Simon Jordan Argues A "DISEASE OF POOR CULTURE" Is Causing Saga's Like Sancho's At Man United! 😡😫
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- Dive into the fiery debate as Jim White, Simon Jordan and Stuart Pearce confront the "DISEASE OF POOR CULTURE" plaguing Manchester United.
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When a manager calls a player out publicly for being late to training, you can be certain he already had to do it privately two or three times.
spot on
Dortmund said the same thing about Sancho that he would show up late for training etc.
It doesn't matter, if the player is performing well in games and has talent ... it should not matter if he comes late to training.. if it is late to training he can stay longer after training.. this argument is so stupid .... TEN HAG is the BIG Problem .. a winning team is like a PUZZLE ... he build nothing at UNITED the team plays really bad with very talented players.. TEN HAG won NOTHING in his life ... UNITED NEEDS A COACH THAT WON CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 2 3 TIMES not a coach that WON ZERO...
@@samsarasap4911You cannot be serious... don't let any employer of yours see this because you seriously lack leadership and teamwork skills. And if you're an "entrepreneur" like 99% of people on the Internet, you have either ran your business down the drain or soon will. I say this with all due respect.
More then once or twice Matic said it was nearly every day
Can anyone imagine if this happened under Clough or Ferguson ? Not a chance
Jordan and Stuart bang on!
Bad culture brings structures down.
Sancho kissing the Dormond badge and saying he is home is a disgrace .He should not ever be allowed to return back to Old Trafford
@iainrobertson3328: I don't think he is going to care very much about that. He needs to enjoy his football and prove the critics wrong.
Who said he wanted to return ??
Never liked him
Home because that’s his level…farmers league. Poor player, and an even worse attitude.
Imagine thinking he is losing any sleep. Some of you really need to invest your energy into something that will benefit yourselves, instead of useless crying online
Not a utd fan ,but the toxicity in utd goes back to pogba and mourinho ,the club not backing the manager has set a tone of player power over manager that still lasts to this day
Get rid of all the wannabe rappers from United
What do you mean “not backing the manager”? Mourinho played Pogba every game, never dropped him, never exiled him from the first team, Mourinho lost his job because he didn’t get results.. I’m sure if he had dropped him and made it clear to the club he didn’t want him they would have backed that decision..
But yeah, it all started under Mourinho.. Most of the players liked Van Gaal and he was hard as nails, just shame United have a minimum requirement of Champions League qualification, given time he would have taken United places.
@@Primitive01 your telling me mourinho didn't want to get rid of pogba after their falling out ?
He played Pogba because he had no choice! Pogba was a commercial signing, you couldn't just drop him. His wages were massive, he sold shirts and got bums on seats in the stadium.
I can't believe how delusional united fans were about him too, always backing him up when everyone else could see he had an attitude problem and was a big flop. That's what Mourinho saw. The powers refused to do what was required by Mourinho.
Pogba and lingard set the culture
Ronaldo spoke about the attitude of players in piers interview.
Yes but not the first player to say it
Alex Ferguson was a once in lifetime manager, and he made the culture at United.
To be fair ,the players went with it as well
Fergie leave man u they flopped messi leave barce they flopped you see the trend with 1 man
Youngsters too much on social Media, which they are only interested boosting their image. Big distraction
Lies, they have hours a day out of training posting on social media doesn’t take anything from their football
Well noted mate, exactly the same with apprentices in trades, always on their phones / social media. The problem is HUGE mate......
A Simon Jordan fan saying people need to keep a lower profile.
Ironic.
Sancho and Rashford being idiots on a private jet together sums them up.
You sound jealous. Get over it.
@@gerardonochie3408 worddd, he needs to get his money up instead of watching how other men spend their money 😂
It's so simple...stop recruiting people on North of 300k. 300+k is for the big boys that have earned it. Sancho basically has 15 years worth of money guaranteed now. Good luck keeping him motivated and good luck ever selling him.
100% thought it was mental at the time, almost like we are in some alternative universe. These big wages destroy motivation, this generation has no where near as many stars.
I obviously agree but another club would just pay to 300k . Thats the problem
Not many clubs can afford £300k. He won't be easy to sell at the end of the season. He needs to half his salary at the very least and even that is too much!
