The reason why they lost wasn’t only because they were simply tired, but because they kept using the same quick over and over to the point where it started to become predictable so that’s how they were able to beat them. Also oikawa isn’t a bad guy he’s just a competitive ass dude. He’s also really good because he brings out the best in everyone so that’s how that one guy (the one who received “everything”) was so good.
Yeah overall Seijoh was just a more refined team. Karasuno just kind of stitched themselves together in season 1 while the team Seijoh is already an established powerhouse.
why the hell marketa blaming oikawa for making kageyama a "king", that doesn't make sense. She loves Bakugou who was an actual bully that did much worse, but dislikes Oikawa for being a bully (Which isn’t even true)
He literally bullied izu for 10 years, bringing him down, and even telling him to commit suicide. And the worst part is he doesn't even apologise for that, for years of abuse and people still like him more than deku, who is an amazing and mentally strong main character, which gotta admit is annoying
@@kineretgilboa2391 Because its anime and characters grow. Just because Bakugou hasn't apologized for it yet doesn't mean he won't and his actions have done more than just make up for it in the manga. Besides, Bakugou is a terrible example. People love characters like Vegeta who has committed mass genocide in the past. "Bullying" in anime is hardly the worst thing anyone's done.
@@jacobnegrete3892 yeah i know, i mean i do kin eren after all, and while yes i know bakugo gets better its kinda annoying when deku just lets him walk all over him. Obviously i don't hate bakugo he's actually one of my favorites but im not gonna pretend he's perfect
@@kineretgilboa2391 wow i've never seen comment like you before, but yupp that's right!! actually people who have mature mentality won't say that bakugou is perfect (after character development too) like most people did. You will see or feel contradictory things from his personality. But.. when people like him too much, it's like everything about him is right and perfect.
I’m a bit confused.. Marketa loves Bakugo, who was an actual bully that did much worse, but dislikes Oikawa for being a bully? (Which isn’t true. He never actively tried to torment Kageyama) And this is coming from someone who’s favorite character is Bakugo as well lmao. It really isn’t fair to hold someone’s mistakes at ages 14-15 against them forever, this applies to both characters I’ve mentioned. You don’t have to like Oikawa, but at least spare him the same compassion you’ve given to other characters.
i was thinking the same thing 🙄 i also love bakugou. but if oikawa is a bully then he must be the devil lol and man if my friends/family held the things i did at that age against me, i would be very very mmm alone haha
This! One was a constant bully who belittled, tormented, and assaulted Deku for years, even encouraging him to kill himself. The other was an overwhelmed, insecure upperclassmen who was stopped from making a terrible physical mistake and has since only dissed Kageyama with petty, childish, over the top remarks… If one is forgiven and appreciated for his complexities, so should the other one. Especially when both characters are renown for working themselves to death to BE the BEST. Anything less makes her and the others seem hypocritical, which I’m sure they aren’t.
Exactly, I'm neutral towards both Bakugou and Oikawa in general but if people paid attention then Oikawa actually apologised to Kageyama after his panic attack. Bakugou has never done so, in that regard, at least in the anime, and he was an actual bully. Funny to see the double standards some people have.
You need to remember this is a show about Volleyball, and individual player journey's/growth. This is not a show exclusively about a single schools volleyball club. Two of you really need to remember this.
I don’t make excuses for people because I’ve seen groups that pick up different points a lot better, but the Normies have always had a habit of talking through a lot of important scenes and being relatively oblivious. I don’t know that explaining everything will even change how they experience it (Oikawa in particular), but I’m sure the same discussions will be had in the comments later on when events or plays come back up, or when characters make continued appearances. To be fair, they do a lot of stuff.
@@abdulkerimburak1926 i think people just like whichever normies like the shows they themselves like, lol. i've seen people say the exact opposite about suraj on other shows
I think he's read the comment section on these videos & knows how fucking brutal these fans are towards them if they say something 'controversial'. So I don't blame him.
A humble request: Dustin (the editor) or mods, can you please clarify for everyone that Oikawa never physically "beat" Kageyama or bullied him outside of that one incident (and no, petty disses and over the top nicknames is not a form of bullying, or else half of Karasuno bully each other). There were a lot of relevant factors that led to Oikawa snapping and attempting to strike Kageyama (and even he didn't realize he was doing it until Iwa stopped him) and he clearly looked shocked at his own actions. It's not right, no, but they are teenagers; I've picked fights for less when I was fourteen. Again, they are taking that one incident and somehow making it into a daily struggle of torture for Kageyama. It was not. Also, Oikawa was never a selfish player after Iwa talked to him about having a team with 6 strong being better. He's the opposite of selfish. He trusts his team and caters to their strengths. Kageyama, on the other hand, was a selfish player. This is acknowledged by MULTIPLE people, even on his current team early on in the series. He has grown out of that mindset thanks to Hinata and the rest of Karasuno, which Oikawa was acknowledging in this episode. This is a good thing! Kageyama is an amazing character because of this substational growth. Don't erase his past just because you like him, and then push his flaws onto Oikawa (who already has his own flaws). Please, the Normies have so much head canon at this point, I feel someone needs to gently and patiently set them straight or it will snowball into the rest of the series and affect how they view other characters.
I don't think the mods/editor care that much. They had multiple episodes to correct the misleading/misjudging and it hasn't happened yet, so eh. Maybe the mods have the same opinion of Oikawa.
You guys are under the impression that Oikawa beat Tobio, and that's not true!! Actually, Hinata, Daichi, and even Suga have hit Kageyama far more than Oikawa has. Kageyama's reason for his trust issues stem from his OWN upbringing, and his failure as a setter to adjust to others. We see it on-court all the time, where the setter says "my spiker just couldn't hit properly", and they never take the blame; similar to Kageyama's mentality of Kita 1st.
@@checkmate5338 you are just actually incorrect that's just what it is sure you may not like the character I don't care if you don't like the character but understand the character to hate him
@@checkmate5338 There's a difference between disliking a character and disrespecting his win. He worked hard for years to get to that point and even then it was a fair match, and blaming him for Kageyama's temper and saying he didn't deserve to win because of one time (When he wasn't mentally in the right place) he _almost_ hit Kageyama. Not to mention he was only 14-15 at the time, and plus Kageyama looked like he barely knew what was going on anyway.
They watch the whole game and even said they played a good game then Oikawa didn't deserve to win???! Also, all players are tired, this does not a provide a reason that they lost just because of it.
Oikawa and his team deserved the win. Being tired is no excuse for a team, both of them have been on the court for same time and have put the same effort to connect the ball. Oikawa being labelled as a "bad guy" doesn't come as a surprise, but a "bully" just because of that one incident doesn't seem fair. There's much more to him if you try to look.
It stems from Oikawa, as Oikawa bore the same personality before being lectured by Iwaizumi. Not to mention constant conditioning from how Oikawa acts in order for Kageyama to learn that way. He didn't get trust issues from his final match at Kitagawa Daichi... if it wasn't already evident, he has had trust issues long before. Before even their very first match against Hinata's pathetic team in the tournament, Kageyama displayed immense distrust in his hitters to convert sets into kills through the egotistical way that he plays the game, forcing hitters to adjust to a playstyle they could not physically adapt to. This has likely occurred in the previous season as well, since Kageyama had been the official setter for the team since his 2nd year after Oikawa left.
Being tired is PART OF THE GAME. Too bad if you're tired, you still lost. Maybe it's a factor, but it DOES NOT provide an excuse, especially because the coach can do something to manage the load.
EXACTLY, why tf do people think we do cardio all the damn time in sports then? We just like being out of breath n shit? No it's because if you can't play until the end then you're gon get booted off the court. you got it right on the head it's never an excuse, not in sports. maybe if you're sick or just recently recovered from an injury I'll allow it lol but volleyball is a TEAM sport anyways so 🤷🏽♂️
“they just lost cause their tired” .. haha what, both sides were. the only one was probably Kunimi lol “he doesn’t deserve to win” why? cause he’s competitive and works hard? “he’s a bully” well then kags and tsukki don’t deserve it either 🤷🏻♀️
I don't really find Kageyama a bully as much as he is a control freak and (can be) demeaning. But it's not like he goes out of his way to actually bully other people
@@Minej_Mosuris I love Ushiwaka. In fact, I love all the characters in Haikyuu. It’s gonna be so painful to watch them react if this is their approach to the characters.
@@JGA2758 I love most of the characters aswell... But Imma just but it bluntly, im a REEEEEALLY shallow person, so I always (or at least in the majority of cases) love over powered characters, no matter if they the bad guy, good guy, etc... 😂😅... Hence why Ushiwaka is my favourite, he doesnt have much of a story, his character has ALMOST no depth, and his power is his only incredible skill, but I love him😂
His team loves him and fully supports him. They trust him and he trusts them. If that oooone thing never happened with Kags they would like him. It's like hating Jordan or Kobe for being cocky, then backing it up.
@@DJKuroh disagrees, they disliked him before "that one moment". Because he's not just cocky, he's a petty annoying character. There are other characters in the show that is jocky but not a bitch about it. Never understood why so many people like him, and I find it refreshing that for once someone doesn't fan boy/girl over this guy.
