Consider supporting our Waqf fundraiser, your donation goes toward purchasing two rental properties which will make the masjid financially independent. UA-cam has a 100% donation policy. May Allah reward you and put it on your scale
subhanAllah, so true as a young person in the masjid, there is a big lack of connection. While most big brands spend billions to engage the young people, if only the masjids understood the important on this roi
As a convert, that's exactly what I experienced. I'm in one of the top 3 most beautiful, big, and expensive masjid in the US and the lack of connection and caring there drove me away. They spent 100s of millions on beautiful decorations, but there's no soul.
@@flash994 They are not asking to be entertained. They want righteous knowledge and a connection to the ummah. Big masjids shouldn't become a money grab for the people running it.
When we had a small house, we had more activities and halaquas, now a multimillion $$ building, and small amt of parking, few programs, and little community in Sha Allah.
Jazak Allahu khairan for the informative talk but if an Imam is being paid a good salary and he is invited to give a khutbah at another masjid, the pleasure of Allah is better than $10,000. I took my shahadah on June 7, 1974. At that time I don't know if there were any masjids that were built to be a masjid. Most masjids consisted of indigenous Muslims with some immigrant residents and students. Salat al Jumah was prayed in those storefront masjids or someone's home but the brotherhood was strong. Then the Muslim college students graduated and got good paying jobs and built beautiful masjids but the beautiful masjids replaced the strong brotherhood. I moved to Utica in 1997 (1997 to 2017), when a small Jehovah Witness church had been converted to the first version of the Utica masjid. I am pleased that the small Jehovah Witness church building has been replaced with a beautiful masjid and the brotherhood is still strong. Al Hamdullilah.
Pakistani, always Pakistani. Reverts are not included but what would we be included in anyway? 42 years widowed Caucasian revert, never fit in. Can't even find a revert husband anywhere. 😢
I admire converts a lot. It must be a huge jump to accept islam, especially with the cultural hiccups that exist within the immigrant muslim community. InshaAllah we get to the point where we indigenize islam so that converts feel welcome from day 1. The Truth is the Truth, but we got to package it right and ensure we dont lose that human element. May Allah SWT bless you.
ive been a muslim for quite a few decades and the problems are obvious to those who understand, the cultural hiccups described are not cultural they are character flaws in the way they treat converts. the first is arrogance the second is ignorance of the deen the next is that they culturalize the deen, i guess that might be the same as indigenizing it. the so called convert also has issues because many of us want to bring our pre islamic baggage into the deen and expect people to accept it, most dont but they wont or cant educate the person on whats correct and when you dont have an imam to teach then we are all at a loss.
i believe this situation is by design. it went into effect after 911. the govt. was pushing a certain type of islam and the imam they chose as poster child was H.Y. There are always at least one or two people who are perpetually on the board who have influence over the other members and those members usually are of the same mindset , the modernist mindset. we have that same situation in our city. i believe we havent had an imam in 5 yrs
I wish Imam Wesley had defined celebrity Imam. To me a celebrity is a famous person with a lot of supporters. Imam Wesley seemed to be saying a celebrity Imam is a bad thing.
We arr spending all of the money on Madajids that are empty & we must invest in Islamic schools in those masajids. In a non Muslim countries, it's a sadaka al jalia
Unfortunately this is almost the default even in many other countries. It reflects the ummah aroung the world. We yell one ummah but 55 us countries that watch one another get slaughtered by enemies. This the lay Muslims follow this pattern. May Allah forgive us and rectify us
Consider supporting our Waqf fundraiser, your donation goes toward purchasing two rental properties which will make the masjid financially independent. UA-cam has a 100% donation policy.
May Allah reward you and put it on your scale
subhanAllah, so true as a young person in the masjid, there is a big lack of connection. While most big brands spend billions to engage the young people, if only the masjids understood the important on this roi
As a convert, that's exactly what I experienced. I'm in one of the top 3 most beautiful, big, and expensive masjid in the US and the lack of connection and caring there drove me away. They spent 100s of millions on beautiful decorations, but there's no soul.
😔😔😔
The masjid is not a nightclub or an amusement park, it’s a place of worship
@@flash994who said it was? Are you slow? People like you are why Masjids are terrible
@@flash994 They are not asking to be entertained. They want righteous knowledge and a connection to the ummah. Big masjids shouldn't become a money grab for the people running it.
This needs to be shared
You got it thanks,
You reverts and those who grow here need pick up from here
As long as you have knowledge
unfortunately our masjid has this same issue
Agree 100%
When we had a small house, we had more activities and halaquas, now a multimillion $$ building, and small amt of parking, few programs, and little community in Sha Allah.
Jazak Allahu khairan for the informative talk but if an Imam is being paid a good salary and he is invited to give a khutbah at another masjid, the pleasure of Allah is better than $10,000. I took my shahadah on June 7, 1974. At that time I don't know if there were any masjids that were built to be a masjid. Most masjids consisted of indigenous Muslims with some immigrant residents and students. Salat al Jumah was prayed in those storefront masjids or someone's home but the brotherhood was strong. Then the Muslim college students graduated and got good paying jobs and built beautiful masjids but the beautiful masjids replaced the strong brotherhood. I moved to Utica in 1997 (1997 to 2017), when a small Jehovah Witness church had been converted to the first version of the Utica masjid. I am pleased that the small Jehovah Witness church building has been replaced with a beautiful masjid and the brotherhood is still strong. Al Hamdullilah.
Pakistani, always Pakistani. Reverts are not included but what would we be included in anyway? 42 years widowed Caucasian revert, never fit in. Can't even find a revert husband anywhere. 😢
I admire converts a lot. It must be a huge jump to accept islam, especially with the cultural hiccups that exist within the immigrant muslim community. InshaAllah we get to the point where we indigenize islam so that converts feel welcome from day 1. The Truth is the Truth, but we got to package it right and ensure we dont lose that human element.
May Allah SWT bless you.
*gives you kitten :)
ive been a muslim for quite a few decades and the problems are obvious to those who understand, the cultural hiccups described are not cultural they are character flaws in the way they treat converts. the first is arrogance the second is ignorance of the deen the next is that they culturalize the deen, i guess that might be the same as indigenizing it. the so called convert also has issues because many of us want to bring our pre islamic baggage into the deen and expect people to accept it, most dont but they wont or cant educate the person on whats correct and when you dont have an imam to teach then we are all at a loss.
real talk akh
i believe this situation is by design. it went into effect after 911. the govt. was pushing a certain type of islam and the imam they chose as poster child was H.Y. There are always at least one or two people who are perpetually on the board who have influence over the other members and those members usually are of the same mindset , the modernist mindset. we have that same situation in our city. i believe we havent had an imam in 5 yrs
I remember him from years ago in Rockford Illinois
I wish Imam Wesley had defined celebrity Imam. To me a celebrity is a famous person with a lot of supporters. Imam Wesley seemed to be saying a celebrity Imam is a bad thing.
We arr spending all of the money on Madajids that are empty & we must invest in Islamic schools in those masajids. In a non Muslim countries, it's a sadaka al jalia
Unfortunately this is almost the default even in many other countries. It reflects the ummah aroung the world. We yell one ummah but 55 us countries that watch one another get slaughtered by enemies. This the lay Muslims follow this pattern. May Allah forgive us and rectify us
❤🙌🏾 Where is the Muslim income based housing
“When you look at the contract of the Imam, it is 10 pages long”. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