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Do Justin Rhodes' methods really work?
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2016
- I have been following Justin Rhodes on his youtube channel for quite a while. This past weekend my wife and I watched his 'Permaculture Chicken' movie. We were very blessed by this educational and information-dense production.
Justin together with Karl Hammer challenged and inspired us to push our farm's limits further and try to create more solutions for free feed for our commercial chicken operation.
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Thanks for the shout out! Hey, I wonder if you have a loop hole to that rule against feeding kitchen scraps. Is it legal to put food scraps on compost? If so, put the food scraps on the compost pile, and let your chickens have access to the compost. Technically you're using the food scraps on the compost (not the chickens). Also, Karl Hammer says that only 5% of what his chickens eat is food scraps. The rest is the microbial life in the compost. Amazing. Great video. Keep it up :)
Thanks Justin. Blessed to see you find my channel. Well, I am still trying to figure out the details about the law. It seems to apply to meat scraps from schools and restaurants. We are trying to be smart about it.
Blessings.
+Swedish Homestead I think Justin has the right idea. Add the scraps to the compost, and only allow chickens access to compost after it has "aged" a few months. Then they are getting the benefits without you actually violating the law.
Yes. That sounds like a plan. I just want to make sure that it will be ok... Not fun to fight with the Food Safety Agencies and get shut down... I will keep you all up to date.
I love your videos! I'm just sad how your giving them away.
Justin Rhodes your chickens
We love his methods and channel as well. Great content. Keep it up.
Thanks.
Swedish Homestead just like Justin Rhodes your kids are adorable. One does not even comprehend love until you children. They are just lights.
UA-cam is a Homesteader Universal so much information on all homestead channels, you my friend is number one a great job. All the way from South bend Indiana USA. Remember safety is number one on your homestead.
I wouldn't mind more road footage. Nice to see the Swedish country side.
It is pretty.
We really got a lot out of Justin's movie as well. Thank you for sharing the Swedish scenery....
Karl Hammer is an amizing person with a ton of knowledge. The way he runs his farm and the products he produces are amazing. I've been to his farm numerous times and can say it is quite the amazing operation.
Would love to visit him.
Found you through Justin's channel, beautiful view of Sweeden. Thought I'd say hi from Oregon!
Nice. Welcome. My wife is in Oregon and I have spent a lot of time there.
Love the Rhodes family.. thanks for the feed back..
i love your videos they inspired me to start raising my own chickens and garden !!!
I love Justin Rhoades channel. He is very practical and informative.
we have the same problem in oregon usa.
we can't use restaurant waste for chickens and pigs. it goes to landfills.
Yes you and Justin have beautiful families.
Thanks. That's to bad.
Karl Hammer discovered that chickens like to eat mycelia. it stands to reason that chicken will get the nutrition faster if you compost for mycelia to feed your chickens. Sweden is known for its tree abundance. use only the thin branches of 3 inch diameter or less because proteins or nitrogen is concentrated in this part of the tree. look up Jean Pain Composting.
Thanks.
esteban corral p
Hi. I just found your channel because of this video. I have been watching the Justin Rhodes' channel for many months, and I am excited to watch your project implementing some of his ideas in such a different environment.
I live on the northern edge of the Olympic Peninsula in the state of Washington in the USA. My tiny microfarm is much further north than Justin's, but I don't think it is as cold as yours. I hope to learn from both of you - though I raise ducks and geese instead of chickens.
HI there. That is wonderful. My wife is from Oregon. We visited Paul Gautschi near you a couple years ago. Glad you found us. You live in a beautiful area.
Justin and his family are a favorite here too in Central New York. You have a lovely family as well. Thank you for sharing your own experiences.
Thank you for watching. Glad you found us.
Found you while watching Justin Rhodes. Good vids, subscribing from southern CA. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks.
Really, though, are they still 'kitchen scraps' once they have become compost? Aren't you really feeding them compost? Isn't it semantics?
they are actually eating insects living inside compost piles
I found you by watching Justin! I love your channel and thanks for all your information ... Thanks too for the great ride in your country ride ❤️❤️🎶🐔🐔🐔🐣🐣🐣🐤🐤🐤🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓
Thank you. I am glad you found us.
Nice!!! Yes i'm also following his channel. Love from Malaysia.
Great scenery during the ride. Thanks
Hope your hard work pays off for you and your family!! You seem to be well educated on farming & livestock. I find it fascinating. Update on Sally please. I'm getting very nervous not hearing any news! Hoping Sally wasn't dinner. She needs to have some calves and she will change!! Good Luck, Vinny
She's still with us. Update coming soon.