@@kimvidarlund where the hell did you get that he was disliked they never stated that he was disliked he was a hard-working goofy guy that was all it was he only had issues with kageyama, and was snarky. What show have you been watching I've never once heard that anyone hated him in Canon that he worked with
They need to understand the true beauty of Haikyuu, that every team gets some spotlight and development, with different personalities, play styles, but with the same drive to win. Not that Karasuno can be their favorite, but other teams exist. Being tired is a big factor of EVERY sport. If you're lagging behind the other team, that's your fault for not training hard enough, or bad energy conservation, etc. In this case, both teams were tired in the end, except for Kunimi ig, but that doesn't change the fact that everyone else was reaching their limit. Oikawa is completely misunderstood. In middle school, he worked hard to become a good setter since he isn't and wasn't a genius. That was not enough to defeat Ushiwaka, nor was it enough to calm his panic from the upcoming Kageyama. Not one, but two players threatened to greatly surpass him with their talent, causing him to have the natural reaction of being scared and losing his mind a bit, leading to the almost hit of Kageyama. Kageyama also became a dictator on his own accord, not due to trust issues with Oikawa. Oikawa, with his wacky persona, can bring out the maximum power of any team he's on, but Kageyama still has the remnants of his old habits tied to him, so when pressured he reverted back to speeding up his tosses, and putting much pressure on himself. A lot of this is what other people said, and there's no way I understood all this on my first go, but other reactors seemed to gather more than this. First reaction blues I suppose.
Y'all talking about Marketa but besides Suraj and maybe Rana, I'm not seeing any of them recognize Oikawa's greatness, they all are hating this awesome character lmao This is unfortunate but like a guy said before, it's their authentic reaction so yeah, we gotta deal with it
Agree with you bro. I really don't get why people are mad about their reaction. I mean. Even Coach Donnie, one of the best reactors of Haikyuu hated Oikawa at the beginning. It was up until he reached the EP where Oikawa's backstory was showed that he started appreciating Oikawa.
@@LanceVanceDance214 the difference is that while coach Donny does not like Oikawa personally, he still recognises his skill and talents. Coach even said he would make Oikawa a starter if he was real
@@cuongquoc5877 and the difference is Coach is an actual volleyball player and these guys are reactors. That's why I understand why they react like that. There only on their 1st season and yet, people want them to instantly like Oikawa wherein the 1st season focuses on the individual storyline of Karasuno. One thing that is great about the Haikyuu is you get to see the journey and growth for each character.
@@LanceVanceDance214 i read people's comments every week. They do not expect the Normies to like Oikawa right away, but they expect the Normies to understand and not making any weird headcanon, which is something the Normies are doing right now. The plot of Haikyuu right now is relatively simple and if the Normies can't comprehend it then i wonder how they woyld wrap their heads when S4 come
The issue lies when they get lost about details because of it. Mitchell's talk do something on your action but don't hinder the story that you're literally trying to sit there and watch you're trying to react to a story at the end of the day and if you're just going to ignore it and then complain about it then you're just like the game grumps. Oh God they're The game grumps for anime
Marketa starts talking bad on Oikawa for acknowledging Kageyamas growth because of the one instance between the two when Oikawa lost it. Then in the very next scene starts giggling when Hinata grabs Kageyama by the collar and starts screaming in his face 🙃
I'm reposting this since it seems to be relevant for every video now apparently. Does Marketa have any idea, compared to this one mistake Oikawa almost made how borderline abusive Kageyama her "baby" was to his team mates? Even in Karasuno, its a stroke of luck that Hinata just brushes off his insults and doesn't take them to heart but imagine if Hinata had anxieties or was sensitive to it. All these fun jokes of Kageyama swearing at him won't seem so fun anymore. I like Kageyama but wow does the fandom love to excuse his shitty behavior or minimize it. Do you know how tyrannical a genius player has to be before his team throws away their chance at winning the tournament? Also I've always thought given the distance between him and kageyama in that scene and how Oikawa was crouching that he was going to hit the volleyball in Kageyama's hand not like his face. Also while it might be good to help your team mate learn a new skill nobody is owed their upperclassmen's time.
Part of the reason that Hinata is unbothered is that he has insanely high emotional IQ, which is something I hadn't realized until I was closer to finishing the manga. He doesn't take any of Kageyama's insults to heart, and is only insulted when Kageyama doesn't trust him with the ball. I probably should have realized this about Hinata after how he ropes in Yachi in the next season, but yeah, Kageyama is definitely more of a bully than Oikawa 😂
ty for saying this again. i’m tired of ppl holding this over oikawa but disregard kags behavior towards his team. i also feel like him hitting the ball out of his hand makes more sense. that’s what i saw but my brother said nawh he was bout to smack him lol. i wished it was confirm for sure but oh well.
@@ICavalcadeI You worded this really well :-) Even I realised it the same way as you when he helped Yachi out in S2, and I was like, "Yeah please I don'tthink we should call Hinata stupid, he might fall short in academics but this dude is very life smart." It becomes even clearer in the manga timeskip (I won't spoil on that).
Kags was an asshole to his peers, Oikawa was an asshole to his underclassman. Oikawa is a bigger asshole. And no, Oikawa was OBVIOUSLY aiming for his face, Jesus 🤦♂️ They SPECIFICALLY zoomed on Kags face. And also why the hell Iwa tried to stop him, if he was aiming for the ball? Like what? Just stop with this bullshit.
Click on the video and first look at the comments..see that they are about how they did not understand the single thing about Oikawa..leaves cause I can not watch them completely miss the point, the backstory and the story of probably the most comlex, realistic and most interesting character in this show..
Same. I honestly decided to stop watching this particular reaction series. But I had to check this episode if something got thru somehow. But seeing the comments, I guess not. Haha
you should really stop hating on oikawa, he is just another highschooler that lost his way because of the unfairness he feels in the face of genius,,,, AND WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH HIM "DESERVING" TO WIN OR NOT
right, he made one mistake while kags treated his teammates like crap… so why does he deserve it more than oikawa? …. if we’re going off their past mistakes here. which we shouldn’t cause i mean come on.
@@blah409 True but being rude because u want to win, imo, isn't as bad as literally trying to hit someone because you're mad they're showing u up in skill.
@@vallano8970 he wasn’t just “rude”. belittling someone’s skill cause their not at your level instead of trying to act like a teammate for 3 years…. i mean that could damage someone’s mental health. you just don’t talk to ppl like that. it stills affects kindaichi… and i’m not justifying oikawas behavior but he was also a kid going thur his own struggles and he loss control that one moment. he couldn’t even believe he went that far. it wasn’t just a causal “oh he’s better than me so let me smack him” . he was internally struggling with not ever being good enough. the pressure build up and he felt like he was going to be replace. that moment was big for him cause he grew and learned from it to become the player he is now.
@@blah409 belittling is literally being rude, no need for semantics or word play to attempt to make it seem worse than it was. Also it wasn't for "3 years" so seriously stop being over dramatic. He was a baby in year 1 it wasn't until hes second year when Oikawa left that he start having an ego because he realized how good he was. Nor have we been given ANY reason in the show or manga to believe that he was CONSTANTLY being mad 24/7 all day everyday. It's funny how with kageyma you give him no slack, or understand/sympathize with the struggles he was going through, yet for Oikawa you literally justify physical violence with "he didn't realize". Which If it weren't for it being stopped, would of 100% escalated. Idgaf if a guy says he smacked his wife and didn't "realize" until after, it still shows serious issues. You clearly can't view this from an unbiased perspective. I love Oikawa a LOT. But the notion that an ego that led to rudely asking your teammates to do better is as bad or worse than literal physical violence is RIDICULOUS.
@@vallano8970 i sympathize with kags too. i love him. i understand why he did all that. sorry your right, i got the years wrong. and again i’m not justifying oikawa’s or kags behavior. i’m not saying whose worse because of their actions. i see both their side. i’m just tired of ppl holding that against oikawa but let kags off for his toxic behavior. it’s not like oikawa is going around slapping ppl. i do NOT think physical violence is better than being “rude”. but when you talk to ppl like that, it affects them. verbal abuse is a thing. that situation still affects kags and kindaichi. and to compare a husband hitting his wife is diff than a 14-15 yr old having a mental breakdown… it’s not so black and white. it depends on the context. also yes of course the situation would of escalated and i don’t even know how they would handle that. what’s dramatic is ppl acting like something did happen, like he sent kags flying. he apologized for it and started changing. i don’t know what else ppl want out of him. and same with kags, he’s growing too but ppl talk more about oikawa’s mistakes and hold it against him and disregard kags behavior. i love all the characters. i’m definitely an oikawa stan but i’m not delusional. i know his personality isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. i just don’t like the misinterpretation of his character and the double standards.
Funny how you tend to hate Oikawa when he actually is a way better human being than what Kageyama has been up until now, at least for the moment… First HE NERVER BULLIED KAGEYAMA like Marketa seems to believe, and on top of that He’s pretty cool with literally everybody except for Kageyama and Ushiwaka (for the reasons we know…) And even for that: He would call Ushiwaka « Chan » to get on his nerves (which poorly works) and refuse to help Kageyama when He would ask for advise… That’s all… (yes He snapped ONCE and tried to hit Kageyama out of despair, and I guess anyone who’s been a teen already can understand how young people can sometimes be unstable when emotions are too hard to handle) Oh and He’s conscious of his own skills and potential and is still able to recognize the strength of those above him… While in the other hand, Kageyama was said several times to be a SELFISH player before coming to Karasuno, one that would mistreat his teammates (and it actually looks way more like bullying than what Oikawa ever did to Kageyama), badmouth them and be super arrogant… So yeah, you guys failed to get a lot of Oikawa’s personality… And it wouldn’t be a big deal if you didn’t spend so much time badmouthing him for nothing…
guys oikawa never beat kagayama! 🥲 suraj said himself i remember, he lost himself in that moment and it was a heat of the moment type of thing. you have to consider how difficult it was for him to work so hard just to defeated by natural talent like ushiwaka and kageyama, he was already struggling really bad with his skill. surely it was no excuse for him to try and hit him, but I don't think oikawa even knew what he was doing in that moment (based on how it was animated). anyways, it's great to have everyone back for the finale. you'll see how this loss build everyones character-- once again, super pumped for you guys to react to season 2, it's fantastic with lots of great moments and arcs.
there is nothing like natural talent except for height in case of volleyball. kageyama being a genius is coz of how much he practised not coz he was a genius.
