Seems like the liner is definitely the first priority to change with these. Like you say I know a lot of people love the fluid Vs, but they're not for everyone. I'm finally getting my Mesmers tomorrow and even though you didn't have the best experience of all time I'm still so stoked to get my feet in them! 😅
The Intuition liners works great in these skates. I heat molded that stock liners several times but it gave me a pressure point but once I switched them out they feel amazing.
I just got the FR intuitions a few weeks ago and they are fantastic liners, less supportive than the THEM or the V2 but it's way more roomy in the toe area and very comfortably padded around the ankles. I think the pinching around Achilles area might come from downward pressure on the U-cut, if you flex your leg backward, this liner is more prone to pinching and creasing inside the shell. I noticed that too, what really helped me fix all the pinching and movement inside the shell is : I used two sided cello tape to attach a piece of velcro to my shock absorber at the heel and I used the same tape to attach the shock absorber in the shell. Before that, the liner was lifting when I jumped or did a toe roll.
The true mizou was awesome. Great skate pants. Yeah, the frame walls on those fluid 5's are absurdly thick. I spent some time doing T stops and cess slides to wear them down a bit.
Appreciate the review and your insights. I experienced the same issues with the liner and the frame too. I was really excited to try the MyFit liners but they are way too small/thick for my feet, even after heat molding twice, so I threw my intuition V2s in, and they feel way better. The skate is great and love how they slide, but wish it was good to go out of the box. Which flat frame would you recommend that’s not as tall as the fluid Vs?
Thank you for the honest review. I'm hoping to see you try the Mesmer with an anti frame and setup. Breaking in a backslide groove from scratch wastes time and frames for me. I'm interested to see how the grooves work for you.
I’m really hoping with their next skates it will have a wider availability and I’ll be able to do boot only or shell only. I like the boot a lot but I took everything off that came with it.
I’m very much interested on this skate, very classic with a modern touch, I’m sure stock liners will break in, just needs a little bit of time, suggesting heat moulding a few times more for faster results, I’m hearing a lot of positive comments about fluid 5 frames, definitely would like to try out, I didn’t like thrones very much with old tumour plates but with new plates they look really awesome.
@@BacktoBlading Most important thing is how skates fit your feet, right? It is really hard to find perfect fitting skates. I see skating as some form of expressing your self, and if skates doesn't fit good it is hard to do it.
Kizer fluid v is taller than FLT3 -- that's mainly because the Kizer Fluid V is a flat frame so it's a little taller to provide wheel bite protection. I think the FLT4 height is probably comparable to FluidV, but haven't skated them yet. Fluid V is not that tall (compared to OYSI for example) for a flat frame though. Seems Law might just want to stick to anti haha.
I ride a lot but à lot of 50/50 frame, so i know how you can be used to skate this frames!!! I can ride some other frame on different boot but there's always à reason. Sl boots : 1-50/50 balance 2- Fluid 4 3- Fluid5 (flat) 909 1-50/50 balance 2- OG 3-Them(flat) 5th element 1-FL3 2- OG 3-50/50 balance
Really bummed the mesmers just don’t quite work right out of the box. I’d love to see another session with some better frames. I really wanna see you enjoy the mesmers!! That true mizou was awesome
that MyFit liner has no business being in that shell. I don't anyone with Mesmers skating it with the liners it came with. People with wide feet, flat feet, narrow feet, arched feet. My girlfriend barely fits into them and she's 4' 11" and petite. I've tried Intuition v2, Reign v3 & MyFit 2nd Skins & 2nd Skins have worked best for me. There's a reason USD retired that mold.
Seems like the liner is definitely the first priority to change with these. Like you say I know a lot of people love the fluid Vs, but they're not for everyone.
I'm finally getting my Mesmers tomorrow and even though you didn't have the best experience of all time I'm still so stoked to get my feet in them! 😅
The Intuition liners works great in these skates. I heat molded that stock liners several times but it gave me a pressure point but once I switched them out they feel amazing.
That skate + the intuition Liner looks amazing!
Feels great too!
I just got the FR intuitions a few weeks ago and they are fantastic liners, less supportive than the THEM or the V2 but it's way more roomy in the toe area and very comfortably padded around the ankles.
I think the pinching around Achilles area might come from downward pressure on the U-cut, if you flex your leg backward, this liner is more prone to pinching and creasing inside the shell.
