Planescape: Torment EE - Review After 100%
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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watch in 144p for maximum authenticity
Also degrade the sound
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A well paced and nicely explained video, thanks for taking the time to make this. I loved this game when I originally played it all those years ago. I've bought the Enhanced Edition to play through again, really looking forward to diving back into the excellent story!
I’ve got to say, I have been watching a lot of your videos lately Mortum and on top of a few other reasons your videos and especially your passion for CRPGS has really kicked my journey into them down a Rabbit hole, im playing 4 different ones at once (including this)
Hah, found the review :) It's great to see that you've covered PS:T! It's my favourite CRPG of all times, I don't know how many times I've played through it just to immerse myself in the story again.
The point you make about customising your character is absolutely true; particularly the options to lie or tell the truth have always stood out in my mind as unique and a great way to make the Nameless One yours. I would love to see this implemented in more games!
My favourite moment besides for Ravel's question is when you meet O of the divine alphabet; the shoutout to that scene in Tides of Numenera was pretty fun too.
Anyways, I kinda see the game as pretty philosophical. Dealing with questions of how to live your life, how actions and intentions can change one's path, and the power of belief. I really need to DM a campaign in that setting again... but, I am rambling :)
Have you ever managed to get Adahn to materialise?
Ugh. Imagining playing dnd in this setting. That would be epic.
@@brednbudr2406 I can confirm that it most definitely is! :)
5:06 - The Harmonium would like a word with you.
A truly wonderful game. My only issues are that there's not much replayability and that one of the joinable NPCs appears very late and another is a tedious grind to get. Otherwise an outstanding game and still playable today.
is it an open world game? Multiple endings?
There are multiple endings yes. Fair amount of choices for how you want to end missions as well and most are optional.
I have it on my phone so I can’t complain besides being really small
4,50€ on Steam rn (28.05.2022)
Your review has inspired me to stick with it. I'm on my third attempt and always seem to lose interest. Which was my issue with Baldur's Gate
I recall this games reviews being a non 0 amount of the reason that when they kinda rebooted how the dnd universe looks that it's setting was kept in. That might be apocryphal nonsense with my elder milennial brain slowly rotting tho.
Is this a spoiler free review?
No
You need full on charisma for this game to be really experienced.
The game is right up my ally, but I'm seeing impaired, and the text in the game looks too small for me to read.
playing this now (enhanced edition) and i see there is an option to significantly increase text size as well as contrast.
@@JohnThunderable Awesome! Thanks for the information.
Best book you'll ever play.
After 25 years of PC gaming, this is still my first answer for best story of all gaming history. I've played it all the way through at least 5 or 6 times.
Planescape and the first Deus Ex are sharing the first place for the best story, at least for me.
After 35 years of video games under my belt, I must concur; you are absolutely right.
@@InnerRise Your loss.
It's on tablet as well.
@@InnerRise shame
@@yaldabaoth2 I enjoyed it but also don't get all the hype personally. I doubt the game would be as popular if it didn't have voice acting and strong presentation :P
It's more of a point and click adventure game with some light RPG elements rather than a full blown RPG like Torment or Numenera.
The problem of this game was and still is that many people just don't like reading. Whoever played this game absolutely loved it. But many dropped it before the story even started. And oh what they missed...
Well to be fair even if you love reading, the Infinity Engine text box and minuscule font is an awful UI for that.
My problem is very different. I like the reading. I hate the god fucking awful gameplay and I can't push through it.
Love the cursed box mission for early on such a simple quest but cool one none the less
@@Biouke I'm pretty sure you can scale the font with the remastered edition. The old games were obviously not built for the resolutions we have nowadays so that's the problem if you play it in the native font size.
@@Revanchist There's some of that but really the font itself is a problem. Lengthy dialogues in Times New Roman 12px was not ideal to read on a screen. That and the TTRPG feel of big exposition dumps by the narrator... Compared to Bloodlines with its big sans serif font and spoken dialogue that felt more natural or ShadowRun and Disco Elysium text paragraphs on the side of the screen it's night and day.
I mean, I love reading so it's no big deal and back in the day I didn't care much, but in retrospect the bottom box of text with a sophisticated font really is a chore to go through.
One of my favorite things about this game is the number of completely different ways you can win, including by answering THAT question
I once "won" by becoming the immortal emperor of a rat kingdom bound to an indestructible throne.
The truth is I never got to finish this game in college, and I had no idea steam had a new version. Holy crap you can imagine my excitement, I got it immediately. Thanks so much for the review!