Michael Jordan had one of the worst personalities in the game, so did Kobe (RIP). They still became legends in the game, "deserving" to win, even though they were definitely bullies. It sucks seeing reactors hate on a character that we like, but it is their authentic reaction so I guess we just gotta deal with it 😂
@@checkmate5338 Oikawa is the best individual player we see across the first 3 seasons. My point wasn't even about his skill, just about how the "best athletes" have bad personalities.
@@artprojectsix5280 He is not a better individual player than Ushijima come on now. Ushijima was already a national player at this point, Oikawa didn't even come close
man I like the normies overall but im genuinely getting tired of Marketa. She says a lot of dumb shit and has many bad takes regarding character and plot analysis in several shows they are watching. In this case, I don't think she'll ever understand how much of an amazing, relatable and complicated character Oikawa is because she’s always in her feels and too biased. Calling him a “dumb cunt” when he complicated Kageyama and Karasuno was uncalled for man.
They explained it like so manyy times now that why kageyama was the king of the court. They have shown the scene and the commentary sm times and u guys are still confused. It's not because of oikawa. That incident isn't even in kageyama's mind. He became arrogant because of his strong passion to win and the fact that he wanted to do everything by his own. Plsssssss get the storyline straight guys.
Oikawa comments aside.. I want to clarify when I said 'they were tired' I meant BOTH teams. I also said it became a stamina game at the end. A stamina game between both teams. - Suraj Also Oikawa will grow on us. Just gotta give it time. We got that aggresive Indiana sports team mentallity. Give us time to let the show break down what it's really about which is appreciating every player on every team equally.
we don't force you to like oikawa, like we love oikawa. we just want you to understand oikawa's character..if you understand oikawa's character you will understand why he is like that to kageyama, he doesn't bully kageyama. He's not a genius setter like kageyama...but he is great in his own way...in fact he tries hard to train to be the best setter. Oikawa is not a dictator on the team, his team even believes in Oikawa. Oikawa deserves to win
this ep will always get me sweating no matter how many times i watch it.. the last point especially is so important and carries sm impact even later on. really enjoyed the reactions!
I think I'm out for the meantime. I don't think that she's even trying the understand the different perspectives of each players. I know we all have our favorites but try to know them first. I know it's an anime but it's disappointing. He's such a good character to be treated badly. All he want to win, what's wrong with that? He works hard, he gives advice plus he never left his team even though other schools/powerhouse wants him. He's all around but why's everybody hates him for trying his best? I don't know anymore.. maybe I lack sleep lol.
Let's just help them understand guys. Don't get me wrong I'm an avid fan of the show too and it's hard hearing these things. But not everyone has the same impression and impressions are not meant to be right all the time anyway. Putting our frustrations in the comments are okay but let's not make it too far. If there's anything I know, it's that the Normies always get genuine reactions out there and it's not all the time they are in our favor. Let's keep helping them in this journey guys. I know they will see it differently as they make it all throughout the seasons :)
it makes me so happy to see you guys so into the hype of these matches. This show manages to make you care so much about these kids and the club no matter whether you actually care about volleyball or even sports at all
Seriously someone or the editors or something correct them . WTF bully him ????????? i get not everyone has to like oikawa but at least understand the story better .
Also, very thankful that the entire crew was back for the finale. Such a special show and such an amazing team of reactors. Thanks to everyone involved! This match always gets my heart pumping, and the final eating/crying scene always gets to me.
"they only lost bc they were tired" yeah, having enough stamina to play a full game is part of being an athlete. that's why they train it. not having enough stamina and not being able to push through exhaustion tends to make you play worse. and, believe it or not, karasuno aren't the only ones who are tired! the other side had to play the full game too! if karasuno can't hold out, that's on them. and, being tired wasn't the only reason (or even a major reason) why they lost. they lost because they were predictable and relied too much on their "secret weapon." saying they lost because they were tired is an excuse, and a bad one at that.
To commenters: you guys are letting your own biases get in the way of enabling the reactors to OWN their experience and journey with the show. Provide better context all you want, but you can’t “correct” an opinion. This may be hard for some of you to hear, but you don’t need to get pissed at every misconception, bias, and otherwise differing opinion than yours. The reason it’s difficult for a lot of the group to see the deeper aspects of Oikawa’s character is because (1) they have much limited information compared to all of you, (2) this is literally their IMMEDIATE reason. Most of you didn’t get to the point where you realized you actually liked Oikawa until you took a step back and processed his scenes and characterization, and (3) they are BIASED because they love Karasuno intensely and they are protective of them. Think of it less like they’re “hating” on Oikawa and more like they’re being fiercely loving toward Kageyama and Karasuno as a whole. Oikawa’s competitive spirit and snarkiness can definitely put someone who loves Karasuno on the defensive side. And Oikawa is MY favorite character. At the end of the day, it’s a cartoon. Chill.
It's very common, especially in men's volleyball, to go to the 30's. When the game is evenly matched, the rally point system ends up like the old point system, the first one to get 2 points win. But is not so easy
Idk why everyone watching this show becomes a toxic kageyama stan and thinks that he is the reason if karasuno wins and if he does something wrong it's because of other ppl. Because u guys love kageyama like a toxic fan u can't enjoy complex and relatable characters like oikawa and sm others which are gonna come ahead in the show. Because u just look at it in a way "he defeated kageyama so he is just not worth loving". This show is made to make u fall in love with all the characters and all teh teams
I don't get ittt!!! I really don't get it!!! This show is written so clearly , idk how still ppl make the mistake of misunderstanding the characters and the storyline. Like kageyama's faults, his insecutites, his developments in similar way oikawa's insecurities his faults, his resolve and development everything is written so beautifully. How are u guys still misunderstanding the storylinnneee!!!! Why do I feel nahid would have understood the show better
Bro on fucking god. that's what I'm trying to say like holy shit. Character development exists for a fucking reason. They barely know Oikawa at this point, give it time. I swear whenever it comes to people watching Haikyuu, there's always the dumbass fanbase that goes to every fucking episode with Oikawa in it JUST to see people's opinions. the instant it's something they mIsUnderSTaND or dISliKE they all start barking like some dogs. it's the worst, I can't believe I was so lucky to go open minded into this anime without EVER reading comments. Imagine getting all these stans shoved in your throat. jesus christ. why does everyone expect EVERY person to COMPLETELY understand everything from the get go? like ugh fuck off. nobody cares except when Oikawa is involved. Hate it so much. bunch of simps
Is this the equivalent of Rob from RTTV? The one who misunderstand everything and is bias? Also being tired is part of every sport its not an excuse for losing. Its one of the most important part of the sport to train for.
guys guys guys... that food scene at the end is soooo important!!!! Just because it is a quiet scene does not mean it is light. This show is not just about the hype of the game... please please please take a moment to actually WATCH. Some of you were laughing and joking about food and I was like crying inside... Please don't skip the seemingly small details of this series! Those are the elements that make this show unique. If you are only watching for the epic moments, you are really missing out! This show is very very real, if you have played competitive sports before, or have any kind of dreams/passions that you have been working so hard for, you can so so so relate.
I know how you feel, and I understand and agree completely.... But dont bother waisting ur precious heart heart into trying to get them to understand.... They literally dont read these comments, and even if they did I see little to no improvement, if you want to see genuine good reactions, go watch a channel like YaBoiRoshi or Otakudesune
Marketa needs to leave haikyuu reaction Or just learn to have a little open mind to understand perspective of various character. This is going to ruin the 2nd season and undermine oikawa's role in the anime.
Thank you for the reaction~! I was literally tired after watching this episode too, lol. So freaking hype and the drop after the high, I was tired. Really got me into volley ball too. I await the next one as I reluctantly go to school during the weekdays.
One thing Haikyuu is very good at is realism as close to the truth as possible. High school volleyball teams don't have such a vast repertoire, they aren't able to respond to every play. Karasuno still needs to work to be a better team. Seijoh at that time was a better team. Oikawa is like Rock Lee. He is pure hard work, repetition and determination. His story will still go a long way alongside Kageyama's story. And Ushijima (Wakatoshi) is pure talent and strength and you will meet him very soon. Can't wait for it! =)
They praised Oikawa and the other team all game and y'all are still on their ass for some random comments they're clearly hating on them for the lols and because they're the "opposing" team. Yes i know everyone is awesome in Haikyuu we don't hate anyone but they're just getting into it and being competitive it's just funnnnn guys.
hi Marketa & the normies, if you want to see more Nekoma I suggest you watch OVA 1 before season 2. it focuses on them and introduces a new team member :)
Usually haikyuu fans are really nice and sweet but somehow the comment sections on these videos managed to amass the rudest ones. Like literally chill. Or maybe it's just oikawa stans that are the worst.
Fans need to calm down... Seriously you guys make it sound like they are hating or something... Guys are enjoy the heck out of the show but you want them to enjoy it the same way you guys do... Its weird
Stop watching things if you aren't going to pay attention "he literally beat his ass" excuse me? he LITERALLY didn't. Oikawa was a mentor of Kageyama in middle school and when he saw this younger player getting better and catching up to him already when he is already under pressure to beat another genius Ushiwaka despite all his hard work he had ONE (1) moment of weakness and stress where he lashed out and ATTEMPTED to hit him but was stopped and was shocked by his own behavior. It was ONE event. There was never any beatings ever. period. beatings HAVE. NOT. HAPPENED. Also Kageyama's trust issues stem from him being a demanding egocentrist and alienating his middle school team, not because Oikawa lashed out literally once in middle school.
