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30 years ago I shot in competition and had traded for an Savage-Anschutz rifle in 22 LR, loved that rifle but traded it. One of the few that I wish I had never let go.
I shot an Anschutz 1907 Match 22LR as an alternate to the US Olympic shooting team in 1976. Back when you paid for all your own equipment and expenses. I enjoyed the Zen of 3 position very very much.
Most shooters do such mistake, if you think that new owner will enjoy the rifle you might come to terms with it.
I use to have a Anschutz 1710 H.B. it was my pride and joy! If you missed a target it was never the fault of the rifle. I truely loved that rifle!
I have an Anschutz .22 sporting rifle and the same is true.
I have a Anschutz 1710. HB w/2stage trigger, a 1761 Thumbhole & a CZ455 and all are very accurate but the 1710 is real hole puncher at 100yds. 😉 However it is not a rifle you want to cary far as it is like carrying a lead bar around.
@@jimhamilton3544 There is a reason Anschutz rifles have won more trophies than any other rifles on the earth.
Biathlon is my favorite winter sport. Ski like the fate of the world depends on it, then shoot a rabbit for dinner. Then ski again because you have an assignment due tomorrow. Beautiful machinery. Ganz gut!
Nice to see old machinists and old machines still in use . Had a 22mag Savage Anschutz from 1963 . It was amazing .
DEutsche WERkahbeit=)
Danke, Feinwerkbau, Walther und Anschütz dass ihr uns stolz macht!
Deutsche Gründlichkeit!
Deine Rechtschreibung ist leider nur zum kotzen.
I was in the Boy Scouts, and we went to a private rifle-range to get our Marksmanship badge.
The range was 50 meters (first time I ever heard that term!) and had five lanes.
At each lane was a 'genuine Competition rifle' used for the [named a year I do not remember] Olympics training Camp.
They weren't Anschutz (target shooting was held in 1971), but looked very similar.
For each shooter, the Range Instructor adjusted this and that; cheek-weld, eye relief, trigger-pull, reach...he spent at lest 5 minutes dialing in each rifle for each shooter!
It took hours (to a 14 years old everything takes hours) before I got my turn.
Fiddle, adjust...fire!
Five shots, one hole in the target.
I though I had missed 4 out of 5!
We all aced the 'exam' with 10-rings shots all day long.
With the beautiful peep-sights and all the adjustments available, you would have to be negligent to not hit the bullseye with a tricked-out Competitive rifle.
Great story :)
I had a similar experience in ‘76 at Boy Scout camp on Many Point Lake in Minnesota.
Once owned an Anschutz .22 magnum with 2nd trigger, which when pulled back made front trigger extra sensitive. Beautiful rifle, wish I'd never sold it.
I bought a beautiful bolt action rifle from a client of mine whose husband had died years earlier. She tried to give it to me but I wouldn't accept it and gave her what I thought it would be worth...$500. It had an adjustable set trigger (what you're talking about), adjustable match maple (?) stock and no manufacturer name on it, and no visible serial number, just a stamp. The only other thing stamped on the barrel was "WBY 257". There was no internet back then but I found out from a book that it was chambered in .257 Weatherby.
I couldn't find any. I didn't search too hard.
I traded it to a friend who was a sniper in Vietnam and an avid hunter for a 7mm magnum deer rifle and a Walther PPK pistol.
Some years later he sold it at an auction for $22,000.
It turns out that it was a custom made rifle by a world renowned gun maker. I wish I could remember the name, but it's gone. I wasn't mad at Randy because he didn't know it's value either, just as he put it, "It was worth the trade".
Superb design, engineering, and assembly. Much respect.
living in tropical island, and this amazed me much.... wow....
what a challenges and beautifully piece of engineering....
Afaik, there's an alternative called Target Sprint which the athletes ran for three laps and doing the same thing as biathlon for shooting. But yeah, Biathlon is an amazing competition shooting branch.
Skiing and shooting combined
Winter war in a nutshell
Except like a lot of other military inspired sports, it has been dumbed down. Biathlons were originally done by ski-soldiers with large caliber service rifles. These snowflake competitors would be dead in 10 minutes in real winter combat.