@@bigwhitewill4974 I'll add to that, with: this generation's attitude stinks!
What do you mean 15yrs worth of money?.. Whoever sanctioned 300k for such a young player that had done next to nothing was insanity. Sacking ETH would be the definition of Insanity!!!
When players come in to carrignton with people like woodward, murtough, arnold,fletcher etc not holding them accountable but keep giving them high wages and new salary(while also knowing they are not good enough)with owners that don't care, that culture was bound to spread.
And that is the crux of all the ills we see. The culture/ethos is set from the very top. But the very top here, ie the Glazer thieves, only care about $ and treat fans/football with utter comtempt....Ed Woodentop said this years ago. ie on field performance is not that important to generate money. Fine short-term, disaster long-term. The Glazers are the sole reason everything about Man Utd, and esp the players, suck today. ETH is trying to herd cats here.
@@neilharrison01 Bloody well said!
Simon Jordan at his absolute best here. Completely nailed on the issues at Manchester United. EtH must be supported. He might not be it but at least he will change the culture by say 20 to 30%. He may be the man before the man and that's okay too. As long as we make progress culture wise, however small.
He isn't changing anything if the board loses faith in him. Man Utd had LvG, Mourinho and Rangnick who are known to install a certain culture yet they were dismissed, sacked and somehow even made a fool of by the fans. Every other club would have loved to have such a managers.
Change the culture by 20 to 30% what the hell is that supposed to mean? 😂
getting rid of high wage dossers, trouble with ten hag is hes made some shocking signings already @@darthgreenthum6364
@@darthgreenthum6364that means he can still improve the club's situation even if he doesn't finish by winning the title..
How the f* is he on £350k per week one of the highest paid players to ever play in the premier league. His agent deserves a knighthood!!
He need to be crowned. Parallel if no overthrow Charles. 😂
Murtough, Woodward/ Arnold - The brain trust. Why give contracts to Rashford, Sancho, Martial, Pogba, Maguire, Sanchez higher wages than Man City or Liverpool players?? Dint u research/benchmark?
Especially when these Utd flops have never exceeded these rival players' levels and more importantly no other club is willing to pay them the same?
Then you cannot even sell them until their contracts run out. Cannot replace them until they are sold.
But Murtough n Glazer to the rescue...give them an extension.
Another example of Glazers ruining a club and hiring incompetent muppets
Simon Jordan is correct about a poor entitlement culture that refuses to work hard and submit to discipline and order.
Funny that a lot of youngsters nowadays seem to suffer from that 🤔 Parenting? Birthplace/hometown? Influence of social media? Could be any or all of these three.
@@Barrettszippo I blame heavy metal music and computer games.
@@Barrettszipposaid every generation ever 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, Tory voter Simon Jordan is not right.
@@Barrettszippo It's all TikTok's doing!
Sancho laughing all the way to the bank.
Not really, everyone in the world knows what he is now. Man city knew it. Doesnt have the stuff for a top side, dortmund current form is perfect for him
He can laugh, but it's all down hill from here forward for him. He sabotaged his own career, so there's not much to laugh at, cos no top team will want anything to do with him after this.
I find it weird when fans talk about how much footballers make like they get any share of it
@@lyrickonerMan United got knocked out disappointingly in the CL… i think your forgetting Dortmund are still in CL after shitting on newcastle. another “top prem team”. just because it’s bundesliga doesn’t mean it’s not a top league because it deffo is. Man U just not a elite club like they were
yeah laughing for a couple more years...then his 350K a week contract with United runs out runs out and doesn't get renewed. Then he'll struggle to get 100K at a mid level club, all before he hits his prime years, and start to think to himself "damn if only I wasn't such a brat..."
Nemanja Matic said the truth about Pogba and Sancho.
Before ETH, a manager that holds players accountable, players were allowed to do whatever and not have any consequences. Murtaugh, Arnold, Glazers, Woodward, etc that are the wrong people to be in charge, that fuels a toxic club. Hopefully, with INEOS and Sir Jim, they can turn that around. Time will tell. Would be nice to see United get back to their old form of being a top club
Uniteds old form as you put it is where they are at now.............. With the exception of the beginning of the Premier league under Ferguson, they were always a mid table cup side, a horrible club, horrible pitch and horrible style of play.............. some of us remember the 70's and 80's.