I think people need to chill with the comments, through the first season I was super imparcial and hated everyone that played against karasuno (Oikawa specially) but the anime have a great character development through the rest of the seasons and we could get to know better the players from the other teams. Just relax people and be patient.
Its not even that . They dont have to like certain characters . However they are going off with their own head canon . They keep insisting that Oikawa is a selfish player when the show has stated multiple times already that he is the most selfless player there is . Why Do some of them keep insisting that Oikawa is a bully and he was the reason kageyama was a horrible team player in the beginning ?
@@jman593 Even though I don't think Oikawa is THE responsible for Kageyama's behavior, I do think he contributed to the development of that behavior, kageyama admired Oikawa and he always denied him the possibility of learn from him, so that feed that feeling of selfishness that kageyama developed, everything was his responsibility and he could not trust in the rest. I do agree with you that the anime has already shown that Oikawa isn't a selfish player, arrogant yes, extremely, but he always took every opportunity he had to make his team shine.
fr im starting to as well, i was not expecting this toxicity at all dude. it's sad that im seeing this pop up almost in any video that has oikawa involved in it. says a lot about the fandom
Maybe marketa got cheated on and dumped by a guy called oikawa and that's why she hates and despise this character so much lmao That's the only explanation I got for this hate honestly
Oikawa alone in this match is far more experienced and better than karasuno as a whole. If karasuno had won this match, it would look like a match fix.
Dont wanna be that guy, but them talking over some of the most important moments of the episode is....idk if disrespectful is a good word for it. Yeah the show is about volleyball but it's very poetic in the sense that everyone has their own dreams with obstacles to overcome, its about personal growth and mindset. They are very interested in the action which is great to see. But it seems any kind of the metaphor, imagary, and meanings behind important character developing scenes just *whoosh* right over them. Again, it could be the fact that most of us watch Haikyuu alone and is able to see and understand the meanings behind it while watching in a group is easier to just get hyped about the action. I just want to say that Haikyuu isnt an animated game of Monday Night Football (just for reference)... You are witnessing a piece of literature written by one of the best writer arguably in Japanese manga. (It just happens to be about volleyball) Yes, get hyped with the action, we all do. But please understand that's only half of the show, I want you all to enjoy the show to its fullest.
This… is surprisingly accurate. Not to blame the a Normies, as it’s honestly really hard to get out of the hype moments and into the sublime and slower beats when there’s a couch full of people, but yeah, Haikyuu is definitely a very human story. One that happens to be about volleyball and is written very well. People all too often mistake “complex” for “good” these days, and while Haikyuu isn’t really the former, it is absolutely the latter.
This was a quarterfinal. Remember that Karasuno had a reputation as the fallen champions before this tournament. They had no rep to warrant a strong seed. Nobody in universe had a reason to expect them to be this strong.
I'd like to sign a petition to cancel this show for these guys. Majority of character development & how a character is written goes over their head. Special petition to cancel Marketa too needed. She loves Bakugo but think Oikawa is a physical bully. Well, that itself explain how much attention she pays.
I really enjoyed this reaction. I hate to see people believe that their protagonists are always going to be the best. I like to see how they realize that this is not going to always work. Now if they are going to calm the hatred they feel towards other characters just for being competitive?
Let the normies grasp their own conclusion, even if you think they are wrong. You can also write your point being civil so in the end they can understand your pov.
That’s not gonna work. They made up their mind that for whatever reason every other team must be the villains. Particularly Oikawa for no real reason other than Marketa is stupid and couldn’t read the subs correctly.
Aaaaand we're back to the bullshit, what a shame. As some other people pointed out, someone should tell them directly all the things that they're wrong about. One thing is disliking some characters, that's perfectly fine, but they're straight up making shit up.
as long as y'all eventually understand that in the end Oikawa was right especially when talking about Kageyama's PAST and you eventually just understand Oikawa in this it'll be okay lol. Oikawa is just really snarky, insecure, and knows where to hit you where it hurts. you obvs dont need to like him but I appreciate the respect some have. also I felt the exact same way when Karasuno lost like. I understood why but man was I sad. im gonna continue binge watching your reactions bc y'all are one of my fave channels!!
I find it really hard to say this because I really like all of you and Rob is just plain annoying especially when watching haikyuu but even he understood Oikawa's character more than some of you did lmao Guys you need to understand that having biases doesn't really work on Haikyuu since it's focused towards growth, and not of a single team but everyone. There's plenty of people who are competitive and are way better than the guys of Karasuno, that doesn't mean they are bad people. Oikawa at this point was clearly better than them, and not in a physical way but also a mental and intellectual play. I love my boys of Karasuno and I always want them to win but it's impossible for me to not like the rest. It's okay not to like a character, there's people who don't like Oikawa for various reasons but his personality in game or his talent is often not one of them. You can't just say he didn't deserve to win, because he clearly did.
Outside of that one incident where Oikawa was having a breakdown and moved to hit Kageyama, he never "bullied" him. Where is this misunderstanding coming from? Some of the folks on the couch have major blinders when it comes to Kageyama and they need to rewatch the beginning since they've forgotten how terrible he was at the start. There is a REASON he was called The King/Dictator. He was a terrible teammate and only focused on winning, without caring about others. Oikawa on the other hand actually cares about his team and wants to bring out the best. Yes Kageyama has major growth, but ya'll are majorly biased when it comes to him and completely disregard how he treated others. Kageyama was the bully you believe Oikawa to be.
Well, and why was Kagayama turning out that way? Because he didn't connect with the team from the get go, and part of the reason why was Oikawa's attitude. Yeah, he never deliberately bullied Kageyama, but he did exclude him, and considering how socially awkward Kageyama is....
@@swanpride Oikawa was only there for one year of Kageyama's middle school career and he mostly ignored him while Kageyama followed him around demanding to be taught. We know why Kageyama became the tyrant king and it has nothing to do with Oikawa, it happened after. Kageyama mostly didn't even register that Oikawa didn't like him, he barely had a reaction to him almost slapping him away and he was still following him around and handing him tissues afterward
The reason why they lost wasn’t only because they were simply tired, but because they kept using the same quick over and over to the point where it started to become predictable so that’s how they were able to beat them. Also oikawa isn’t a bad guy he’s just a competitive ass dude. He’s also really good because he brings out the best in everyone so that’s how that one guy (the one who received “everything”) was so good.
Yeah overall Seijoh was just a more refined team. Karasuno just kind of stitched themselves together in season 1 while the team Seijoh is already an established powerhouse.
@@kelton8852 yea pretty much that’s what karasuno turns into the future lol
@@joe_the_goatt yup, if they think Karasuno is nasty now then I can’t wait to see how they react to the team in the Spring tournament
@@DWargs I wanna know what athlete ever specializes in bringing out the best in their OPPONENTS
That would be a terrible quality to have as a player
why the hell marketa blaming oikawa for making kageyama a "king", that doesn't make sense. She loves Bakugou who was an actual bully that did much worse, but dislikes Oikawa for being a bully (Which isn’t even true)
He literally bullied izu for 10 years, bringing him down, and even telling him to commit suicide. And the worst part is he doesn't even apologise for that, for years of abuse and people still like him more than deku, who is an amazing and mentally strong main character, which gotta admit is annoying
@@kineretgilboa2391 Because its anime and characters grow. Just because Bakugou hasn't apologized for it yet doesn't mean he won't and his actions have done more than just make up for it in the manga. Besides, Bakugou is a terrible example. People love characters like Vegeta who has committed mass genocide in the past. "Bullying" in anime is hardly the worst thing anyone's done.
@@jacobnegrete3892 yeah i know, i mean i do kin eren after all, and while yes i know bakugo gets better its kinda annoying when deku just lets him walk all over him.
Obviously i don't hate bakugo he's actually one of my favorites but im not gonna pretend he's perfect
She’s always the worst.
@@kineretgilboa2391 wow i've never seen comment like you before, but yupp that's right!! actually people who have mature mentality won't say that bakugou is perfect (after character development too) like most people did. You will see or feel contradictory things from his personality. But.. when people like him too much, it's like everything about him is right and perfect.
I’m a bit confused.. Marketa loves Bakugo, who was an actual bully that did much worse, but dislikes Oikawa for being a bully? (Which isn’t true. He never actively tried to torment Kageyama) And this is coming from someone who’s favorite character is Bakugo as well lmao.
It really isn’t fair to hold someone’s mistakes at ages 14-15 against them forever, this applies to both characters I’ve mentioned. You don’t have to like Oikawa, but at least spare him the same compassion you’ve given to other characters.
i was thinking the same thing 🙄 i also love bakugou. but if oikawa is a bully then he must be the devil lol
and man if my friends/family held the things i did at that age against me, i would be very very mmm alone haha
This! One was a constant bully who belittled, tormented, and assaulted Deku for years, even encouraging him to kill himself. The other was an overwhelmed, insecure upperclassmen who was stopped from making a terrible physical mistake and has since only dissed Kageyama with petty, childish, over the top remarks… If one is forgiven and appreciated for his complexities, so should the other one. Especially when both characters are renown for working themselves to death to BE the BEST. Anything less makes her and the others seem hypocritical, which I’m sure they aren’t.
nah bakugo is a lost cause pls don't compare him to my boy tobio 🤢
@@TheeEarthQueen no one did haha
Exactly, I'm neutral towards both Bakugou and Oikawa in general but if people paid attention then Oikawa actually apologised to Kageyama after his panic attack. Bakugou has never done so, in that regard, at least in the anime, and he was an actual bully. Funny to see the double standards some people have.
You need to remember this is a show about Volleyball, and individual player journey's/growth. This is not a show exclusively about a single schools volleyball club. Two of you really need to remember this.