@@thirdactwarrior317 yes, its a sport now although I would love to start a more vintage style competition out here in the rockies with service stile rifles and backcountry skiis in deep snow
@@thirdactwarrior317 and the target don't fire back.
@@thirdactwarrior317 What we have here, ladies and gentlemen, an internet keyboard warrior that needs to sh!t on other people's skill to make himself feel better about his inadequacies.
@@thirdactwarrior317 That's like saying a Nascar race car driver must be shit at parking his car at the grocery store because he only drives around in circles at the race. It's a fucking spectator sport, they modified it so thousands of live viewers can be right next to the shooting range and see the action.
The Norwegian military still does military biathlon with large caliber rifles, but it's not a spectator sport.
Anschutz rifles are incredible. I owned a 1907, pin point accurate and a fantastic trigger.
The sad part in that the US Media will not even admit that there are shooting competitions in the Olympics.
Not really. The NBC UA-cam channel had the skeet competition on the top of their page.
@@sdhlkfhalkjgd How many shooting competitions are in the Olympics? They managed to mention Skeet? They give more coverage to Volley Ball.
What's really weird is that biathlon is absolutely huge in Germany, it's probably the most popular winter sport on tv. But on the other hand, if you tell somebody that you're a competition shooter (not biathlon) they're appalled and think you must be some psycho killer because "guns bad". It's almost like the skiing balances out the cognitive dissonance towards guns in most Germans.
I got to meet the President of the Company in his office, and check out rifles I was considering buying when I was teenager for competition. I had a Anschutz Super Air 2001 Air Rifle and a Anschutz Super Match Model 1813 (special for 84 Olympics serial number 69 of 1000). I still have the 1813. Sold the Air Rifle a couple of years ago. Have also shot a fair amount of the Metallic Silhouette rifles 54/64s.
Another nice piece, and an amazing process of how they're made! I still miss my old Biathlon rifle, though it was a Finnish Sako.
Sako makes a fine rifle if you said you didn't miss it I would have been surprised?
Did the great sniper Hayha use a Sako? Whatever it was it made the Russians wet their overalls.
I own an Auschutz (Savage), bought it second hand. Had it for over 30years. Won many competitions with it. Amazing Rifle, Very Accurate - Love it.
Very interesting! Thanks IBU
I started shooting with Eastern block airguns, switching to Anschutz's airgun or 22lr was incredible. Anschutz is probably the best company for this kind of sporting rifles.
Thank you.
Awesome video.
I hope one day I have a budget for one of their rifles. They're wonderful.
You and me both.
same
Excellent video, answers my questions on this very subject. Thanks 👍
damn fine product they make! i wanna give this a go with my old Glenfield model 60
Anschütz makes excellent rim fire rifles for targeting and sports.
Great overview! However, that process described at the three minute mark was not "burnishing" but rather, "bluing". Either a translation error or the production notes got mixed up. I'd be interested in what they were burnishing.
its also not bluing which is a controlled oxidation poses and may use sodium nitrate , this would be closer to parkarizing, although that would use phosphoric acid
@@woltews It looked to be to be some sort of industrial "bluing" process. A quick google on it and "hot caustic bluing" is a pretty common industrial process.
To quite from the narrator, "... so all the metallic parts have to take a bath in a solution of caustic soda. This process is called 'burnishing.' It creates an artificial layer of rust that gives the stock it characteristic color."
100% NOT "burnishing" (a mechanical process). Bluing made sense.
It would be better to cerakote them. Much more durable and it won't rust in the wet conditions as much. Rust bluing is not durable in these conditions in my experience
@@AR_119 they seem to be doing alright
Beautiful Precision 🏆👍❤️😷🇺🇲
Love my Anschutz .17 HMR with Weatherby stock.
I just love it....awesome!!!
Skiing and shooting. It's a Nordic Drive-by!
Some of the finest rifle made in the world 🌎
This is where a voice-over instead of subtitles would be very beneficial because then the viewer could actually watch the process at the same time ¿`_
Beautiful workmanship that produces beautiful guns that shoot beautifully. Just the thing to teach kids the responsibility and self control of marksmanship.
When he said, "Unt!" it reminded me of Young Frankenstein.
Interesting 👍🏼👏🏼
When he was talking about burnishing, he called the barrels stocks, right after saying they didn't produce stocks.