Back on their perch @@summumesse1303
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S@@summumesse1303Some of us remember the 50s and 60s.
If you're commenting based on second-hand info and never watched the actual presser where EtH responded to the Sancho question, please do so. EtH's response was a normal response and no different from any other time he spoke about Harry, Alejandro, and Antony.
When did he say the others performances weren’t up to the level and deserved dropping?
@@civildiscourse7626 he's been saying that all the time.
Large bells ringing should have been heard when Manchester City didn't enter into the race to sign him. They knew what Sancho was like with his attitude and mental state
He was in the academy when pep came in n pep let him go cuz of his attitude
alarm bells ringing because city didn't want him ? Take away the fact it was them that sold him but how about he isn't good enough or they didn't need a player in that position
@@pjduff7577 sancho is obviously a very talented player and with enough discipline he would've been good enough
@@BiggestBirdonMars who else was in for him if he is so good ? So in other words you bought another ravel Morrison, talent alone is not good enough at the highest level
@@BiggestBirdonMarsLike Antony he’s just too slow for the Premier League.. He can’t beat a man and turns back non stop, that’s not good enough and there’s nothing he can ever do about it, he’ll always be too slow and too soft.. At least Antony can pick the ball up on the touchline and carry it 60 yards up the pitch sometimes, Sancho just can’t, he’ll never be good enough for the Premier League.
This was a great conversation, thank you gentlemen.
To understand Sancho, go back to how and why he left City. Say what you like about Pep, he’s one of the best managers in the game. Foden didn’t leave City, Sancho thought he was too good, there is a modern sense of entitlement permeating throughout society and it sounds as though Sancho, irrespective of his undoubted talent, has succumbed to this. Pep will know exactly why this is happening.
Pep doesn’t allow players to go unless he thinks they are not good enough, nothing to do with making money, if they are good enough they stay until they retire, silva,aguero,kompany,walker,Bernardo,de bruyne,Harland,they will only go if the player wants to and forces it, or pep wants rid of
@@markspark7634no pep wanted him to stay but sancho skipped preseason and training. That’s why he was let go. He wasn’t professional at all. Trust me as a city fan I know because at the time Sancho, Foden, and Brahim were all the rage in our academy. Funny how the one that stayed is the one that ended up living to his potential while the others didn’t.
@@markspark7634 lol Pep asked Sancho to stay and Sancho refused to sign a new contract, which is his right, nobody is allowed to force you to sign a contract, it is illegal.
JS couldnt make the step up to a bigger club, he was unable to cope with the pressure, now he is back to a small club with less expectation and he looks relieved.
no player bigger than his club so respecting the club and the manager is a priority .
The manager isn’t bigger than the club
That's a statement associated with good players, this guy is entitled and useless.
Pogba, Rashford, Sancho, all turned up late and would just pay the fine, Gary Neville got caught in a traffic jam on the way to training one morning and was literally crying down the phone in the traffic jam explaining why he isnt there. Ole let the fine for being late come in, ill blame Ole for the start of that enlighten if you will if it was done by Mourninho...
If sancho was actually playing well we'd forgive him being a clown. He's had 3 different managers at utd and never played well or played consistent
United doesn’t play good football, sadly…. Sancho is still a great player and talent can’t hide….
Stuart Pearce is a national treasure
Look at what Matic said, Sancho and Pogba were late all the time, Sancho was late for his medical at Dortmund, the problems the player and the players attitude and the players character
Matic is a no one who underperformed for united too
@@civildiscourse7626exactly
A low block football master
Isn't Matic currently on strike at Rennes?
Sancho wasn't late for his medical. It was just very late close to midnight that day when he did the test since it took some time to get to Dortmund and finalise the deal.
Someone needs to buy Sancho an alarm clock and set it back by one hour 😂
The biggest problem (despite them taking money out of the club) was leaving Woodward in charge far too longer than he needed to be. If they had employed say Van Der Sar or Jean Claud then maybe the Glazer noise may have died down as the on the field issues may not have come to fruition as better decisions may have been made? 🤔
he assisted his first game. Bruno hasnt done that in 15 games
@@Ghost-tx4ft ok great… in the German league…. Sancho let’s be honest had chances but when it came to it …. He did naff all
Just sharing. Klopp decided to sign Endo because the player has five kids. He bought Konate because the player is said to have good potential for growth/ positive to learning. Sancho do not look like a Klopp player. No wonder we were not interested.