I don’t make excuses for people because I’ve seen groups that pick up different points a lot better, but the Normies have always had a habit of talking through a lot of important scenes and being relatively oblivious. I don’t know that explaining everything will even change how they experience it (Oikawa in particular), but I’m sure the same discussions will be had in the comments later on when events or plays come back up, or when characters make continued appearances. To be fair, they do a lot of stuff.
Unless one people need kkkkkkkkkksks
this is SO IMPORTANT, it's literally the whole premise of haikyuu tbh
Oh relax. Let them enjoy the show whatever way they want. Y’all are buzzkills
Sighh yeeess mother
Really respect Suraj for trying to see things from different points of views and for trying to understand different character's motivations!
Yes! Suraj always tries to understand every character, he's pretty smart and very funny too
Thank god, he is in those haikyuu reactions man
@@abdulkerimburak1926 i think people just like whichever normies like the shows they themselves like, lol. i've seen people say the exact opposite about suraj on other shows
@@jamesliggins891 lol. soo true. People always hate on Suraj.
I think he's read the comment section on these videos & knows how fucking brutal these fans are towards them if they say something 'controversial'. So I don't blame him.
Yeahh at least Suraj Understand the Characters
A humble request: Dustin (the editor) or mods, can you please clarify for everyone that Oikawa never physically "beat" Kageyama or bullied him outside of that one incident (and no, petty disses and over the top nicknames is not a form of bullying, or else half of Karasuno bully each other). There were a lot of relevant factors that led to Oikawa snapping and attempting to strike Kageyama (and even he didn't realize he was doing it until Iwa stopped him) and he clearly looked shocked at his own actions. It's not right, no, but they are teenagers; I've picked fights for less when I was fourteen. Again, they are taking that one incident and somehow making it into a daily struggle of torture for Kageyama. It was not.
Also, Oikawa was never a selfish player after Iwa talked to him about having a team with 6 strong being better. He's the opposite of selfish. He trusts his team and caters to their strengths. Kageyama, on the other hand, was a selfish player. This is acknowledged by MULTIPLE people, even on his current team early on in the series. He has grown out of that mindset thanks to Hinata and the rest of Karasuno, which Oikawa was acknowledging in this episode. This is a good thing! Kageyama is an amazing character because of this substational growth. Don't erase his past just because you like him, and then push his flaws onto Oikawa (who already has his own flaws).
Please, the Normies have so much head canon at this point, I feel someone needs to gently and patiently set them straight or it will snowball into the rest of the series and affect how they view other characters.
YES PLEASE & THANK YOU 🙏🏼
Please editor 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
pleassseee doooo
The ignorant misconceptions are a staple though lol
I don't think the mods/editor care that much. They had multiple episodes to correct the misleading/misjudging and it hasn't happened yet, so eh. Maybe the mods have the same opinion of Oikawa.
You guys are under the impression that Oikawa beat Tobio, and that's not true!! Actually, Hinata, Daichi, and even Suga have hit Kageyama far more than Oikawa has.
Kageyama's reason for his trust issues stem from his OWN upbringing, and his failure as a setter to adjust to others. We see it on-court all the time, where the setter says "my spiker just couldn't hit properly", and they never take the blame; similar to Kageyama's mentality of Kita 1st.
Oikawa fanboys need to calm down. People can have different opinions. Oikawa sucks. End of Discussion.
@@checkmate5338 bruh at least make a different comment each time 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️. Lazy ass
@@checkmate5338 you can dislike Oikawa, that dosen't mean he beat kageyama, and is the reason of his mistrust.
@@checkmate5338 you are just actually incorrect that's just what it is sure you may not like the character I don't care if you don't like the character but understand the character to hate him
@@checkmate5338 There's a difference between disliking a character and disrespecting his win. He worked hard for years to get to that point and even then it was a fair match, and blaming him for Kageyama's temper and saying he didn't deserve to win because of one time (When he wasn't mentally in the right place) he _almost_ hit Kageyama. Not to mention he was only 14-15 at the time, and plus Kageyama looked like he barely knew what was going on anyway.
They watch the whole game and even said they played a good game then Oikawa didn't deserve to win???! Also, all players are tired, this does not a provide a reason that they lost just because of it.
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Oikawa and his team deserved the win. Being tired is no excuse for a team, both of them have been on the court for same time and have put the same effort to connect the ball. Oikawa being labelled as a "bad guy" doesn't come as a surprise, but a "bully" just because of that one incident doesn't seem fair. There's much more to him if you try to look.
tobio has trust issues because of his middle school team not because of Oikawa
It stems from Oikawa, as Oikawa bore the same personality before being lectured by Iwaizumi. Not to mention constant conditioning from how Oikawa acts in order for Kageyama to learn that way.
He didn't get trust issues from his final match at Kitagawa Daichi... if it wasn't already evident, he has had trust issues long before. Before even their very first match against Hinata's pathetic team in the tournament, Kageyama displayed immense distrust in his hitters to convert sets into kills through the egotistical way that he plays the game, forcing hitters to adjust to a playstyle they could not physically adapt to.
This has likely occurred in the previous season as well, since Kageyama had been the official setter for the team since his 2nd year after Oikawa left.
Being tired is PART OF THE GAME. Too bad if you're tired, you still lost. Maybe it's a factor, but it DOES NOT provide an excuse, especially because the coach can do something to manage the load.
EXACTLY, why tf do people think we do cardio all the damn time in sports then? We just like being out of breath n shit? No it's because if you can't play until the end then you're gon get booted off the court. you got it right on the head it's never an excuse, not in sports. maybe if you're sick or just recently recovered from an injury I'll allow it lol but volleyball is a TEAM sport anyways so 🤷🏽♂️
“they just lost cause their tired” .. haha what, both sides were. the only one was probably Kunimi lol
“he doesn’t deserve to win” why? cause he’s competitive and works hard?
“he’s a bully” well then kags and tsukki don’t deserve it either 🤷🏻♀️
I don't really find Kageyama a bully as much as he is a control freak and (can be) demeaning. But it's not like he goes out of his way to actually bully other people
@@jamesliggins891 haha i don’t see him as one either. same with oikawa.
Oikawa was the one who taught kageyama that serve right ??
they just dumb
@@charleyjamesjonathaniv4988 wait which one?? Last time I recall oikawa tried to hit kageyama when he asked him to help with his serve
If they hate Oikawa this much, I’m pretty sure they’re gonna despise Ushiwaka.
Thats EXACTLY true.... Which is why I'm not gonna watch s3 reactions.... Cuz he my fav character
@@Minej_Mosuris I love Ushiwaka. In fact, I love all the characters in Haikyuu. It’s gonna be so painful to watch them react if this is their approach to the characters.
@@JGA2758 I love most of the characters aswell... But Imma just but it bluntly, im a REEEEEALLY shallow person, so I always (or at least in the majority of cases) love over powered characters, no matter if they the bad guy, good guy, etc... 😂😅... Hence why Ushiwaka is my favourite, he doesnt have much of a story, his character has ALMOST no depth, and his power is his only incredible skill, but I love him😂
@@Minej_Mosuris Lol, I love overpowered characters too.
@@JGA2758 eeeey, lesgo! 😂
Was Marquette trying to claim that Kageyama didn’t have trust issues? Did she even pay attention to the show?
Lmao yeah right? She clearly didn't understand the story
I really wish they understood Oikawa’s intentions and he’s far from being a bully he’s just snarky and hardworking 😭😭😭
His team loves him and fully supports him. They trust him and he trusts them. If that oooone thing never happened with Kags they would like him. It's like hating Jordan or Kobe for being cocky, then backing it up.
@@DJKuroh disagrees, they disliked him before "that one moment". Because he's not just cocky, he's a petty annoying character. There are other characters in the show that is jocky but not a bitch about it. Never understood why so many people like him, and I find it refreshing that for once someone doesn't fan boy/girl over this guy.
@@kimvidarlund where the hell did you get that he was disliked they never stated that he was disliked he was a hard-working goofy guy that was all it was he only had issues with kageyama, and was snarky. What show have you been watching I've never once heard that anyone hated him in Canon that he worked with
I mean to be fair there’s always a character in every anime series where you hate in the beginning and end up liking towards the mid/end
he could still be annoying at times
They need to understand the true beauty of Haikyuu, that every team gets some spotlight and development, with different personalities, play styles, but with the same drive to win. Not that Karasuno can be their favorite, but other teams exist.
Being tired is a big factor of EVERY sport. If you're lagging behind the other team, that's your fault for not training hard enough, or bad energy conservation, etc. In this case, both teams were tired in the end, except for Kunimi ig, but that doesn't change the fact that everyone else was reaching their limit.
Oikawa is completely misunderstood. In middle school, he worked hard to become a good setter since he isn't and wasn't a genius. That was not enough to defeat Ushiwaka, nor was it enough to calm his panic from the upcoming Kageyama. Not one, but two players threatened to greatly surpass him with their talent, causing him to have the natural reaction of being scared and losing his mind a bit, leading to the almost hit of Kageyama. Kageyama also became a dictator on his own accord, not due to trust issues with Oikawa. Oikawa, with his wacky persona, can bring out the maximum power of any team he's on, but Kageyama still has the remnants of his old habits tied to him, so when pressured he reverted back to speeding up his tosses, and putting much pressure on himself.
A lot of this is what other people said, and there's no way I understood all this on my first go, but other reactors seemed to gather more than this. First reaction blues I suppose.
"Oikawa didnt deserve to win" im literally gonna-
Also YOU like bakugo while hate OIKAWA W H A T
Yeahh right
Y'all talking about Marketa but besides Suraj and maybe Rana, I'm not seeing any of them recognize Oikawa's greatness, they all are hating this awesome character lmao
This is unfortunate but like a guy said before, it's their authentic reaction so yeah, we gotta deal with it
Marketa is just the worst. It’s hard to pay attention to anyone else when one generates all the stupid.
