not, at most I will make a correction of Eq comparing them with my monitors.
In the end, man, I bought them. I couldn't wait any longer, I also bought the little Loxjie p20.
So I start like this!
I got a deal..
Unfortunately I could not try the Austrian but I hope to be happy with monolith m1070, I wanted a planar.. for low price!
Thank you man !
hi. I have m1060, m1060c, lcd2c, lcd2 and the review on my channel. Ok, but i am not here for say you that hahahah. I have a question. About all that headphones that i have mentioned, my favorite sound is of the m1060. I describe its sound like very very holographic, amazing instrumental separation, and and Amazing bass, very tight and well controlled!! Just perfect bass. On the other hand, M1060c the bass is big and nothing tight, i hate that. Then, I would like to know if m1070 has the same features in the bass like m1060 and the same behavior in the imaging (holographic sound) like the m1060 (open back version)?. I want to buy an m1070 but i would like the same bass. And second question. The m1060 has "ringing", yes we know that, but we can hear it, in the other hand, m1060c doesnt have ring but has a very "thin" highs, with very piercing peaks on 1khz, 2khz and 4khz. Just impossible to hear. What about m1070 highs? I hope you can response me that 2 questions. So, thank you very much. Regards.
Lol, it seems like you have an excellent collection of headphones!
I don't know what you mean by "holographic". If you can tell me precisely what that means to you, it would help me answer the question.
There is a noticeable sound difference between the 1070 and both the 1060 and 1060c. The bass on the 1070 has significant rumble in the sub-bass; the sub-bass and mid-bass become muddy when both are in the mix. However, I have not heard any distortion at all. Moreover, the bass does not overwhelm the mids. I think the 1070's treble is a few decibels reduced from the 1060--which is just under my personal treble threshold. I would not describe the sound of the 1070 as "thin." In fact, I'd say it is more full sounding than the previous models.
I think the best way to understand which headphones you want is to audition them. In this case, that's not possible.
I'm going to upload my sound tests starting tomorrow. Those might help you get an idea of the M1070 sound.
@@NoThemeReviews Holographic sound is when you have "layers" of sound. Something like if a set of instruments were heard in the background, then a few centimeters closer to you, other instruments, and so on. The point is that the layers are very well defined and separated from each other, and there is no mixing between layers. Here, in each layer we have a set of instruments or voices. I hope I have explained.
Only with hd800, t1 and m1060 have I noticed that "holographic" sound. With the lcd2.2 prefazor also but a little less compared to the m1060.
On the other hand, My main concern is to know if the m1070 has a tight and controlled bass like that of the m1060 or a bass that is "reverberant" like the sony z7. For example, the Sony Z7 has a bass with a lot of reverberation, which it does, to my point of view, little controlled and resonant, but still with a lot of detail, cleanliness and quality. But I don't know if for you a sound with reverberation of this type is called "distorted."
My specific question is whether the bass of the m1070 is reverberant and resonant like a z7, or tight and controlled like an m1060?
I hope I don't overwhelm you with all this. Greetings friend.
@@NoThemeReviews i think, when we have "rumble", not necessary we have reverberation. Maybe the hit of bass can be very hard, but after that, it relaxing very quick. For me is very difficult to know how is the bass when you say that m1070 has "significant rumble" in the sub-bass. Well, i will wait your response. I think it will be enough for take a good decision :)
@@dynamic-audio bro, which is best among all m1060, m1060c or m1070??
In your opinion. For value from money perspective what you recommend??
@@dynamic-audio That means you can feel the sound stage in both depth and width and instrument separation is there. I think Fostex TH900, TH0XX is also such headphone.
Hi, do you know any closed headphones as replacement for the EL8 closed, with similar sound signature and similar sound isolation? Except the Ollo audio s4r.. Maybe the Focal Elegia??
I haven't heard the Elegia, so I can't say. What's your budget?
@@NoThemeReviews About 400$ But don't consider that, you can say whatever you think is good as the EL8 at the specs I mentioned..
i have the single-ended Asgard 3 by Schiit Audio. 3.5W into 32 Ohms SE. being i have a SE only amp, should i get the 1070? (because not-balanced)?
Balanced has no effect on headphones as long as there's sufficient power through the single-ended connection. Your Asgard is already overkill for the vast majority of headphones, including every planar I know of. Power is not the issue, so I don't think you should worry about your amp.
How do these compare to the Hifiman Ananda?