I wonder if there's ever a somewhat 'perfect' rifle that's shot spread is far closer grouped than should be possible? Probably save them for the German Olympic team lol
i am pretty sure that the rest of the acuracy is coming down to variations in the ammo/bullets
Well, wouldn’t you?? 🤣
Nice
Just as good as it gets ,,, its that simple.
Still shoot my 1966
savage/Anschutz Mark 10. Got my M. badge with it. Quality stands the test of time.
The name of the company reminds me of that tragedy in germany
Ah yes, the family business.
Fascinating!!!!!
I need one!
Google figured out I own one of these. And yes it's awesome.
I did not even know this kind of a sport existed
The IOC are not proud of any of their firearm sports.
Wow, I never knew such a big name in the accuracy/competition game doesn't even make their own actions... So who makes them?
Such a shame that this sport has been neutered from when countries used their service rifles to compete.
It would be so hilarious seeing them with today's service arms, fully kitted-out of course
Are the athletes getting better or just the equipment. Want to find out? Have them all use the same equipment.
Except for the russians, they practically do (at the top level)
Think of a rifle barrel at -20C
Then fire 5 rounds in 30 seconds
That thermal expansion has got to mess up the accuracy
If it were a higher caliber than .22 LR sure it would. I have a Savage Mk2 FV, heavy barreled rifle. I can run a full 10rnd magazine through it and still touch the barrel. And I do that in less than 30 seconds.
@@mikeford963 I use a Savage Mk2 TR, which is a BIG brother to the FV. I've never at any point feel the barrel get hot, at most warm. I normally breach load single shot as well and it's never too hot.
@@SidewaysX The Mk2 FV and the TR use the same action and barrel. The stock is the only difference between the two. And the fluting on the barrel. Which helps with heat dissipation a little bit
I fired my 10-22 with 25 round mag it does get warm to the touch give it a mintie is ready for more i don't want to push it.
What amazes me is such factory for biathlon rifles. How many of those guns are saled for year??
They did say they made hunting and match rifles as well, so plenty of business there
@@thomoski Thank you. My english is far from perfect so I miss a lot !!
They dnt show this anymore on cable used to watch it
NaOH always gives me flashbacks.
I want one
I was a little surprised when the guy testing the finished rifles said 15mm was OK. He didn't mention the distance but even if it was 50 meters that would result in greater than 1 moa accuracy.
Which, for a .22 LR is perfectly acceptable. Very few people can shoot sub MOA with a .22 unless they are dedicated bench rest rifles.
@@mikeford963 I have to disagree. I have a CZ AT-One that shoots under 1 MOA with Eley flat nose, not the best target ammo. I have 2 Ruger 10/22 with Green Mountain barrels that I took to the range last week and off a rest shot under 1 MOA. I read regular reports that a Volquatzen or a KIdd will shoot well under 1 MOA out of the box with good ammo.
I'm just surprised that a rifle as expensive as the Anschutz is satisfied with more than 1 MOA accuracy.
@@jimbuono2404 To be fair, they only have to HIT a 45mm circle, not keep their shots with in an inch at their distance, which I think 50m. My Savage MK2 FV will keep sub MOA at 50yards. But that's the difference between target shooting and hunting. I want a very small, consistent group for hunting. In target shooting, score matters more than a tight group, and the farther away you get, the larger the 10 ring usually gets.
@@mikeford963 I disagree. I have a very old Winchester single-shot bolt action that shoots right at one MOA.
@@fredsasse9973 And every manufacturer has their "built on a Wednesday" firearm as well. Also, doesn't matter how well built the rifle is if you can't shoot to begin with. You sir, can clearly shoot!!
1:54 Quite shocked that Anschutz don't actually make the "straight pull repeater actions" (or the stocks)! I think of the action as being the heart of any rifle. Does anyone know who makes the action for them?
Fortner Waffen makes the Fortner 1827 Straight-pull action, starting in 1984.
@@scottcrawford3745 Thanks Scott! Just looked it up and it does appear to be an Anschultz action albeit designed by Fortner but made under license from Anschultz.
Dankë mein herr! @@scottcrawford3745
Sweet.
1.10231lb minimum trigger pull.