I noticed that too, what really helped me fix all the pinching and movement inside the shell is : I used two sided cello tape to attach a piece of velcro to my shock absorber at the heel and I used the same tape to attach the shock absorber in the shell. Before that, the liner was lifting when I jumped or did a toe roll.
The true mizou was awesome. Great skate pants. Yeah, the frame walls on those fluid 5's are absurdly thick. I spent some time doing T stops and cess slides to wear them down a bit.
Props for trying to stick with the flat setup. I’m sure once you put the anti rocker primes on you’ll have a much better time.
I've been skating USD UFS Thrones with Kizer Type M frames for years. Feels great!
“Goose-honking” is my new favorite thing to say
Great review, seems the Mesmer team may have a couple tweaks to make for the v2.0
You style though on the royal 👑 Looks way sick though
Appreciate the review and your insights. I experienced the same issues with the liner and the frame too. I was really excited to try the MyFit liners but they are way too small/thick for my feet, even after heat molding twice, so I threw my intuition V2s in, and they feel way better. The skate is great and love how they slide, but wish it was good to go out of the box. Which flat frame would you recommend that’s not as tall as the fluid Vs?
Thank you for the honest review. I'm hoping to see you try the Mesmer with an anti frame and setup. Breaking in a backslide groove from scratch wastes time and frames for me. I'm interested to see how the grooves work for you.
Please try them with a different frame and heat molding the liners. The skate itself is so good. But definitely not right out of the box!
I’m really hoping with their next skates it will have a wider availability and I’ll be able to do boot only or shell only. I like the boot a lot but I took everything off that came with it.
Please review the Dom Bruce’s next , curious to know your thoughts on them stock since skating the Bolino’s
I’m very much interested on this skate, very classic with a modern touch, I’m sure stock liners will break in, just needs a little bit of time, suggesting heat moulding a few times more for faster results, I’m hearing a lot of positive comments about fluid 5 frames, definitely would like to try out, I didn’t like thrones very much with old tumour plates but with new plates they look really awesome.
Thanks. They’re just too small for me. No amount of heat molding can help that.
@@BacktoBlading Most important thing is how skates fit your feet, right? It is really hard to find perfect fitting skates. I see skating as some form of expressing your self, and if skates doesn't fit good it is hard to do it.
The mesmer boots do look amazing but I’m a size10.5 hearing about the liner not being good sucks, which frames are taller Keizer v or flt3
Kizer fluid v is taller than FLT3 -- that's mainly because the Kizer Fluid V is a flat frame so it's a little taller to provide wheel bite protection. I think the FLT4 height is probably comparable to FluidV, but haven't skated them yet. Fluid V is not that tall (compared to OYSI for example) for a flat frame though. Seems Law might just want to stick to anti haha.
@@benadams8525 I think so too lol thank you good to know now haha
I ride a lot but à lot of 50/50 frame, so i know how you can be used to skate this frames!!! I can ride some other frame on different boot but there's always à reason. Sl boots : 1-50/50 balance 2- Fluid 4 3- Fluid5 (flat)
909 1-50/50 balance 2- OG 3-Them(flat)
5th element 1-FL3 2- OG 3-50/50 balance
Hope they’ll release a boot only as the next one..
The frames are amazing but I'm in 5th elements... maybe wider soulsm
i remember low-top oxygens or something back in the day, is there a need for low cuff skates?
There’s a few low-cut skates now, but most are kind of in the middle. These are definitely taller
Which hardness did you go with on your 50/50 wheels for this, the 90a?
Yeah, 58/90
How does the height of those Kizers compare to the original larger Oysi frames?
I’ll measure this week on gear talk
Skating with jeans are tough
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You being honest , maybe these skate are not for everyone
Really bummed the mesmers just don’t quite work right out of the box. I’d love to see another session with some better frames. I really wanna see you enjoy the mesmers!! That true mizou was awesome
Maybe they will for you, just not great for me. Every foot is different
they look like some boats
that MyFit liner has no business being in that shell. I don't anyone with Mesmers skating it with the liners it came with. People with wide feet, flat feet, narrow feet, arched feet. My girlfriend barely fits into them and she's 4' 11" and petite.
I've tried Intuition v2, Reign v3 & MyFit 2nd Skins & 2nd Skins have worked best for me. There's a reason USD retired that mold.
Those frames are trash though.
Lots of people love them
@@BacktoBlading odd, ya i hear the opposite out here in cali