Similar to Ange... they like to sign actual good blokes... people you can rely on.
I would say if Sancho went to Liverpool, I cant see it going as badly as it did at United. There is something rotten at United that makes these kind of players worse.
Managers like pep and klopp are smart. They realize there really isn’t much better a professional footballer can be compared to other players. It’s better to sign good players that are good people then Great players who are premadonnas. The only club that can get away with these kind of players is Madrid because of how huge they are to the point no players ego can surpass it.
stop comparing kloop to pep theyre levels apart @@UnknownUser-nu8ny
@@UnknownUser-nu8ny100% Madrid is another level no player has ever been bigger or will be ronaldo would never act the way he did at united at Madrid they would bin him straight away
Nobody can convince me that Sancho actually watched that post match interview after the Arsenal game. I ask all of you saying EtH was in the wrong to go back and watch that. He was asked after losing against Arsenal which I thought United really played well in that game no thanks to VAR denying Garnacho that goal, “Erik, Sancho wasn’t in the squad, wassup with that?”. Erik answered, “for this game, he wasn’t selected due to high training levels we expect at United” He read the baits from the media which will be without context and reacted. Knee jerk! This is United, you’ve gotta be tougher than that
they are either bitter penaldo fan boys or bitter jose fan boys theyre everywhere lol
@@si4632I don’t get the ronaldo fans problem though the guy was finished and it’s not like he’s sancho he’s won it all in Europe the one trophy he’s missing is a World Cup so he’s had a great career but his time was up.
sancho, lingard, pogba, rashford, they are all the same.
I was ready to give him a ride to Dortmund for free just to see his back
😂savage
Big pause
You still have to pay his wages just for him to play for Dortmund, you are getting cucked
Simon Jordan actually spot on in his assessment. Sancho is not a top class professional as we have seen from multiple sources.
Only fools believe in rumours.
club backed pogba against mourinho that set the attitude problems
Agreed.
make contracts tighter so have an element of weekly pay ( will still be very high) then performance related aspect to it , finally a tight watertight clause that if you repeatedly misbehave the bulk of your pay can be held back until you leave .
Jack the Man Utd fan is blatantly Michael Owen
I heard that too!
I've been talking about the Sancho/Bellinghams trajectories for quite a while now... different strokes, different folks there
As a United fan I’m so please to see the back of Sancho. Matic exposed both him and Pogba. Told us all we need to know and I’m so please that ETH isn’t going to stand for unprofessionalism. It’s the only way we can start to rebuild the culture properly, simple as.
Yes but they have to let him see it out properly that’s why they got him in the first place it wasn’t to win things straight away it was or change the culture he also needs help with transfers and having a proper fan as we shouldn’t just let him get whoever he wants as doesn’t always work so a proper transfer strategy and give him support through the bad time and I think he will change it around
HE DID NOT COME FOR HIS MEDICAL LATE. He arrived at midnight for his medical, because the transfer negotiation just got concluded and he did his medical so he could train in the morning.
Sancho fan boy spotted, you mean that’s the only thing you took from this video. You lot make me laugh
@@Ubah00of course that’s all you do foh!
@@Crayawnianother fan girl spotted 💀
When they blocked Morinho selling Martial and others, that seemed to be the turning point for the absolute worst that then allowed for all that was wrong in the structure to become magnified.
Martial ! Imagine renewing his contract and keeping? 😂😂😂😂 Madness
A one legged tea lady with no kettle would put in a harder shift than him. He's terrible.
@DodgyTodger he is as much use as pair of sunglasses on a bloke with one ear.
Sancho, Rashford, Lingard, Pogba, Martial.
This is Manchester United we're talking about here
lol
Manchester United Football Club
@@Ligerpride MAN U
@@Ligerpride Change the order of the initials and you get F.U.C.M....just saying...
@@Barrettszippo
.....no we're talking about Man United here.
I mean this is Manchester United.
Stuart Pearce's ability to answer a different question to what was asked always amazes me.
Jim White: Is Rashford world class?
Stuart Pearce: World class is Mo Salah.
People are celebrating because playing for Man Utd isnt what its supposed to be.