So, now one year has passed, how did it go ?
Planescape: Torment also has a hell of a voice cast! Jennifer Hale, Keith David, Mitch Pileggi, John De Lancie, Dan Castellaneta, Sheena Easton, and more. The characters tell the stories. 10/10
By 100%, did you finish the game as a mage with high wisdom? You get so much story by playing this path, unlocking Dakkon full story and abilities.
Yeah you have to do that more or less to get the achievement for unlocking Dakkons rings
For me this is still the better written, with better narrative, videogame of all times. I've played most of the rpgs, old and modern, classic and japanese, but Planescape is still unmatched. You can see it's written by a person with a literature degree (I don't mean to bash anyone, I'm just stating a fact. That doesn't mean other writers without a degree might not be as good). Of course it's old, it comes with its limits and such, it's rather a heavy game, probably half way between a book and a rpg for nowadays standards. It literally drowns you in text all the time, and for our ADHD-packed times that is definitely an issue.
This said, I've never found a better story with a better involvement for the player than this.
"updated my journal"
I got this game as a multi disc bundle not long after its release. It's cover turned me off and I wasn't sure I wanted to play it but bored I threw it in and gave it a chance. It was one of the most compelling and addicting games and I loved every minute of it. I really think it was so undervalued and had so much going for it over the likes of what was out there.
Ugh I envy you. There's so many games released back then that I wish I could have experienced in their time. I want to still give it a chance but these days it's hard to experience games like these in a way that they deserve
@@goo-o8g just play the game(s)
Games put hot women on and the game is about her not at all. Game has scarred dude on it, and he is the main story and plot character, but he looks fugly.
I remember seeing the cover and just not even giving it a chance. The saying never judge a book by its cover comes to mind. Not only is the story great but the roleplaying is incredible . Changing 1 stat by 1 number opens up possibilities while also closing some off. It blew my mind.
Never could get into this game. Made it about 6 hours in last time, but I always tire of it. BG1 and 2 are my favorite games. Also got only a few hours into IWD before quitting it permanently.
Great review ! Lil' tip to niewbies: wisdom. It's good.
Wisdom and Int. Fuck the combat. Squeeze all you can outta the story
Man, I got this game when it first came out in 99. I loved this game as well as Baldur's Gate. Might have to go back and play the enhanced version myself.
This is my favorite game all the time ...
I disagree that combats are not good. I never forget fights with massive wizard spells :)
This is still one of my all time favorite games of all time! Awesome video thanks for doing it :)
What can change the nature of a man? As a 30 years old to me its experience and/or regret.
This is still one of my favorite games of all time. Let's put it this way: I bounced right off both Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 (mostly because I'm not a fan of the Infinity Engine) but I've got a P:T tattoo that I still think looks cool. :D
And it's not just nostalgia. I recently replayed it after having not touched the game for almost 20 years and the writing holds up for me.
Aww man BG1 and 2 were childhood favorites for me. Infinity engine is def hard to enjoy these days though.
The writing is what makes it timeless. Story, characters in the party, the unraveling of the plot in both present and past, different ways to do quests - it all stands up to time.
I've never played D&D, so in 20 years and multiple playthroughs I've never quite figured out the combat system and certain stats, which in turn made combat, usage of items and spells very tedious and frustrating - and none of it didn't matter to me anyway, this is one of the best games I've ever played and can replay forever.
One does not just bounce off BG. You just weren't ready.
Especially so for someone who says it's because they hate the engine but have a tattoo based on a game with the same engine.
so it wasn't just me, I really was reading too much text and felt sleepy through out the game.
Totally love this, and I played the EE version earlier this year. Still a fascinating story-line with wonderfully complex characters with tales to tell 😍
Wow man, you keep putting these out, much respect.
Glad you covered this fantastic game
Currently playing this game. At first, I felt very hard to adapt into this kind of genre (western rpg). I came from jrpg like chrono trigger, final fantasy series, and xenogears. So far the story is quite interesting to follow even though too many narrative to read
It is a kind of a book.
@@dominika3762 yeah, after finished that game I think that is one of the most deepest story of any video game I ever played. This game bring new experience to play game and made me realize that video game can be a strong medium to tell deep story
The story was pretty awesome. And the NPCs. Loved having Ignus in my party. :)
Such a solid game
I played this game right after it came out as a HUGE Black Isle fangirl by that point already (and who cut my teeth on D&D in the pre-3.x days with a DM who ran a Planescape campaign for us) and it blew my high expectations out of the water. Flaws and all, it remains the best story in CRPGs bar none and I have replayed it so many times over the years.
yeah I love Planescape Torment, when I finished this game for the first time I was so disappointed because I knew I would never find another game like it.