Just got mine and so far agree with muscle cow. They sound phenomenal, but the clamping force is weak. It will be an issue with some poeple i can tell, I have a massive head and wear a hat and am good but if my head was smaller may be an issue. I really really like them. Edit-The headband is just to weak on them, my head is huge and they are still falling off. Sounded *slightly* better imo than the 570 but they fall off my head everytime I look to the side or move my head. Returning them and keeping 570 its just way to anoying. It is weird because the 570 has like the same headband but for sdome reason they clamped it way the fuck out so it doesnt, like, work.
The new M headphones seem to have little fit and finish issues. The cable problem is annoying, and the clamping force is definitely irritating for some. Maybe giving out prototypes to reputable reviewers for feedback would have helped...?
I wonder how the 1570 compares to hifiman he6?
Apparently the HE6 is notoriously hard to drive and very expensive-two factors that do not bode well.
What's better HiFiman Sundara or Monolith m1070?
In what regard?
@@NoThemeReviews basically, I listen metal, rock opera (female voices) and instrumental, I want to pressition, details, holographic sound, soundstage, could you help me?
@@alejandromiguel8599 Sundara is boring in metal
@@wolandphotography Thanks
@@alejandromiguel8599 no problem, today i buying 1070, cause Sundara was very disapointing
The metal paint on the yoke looks like it will chip away easily. I would put my money somewhere else.
I don't know why you get that impression. The yoke portion looks and feels identical to the Elex. I suppose if you're rubbing coarse material over the surface, then it will chip. But I've been using these for almost a month, and have carried them in my bag several times, and have not noticed any chipping.
@@NoThemeReviews that's good to hear because my m1060s chipped away within 2 weeks of use under light use.
Yeah...the 1060 has plenty of build issues.
@@NoThemeReviews I own the focal elex, elegia and ether cx. I still wouldnt put any money for monoprice headphones even for the m1070. The m1060 were horrible but their amps look and sound great at least.
is M1060c a better buy?
In what way? The older Monolith headphones have different tuning.
Hi! This or the Sivga Phoenix?
For what?
@@NoThemeReviews good vocals, nice imaging, precise and impact bass but no muddy bass. Rock songs with a lot of drums and nice sounding guitars, some pop songs with that nice touch of bass but not overwhelming.
@@bfhyanFX You're asking for a personal opinion. I don't do that. It's not appropriate for reviewers to tell you what to buy. Both of these headphones have a balanced sound signature, but present different characters. Neither has muddy bass. The 1070 is smoother, the Phoenix is more vocal-forward and has slightly more treble clarity.
@@NoThemeReviews Allright, I understand your point of view. Both 1070 and 1570 are on sale at the moment, going for 302 and 378 EUR at the moment and I'm very tempted to them.
how do you rate monolith usb dac? It's good to monolith m1060? and how about stage?
The Monolith Dac sounds exactly like the Cobalt. I don't think USB dacs are any good for planar magnetic headphones--especially with large drivers like the ones in the M1060 or LCD series. You simply can't get enough power to the drivers. As for soundstage, it's average. Of course, that might change depending on your headphones.
@@NoThemeReviews i want to buy a amp like a liquid spark and dac, but i haven't enough money now, and i want to buy small dac on usb, later i want to use this one for the travel
@@fighel4127 Hmmm...what's your budget and which headphones do you use?
@@NoThemeReviews I have kz as12 and monolith m1060 (and creative evo zxr, but is heavy bassed construction, and i like natural sound and i'm not using it now). Now i want to spend about $100, and soon if i have more money (in may i think so) i want to spend about $250-300
@@fighel4127 You have several options in the $100 price range: Fx Audio Dac X6, Monolith Liquid Spark, Schiit Magni 3, SMSL Sap-II. You'll need a dac for all of these except the Fx Audio.
i do not know weather to buy the 1070c or m1570c im going nuts
help
I don't have the closed-back of either so I can't tell you anything about them.
I got my Monolith m1570 in Australia,2 weeks ago, pair with my Questyle cms800i dac-amp, it sounds better than my Audeze -2 classic!! what else to say, AUDEZE SUCK.....
is this an audecal or foceze?
Or Beydecalith.
took me a moment to understand this. you guys made me laugh.👌
is the 1570 really 200$ better than 1070?
It’s not that simple. The two have different sound signatures. That’s like asking if a pear is better than a plum.
Vs m570?
I'm still waiting for Monolith to send me the M570. But I can tell you without doubt it is the same as the Aiva.
@@NoThemeReviews Same driver, but the Avia is just smoother.... Had to explain really as they are tuned a pinch differently it seems.