Old fans need to move on.
Pep let him go to Dortmund from city for a reason , he looked to have turned that corner at Dortmund but at united he's gone backwards
Young players leave big clubs all the time. Pep lets players go and his performances get worse btw
@@Aaron-zh7qm theres videos of Sancho whinging about being taken off during city youth games... he basically gave up on his team mates in the FA youth Cup final against Chelsea... its always been there.
Arteta showed everyone how to do it with Aubameyang.
Sancho has played under 3 different managers, when do we keep him accountable?
Sancho never put in world class performances so there is no crisis here.. bad attitude he can go..
Now this shows the club is behind the manager, no player is bigger than the club.
Simon using words like "invidious position" - he speaks like he's from the 19th century
jadon is playing both clubs he don't care
Generation x and entitlement goes hand in hand
Perfect words Simon 👏👏👏 Poor culture ya get me 🤣
Loving the Man united failures at the moment but Simon Jordan bores my excitement unfortunately. Boring postman Pat
Talk sport hating on rich black or man united football players with personality is a tale as old as time
It amazes me as to how Ed Wooward seems to get a free pass when talking about the last decade of Man United.
Amazes me how Ferguson gets such a free pass for building the foundations for this culture at Manchester United
@@thesegundovolanteit amazes me how good honey roast ham tastes
Ten hag should have kept it in house, now sancho goes to dortmund for peanuts and comes back to manchester united after ten hag is sacked
Maguire, Marcia. DeGea, Ronoldo. Rashford, Sancho, Pogba- He is not alone. They all play worse than before. There is something rotten in Manchester
It’s a razor’s edge. You
Pump up soccer and make it an art then sometimes the performance defies belief.
The common denominator is that these are all players with no father figure who adopted a particular culture that promotes materialism and ultra-individualism. All they care about is money to fuel their lifestyle.
Let's see if Utd made the right choice. Remember Jose & Pogba, Utd picked the player over the coach and it did not end well, it's still a mess.
United have turned into that class you would have at school where your strict teacher is off sick and you get a supply teacher in who doesn’t have a clue, inmates running the place.
Is Jim White -
1) Going deaf?
Or
2) Heedless?
Or
3) Too busy trying the next sensationalist question to listen to the last answer?
Good club managers will consider the character and off-field history of a player before signing them. They'll also appoint captains who agree to serve as standard-bearers for the club culture. Other club managers will just watch UA-cam highlight videos and press the buy-it-now button.
Average players shine in great teams.
The best players shine in bad teams.
...Bryan Robson, Steven Gerrard, Alan Shearer.
Sancho has nobody to blame but himself. However, he'll never accept responsiblity for his poor performances.
Simon is spot on
Time will tell when Sancho plays for Dortmund. But what I will say is Sancho didn't exactly shine with Southgate either due to his behaviour. It wasn't just Man United.
Ten Hag destroyed the relationship by calling out Sancho as a deflection tool after they lost to Arsenal.
Mate spot on he's a scapegoat
He failed the test of character, and i'm not talking about ETH.
Give your head a wobble pal. 🤦🏻♂️
People think money means lose your integrity.
Add that to the list of other united players that have failed the test.
It's laughable in that 10 minute segment that there is no mention of Greenewood who everybody would agree committed the worst act that you can do representing a football team.
And Greenwood is a product of the club. So maybe united isn't the right environment for a young player like Sancho and moving back to Dortmund will definitely Improve his performances
Someone needs to remind these players how lucky they really are
they worked for where they are. luck has nothing to do with it. ETH is the reason all players are bad. 12 losses , 1 win in 7 games if not more. and thats without Sancho Ronaldo Pogba Lingard etc. all the problems are gone but the performances are even worse.
@@Ghost-tx4fthe means how lucky they are to play for club the size of utd
Brian clough reference...the best England never had ...
Simon is once again on the money.
The only thing that nobody is mentioning in the whole Sancho saga is this.
Anthony the 80 million Ten Haag flop is starting all the time in front on Sancho.
Surprised that wasn’t mentioned.
That would make me lose motivation.
As a liverpool fan looking into united the manager has been brilliant in dealing with this teams egos this wouldn't of happened if sir Alex was still in charge two of the best managers had the respect of the players from the off sir Alex and shankly players have too much of a say now
City didn't ship him out. He went on strike to force a move away. Guardiola has maintained that he wanted to keep him and the club did what they could to keep him.
