Debate Over Investing in China
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Sarah Ketterer, Causeway Capital CEO & Sharmin Mossavar-Rahmani, Goldman Sachs CIO of Wealth Management explain why it's important to pay attention to geopolitical risks and debate the investibility of China.
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Sharmin is intelligent, most other "analysts" have been trying to sell investors on this for a long time without explaining any of the risks or downsides. We know how that all turned out.
some of them don't know the difference btw taiwan and china.
Investing in Russia didn't work out well for companies like ExxonMobil or MCDONALD'S.. Am I missing something?
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She was the one that said there is no bubble year ago and stay invested in US. She was so wrong! Now she says China is not attractive which means you do opposite!
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Haha how smart to choose two points of the measurement. One is extreme low mark for the US index after 2008 crisis which China didn’t impacted much, and recent cut off point after China apply the tech company sweeping lol
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I've been telling my Indian colleagues and friends for years to buy property while they can. When India starts to hit its stride, prices will follow a similar trajectory to China 15 years ago.
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I mean Chinese really are starting to hate Zero Covid. It only makes sense they would rally on a rumor.
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I sold all my US equity early this year. I lost 20% before I did that. As a passive investor, I rarely buy and sell. I would stay away from US equity until later next year.
Many foreign currencies are 10 to 20% down vs the greenback right now. That makes them cheaper now (assuming your money is in USD). If you are in for the medium to longterm, it may be a buying opportunity.
I would stay away indefinitely........ The ripples haven't returned home yet
I would stay away until the 2030s in US equities unless you are stock picking, or sector selecting. The last decade where the US had two bear markets in the same decade were the 2000s and if you put money in the S&P 500 the first trading day of January 2000 and sold the last trading day of 09 you were down. Sure with dividends you were probably up slightly, but then adjust for inflation and your wealth was certainly down. Meanwhile had you been in precious metals or EM both asset classes the vast majority of US advisors would have steered you away from in 2000 you would have been much wealthier in 2009. The fact there has already been two bear markets this decade does not bode well.
Another decade that had at least two bear markets was the 70s, and it had the same high inflation. Again it was a decade where had you invested in the S&P 500 in 1970 you would have been much less wealthy in 1979.
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printing money willy nilly wouldn't work if the US didn't have the petradollar allowing them to sell it around the world without affecting their domestic currency, its the reason Gaddafi was assassinated, saddam hussein etc, both made moves to move away from the petrodollar, due to the nature of the petradollar, this would have weakened the US dollar, Hussain and Gaddafi wanted an alterative, gold backed currency, which the Americans moved away from in 1933 under Franklin D. Roosevelt, if the US had not done this, the US wouldn't have had national interests in foreign countries, controlling what happens in area's, knowing their decisions affect America. The fact is US has had an America first policy in all it's international affairs.
India and China....... But more so India...... The space for growth is next level....... Eventually the dragon will fall and the lotus will bloom
If you'll do the same what with Russia, you'll get more inflation & deeper recession.
Who would be in their *right mind*
to invest in China right now?
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China isn't an emerging market! They have been a mature market for years , yet China wants to still have the trade benefits of being an emerging market. And the EU and USA seem to look the other way.
check out the last 5 days of Chinese stocks.
Never this china poltik is bad!
I agree
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The smartest thing that should be in everyone's mind currently should be investing in different income streams that don't depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis.
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Some can't quit their love affair with China. They can't see big shifts!
Thanks for having the debate!
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I'm really worried about investing in China. If they attack Taiwan it could easily end up as the next Ukraine. China will get sanctioned and I could loose my investment !
Rahmani doesn’t make sense to me. Baba Bidu is trading at the same stock price 10 years ago yet there company has grown revenues by 10x. Her point on SP is irrelevant.
you r looking backward data. the policy uncertainty discounted their value, like what has happened on education tech and real estate sectors, also the zero covid hurt comsumer stock so much, look at their social comsumer spending data
@@antattko zero Covid is temporary, the education sector wasn’t wiped it was tutoring sector. That shouldn’t effect whether $baba is a monster of a business. People invest to make money. This debate seems weak and avoided the facts of the matter.
This so much bs ; she’s like making it up on the spot.
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Powerful supercomputers can calculate fairly well the duration of the supervirus pandemic in Asia, which may be 2 years or a century.