The time has come to produce an EVA2 6K with internal RAW and 4K 120p minimum. The Full Frame cube is beautiful, but we need an EVA2 that goes to join an Eva1 not to substitute. I use Eva1 every day and is still a fantastic cinema camera today.
I feel like pretty much everything in the "what's missing" section is being held out for the EVA2. BS1H looks awesome! Definitely can't wait for a proper EVA successor though.
Panasonic please listen to your customers. The BS1H needs a small screen! Why make a tiny box camera and then destroy it's small form factor with a heavy external recorder & NPF batteries? On the positive side the S1H is still an amazing camera which I'll be using for many more years.
Locking, interchangeable lens mount would have been a great addition. Internal NDs would have been nice too; (I suppose you could use the Tilta ND system tho).
I am very happy to hear that the stabilization has been removed. That means this camera can be operated on an FPV (or other) drone without image vibration / jello effect.
On the US it seems to be the same price as the S1H, at least on B&H. They could have used the opportunity to upgrade some things from the S1H on the hardware side, like higher fps or no crop on 4k60. As it stands, it's just like the FX3 is to the a7s3, which is fine I guess, but not really attractive
It has an SDI, which is awesome, but it’s only 3G? SDI is a secure connection and the ONLY connection we should be using to record externally, not HDMI. HDMI is done for monitors, but if gets bumped, you lose the take (or the entire live recording!). Cinema cameras don’t mess around with questionable ports. I wish panasonic lumix would give us an eva2 with proper SDI ports and ND filters, throw in IBIS and everyone will be happy.
A full on comparison review against the Z Cam E2-F6 would be a very interesting comparison, the Z Cam only costs $500 more. Pity the BS1H is missing internal NDs! (and why no IBIS?? Like the S1H) Guess we have to wait for an "EVA2"?
@Jerimiah Cook same here man , I am in love with that camera , for me it does what is intended to do, and keeps on surprising me. Coupled with an IRIX cinema lens and that camera is giving me amazing footage .
if they added global shutter, they would've had my money. I don't want to lose my EVF and screen and quick deployment for this. while i would love to transition to a lighter box camera, Id prefer the upgrades that could go along with that transition. Panasonic. Give us a global option, we will pay for it. Give us built in NDs. Give us higher frame rates at 6k and full frame options. Give us a better auto focus system.
@@clarke.inverarysome of the best cameras like the Arri Alexa had a rolling shutter. Same with most high end reds. A Fast enough sensor readout is almost as good as a global shutter and can maintain the dynamic range
wanted to ask if the fans could be turned completely off, and if they produce a lot of noise shooting in a small bedroom (8x10ft). would the noise be less than the atomos ninja v itself? also if the lowlight performance is about the same as an a73 or better (i kno the fx3/a7s3 would outperform it in lowlight because 12mp w/ larger pixels) is controlling the camera thru a ninja v an absolute chore or is it something u can live with?
why would you not remove the slow motion crop. as an s5 owner i love the camera but the crop at 50/60p is actually kind of a bigger deal breaker than i initially thought. Makes using primes a ballache. fix this and panasonic have got a winner
@@joe6793 late, but the FX6 has the same 12MP sensor as the A7S III. The FX9 has a 24MP which I believe is the same sensor used in the S1H, BS1H. Same APSC crop in 60p too.
one huge +1 for the Zcam F6, compared to the BS1H(assuming everything spec-wise is the same with S1H), is that Zcam F6 does NOT crop on 4k 60p, S1H would crop to S35 when shooting 4k60p
Once again Panasonic is super later to the party. I'm talking about, the police already broke it up, and there are just a few stragglers standing around looking "like what happened?" As a Varicam owner and a Komodo owner, I'd also say that no matter what you do with Panasonic footage it always leans towards a broadcast video look. They don't seem to be interested in cinema, even tho the flagship line is supposedly dedicates towards cinema. Having used Varicam since it came out, and just now getting into Red Eco system, I'd save up and get a Komodo if you're in the market for a box sized camera. Maybe Panasonic can redeem themselves with a FF Varicam Mini, but w/ V-Raptor making waves, they're already looking late again. Great review by the way CVP!
I’m noticing that “broadcast look” with most high resolution digital sensors. I shoot with the BGH1 and finding pleasing results with voigtlander lenses and shooting in 1080p. I’ve never personally shot on a red, but notice the same look/feel on the majority of what’s on UA-cam. Even 1917 had that super realistic look to me.