@@alexoelkers2292 really one of those once in a lifetime CRPGs that it seems are just so hard to replicate
@@YouTubdotCub been meaning to try Torment: Tides of Numeria. I know its not the same but...
@@alexoelkers2292 I actually really enjoyed the characters and story, but it feels like a game/systems that are a vehicle for the story rather than a strong game/strong systems with a strong story and characters hand-in-hand. It's kind of a skeleton of a game around very good writing, good character work, interesting choices with thoughtful consequences, etc.
@@YouTubdotCub I really enjoyed the writing of "Disco Elysium". There were times I just burst out laughing. The story itself wasn't amazing but I appreciated the dialog.
"Tyranny" I really enjoyed as well. The writing wasn't nearly as good as Planescape but you should really give it a try if you haven't already.
I cried regretfully and cathartically while playing this game.
It's the only time I've cried while playing a video game and I've been playing my whole life. That's all you need to know.
@MortismalGaming this gives me strong Soul reaver/ shadowman vibes plotwise, especially the former. Would you reccomend it to someone who want to start playing cRPG's in general ? i don't mind turn based combat (i've played some o.g squaresoft jrpgs like final fantasy, vagrant story, parasite eve) and from what i've seen planetscape have a lot more depth to it (which is a good thing)
Also, imagine Honor Among Thieves movie being first step towards adaptation of Planescape
It would be nice, if Hasbro would allow some kind of sequel to this incredible game. One that is set in the Planescape universe and with some of the original characters.
my all-time favorite game that isn't a Zelda
I really want to play this game i saw it on the PS store bundled with Icewind Dale i just need to finish my current list of old games Iwant to play. That list just keeps getting bigger 😂
Great review, thoroughly enjoyed watching it!
I'll fight anyone to the death who doesn't agree that TOEE is the greatest CRPG ever made. :)
Not even close to Baldur's Gate for me 😁
@@felicemastronzo8827 Pistols or poniards at dawn, sir!! :)
For us really old people it's probably worth mentioning that Annah-of-the-Shadows is voiced by 80's music pop icon Sheena Easton.
Where is this video by MrRexx about Sigil, I dont see it on his channel, do you have a link?
I just looked for it myself, and it seems like it was either deleted or made private
You said you werent gonna discuss about the story, and then near the end you reveal bits about the characters' connections to the nameless one, which to me is kind of a spoiler 😂
I've played this game when it came out and have forgotten everything about it, except the fact that it's awesome. It's on sale for the switch right now, until february 4th 🍻
Can't watch due to plans of playing through all of the Classics for the first time, do you know anywhere cheap to get the following (Steam)?
Planescape Torment EE
Neverwinter Nights EE
Baldur's Gate EE (+ DLC, Dragonspear)
Baldur's Gate 2 EE
Icewind Dale EE
Yeah all that is on steam
Check Steam and GoG, they both run sales at different times. Fanatical will also have them on sale occasionally (they sell Steam Keys)
I would so love to see this game ported to a modern engine and ui. Tried to get into it again with the enhanced editions along with bg and turns out 15 years has spoiled me to the old isometric dnd games that I sunk so many hours into as a youth. Would love to play thru it but not enough to be inconvenienced with how big my backlog always is.
Great review man. Loved how you didnt spoil much if not anything important thanks
This game was ridiculously ahead of its time.
Got it for mobile after 5m in. Looks great. Sadly don't have the time to sit at a PC and delve into it. I played baldur's gate 1 and 2 during my childhood so I think I'll love this one. I had no idea it was linked to D&D as well. It was always that game my mom wouldn't let me buy because the cover looked like some horror game. Lol (I got baldurs gate through ebay and told the guy to repackage the disc's so there was no skull and such. #strats)
This really updated my journal
thank you for the video, but man i had to look for the companions pictures to see how they look, i urge you Mortis if you gonna mention someone in a video you should put a pop up or just show us that person while talking about him, the succubus is sexy though, well worth the search :D
Used to play this game some time back on pc, haven't finished it yet. Plan to play again or buy from Google play for my tab or phone. Interesting story. Thanks for the review!
I loved this game! One of the best stories ever in a CRPG.