Agree with you bro. I really don't get why people are mad about their reaction. I mean. Even Coach Donnie, one of the best reactors of Haikyuu hated Oikawa at the beginning. It was up until he reached the EP where Oikawa's backstory was showed that he started appreciating Oikawa.
@@LanceVanceDance214 the difference is that while coach Donny does not like Oikawa personally, he still recognises his skill and talents. Coach even said he would make Oikawa a starter if he was real
@@cuongquoc5877 and the difference is Coach is an actual volleyball player and these guys are reactors. That's why I understand why they react like that. There only on their 1st season and yet, people want them to instantly like Oikawa wherein the 1st season focuses on the individual storyline of Karasuno. One thing that is great about the Haikyuu is you get to see the journey and growth for each character.
@@LanceVanceDance214 i read people's comments every week. They do not expect the Normies to like Oikawa right away, but they expect the Normies to understand and not making any weird headcanon, which is something the Normies are doing right now. The plot of Haikyuu right now is relatively simple and if the Normies can't comprehend it then i wonder how they woyld wrap their heads when S4 come
This is why I hate group reactions, there is always someone who thinks is funny to tell jokes during serious and genuine sad moments.
There’s literally nothing wrong with that lol. Not everyone is gonna cry, some people make humor out of it.
It’s a freaking REACTION. Do you want them to just sit there till the end???
The issue lies when they get lost about details because of it. Mitchell's talk do something on your action but don't hinder the story that you're literally trying to sit there and watch you're trying to react to a story at the end of the day and if you're just going to ignore it and then complain about it then you're just like the game grumps. Oh God they're The game grumps for anime
Marketa starts talking bad on Oikawa for acknowledging Kageyamas growth because of the one instance between the two when Oikawa lost it. Then in the very next scene starts giggling when Hinata grabs Kageyama by the collar and starts screaming in his face 🙃
I'm reposting this since it seems to be relevant for every video now apparently.
Does Marketa have any idea, compared to this one mistake Oikawa almost made how borderline abusive Kageyama her "baby" was to his team mates? Even in Karasuno, its a stroke of luck that Hinata just brushes off his insults and doesn't take them to heart but imagine if Hinata had anxieties or was sensitive to it. All these fun jokes of Kageyama swearing at him won't seem so fun anymore.
I like Kageyama but wow does the fandom love to excuse his shitty behavior or minimize it. Do you know how tyrannical a genius player has to be before his team throws away their chance at winning the tournament?
Also I've always thought given the distance between him and kageyama in that scene and how Oikawa was crouching that he was going to hit the volleyball in Kageyama's hand not like his face.
Also while it might be good to help your team mate learn a new skill nobody is owed their upperclassmen's time.
Part of the reason that Hinata is unbothered is that he has insanely high emotional IQ, which is something I hadn't realized until I was closer to finishing the manga. He doesn't take any of Kageyama's insults to heart, and is only insulted when Kageyama doesn't trust him with the ball. I probably should have realized this about Hinata after how he ropes in Yachi in the next season, but yeah, Kageyama is definitely more of a bully than Oikawa 😂
ty for saying this again. i’m tired of ppl holding this over oikawa but disregard kags behavior towards his team. i also feel like him hitting the ball out of his hand makes more sense. that’s what i saw but my brother said nawh he was bout to smack him lol. i wished it was confirm for sure but oh well.
thank you for commenting this
@@ICavalcadeI You worded this really well :-) Even I realised it the same way as you when he helped Yachi out in S2, and I was like, "Yeah please I don'tthink we should call Hinata stupid, he might fall short in academics but this dude is very life smart." It becomes even clearer in the manga timeskip (I won't spoil on that).
Kags was an asshole to his peers, Oikawa was an asshole to his underclassman. Oikawa is a bigger asshole. And no, Oikawa was OBVIOUSLY aiming for his face, Jesus 🤦♂️ They SPECIFICALLY zoomed on Kags face. And also why the hell Iwa tried to stop him, if he was aiming for the ball? Like what? Just stop with this bullshit.
Marketa loves Bakugo (Who is an actual f-ing bully)
Marketa hates Oikawa (Who didnt even bully kageyama)
Click on the video and first look at the comments..see that they are about how they did not understand the single thing about Oikawa..leaves cause I can not watch them completely miss the point, the backstory and the story of probably the most comlex, realistic and most interesting character in this show..
I'm looking at the dislike numbers first and i know something is wrong 🤣
Same. I honestly decided to stop watching this particular reaction series. But I had to check this episode if something got thru somehow. But seeing the comments, I guess not. Haha
Not even Shiratorizawa impressed me as Auba Jousai did. This team was fucking beast.PERIOD.
Same, Shiratorizawa is a collection of great players, Seijoh is a TEAM.
So cute, the normies think Seijoh could actually win the Nationals. They have no idea what monsters are on that stage😂
some bigger “bullies” to overcome lol
@just kayyy I said the rivals get stronger and stronger. That ain't no spoiler, it's literally every shounen anime.😂😂
@just kayyy your just bringing more attention to it now u pointed it out 😂
you should really stop hating on oikawa, he is just another highschooler that lost his way because of the unfairness he feels in the face of genius,,,, AND WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH HIM "DESERVING" TO WIN OR NOT
right, he made one mistake while kags treated his teammates like crap… so why does he deserve it more than oikawa? …. if we’re going off their past mistakes here. which we shouldn’t cause i mean come on.
@@blah409 True but being rude because u want to win, imo, isn't as bad as literally trying to hit someone because you're mad they're showing u up in skill.
@@vallano8970 he wasn’t just “rude”. belittling someone’s skill cause their not at your level instead of trying to act like a teammate for 3 years…. i mean that could damage someone’s mental health. you just don’t talk to ppl like that. it stills affects kindaichi… and i’m not justifying oikawas behavior but he was also a kid going thur his own struggles and he loss control that one moment. he couldn’t even believe he went that far. it wasn’t just a causal “oh he’s better than me so let me smack him” . he was internally struggling with not ever being good enough. the pressure build up and he felt like he was going to be replace. that moment was big for him cause he grew and learned from it to become the player he is now.
@@blah409 belittling is literally being rude, no need for semantics or word play to attempt to make it seem worse than it was. Also it wasn't for "3 years" so seriously stop being over dramatic. He was a baby in year 1 it wasn't until hes second year when Oikawa left that he start having an ego because he realized how good he was. Nor have we been given ANY reason in the show or manga to believe that he was CONSTANTLY being mad 24/7 all day everyday. It's funny how with kageyma you give him no slack, or understand/sympathize with the struggles he was going through, yet for Oikawa you literally justify physical violence with "he didn't realize". Which If it weren't for it being stopped, would of 100% escalated. Idgaf if a guy says he smacked his wife and didn't "realize" until after, it still shows serious issues. You clearly can't view this from an unbiased perspective. I love Oikawa a LOT. But the notion that an ego that led to rudely asking your teammates to do better is as bad or worse than literal physical violence is RIDICULOUS.
@@vallano8970 i sympathize with kags too. i love him. i understand why he did all that. sorry your right, i got the years wrong. and again i’m not justifying oikawa’s or kags behavior. i’m not saying whose worse because of their actions. i see both their side. i’m just tired of ppl holding that against oikawa but let kags off for his toxic behavior. it’s not like oikawa is going around slapping ppl. i do NOT think physical violence is better than being “rude”. but when you talk to ppl like that, it affects them. verbal abuse is a thing. that situation still affects kags and kindaichi.
and to compare a husband hitting his wife is diff than a 14-15 yr old having a mental breakdown… it’s not so black and white. it depends on the context.
also yes of course the situation would of escalated and i don’t even know how they would handle that. what’s dramatic is ppl acting like something did happen, like he sent kags flying. he apologized for it and started changing. i don’t know what else ppl want out of him. and same with kags, he’s growing too but ppl talk more about oikawa’s mistakes and hold it against him and disregard kags behavior.
i love all the characters. i’m definitely an oikawa stan but i’m not delusional. i know his personality isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. i just don’t like the misinterpretation of his character and the double standards.
Funny how you tend to hate Oikawa when he actually is a way better human being than what Kageyama has been up until now, at least for the moment… First HE NERVER BULLIED KAGEYAMA like Marketa seems to believe, and on top of that He’s pretty cool with literally everybody except for Kageyama and Ushiwaka (for the reasons we know…) And even for that: He would call Ushiwaka « Chan » to get on his nerves (which poorly works) and refuse to help Kageyama when He would ask for advise… That’s all… (yes He snapped ONCE and tried to hit Kageyama out of despair, and I guess anyone who’s been a teen already can understand how young people can sometimes be unstable when emotions are too hard to handle) Oh and He’s conscious of his own skills and potential and is still able to recognize the strength of those above him… While in the other hand, Kageyama was said several times to be a SELFISH player before coming to Karasuno, one that would mistreat his teammates (and it actually looks way more like bullying than what Oikawa ever did to Kageyama), badmouth them and be super arrogant…
So yeah, you guys failed to get a lot of Oikawa’s personality… And it wouldn’t be a big deal if you didn’t spend so much time badmouthing him for nothing…
guys oikawa never beat kagayama! 🥲 suraj said himself i remember, he lost himself in that moment and it was a heat of the moment type of thing. you have to consider how difficult it was for him to work so hard just to defeated by natural talent like ushiwaka and kageyama, he was already struggling really bad with his skill. surely it was no excuse for him to try and hit him, but I don't think oikawa even knew what he was doing in that moment (based on how it was animated). anyways, it's great to have everyone back for the finale. you'll see how this loss build everyones character-- once again, super pumped for you guys to react to season 2, it's fantastic with lots of great moments and arcs.
there is nothing like natural talent except for height in case of volleyball. kageyama being a genius is coz of how much he practised not coz he was a genius.