@@gurugamer8632 AUTO focus went really bad. I had this repared ( half the price of new..) it came back , still bad AF AND a SPOT apeared in the footage.... what was not there before.... so not happy.....
As a Bgh1 owner I wonder why they didnt release this camera earlier! was hoping for a bump up in specs from s1h (higher frame rates in 6k and 4k, prores internally??) I would like to upgrade for better image quality but m4/3 mount is just about as adaptable! and I just bought the mikaton T1.0 lens kit for m4/3 so I guess the upgrade will have to wait until they develop something new here.
Let us know what you think of the BS1H and how you would use it!
Would you consider a comparison between this and the Z cam e2 f6?
Another excellent video placing the capabilities in context, thanks :) I'd be interested in a comparison with the Sigma fp.
The time has come to produce an EVA2 6K with internal RAW and 4K 120p minimum.
The Full Frame cube is beautiful, but we need an EVA2 that goes to join an Eva1 not to substitute. I use Eva1 every day and is still a fantastic cinema camera
today.
@Random Thought yes of couse
If it had internal ND it would have won me over, I would happily pay the same price as the S1H if it did.
Pop the vizelex ND L to EF adapter on it and you have a winner!
@@joshstone4483 But it doesn't let you have no ND! it's 2-8! Also I'm trying to get away from EF Flange distance myself!
I feel like pretty much everything in the "what's missing" section is being held out for the EVA2. BS1H looks awesome! Definitely can't wait for a proper EVA successor though.
luvin my S1H !
That's the camera I've been waiting for since they went into cube territory !
I would LOVE to see a truely in depth comparison with the Z Cam E2 F6.
Panasonic please listen to your customers. The BS1H needs a small screen! Why make a tiny box camera and then destroy it's small form factor with a heavy external recorder & NPF batteries? On the positive side the S1H is still an amazing camera which I'll be using for many more years.
if they integrated the screen from the s1h in a static form, that would be great!
Locking, interchangeable lens mount would have been a great addition.
Internal NDs would have been nice too; (I suppose you could use the Tilta ND system tho).
I am very happy to hear that the stabilization has been removed. That means this camera can be operated on an FPV (or other) drone without image vibration / jello effect.
This will have a multitude of use-cases with the L-Mount Ecosystem continuously expanding! Great vid as always, CVP ❤
On the US it seems to be the same price as the S1H, at least on B&H. They could have used the opportunity to upgrade some things from the S1H on the hardware side, like higher fps or no crop on 4k60. As it stands, it's just like the FX3 is to the a7s3, which is fine I guess, but not really attractive
So, they just made a camera that Z CAM put out years ago without internal ND ability and a big fan.
Greetings, What are your thoughts on not having IBIS? Is it a deal breaker or would you just mount it?
Really depends on the kind of work you do! But there are plenty of cameras without IBIS that are great tools for people! Jake
It has an SDI, which is awesome, but it’s only 3G? SDI is a secure connection and the ONLY connection we should be using to record externally, not HDMI. HDMI is done for monitors, but if gets bumped, you lose the take (or the entire live recording!). Cinema cameras don’t mess around with questionable ports. I wish panasonic lumix would give us an eva2 with proper SDI ports and ND filters, throw in IBIS and everyone will be happy.
If it’s only 3g what’s that mean ?
A full on comparison review against the Z Cam E2-F6 would be a very interesting comparison, the Z Cam only costs $500 more.
Pity the BS1H is missing internal NDs! (and why no IBIS?? Like the S1H)
Guess we have to wait for an "EVA2"?
Lumix camera's HDMI feed is notorious for its lag. Does the SDI output on this improve on it?
3g sdi? Why in 2021?
Most probably to keep cost down. Jake
It’s the same specs as the S5 and the S5 has IBIS at half the price , why would anyone buy this camera ?
@Jerimiah Cook the s5 can do 6 k over hdmi also 30 FPS and the rest meh , not so needed .
@Jerimiah Cook same here man , I am in love with that camera , for me it does what is intended to do, and keeps on surprising me.
Coupled with an IRIX cinema lens and that camera is giving me amazing footage .
Please, could you help me with a concern, how can I record to an SSD with my BGH1? THANK YOU VERY MUCH
if they added global shutter, they would've had my money. I don't want to lose my EVF and screen and quick deployment for this. while i would love to transition to a lighter box camera, Id prefer the upgrades that could go along with that transition. Panasonic. Give us a global option, we will pay for it. Give us built in NDs. Give us higher frame rates at 6k and full frame options. Give us a better auto focus system.