Ive try to get back on it but i need voice over so bad, i can't read all of that...
I don't know if today's gamers have the patience for this game. It is my favorite RPG ever, but I am old school and grew up on the classics, so I loved having the option to avoid combat at times and the copious amount of text was so well written it never seemed like a chore to read.
Just grabbed this in a Humble Bundle!
the intro reminds me so much of Kingdoms of Amalur...
Annah is annoying as hell 🤮 but this video totally updated my journal 😂
I dont mind the NPC dialogue. Its good world building. Sure it might not effect the plot directly, but its all helping you understand the world and honestly most of the those side conversations are optional anyway.
I'm playing that game these days, a really great story! I also played the first edition 20 years ago, but only for a while. Now I can fully enjoy the game.
Put your reading glasses on.
you are going to need them!
This game despite it's flaws remains my favourite game of pretty much all times. Story and the setting is just *chefs kiss*. I was really dissapointed in Numenera that painted itself as a successor in a way but I just could not get into it....
u gotta try it again. in my mind one of the best games i have played. gonna play this at some point too
Something interesting I wish more games copied is just how perfect the DnD alignment system (Chaos-Law, Evil-Good, Neutral) is for roleplay in a video game. Conversation trees in games have to be limited and can only give a player around 3 responses to a situation, but thanks to the 3x3 chart they feel like meaningful character choices. For example when your characters first learns about debt slavery they may have a reaction like: "It's a good way to pay their debt to society" (lawful) "Slavery is always wrong" (good) or "I wonder if I could buy someone?" (evil) And while it's just a fun personality survey for the most part, seeing where your actions put you by the end of the game, there are some items like the Deva's sword that onyl Lawful Good players can use, and party NPCs' attitude changes based on how you treat them.
I loved this game, played it through with every character type when it first released and 100% all 3 play through's. I have tried it again since then and couldn't get back into it
Yeah I bought this not too long after it came out and was pretty amazing. I could never beat it though because it was so different from all the other games I'd played. I cut my teeth on things like Dragon Warrior, Final Fantasy and the Gold Box games. Combat was the main focus so I played it like that, killing everything, and that can be a bad time. I bought it off GoG three years ago and have yet to boot it up but as soon as I'm done with GTA San Andreas which I never got to beat back in the day either this is my next one.
How did you go about 100%ing it ?
I have never played this game myself. But others I know rave about the story as well. One of my friends who runs d&d is a huge Planescape fan. I've played in the setting a number of times. It's one of my favorite d&d settings. Prolly second only to Forgotten realms in my opinion.
*I've updated my journal*
"A brothel for conversations"
This is the last straw, feminism has truly gone too far!
How do you 100% this game?
A lot of dialogue serves no purpose? Fluff? If you cut non-essential content from a book It would most often be a very short book
i really wish i watched this before i wasted my $10 on steam... Im fine with a story and reading, but it has to be a fun game to play and for me thats combat and a challenge. BG 1 and 2 and IWD... amazing. This... meh... not my tea and i played about 15 hours into it and just lost interest about into the 6ht hour.
40yrs gaming and not looked at these games, too much reading i thought.. now im waiting for BG3 and got bg2 and now looking at this... hhmm shall i?
Many as one.... one of my favorite characters in any setting.
I can’t believe you spoiled the thing about Morte!! In any case, just finished the game and I feel like a part of me has died with it (wink)
they don't make them like this anymore.
God i wish so much the character had a different portrait. Many years i try to finish this game..this ugly mug just shoo me away every time
First played it when I was 10 or so... Didn't understand a lot of stuff this game offers. But I've enjoyed it greatly nonetheless and I replayed it couple times in the 14 years since my first time. Every playthrough I realize something new I missed on the previous ones. A gem of a game
I have the original pc physical, all 5+ CDs in the neat folder. Also just bought this along with icewindale on steam for $1 off of humble bundle.
Great game and speaking of Planescape is a great setting for table top without using any Wotc stuff
I lucked out on what my first CRPGs were and they set a high bar standard that many games that followed didn't reach. I played three CRPGs as they were released: Fallout 1, Baldur's Gate 1 and Planescape: Torment. All three of those games are solid A+ when it comes to world building and setting and only Planescape: Torment didn't have great combat to go along with such superb settings.
PT reminds quite a bit of Elden Ring in that they are both incredibly inscrutable, mysterious and mesmerizing, especially at their start. PT does a little bit of hand holding but for the most part you have little information about your PC including the fact you can change your class from fighter to a thief or wizard!! All the the NPCs that can join your party are also incredibly unique.