Over from Justin Rhodes channel................I subbed..................
Nice. Glad you found us.
I just saw your channel now and watched your vlog where you pick up your feed for your chickens. I subscribed. I pray you do well and you and your family stay healthy. Your little ones are adorable. Can't wait to meet your wife on here. Have a happy day on your farm with you animals and family. I watch the commercials and click like for those I follow so that will help you out if you make a little money off of the commercials. Make sure that you have signed up for that and that you are getting a little for each vlog that ppl watched and watched at least 30 seconds of the commercial.
Thanks Sharon. I am glad you found us. My wife doesn't like to be on camera much but she appears in a few videos... She is definitely prettier than I am...
Yup. Justin is the Bird Man! another Great teacher. Glad you found him. Too bad he's not building an amphibious Bus :-)
love the Rhodes...amazing lil family...
Found you thru Justin's videos. Love your video and subscribed :) Can't wait to see your homestead :) Thanks! ~ Jenn
Nice. Welcome.
Lolz. I love your style of video format! So much fun! Awesome!
Thanks.
Thank You and you have a beautiful family.. May God Bless you and your Family....
Thank you.
Enjoyed seeing some Sweden of this morning.
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❤️Justin Rhodes and his family are wonderful. Keep the amazing work as well you seem like your going the right way 👍😊🙂
Awww! Your babies are super cute, it's the first time I've seen them!
Great video I really like the way you are honest about what you think will happen. Have you done an update to this video?
raise worms... go to the local restaurants and get their food scrap and make compost. You don't feed the food scraps directly to the chickens, but the worms as a result of the compost.
If I cannot proof and make sure 100% that the chickens won't get to the food scraps I can't do it. I could get in serious trouble. That only count's for meat scraps though, not veggies. I will see what I can get.
Perhaps the issue with meat scraps is a result of Bovine encephalitis?
Perhaps your chickens could get enough protein from insects? I have never been to Sweden, so I don't know about the insect life there. If so, look for videos on maggot buckets. You feed meat scraps to flies, and the birds eat the larvae. The birds cannot access the meat at all. Perhaps there is something similar that you could do? I doubt you could raise Black Soldier Flies so far north - I cannot at my latitude (~ 48° N).
MetaView7 mealworms or fly larvae could work too :)
I give my chickens dried mealworms. But I'm sure you could raise your own to keep costs down. Thanks for the video. Everyone please come on over and check out my new channel. It's going to be covering gardening, chickens, hunting, woodworking projects and some day to day stuff and I'll be getting pigs this summer as well. Thanks and please subscribe
@@simeonandalex Look into black soldier flies (BSF), and then set up a BSF composter. You can feed them anything -- particularly high-protein foods like meat scraps, manure, and other food waste. Once the larvae have matured to full size, they empty their guts completely and then migrate to a place where they can moult into an adult fly. Because they migrate at this stage, a well-designed composting system can capture most of these larvae and you can then feed them directly to livestock. Chickens will feast on them directly, and you can probably add them to pigfeed as well, perhaps by freezing or drying them first. The mature grubs contain *none* of the food they ate while they were maturing, so I can't see how they could possibly run afoul of the laws about meat scraps, since the grubs contain no meat scrap residue. Conversion efficiency of these insects is also very high, so you won't lose that much in the way of nutrients.
As I'm sure you know, to feed monogastrics like pigs and chickens, you _must_ have a good source of protein in the diet -- ordinary pasture grass and hay just won't be sufficient. I'm grappling with this problem as well, and have no intention of buying grain -- I'm determined to either make this work without grain, or not do it at all! Pigs and chickens simply provide too many benefits on the farm to do without them, so my plan is to: (a) establish pastures containing a mix that includes high-protein forage (legumes like alfalfa and clover), (b) grow trees and bushes that also produce high-protein crops, such as Caragana, (c) slaughter all animals on-site, so that I can recover *all* of the high-protein slaughterhouse waste that would otherwise leave the farm, and (d) use a BSF composter (and maybe also some vermicomposting) to convert the slaughter waste, manure, kitchen scraps, roadkill -- anything containing protein -- into BSF larvae which will substitute for the grain & soy ration my pigs and chickens need (in addition to whatever they get directly from pasture and silage). I don't care how long it takes to grow out my pigs and chickens, as long as they are healthy, and I won't raise any more of these animals than I can properly feed with the BSF larvae I am able to harvest. Hopefully I can make this work!
I am looking forward to seeing your way around the laws. We can only process 100 chickens a year (at the local abbattoir and they can not be sold otherwise.) and that apparently includes our egg layers. I am finding a way around the bylaw of no chickens at all because we found where it says we can have 80 pigeons, 3 dogs and 4 cats. So am looking forward to how this goes for you.