I feel the same way.
Global shutter would have meant a big hit to dynamic range, and other compromises.
@@SoundSpeeding Global shutter is a must if you want to film action, dynamic range can be fixed through good lighting techniques.
@@clarke.inverarysome of the best cameras like the Arri Alexa had a rolling shutter. Same with most high end reds.
A Fast enough sensor readout is almost as good as a global shutter and can maintain the dynamic range
Please comparison between Panasonic BS1H vs ZCAM E2 M4,S6
Did BS1H fix the HDMI latency from S1H?
Is it possible to turn on the camera remotely?
Looks nice.. no RAW 12bit out ?
No video of the actual camera?
Thanks CVP
Great Video
Where is IS, Panasonic?
When is RED V-Raptor overview video coming out?
Aiming to release it this month at some point! Jake
wanted to ask if the fans could be turned completely off, and if they produce a lot of noise shooting in a small bedroom (8x10ft). would the noise be less than the atomos ninja v itself?
also if the lowlight performance is about the same as an a73 or better (i kno the fx3/a7s3 would outperform it in lowlight because 12mp w/ larger pixels)
is controlling the camera thru a ninja v an absolute chore or is it something u can live with?
Yes the fans can be turned off completely
@@Dezdirectz thanks for the info!
Lame
why would you not remove the slow motion crop. as an s5 owner i love the camera but the crop at 50/60p is actually kind of a bigger deal breaker than i initially thought. Makes using primes a ballache. fix this and panasonic have got a winner
They can't remove the crop because it's a sensor limitation. The FX9 has the same crop so blame Sony.
@@Stanleykubrick2 interesting. I swear the fx6 does 50/60p full frame 4k?
@@joe6793 late, but the FX6 has the same 12MP sensor as the A7S III. The FX9 has a 24MP which I believe is the same sensor used in the S1H, BS1H. Same APSC crop in 60p too.
Is this new rele3?
yes, just announced today!
one huge +1 for the Zcam F6, compared to the BS1H(assuming everything spec-wise is the same with S1H), is that Zcam F6 does NOT crop on 4k 60p, S1H would crop to S35 when shooting 4k60p
the f6 does crop in on 4k 60p depends on the codec
HOW ABOUT A7S III?
Once again Panasonic is super later to the party. I'm talking about, the police already broke it up, and there are just a few stragglers standing around looking "like what happened?" As a Varicam owner and a Komodo owner, I'd also say that no matter what you do with Panasonic footage it always leans towards a broadcast video look. They don't seem to be interested in cinema, even tho the flagship line is supposedly dedicates towards cinema. Having used Varicam since it came out, and just now getting into Red Eco system, I'd save up and get a Komodo if you're in the market for a box sized camera. Maybe Panasonic can redeem themselves with a FF Varicam Mini, but w/ V-Raptor making waves, they're already looking late again. Great review by the way CVP!
I’m noticing that “broadcast look” with most high resolution digital sensors. I shoot with the BGH1 and finding pleasing results with voigtlander lenses and shooting in 1080p. I’ve never personally shot on a red, but notice the same look/feel on the majority of what’s on UA-cam. Even 1917 had that super realistic look to me.
@@candyartstv voigtlander glass is an absolute treat!
This will make a great D-Cam to my setup!
EVA1 (A)
BGH1 (B)
S1H (C)
BS1H: Pending...
everything perfect except the lack of IBIS🤕
This camera is made for a gimbal or a drone.
The S1H is basically the same camera with IBIS
Panasonic could have named it BS5 since S5 and S1H share very similar performance but BS1H would allow them to charge more.
What is the point to make a camera at 6K or 8K if you are not able to make slow motion at 120fps at 4K ???
Too bad .. really bad experience with Panasonic. No thank you.
what happen
@@gurugamer8632 AUTO focus went really bad. I had this repared ( half the price of new..) it came back , still bad AF AND a SPOT apeared in the footage.... what was not there before.... so not happy.....
@@KarelZweefvlieger Which model?
@@gurugamer8632 HC -vxf1
As a Bgh1 owner I wonder why they didnt release this camera earlier! was hoping for a bump up in specs from s1h (higher frame rates in 6k and 4k, prores internally??) I would like to upgrade for better image quality but m4/3 mount is just about as adaptable! and I just bought the mikaton T1.0 lens kit for m4/3 so I guess the upgrade will have to wait until they develop something new here.
Sounds like the BMPCC 6k Pro beats this on almost every possible metric, including price. Hard pass.