Great review and anybody who hasn't played this one but likes games that deliver the unexpected or unique realities this is a game for you. Ignore the rough combat. Seriously, who doesn't want top lay an immortal with some mysterious connection to Sigil, the city of infinite doors that lead to infinite places.
Why not post a link of Mr. Rex' (Mr recs?) video in your description? I can't find his video after searching for him. Thanks
Should I pick it up for switch?
Obviously top 1 game, but I wonder why Arcanum is so underrated, could be top 2-5
Thank u for speaking this game
Oh what a gem I just grabbed this game and bg1&2 and icewindale as well got them all for such a steal on sale for only 9$each and it is the full bg1&2 with all dlcs so like an extra 6 stories to play if u dont like one skip it lol. I went n loaded it up just to see if it was going to be anything like torment on xbox cuz I can't figure out how to do literally anything in that game thr button mapping was bugged last I played so idk but ya it turned me off cuz I assumed that these old games would have more issues like this but I was wrong it was that game which was flawed and very different from this but it was on sale very cheap n it also wouldn't have made this deal seem so sweet lol I thought they were same dev big mistake it turned me off these games until now recently I just got into it I had to watch a tutorial on the tutorial lmao a walkthrough and then it clicked I finally know how most things work in this game at least enough to play it on story mode which is easy then the hardest part is inventory management and can I trust this guy who just joined my party better not give them any good gear as I well know in the dragon age series which honestly feels like a true spiritual successor or sequel to this just minus the license of dnd which idk may have made those games better depth wise but not story er game play at the cost of the simplicity n accessibility factor so idk but I just wish they'd kept it as deep as origins was since da2 sucked and inquisition I have yet to finish cuz I'm stuck even on easy mode cuz they never learned how to make the difficulty but balanced! But I think it's story is actually connected to bg1&2 so far cuz it mentions several things like chanting and the warden's idk gorion secrets yet I'm just now arriving in what's it called the friendly arm in. (These games make me actually remember such things n not just go ok go to the blah blah in blah town n talk to blah get blah and boring idc about made up name and then this game goes and forces us to learn or we'll end up lost! Which im sure I will but idk so far I'm loving it so much almost as much as elden ring where idk which ome to play with my time! That's how good these are once u commit to learning them n don't leave it in backlog anyway I digress. )
It was fascinating and hilarious to play this intro just out of curiosity about if I'd like the story but it's so weird lmao and the skull part n then the tattoo on my back lmao it was wordy no wonder my back hurts so bad lolol is where I ended up stopping myself cuz I wanted to play more like that pulled me right in to this world im invested n now im hoping that I can create a character I like enough to finish them in order and see if I can't progress a character from bg1 to as far as that'll let me lol. But it's a ton of fun the learning curve is so worth it and I'm omthr switch Nintendo versions idk if they're best thr my favorite place to play but idk maybe pc idk I tried getting into dragon quest on mobile bit it's not pulling me in I got the 1st 3 games n the turn based is so played out from pokemon n other games that use it final fantasy etc this's how turn base should be but anyway I can't gush enough about this game im not 15m into the story of and only a few hrs into bg1 on day 3 still out side the arm inn lol killing bandits n strangers who attack n my inventory is full n idk what items are priority lol. ..
Oh ya lmao 1 least thing that happened to me was I found a magic/ cursed girdle of gender confusion lmao it made my character a transvestite who was born a man but has a man's voice and a womans body now im hot lmao and elven lolol is things like that hilarious the back tattoo the talking skeleton lol I didn't expect it to be so good humor n story with these graphics like diablo 2 lmao wtf no wonder these games were rated so well and I can see how many countless RPGs took sooo much from these game's n sone made it worse others better idk anyway im out
Are you going to do a story recap for this like divinity or baldur's gate?
Just finished the game. I hated playing it but loved experiencing it
I found it interesting that Wisdom was one of the most important stats in this game. It makes sense, but it’s not something that’s embraced in most games.
the amount of reading makes these games hard to get into for me, but baldurs gate 2 showed me that a lot of the dialogue is worth it
But the high level spell animations are straight up amazing. You have to play a caster just to see them.
Couldn't you have many as one as a rogue in your party?? Did he appear in another game as a companion?? So confused
I'm gonna play this for the first time, looking forward to it!
so good story but not fun
to play if you want combat.
Great review