I love your comment that you are not trying to sell anything. I think others work gets tainted with trying to get people to pay, which leads one to wonder what their true motivation is. I will follow you with interest. Thank you for what you are doing.
Looking forward to seeing how it works out. From watching Back to Eden, Swedish Homestead and Justin's channel I think there is a 'hybrid' or combination of methods that uses the best of all systems. i.e improved efficiency, using chickens to work the land and maximise compost production. The feeding for free thing is tricky, especially in the EU as like you say it limits things alot. Keep it up!
Yes. Learning from everyone and implementing what works best for you...
Very cool. I'll be following your channel. Adorable kids btw.
Thanks. They sure are cute...
Best of luck with your project.
Good stuff here....very good information
Glad you think so. Thank you.
Can, legally speaking, soaked grain be added to Leaf mulch, allowed to sprout, and then chickens be used to compost the pile? Also do you have black soldier flies in Sweden for composting food scraps?
I watch him too mostly because of NC.
Glenda Ruff j
Nice work... I subscribe to your channel because was suggested by me watching Justin Rhode channel. Hi from Puerto Rico.
Thank you. Greetings to Puerto Rico.
Man, you're a cool guy.
How many chickens do you have or plan to have? Great channel, I have subscribed. Thank you.
We raised between 200-300 chickens this year. Right now we have about 100 and are going to breed with them. The plan is to have about 350 layers and a pastured poultry production. We'll see how many meat birds we will raise.
Question: What is your list of seeds you get at the mill?
Did you tell Justin Rhodes about this?! I think he would enjoy knowing he has helped you.
No I didn't. Maybe he finds this video...
He mentioned you in a video of his!! Let me see if I can find it, and put it here....hang on.
On the Polyface Farms website, there is a 'library'. You can read the book by George Henderson, Farmer's Progress and The Farming Ladder are the precursors to Salatins chicken tractor. I found it in the US with an 'interlibrary loan' from the Library of Congress. I don't know if the US Library of Congress would let it go international, but it might be worth a try...or maybe you can find in in the UK or there in Sweden. I am happy to have found your videos too. www.polyfacefarms.com/library/
Thanks for the info.
You bet! :)
For info, in the EU there is a get out about feeding kitchen scraps to chickens if it comes from a vegan kitchen, don't know if this applies commercially or not, it does for domestic chickens.
Love your videos brother. You guys are awesome, stay blessed.
hi , I'm Darwin from California, I'm wondering what grains mixture you feed your chicken? ? I saw in the video you loaded a big bag in your trailer.... thanks
Just found your channel - I'm in New Hampshire. Are you able to feed vegetable scraps?
I think vegetable scraps is ok. I am checking into that at the moment. Glad you found us.
are their any loopholes in the European law? such as, when is it, by definition, "food scraps" . once it has been cooked? once it reaches a certain room? at some point it probably changes from a garden trimming, into food, into food scraps.
You can fee purely vegetarian food scraps.
I have seen geese used to keep the weeds out of strawberries , I guess they never bothered with the strawberries .
That is very interesting. I might try that next spring. Thanks for the tip.
beautiful children. gods gift to you.
I am blessed.
Really appreciate this video, and glad I have found your Channel! I am an older person, have always had at least a few chickens and Justins methods are new and modern to me...but I have been very interested, tempted to go that way, and your video is very encouraging!! WHOA!! Not allowed to feed chickens table scraps? Wonder why that is? I am a new subscriber as of today.
You can feed scraps from your own household but not from schools and restaurants. Glad you found us.
oo thats cool! I've never seen reaction videos to the Rhodes before :D Been a fan of their channel for months
greetings from Canada!
Thanks.
just found you and subscribed. this is an amazing journey and I plan on following you closely. God bless you and your wonderful family. we got our first flock this past spring so everything is firsts for us (26 girls now, next flock will be 100 with other animals as well)
Nice. I am excited for you. Hope it goes well.
Swedish Homestead thank you! so far, only issues with pecking on several girls (put in Isolation till healed and feathered) and more than half our layers have stopped laying. heat lamp on under 10degree F and lights on timer. any ideas to pump up laying again??
Well. When it is cold they just need most of the energy to maintain body heat and health. They only produce eggs when every other need is met. My production is also down a lot now but I try to let it go the natural cycle. When they change out their old feathers they also stop laying for ca 4 weeks. I am trying not to fight against nature to much now but will try to get the laying up in february/march again when the days get brighter. Sprouted grain works wonders. Where do you live? What climate?