Michael Jordan had one of the worst personalities in the game, so did Kobe (RIP). They still became legends in the game, "deserving" to win, even though they were definitely bullies. It sucks seeing reactors hate on a character that we like, but it is their authentic reaction so I guess we just gotta deal with it 😂
Facts.
Oikawa fanboys need to calm down. People can have different opinions. Oikawa sucks. End of Discussion.
@@checkmate5338 no he doesn't lol
@@checkmate5338 Oikawa is the best individual player we see across the first 3 seasons. My point wasn't even about his skill, just about how the "best athletes" have bad personalities.
@@artprojectsix5280 He is not a better individual player than Ushijima come on now. Ushijima was already a national player at this point, Oikawa didn't even come close
man I like the normies overall but im genuinely getting tired of Marketa. She says a lot of dumb shit and has many bad takes regarding character and plot analysis in several shows they are watching. In this case, I don't think she'll ever understand how much of an amazing, relatable and complicated character Oikawa is because she’s always in her feels and too biased. Calling him a “dumb cunt” when he complicated Kageyama and Karasuno was uncalled for man.
im new to this channel but who's marketa again? is it the girl beside the man holding an oikawa plushie??
They explained it like so manyy times now that why kageyama was the king of the court. They have shown the scene and the commentary sm times and u guys are still confused. It's not because of oikawa. That incident isn't even in kageyama's mind. He became arrogant because of his strong passion to win and the fact that he wanted to do everything by his own. Plsssssss get the storyline straight guys.
Happy to see y'all so invested into this show. It only gets better and better!
So invested? They are way off for some characters
Oikawa comments aside.. I want to clarify when I said 'they were tired' I meant BOTH teams. I also said it became a stamina game at the end. A stamina game between both teams. - Suraj
Also Oikawa will grow on us. Just gotta give it time. We got that aggresive Indiana sports team mentallity. Give us time to let the show break down what it's really about which is appreciating every player on every team equally.
we dont want you guys to like oikawa or love him or whatever, just understand the character, its not that hard.
@@gemelwalters2942 Maybe subbed anime is too hard for them.
Honestly I feel like you should just ignore these haters in the comments. They’re weird, angry, bitter little weeb trolls.
we don't force you to like oikawa, like we love oikawa. we just want you to understand oikawa's character..if you understand oikawa's character you will understand why he is like that to kageyama, he doesn't bully kageyama. He's not a genius setter like kageyama...but he is great in his own way...in fact he tries hard to train to be the best setter. Oikawa is not a dictator on the team, his team even believes in Oikawa. Oikawa deserves to win
this ep will always get me sweating no matter how many times i watch it.. the last point especially is so important and carries sm impact even later on. really enjoyed the reactions!
I think I'm out for the meantime. I don't think that she's even trying the understand the different perspectives of each players. I know we all have our favorites but try to know them first. I know it's an anime but it's disappointing. He's such a good character to be treated badly. All he want to win, what's wrong with that? He works hard, he gives advice plus he never left his team even though other schools/powerhouse wants him. He's all around but why's everybody hates him for trying his best? I don't know anymore.. maybe I lack sleep lol.
Let's just help them understand guys. Don't get me wrong I'm an avid fan of the show too and it's hard hearing these things. But not everyone has the same impression and impressions are not meant to be right all the time anyway. Putting our frustrations in the comments are okay but let's not make it too far. If there's anything I know, it's that the Normies always get genuine reactions out there and it's not all the time they are in our favor. Let's keep helping them in this journey guys. I know they will see it differently as they make it all throughout the seasons :)
it makes me so happy to see you guys so into the hype of these matches. This show manages to make you care so much about these kids and the club no matter whether you actually care about volleyball or even sports at all
Oikawa literally never bullied kageyama?????? Like what??
Oikawa is not a bully 💀💀
Seriously someone or the editors or something correct them . WTF bully him ????????? i get not everyone has to like oikawa but at least understand the story better .
Also, very thankful that the entire crew was back for the finale. Such a special show and such an amazing team of reactors. Thanks to everyone involved! This match always gets my heart pumping, and the final eating/crying scene always gets to me.
"they only lost bc they were tired" yeah, having enough stamina to play a full game is part of being an athlete. that's why they train it. not having enough stamina and not being able to push through exhaustion tends to make you play worse. and, believe it or not, karasuno aren't the only ones who are tired! the other side had to play the full game too! if karasuno can't hold out, that's on them. and, being tired wasn't the only reason (or even a major reason) why they lost. they lost because they were predictable and relied too much on their "secret weapon." saying they lost because they were tired is an excuse, and a bad one at that.
**Not me laughing when they were crying and eating**😂😂😂❤
I don't know the name of the girl who is holding Tsukki pillow. She said Oikawa is a bully but did she forget Tsukki is a bully and ahole too.
Marketa, the mail order bride, and her awful commentary.
She is the worst member
To commenters: you guys are letting your own biases get in the way of enabling the reactors to OWN their experience and journey with the show. Provide better context all you want, but you can’t “correct” an opinion.
This may be hard for some of you to hear, but you don’t need to get pissed at every misconception, bias, and otherwise differing opinion than yours.
The reason it’s difficult for a lot of the group to see the deeper aspects of Oikawa’s character is because (1) they have much limited information compared to all of you, (2) this is literally their IMMEDIATE reason. Most of you didn’t get to the point where you realized you actually liked Oikawa until you took a step back and processed his scenes and characterization, and (3) they are BIASED because they love Karasuno intensely and they are protective of them.
Think of it less like they’re “hating” on Oikawa and more like they’re being fiercely loving toward Kageyama and Karasuno as a whole. Oikawa’s competitive spirit and snarkiness can definitely put someone who loves Karasuno on the defensive side.
And Oikawa is MY favorite character. At the end of the day, it’s a cartoon. Chill.
"YoU bUlLiEd HiM aNd bEat HiS A**"........
Hinata proceeds to beat kageyama up😂😂😂
Ok I am gonna keep watching u guys, that hinata plushie better always be exactly in that corner!! 😆🤣😂 lol
6:35 "i wonder whats the highest score in volley ball ever" the highest ever for now is 44-42
basically nearly 2 sets in 1 XD
It's very common, especially in men's volleyball, to go to the 30's. When the game is evenly matched, the rally point system ends up like the old point system, the first one to get 2 points win. But is not so easy
Man, Karasuno won in the original, Niki really messed this all up >:(
Idk why everyone watching this show becomes a toxic kageyama stan and thinks that he is the reason if karasuno wins and if he does something wrong it's because of other ppl. Because u guys love kageyama like a toxic fan u can't enjoy complex and relatable characters like oikawa and sm others which are gonna come ahead in the show. Because u just look at it in a way "he defeated kageyama so he is just not worth loving". This show is made to make u fall in love with all the characters and all teh teams
I don't get ittt!!! I really don't get it!!! This show is written so clearly , idk how still ppl make the mistake of misunderstanding the characters and the storyline. Like kageyama's faults, his insecutites, his developments in similar way oikawa's insecurities his faults, his resolve and development everything is written so beautifully. How are u guys still misunderstanding the storylinnneee!!!!
Why do I feel nahid would have understood the show better
Why are Oikawa fans so over-dramatic in these comments? Not everyone has to love the same character as you. Let the Normies react authentically.
Bro on fucking god. that's what I'm trying to say like holy shit. Character development exists for a fucking reason. They barely know Oikawa at this point, give it time. I swear whenever it comes to people watching Haikyuu, there's always the dumbass fanbase that goes to every fucking episode with Oikawa in it JUST to see people's opinions. the instant it's something they mIsUnderSTaND or dISliKE they all start barking like some dogs. it's the worst, I can't believe I was so lucky to go open minded into this anime without EVER reading comments. Imagine getting all these stans shoved in your throat. jesus christ. why does everyone expect EVERY person to COMPLETELY understand everything from the get go? like ugh fuck off. nobody cares except when Oikawa is involved. Hate it so much. bunch of simps
Exactly. THEY are the annoying ones.
Is this the equivalent of Rob from RTTV? The one who misunderstand everything and is bias?
Also being tired is part of every sport its not an excuse for losing. Its one of the most important part of the sport to train for.
Marketa is on a different level of stupidity.
At this point I don’t think they remembered that Oikawa was the captain
guys guys guys... that food scene at the end is soooo important!!!! Just because it is a quiet scene does not mean it is light. This show is not just about the hype of the game... please please please take a moment to actually WATCH. Some of you were laughing and joking about food and I was like crying inside... Please don't skip the seemingly small details of this series! Those are the elements that make this show unique. If you are only watching for the epic moments, you are really missing out! This show is very very real, if you have played competitive sports before, or have any kind of dreams/passions that you have been working so hard for, you can so so so relate.
I know how you feel, and I understand and agree completely.... But dont bother waisting ur precious heart heart into trying to get them to understand.... They literally dont read these comments, and even if they did I see little to no improvement, if you want to see genuine good reactions, go watch a channel like YaBoiRoshi or Otakudesune
Bro, don't expect more from the Normies...
@@Minej_Mosuris lupasan with his gun 🐐
@@archanagavli8628 😂
Damn so many oikawaa stans up in this bitch 🤣😍love that for us
They didn't realise that this anime is not about karasuno, it's about VOLLEYBALL, or maybe cz they don't read the manga
Wait what oikawa never beat Kageyama,lmfao
not for a lack of trying!
Marketa needs to leave haikyuu reaction Or just learn to have a little open mind to understand perspective of various character. This is going to ruin the 2nd season and undermine oikawa's role in the anime.
Thank you for the reaction~! I was literally tired after watching this episode too, lol. So freaking hype and the drop after the high, I was tired. Really got me into volley ball too. I await the next one as I reluctantly go to school during the weekdays.