Is there a chance in the future for PRS to be in the Olympics
I want to an old fashon peep sight competion,no fancy stuff on the rifle
i wonder, is there a service rifle division?
@Recjawjind the Sunbro \[T]/ I think that you didn't understand what I I meant im talking about returning to the sports roots and using vintage or current military style rifles instead of custom or accurized sporting rifles although i do agree it would be cool to see their version of a military service rifle
@@ryanrosenblum2552 There's a sport called "Military Patrol", that's basically that, nowadays mainly competed between military units. It's part of the woirld military games.
Too bad the rules aren’t “you must use the service rifle your country has adopted.”
Looks like I found the next squirrel rifle! 🤠👍
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Lol my old club had a lovely left hand rifle all there waiting for me and it was a anzuts 22lr and it didn't even have a bipid lol was a martini action but the trigger and stock were just so perfect that thing was drilling 97percents and I'd not even zeroed it It weighed more than me too lol but with a nice sling an glove and they were anzuts too god it's weird like I grew up saying and using the brand as it's taken over the sport but its incredible what a couple of dots above a letter can do god kook at how I wrote it and the title took me an age to figure out what was up there lol German small arms are just very nice and precise am glad to see the company still doing so well I mean we were spending a good bit just on sights and stuff no one bar me and are clubs treasurer had full anzuts rigs
So did Anschutz not start making .22 barrels until 1976 or just biathlon rifles?
Just biathlon, I had a 22 lr Anschutz rifle made in the 60’s.
Ma 1ère 22lr à 14 ans (1964) mono coup très précise tir à 100m sans rater les pigeons car l’argent n’était si facile pour acheter les munitions.je possède encore une Anschutz S Auto 1520 de 1975 très précise pour réguler les varmints.
15mm group at how many meters
Amazing craftsmanship and precision, this was fascinating.
I feel that the German automotive industry no longer holds quite the level of engineering and reliability prestige it once had since offshore manufacturing became standard practice.
In precision firearms though, Germany is still the world leader. Although I shudder to think how much a biathlon rifle might cost...
With the proliferation of precision firearms today, I'd hardly call Germany the world leader. These days just about anyone can get any old AR down to sub-MOA groups, and companies like CheyTac in the US are setting absurd records for distance and whatnot all the time.
have Anshutz with double set triggers presentation grade .222 rem,also a rimfire with bull barrel i fire only elley ten x out of that ,plus the high school team only anshutz for small bore.worst thing for these is cleaning better know how otherwise this is flower brought home to wither
They share or lease shop with/to Steyr?
Arguably the finest weapons on earth!
For that job maybe, but there is so much more to "weapons" that it is impossible to say what is "best". It all depends what you want to do with it.
It's not a weapon. It's a tool. Weapon implies that it's used against another human being, not just a target.
@@mikeford963 Fair point.
It isn't a weapon. That thing would be absolutely useless in any sort of fight, and not particularly well suited for hunting either. It's a piece of sporting equipment - more akin to a fencing foil than a broadsword.
It is a firearm. However, it is so specialized for a particular sport that it's lost any use for anything else. I wouldn't want to have to shoot at any kind of moving target with something like that, or take a reflex shot, or ride it hard and put it away wet. I wouldn't treat something like that anything near the same way I treated my M16A4 in Iraq - that was a weapon, this is not.
It's also true that it was developed from a weapon - which is why I say it is akin to a fencing foil, or one of those Olympic archery bows. All three of these pieces of equipment started off as weapons - rifles, swords, and bows specifically. Then, they became specialized not to be good weapons, but to excel in a specific competition (and, in the case of fencing foils, for safety). In doing so, they gain or emphasize features that would lead to success within the very specific parameters of the competition, as opposed to features which make for an overall good weapon. For instance, on this rifle, the aperture sights are designed for absolute precision - at the expense of target acquisition. You're firing at fixed targets at a known distance, you don't really need to be able to quickly acquire a target that may be moving or hiding or at undetermined range. Virtually every feature on this rifle is similarly designed - it's there to be good at biathlon, not to be good in general. Its design is so far attenuated from the original weapon it was based on that it cannot reasonably be called a weapon at all.