We have had pecking issues when we fed them with old bread or lots of wheat. It can also be that they need some extra animal protein like a dead mouse or something or that they are a little bored. Hope it works.
Swedish Homestead thx for the advice! we are Ohio (America) where it's cold, windy, snowy icy in winter and hot, windy, dry and stormy in summer. the girls we isolated were molting early, they are all under 35wks but I didn't keep lights in to help with daylight (14-16hrs a day to lay) till December-timer 2hr in morning and 3hrs in evening as our natural light is 9hr 20min this week. how do you start them laying again in Feb/March?
Our days are much longer in march so that helps. The deep bedding should be a bit warmer by then as it composts more and the sun heats up the greenhouse more. I want to try with high protein food like sprouting grain and stuff. We'll see. It depends on the weather. It can be deep winter in march still. Our pastures first start growing in May.
Keep me up to date on whats happening. I am interested in how it goes for you.
Blessings,
Simeon
IF YOU ARE GOING TO CUT OUT GRAIN i think you should not use table scraps but kitchen scraps and even source from a supermarket the vegetables that are going bad. you ca collect tons of that
Since you cannot feed food scrapes to chickens can you feed them vegetables that are damaged from a grocery or a fruit and vegetable road side vendor ? That is not 'food scrapes' but is new yet damaged and unsellable vegetables .
I think so. I am still looking into the exact details. The 'no food scraps' law seems to apply to meat scraps.
I love your channel!
Thank you. I am glad you do. :)
I was watching Justin Rhodes' videos and saw a preview of this video. I thought maybe you were Bam Margera and had to see what he was up to. You are obviously not Bam haha. That's probably a good thing. Good stuff on this channel. I especially liked the video where you made a compost pile for the chickens.
Have you thought about sprouting seeds or growing fodder to get more mass and nutrients from your money?
Good video bro, gave you my sub
Thanks. Glad you found us.
What a wonderful community of farmers. This is the future.
Where is the video you saw of Kyle Hammers?
Good luck to u & I'll keep watching !! Rose 🌹
Thank you.
looking forward to how it goes
Me too. ;)
I cannot imagine the cost of that bag of grain you bought I am a hobby farmer ihave 9 hens and 1 rooster and I think that their food bill is bad. I also raise meat chickens and turkeys I also let them out of their cages to play and whatever they wish to do I enjoyed the vid by the way
One thing about working chickens on a farm .... Every place is different ... If you can't use kitchen scraps for chickens another thing you could do is grow worms with those scraps and feed the worms to the chickens ....
I don't know if you've answered this or If it's too personal, but how does a German end up marrying an American and homesteading in Sweden? Love the videos it's been filling a hole in my life since Wranglerstar decided to just do Rah Rah American is better or look at the free shit I got videos with shitty vlog clickbait garbage.
I moved to Sweden with my parents as a teenager. When I married my wife she joined us on the farm.
Hahaha true
well i am german/norwegian and i married a swiss/finlander and we live in the United States. lol just thought i would add that. Just subscribed to this vlog. Interesting to watch how you do things. :)
lägg gärna till i beskrivningen länkar till referens videor du prata om;)
Ok. Ska lära mig detta. Glömmer det ibland.
There is a very well known saying , you don't get owt for nowt !!, buy the best stock ,give them the best
feed gets you the best results!.
I agree. I guess there are just a lot of different interpretations on what the best feed is. If you ask the so called 'scientific based farmers' you get a very different answer than when you ask Joel Salatin or the chicken itself for that matter.
yeah him an his wife have helped me so much
Awesome
I have also been watching Justin's channel for some time. I think the EU rule on table scraps may not be a real problem for you. It depends on the exact wording. Most of the vegetable stuff that his chickens get goes directly from the garden to the chicken yard. At your scale, your kitchen scraps would not go far anyway. There is the labor of pulling the greens and excess plants, but you may find a way to minimize that.
I want to have big enough compost piles that the chickens can get most feed of the biota from the piles.
I think the vege scraps can't be used to feed chickens in the EU if they come from the house. I reckon if you grow it and trim/ prep the vege before you take it into the house & put it straight in the compost that's fine.
Yes.
Do you have more details on this EU regulation? There is a waste stream from supermarkets which is different from 'the bin'. Can this be investigated further ?
Greetings from Värmdö.
Ohhhh, I LOVE your kids! 😍💞
I have 12 chickens and they are hiding out in my back yard...Food cost so much and at 68 i can at least have eggs...Love the kids & to be able to see the farm and the drive to pick up the chicken food was all so nice....Gram Ma Dora...