I’m crying watching this every time! 😭
you talked about the longest game ever: that would be in men's Czechoslovakian League with a score of 85 to 87
Oikawa best character ever
One thing Haikyuu is very good at is realism as close to the truth as possible. High school volleyball teams don't have such a vast repertoire, they aren't able to respond to every play. Karasuno still needs to work to be a better team. Seijoh at that time was a better team.
Oikawa is like Rock Lee. He is pure hard work, repetition and determination. His story will still go a long way alongside Kageyama's story.
And Ushijima (Wakatoshi) is pure talent and strength and you will meet him very soon. Can't wait for it! =)
In this position, with this timing, this angle!
They praised Oikawa and the other team all game and y'all are still on their ass for some random comments they're clearly hating on them for the lols and because they're the "opposing" team. Yes i know everyone is awesome in Haikyuu we don't hate anyone but they're just getting into it and being competitive it's just funnnnn guys.
hi Marketa & the normies, if you want to see more Nekoma I suggest you watch OVA 1 before season 2. it focuses on them and introduces a new team member :)
They’re watching the ova
Usually haikyuu fans are really nice and sweet but somehow the comment sections on these videos managed to amass the rudest ones. Like literally chill. Or maybe it's just oikawa stans that are the worst.
Fans need to calm down... Seriously you guys make it sound like they are hating or something... Guys are enjoy the heck out of the show but you want them to enjoy it the same way you guys do... Its weird
Stop watching things if you aren't going to pay attention "he literally beat his ass" excuse me? he LITERALLY didn't. Oikawa was a mentor of Kageyama in middle school and when he saw this younger player getting better and catching up to him already when he is already under pressure to beat another genius Ushiwaka despite all his hard work he had ONE (1) moment of weakness and stress where he lashed out and ATTEMPTED to hit him but was stopped and was shocked by his own behavior. It was ONE event. There was never any beatings ever. period. beatings HAVE. NOT. HAPPENED. Also Kageyama's trust issues stem from him being a demanding egocentrist and alienating his middle school team, not because Oikawa lashed out literally once in middle school.
highkey wished they would keep quiet at the last scene where they were eating and slowly broke down
Remember this loss Normies.... Hold it tight
I think people need to chill with the comments, through the first season I was super imparcial and hated everyone that played against karasuno (Oikawa specially) but the anime have a great character development through the rest of the seasons and we could get to know better the players from the other teams. Just relax people and be patient.
Its not even that . They dont have to like certain characters . However they are going off with their own head canon . They keep insisting that Oikawa is a selfish player when the show has stated multiple times already that he is the most selfless player there is . Why Do some of them keep insisting that Oikawa is a bully and he was the reason kageyama was a horrible team player in the beginning ?
@@jman593 Even though I don't think Oikawa is THE responsible for Kageyama's behavior, I do think he contributed to the development of that behavior, kageyama admired Oikawa and he always denied him the possibility of learn from him, so that feed that feeling of selfishness that kageyama developed, everything was his responsibility and he could not trust in the rest. I do agree with you that the anime has already shown that Oikawa isn't a selfish player, arrogant yes, extremely, but he always took every opportunity he had to make his team shine.
Goddamn reading comments like these make me understand why people dont like the HQ fandom
fr im starting to as well, i was not expecting this toxicity at all dude. it's sad that im seeing this pop up almost in any video that has oikawa involved in it. says a lot about the fandom
They're making stuff up like oikawa literally bullying kageyama HELP its all petty middle school stuff
Every time Marketa talks shit about Oikawa she gets on my nerves
good
My blood are boiling
I just re-read the entire last arc of the manga just because... Haikyuu is so damn good
Where can i watch this??
I can't wait to see their reaction to the final episode of season 3.
Maybe marketa got cheated on and dumped by a guy called oikawa and that's why she hates and despise this character so much lmao
That's the only explanation I got for this hate honestly
Oikawa alone in this match is far more experienced and better than karasuno as a whole. If karasuno had won this match, it would look like a match fix.
Dont wanna be that guy, but them talking over some of the most important moments of the episode is....idk if disrespectful is a good word for it.
Yeah the show is about volleyball but it's very poetic in the sense that everyone has their own dreams with obstacles to overcome, its about personal growth and mindset.
They are very interested in the action which is great to see.
But it seems any kind of the metaphor, imagary, and meanings behind important character developing scenes just *whoosh* right over them.
Again, it could be the fact that most of us watch Haikyuu alone and is able to see and understand the meanings behind it while watching in a group is easier to just get hyped about the action.
I just want to say that Haikyuu isnt an animated game of Monday Night Football (just for reference)... You are witnessing a piece of literature written by one of the best writer arguably in Japanese manga. (It just happens to be about volleyball)
Yes, get hyped with the action, we all do. But please understand that's only half of the show, I want you all to enjoy the show to its fullest.
This… is surprisingly accurate. Not to blame the a Normies, as it’s honestly really hard to get out of the hype moments and into the sublime and slower beats when there’s a couch full of people, but yeah, Haikyuu is definitely a very human story. One that happens to be about volleyball and is written very well. People all too often mistake “complex” for “good” these days, and while Haikyuu isn’t really the former, it is absolutely the latter.
At the dinner after the game, the translation I had watched had the coach say "So eat. Eat and heal."
ngl I nearly cried too lol
This was a quarterfinal. Remember that Karasuno had a reputation as the fallen champions before this tournament. They had no rep to warrant a strong seed. Nobody in universe had a reason to expect them to be this strong.
The same people like Bakugo but hate Oikawa, Normies never change your name
I'd like to sign a petition to cancel this show for these guys. Majority of character development & how a character is written goes over their head. Special petition to cancel Marketa too needed. She loves Bakugo but think Oikawa is a physical bully.
Well, that itself explain how much attention she pays.
She in most of the animes never does. She just watches whats going on the screen but forgets to use 🧠🧠
@@anubhav7999 I don’t think she can eead English.
100% agree. Marketa gotta go.
lmao the entitlement to think you get to tell other people what they should watch and how they should watch it. stfu
This is probably the dumbest reactions of haikyuu ive seen lmao. Bakugo is okay. But Oikawa who never actually bullied is not?
6:36 I wonder that as well, so I did some googling. Apparently there is a match in Czech league 1979 that ended in 87-85 points(crazy)
I really enjoyed this reaction. I hate to see people believe that their protagonists are always going to be the best. I like to see how they realize that this is not going to always work.
Now if they are going to calm the hatred they feel towards other characters just for being competitive?
oikawa is the best character in haikyuu no one can changes it.
Just remember the "this timing, position, angle" moment ;)
Let the normies grasp their own conclusion, even if you think they are wrong. You can also write your point being civil so in the end they can understand your pov.
I love Oikawa
Worst haikyuu reaction ... I have ever seen ....
It's not about a single club...
We love all characters equally ..in this anime...
And remember there is no bad guy/villian in this show
That’s not gonna work. They made up their mind that for whatever reason every other team must be the villains. Particularly Oikawa for no real reason other than Marketa is stupid and couldn’t read the subs correctly.
Aaaaand we're back to the bullshit, what a shame. As some other people pointed out, someone should tell them directly all the things that they're wrong about. One thing is disliking some characters, that's perfectly fine, but they're straight up making shit up.
Mostly Marketa.
Normies are becoming toxic Karasuno / Kageyama stans . I'm out ---
Me too:(
as long as y'all eventually understand that in the end Oikawa was right especially when talking about Kageyama's PAST and you eventually just understand Oikawa in this it'll be okay lol. Oikawa is just really snarky, insecure, and knows where to hit you where it hurts. you obvs dont need to like him but I appreciate the respect some have. also I felt the exact same way when Karasuno lost like. I understood why but man was I sad. im gonna continue binge watching your reactions bc y'all are one of my fave channels!!
I find it really hard to say this because I really like all of you and Rob is just plain annoying especially when watching haikyuu but even he understood Oikawa's character more than some of you did lmao
Guys you need to understand that having biases doesn't really work on Haikyuu since it's focused towards growth, and not of a single team but everyone. There's plenty of people who are competitive and are way better than the guys of Karasuno, that doesn't mean they are bad people. Oikawa at this point was clearly better than them, and not in a physical way but also a mental and intellectual play.
I love my boys of Karasuno and I always want them to win but it's impossible for me to not like the rest. It's okay not to like a character, there's people who don't like Oikawa for various reasons but his personality in game or his talent is often not one of them. You can't just say he didn't deserve to win, because he clearly did.
Outside of that one incident where Oikawa was having a breakdown and moved to hit Kageyama, he never "bullied" him. Where is this misunderstanding coming from? Some of the folks on the couch have major blinders when it comes to Kageyama and they need to rewatch the beginning since they've forgotten how terrible he was at the start. There is a REASON he was called The King/Dictator. He was a terrible teammate and only focused on winning, without caring about others. Oikawa on the other hand actually cares about his team and wants to bring out the best. Yes Kageyama has major growth, but ya'll are majorly biased when it comes to him and completely disregard how he treated others. Kageyama was the bully you believe Oikawa to be.
Well, and why was Kagayama turning out that way? Because he didn't connect with the team from the get go, and part of the reason why was Oikawa's attitude. Yeah, he never deliberately bullied Kageyama, but he did exclude him, and considering how socially awkward Kageyama is....
@@swanpride Oikawa was only there for one year of Kageyama's middle school career and he mostly ignored him while Kageyama followed him around demanding to be taught. We know why Kageyama became the tyrant king and it has nothing to do with Oikawa, it happened after. Kageyama mostly didn't even register that Oikawa didn't like him, he barely had a reaction to him almost slapping him away and he was still following him around and handing him tissues afterward