Antony had difficult off the field issues.
Yeah his home😂😂😂please Sancho stay there please for good
Doesn't sound great for Sancho. But on the other hand, he did go to Germany aged 17, did do brilliantly, and Dortmund want him back. The lateness would annoy the hell out of me, but it's not as bad as the stuff Joey Barton routinely did under Pearce at Man City. It's always been the case that players have got on with some managers and not others. The fact that the wages and transfer fees are much higher doesn't really change anything. We'll have to see how he does.
Nah the money means you are now a slave.They own your free time and your morality and integrity. It’s just folk don’t like to be told no.
Sancho said No I’m not saying sorry. YOU WHAT BOI.
And if you listen to the rhetoric “THEY” all call him boy. It is in their blood…
Yessssss, he’s gone! Let’s hope he doesn’t get confused and come back.
Ten Hag will be sacked before he rebuild the team.
Postecoglou signs players on their attitude, their character and wanting wanting to play for his club, that's why he has a pretty good strike rate at Spurs and Celtic. Why don't other managers follow the same philosophy?.
That guy in the middle is on the magic dust...
Tbf to Ten Hag he clearly doesnt tolerate ego's or divas. We saw how he dealt with Ronaldo. Fair play. Club comes first, and if a player isnt pulling his weight (which Sancho clearly wasnt) get rid 🤷♂️ That being said, we dont get this at Liverpool for example, so clearly something is going on at Utd
Yeah people in charge like Daren fletcher murtough Arnold and co letting players habe massive wages for nothing they never earned them in the first place there should be a salary cap anyway
When you now give very young immature average players, wages that are disgustingly high then what would you expect........it will corrupt some and give them a massiah complex
But why give them such ridiculous wages for zero performance. Klopp would not tolerate it for sure . So Simon is right . The culture is toxic and rife.
You pay a player that gave three successive seasons of performance a big money contract, not when he is hired. This shouldn’t have been hard to understand.
Man, I said I wouldn’t be back and just popped in bc of the Man Utd topic, but Simon out here spitting facts. It’s Sancho’s fault. He’s a little baby and the fabric of the culture is garbage. The players that aren’t performing are playing for the dollar and not for the club. Rashford is not world class. The previous generation of players enjoyed pressure. These players break under the pressure
its the penaldo fan boys still but hurt lol
I think Rashford will be just fine once he gets a transfer, whenever that may be. The environment has been awful at Man Utd for several years now, and he's seen it all.
Rashford is not a world class player. he is average at best. Championship player.
5.30 blame Sancho and pogba 8:30 may be a decent point though
I've been saying it a year ago and I'm saying it again: Ten Hag is putting his stamp on the whole football culture. He talks every time about "top sports culture." On the pitch it's not working but he is testing a lot of the players by putting an arm around them and when they're not delivering he boots them.
The players in the last 10 years on the whole have accepted that you first come with your skills and talent, then put in the hard work after. Not with this manager. Now, it's on the onus of the people higher up to stick or twist.
Social media and 'celebrity' have raised Personality Disorders to aspirational
Managers are rarely wrong? Really? What a statement.
Good Riddance! Rashford next.
Sancho rashford martial pogba fred. Problem players for overlapping and differing reasons. 3 down 2 left to sell.
Why is Di Maria in this convo lol? He's the most professional player.
Stay there mate 👍🏻
I feel its not just in football but in life, alot of people are entitled and feel everything should be handed to them onna silver plate. Too much money too early in there career's.
Why does 'saga's' have an apostrophe? Totally unnecessary. Someone literate should be writing these titles 😬
Simon on point here . Love agreeing and disagreeing with this bloke . Propper clobber.
Started to tune out of Talksport, Jim White in all is experience is excellent out of whipping up hysteria.
"and we know that" no flies on Jim is there
Maguire, Rashford and Fernandes sums the club up recently. Maguire was never good enough and was allowed to continue start regardless of his performance/errors because of his fee/wages, same with Rashford and his performances/attitude. Fernandes has been made captain but does nothing but cry and dive. What does this showcase to the rest of squad and youth. It’s embarrassing
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