Personally, I think biathlon would be way cooler if rifles like these weren't allowed, and they had to use practical rifles, but then again, I don't make the rules, or know how to ski.
@@mikeford963 It isn't a tool either. It's sporting equipment. I wouldn't call a baseball glove a tool, and this is akin to that - a specialized piece of equipment designed for (and largely only useful for) a specific game.
What about left handed competitors?
Yeah, they make those as well. The model is called Anschütz 1827 Fortner L.
guarantee you some dude thats a good shot could do the same with a ruger 10/22
Nope. Not. Even. Close. BTDT
It’s my favorite most ridiculous sport.
18mm at what distance for range?
Targets are placed 50m away
reckfire
"Laura, say squirrel!"
the "anti-bullet" ???
I just want to see how some dude with a Ruger 10/22 and a Tasco 3x9 would stack up against on of these. If you’re not actually shooting groups for MOA and only counting hits of course. Mine can key hole shots easily at 50 yards.
We got a badass over here!
@@monkeycircus509 if by badass you mean shooting one of the most anemic cartridges out of a $200 rifle, with a $35 scope, then yes. Yes, I am most certainly a badass.
I'm really surprised they're not cold hammer forged barrels.
You don't see that part of the process. Forging of the barrel blank takes place before the machining step. I can't think of a single high quality rifle manufacturer that doesn't use a forged barrel.
@@mikeford963 of course they're all forged steel. But cold hammer forging is a different process of making a barrel where they run a form through the middle of the barrel while hammers all around shape the barrel to the correct dimensions as well as form the rifling. It saves a step and gets a really uniform and polished finish since there's no cutting of lands and grooves or marks from a rifling button. A lot of the best barrels in the world are cold hammer forged.
@@jimtheedcguy4313 yes, but for a .22 that's actually a lot more work than is necessary. A cold forged barrel still has to have the hole drilled through, then they put a mandrel inside that has the rifling machined onto it, then it's hammer forged into it's final length and dimensions. There actually MORE steps to cold forging a barrel than just button rifling and lapping.
@@mikeford963 I don't think you understand what I'm talking about, like at all. I understand they normally forge a blank, drill it, ream it then rifle it. But there's more than one way to skin a cat, and cold hammer forging a barrel with the lands and grooves done already is just another, more efficient way of doing it. You should probably look it up on this platform. Theres plenty of ar type barrels that are made this way, which are 22 caliber, so it's definitely not more trouble than its worth. Glock barrels are a prime example. I own plenty of them, and have seen the process done, countless times, and is generally exactly as I've described it. You start with a blank, with a hole drilled through it that's larger than the final bore diameter, as well as the outside dimensions being larger than the final values. After forging with a mandrel inside that has the lands and grooves cut onto it, the metal stretches, and is cut to correct dimensions, externally machined for desired contour, and reamed for the chamber. You don't button rifle a cold hammer forged barrel as you do it in the forging process.
Edit : I think in your original comment, you assumed I didn't know that all firearm barrels were forged, but obviously I'm well aware of that. I was just referring to a process called "cold hammer forging" which is colloquially used to describe the process above. Of course there's other forms of cold hammer forging, but generally speaking, that's what people mean when they say cold hammer forging in the context of firearm barrels.
Edit 2: my oem 10/22 barrel is cold hammer forged as well. Definitely not more trouble than its worth.
@@jimtheedcguy4313 I'm aware of the cold forging process. Very aware. The blanks they start with are quite a bit shorter than the blanks used for these rifles as they stretch out during the forging process. I warched a Sako factory tour where they showed that process. In the end they still had to refine the rifling, lap the rifling, chamber the barrel etc...
But all that is a lot machinery for a "lowly" .22, regardless of hour much you pay for it.
They should all be forced to use something like an M1 garrand
A military rifle in sports? Sure and drive formula 1 in Humvees...
Ty German quality
Yeah, but if we equip our national team with .45-70 Govt. rifles, we won't have to worry about hitting the center of the target. I feel like I am always the one who has to come up with these solutions...
0:50 - what he doing??
That is a barrel straightener.
What is* he doing?
Very cool. However, me with a rifle while skiing....not good.
I never understood the connection between skiing and shooting (????). Maybe it would be better running and shooting or swimming and shooting, or even better, synchronized swimming and shooting could be awesome, dude!