Are you able to feed your chickens with your food scraps to save money. Thanks for the nice comment.
Justin rules! As does The Beautiful One!
I love Justin Rhodes but I am biased since I live in NC also. I feel bad for you about the food scraps government tends to hinder more than help in certain ways with over regulation. My opinion watching you as well as many others is to get advise try different things maybe modify those methods to fit you and then develop methods to best suit you and your goals.
Yes. That's what we are wanting to do. We'll see how it will go and what modifications we will do through out the way.
Black solider fly larvae. They eat the scraps, you feed your chickens. You bury kitchen scraps in compost pile, let the chickens go on the piles.
I would look at the definition of "food scraps." You may be able to feed more than you think.
I am only allowed to feed scraps containing 100% vegetables.
Your children are beautiful and adorable you must be very proud to be their father. 🙂
Thank you. I am.
i love justin!
Just a stupid question. Does this apply to house flocks? or only commercial flocks? Wow unbelievable micro management at its best.
I mean the non scrap feed policy.
Can u let ur chicken eat ur " garden" if it ur "garden u don't want to eat what grew there y can't ur chickens eat it that might not b considered scrapes
It is just meat scarps. Pure vegetable scraps is ok.
wowwww beutiful babies i what without exception u and justin vids !!! from PR
Thumbs up!
Hi - get some pigs - they dig up everything and the chickens love them. They follow the pigs and get loads of insects!
fantastisk børn du har!
out of habbit and to many past experiences, I assumed you were going to bash him. boy was I wrong, just goes to show huh. Like your channel as well. Will be watching your results. funny how we are getting the same results doing the same thing in all different climates.
Thank you. I know, nature seems to work according to the same principles all over the globe. I am really excited for this project. Glad you are going to follow it.
We are selling about 30 doz eggs a week right now with demand we can't fill. In my experience, using compost piles and grass is a no-go for large flocks. There is no way to bring in enough raw materials to build the piles and then having to wait for the them to break down. With bought feed and the birds on rotation you'll have enough to do on the farm. I'm reclaiming overgrown pastures, and the chickens are eating weed seeds and scratching the moss out. The bought feed that you are feeding is also bringing in nutrients from outside that will be deposited on your fields fairly evenly if you move your birds often enough. I see no way to raise a commercial flock without outside inputs unless you are a grain farmer too.
It depends on the size of flock. We can raise a fair amount of birds without outside input if they go behind the cows during the summer season. They find enough insects in the cow pies and greens on pasture.
I am looking for ways to reduce my amount of feed I have to buy. Chickens also produce manure from the biota of a compost pile that they can add to the fields. I will have to have an outside input for feed even when I am composting but I think way to few people have pushed the limits on these experiments. I want to give it a shot.
Yes, you have to keep pushing to lower costs. When we compete with the 2 million bird operations, every $ counts. But make sure you pay yourself for the labor. That is where the large operations have the advantage.
You might also like John Suscovich on UA-cam. Larger scale than Justin; chicken tractors for commercial production.
I have seen a few of his videos.
i have a question for you, did you strap down that sack of chikenfeed?
No. No need.
jomme78 I believe it was too heavy to go anywhere. Wondering how he will get the feed down I the same bag. He must take some out a little at a time or has machines or ppl to help him or it's going to stay in the truck for quite some time.
beautiful children, fantastic!
Thanks
So how much does that bag of chicken feed cost and how long does it last?
It costs about 3 SEK / kg. It lasts about 1,5 months. The bag weighs 700kg.
Ah yeah thats indeed quite a big expenditure.
COOOOOLLLL!!!!
I don't understand why you cannot feed your chickens scraps from you're own kitchen. Peelings from vegetables, fruits and vegetables, all things they would find outside foraging anyway? Why not?
You can feed them scraps from your own kitchen but you are not allowed to pick up food from schools, restaurants, etc... that only applies though when there is meat in the food scraps.
Geoff Lawton is another person who has fed his chickens on the cheap, using compost and garden/kitchen waste.
But, Justin feeds his chickens soaked grains every morning.
I think he has different flocks. He has fed them on only compost as well.
In his official movie he talks about that I think.
yeah it's a mostly veggie scraps plus the soaked grains I think
He doesn't feed them only on compost. They are practically free range - on grass, bugs, etc. too bad u can't use kitchen scraps. Also, Justin uses quite a bit of farm produce. Good luck, I love you way of growing chickens.
Justin feeds organic veggie table scraps mixed with his organic soaked grains. Btw please come on over and check out my new channel and please subscribe. Thanks guys
Just thought I'd let you know Justin Rhodes just left the hospital Grandma fell and broke her hip