In scandinavia there is a long tradation of soldiers using skiing to travel in winter. That's biathlons origin.
I suggest you take a look at the wikipedia pages of Simo Häyhä and the Winter War.
Sking and hunting small game has long been a tradition in Scandinavia.
Cuz, the butt plat's connected to the butt stock, and the butt stock's connected to the . . .
I was all on board until I saw that they were using solid wood stocks.
For a competition rifle that gets used outdoors in different weather, I would want a synthetic stock that doesn't move as much as wood in temperature and humidity changes. Solid walnut is great to look at but not the best choice for consistency.
For competitors it tends to be coated waterproof, so humidity isn't a problem. Temperatur also no big difference between Wood and plastic.
@@svenblubber5448 yes it does have a difference.
Wood expands, contracts and shift more than plastic.
That is how wood grain works vs plastic (or metal) which is relatively consistent in grain and density.
@@zososldier I'm pretty sure they have already been trying all available options and had a good reason to stick with wooden stocks. And it's not like the top athletes will use the same stock for more than a couple years. They'll get a new one as soon as there's the tiniest problem with the old one.
Spread of 15 mm I think seems too much. That's 33% of the target's 45 mm.
propose something better that works at a starting temp of -20C. I think you dont understand the problem
I would think carbon fiber would be superior to wood (not affected by temp, moisture). Anschutz must also factor in the half kilo of sponsor bling stuck on the rifle.
Some custom stocks are carbon fiber or composites; also the latest trend is 3D printed stocks. So plenty of options beyond the original stock.
Anschutz is good. But ordinary savage can make the same group at 50m. Depends on the shooter.
For the last 40 years i thought those biathlon rifles were made by Viessmann.
Hmm 🤔?
A whole sport that's basically practice for sniping invading Russians.
.22 LR? Really? lol right on
Damnit! the u-umlaut, ü, is not pronounced like the letter u. Round your lips like you are going to say u but make the long e sound instead. Most German Americans anglicized the u-umlaut by replacing it with a ue. Müller became Mueller and then the grandkids often changed that to Miller to get people to pronounce the name more correctly.
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The athletes should be issued the standard battle rifle for each country's army. These fancy rifles are cheating.
There's a sport called "Military Patrol", that's basically that, nowadaYs mainly competed between military units. Olympic shooting events are always competed in .22lr because thats what most people around the world can own, any other calible is impossible or very difficult to get in many places.
@@svenblubber5448 I'd like to see them tote a Garand around.
@@svenblubber5448 It's not even that much about ownership, you can own bolt-action rifles in most countries rather easily. I live in Germany and we have absolutely crappy gun laws, but if you get a sports shooting card (1 year waiting time) then you can buy 10 bolt-action rifles of any caliber (except .50 BMG) with no further questions asked.
I think the switch to .22 lr was to make it more viewer-friendly, first because you can locate thousands of live viewers directly behind the shooting range with no ear protection, and second because it doesn't look as militaristic (which is a big problem in many countries).
Not going to buy a rifle with die cast parts... Cant believe they say these are the best. Not with die cast........
18mm at 50M is barely inside 1.25 MOA (off a solid jig)... not what I'd call a super accurate rifle, not at that price.
This sport should be using a real hunting caliber. Not 22LR.
Olympic shooting events are always competed in .22lr because thats what most people around the world can own, any other calible is impossible or very difficult to get in many places.
@@svenblubber5448 By this logic they should be doing their cross country skiing on roller skates since its also impossible or very difficult to get snow in many places.
Why would they? It´s elite level sport, not hunting or driving down to the shooting range, crackin beers and doing loud bangs.
@@jamesrichardvankliff9262 Because the sport is based on winter hunting in the mountains.
@@benjaminboyle7329 Your point there is? Austria and Germany for example. You´ll buy a hunting rifle, if you are a hunter. You´ll get a military rilfe, IF you are in the military. Sorry to break it to you, but gun enthusiast are a rare kind in the EU... where the olympic games are from. They are using sport weapons for sports in modern times, there´s nothing to complain about. Other then the point, that it´s a complete waste of materials, to shoot guns at all, unless in defense of your country and freedom, but hey, you do you.
rimfire crap