@@Dr_Mario2007 A an ex-vaper & biologist, I went down many rabbit holes about vaping safety. The worrying thing is that from what I remember, popcorn lung from diacetyl was discovered in popcorn factory employees, not vapers. There seems to be this idea that because something is safe to eat, that it will be safe when heated to 200C and inhaled. Yes, VG, PG and even nicotine seem relatively safe when used this way, but what about all the other flavors etc. One example would be sucralose, the sweetener used in almost all vape juices - in food use they recommend against using it in higher temperature cooking because of the breakdown products. If it can break down during cooking, who knows what the breakdown products are when used at vaping temperatures, but it seems to get very little attention.
18:14 In the US, people who make homemade liqueurs and infusions specifically seek out Polmos Spirytus from Poland because Everclear is so crudely fermented and distilled. Its full of undesirable compounds and you can even get it to louche to a very faint blue color with ice water as you push those compounds out of solution.
It's very much used in cooking, baking and making various stuff you mentioned, so I'd expect there to be a lot of angry people if the quality of spirytus was crap :D Meat in stew doesn't want to get tender? Spirytus. Want to make fried dough retain less oil? Spirytus. Have too much of some fruits, nuts or such? You guessed it, spirytus xD
the green stuff is likely the organic nitroso compound formed by the addition of nitrous acid, which then tautomerises to form the ketoxime; aromatic nitroso compounds, which can't tautomerise, tend to be green or blue also, I was surprised by the second half of the procedure - I'd have thought sulphuric acid by itself, under reflux, would have been enough to hydrolyse the oxime excellent work all round!
Apropos of literally nothing 😅 ..... If you put a gun to my head and told me my survival depended on whether I thought this comment was a fact or made up, I can confidently say that I would have a 50/50 chance of surviving. There are so many words I've never heard.. and yet it sounds life there's no way it could be inaccurate... Now extrapolate this paradigm onto the current state of social media. Every day there are people who DO find themselves in this exact same situation.. And the thing is, they won't even know that a random tweet they read today might save their life in 5 years... Unless they win that 50/50 coin flip. Think about it. How many "pro tips" do you read on a daily basis? Do you have any idea how many of those factoids are absorbed into your brain for future reference? Consider how many times you've said something like "oh I saw something about that online the other day..." At least once a week I come across a fact that could possibly save my life. Like, the fact that during floods, you don't just want to get above the water, you need to get above the water in a location where you will not get trapped should the water level rise above the floor you are on. For example, do you know if your attic has a path of egress that will let you escape should flood water rise higher than your house? Think about it. How many people do you think don't know that answer? And of those, how many do you think would notice there is no window or vent they can escape from when they are going into the attic to escape a flood that is almost as tall as their house? I would think not many would even consider it-- at least unless they had come across this factoid at some point and their brain stored it away for future reference. And sadly the only reason I know this fact is because it happens often enough that a random public service announcement found its way into my UA-cam algo a few years ago. All that to say.... Bro those are some big words 🤣
We should've always known diacetyl was cursed from it's color alone! Good thing you followed lab safety protocols by eating that popcorn in a fume hood.
I think the smells of chemistry are one of the best parts about it. It's neat to have apple, pear, or butter. But I really like the smells of toluene and gasoline. I can't pretend that it bothers me. I don't sniff it to be high or whatever. But I do appreciate the chemically scents.
I love the smell of Xylene. Permanent markers. I’ll sit at work just sniffing a fresh sharpie for about 5 minutes. I can’t get enough of it. I like the smell of many things that are not good to inhale. What does that tell you? I don’t know… I used to do the same thing with gasoline, especially when I was a kid. Until I actually worked at a gas station for 3 years, that kinda ruined it for me.
I've recently started learning perfumery as a hobby, so synthesizing any sort of fragrance or flavoring is super interesting to me! There's so many cool synthetic raw materials in perfumery. Endless possibilities. Iso E Super is probably the most common and smells amazing.
I was waiting for a chemistry video to watch, preferably turning absolutely inedible chemicals into slightly inedible ones, I haven't watched the video, but I like your content.
I'm pretty sure the yellow color is due to conjugation in the O=C-C=O part of the molecule. A lot of conjugated molecules are colorful as they absorb in the visible part of the spectrum (in this case absorbing in the blue part of the spectrum, leaving red and green alone and appearing yellow)
I got an chemistry idea : turning white spirit into some fragrant esthers and smell it. This can be done by transforming the hydrocarbons into alcohols and carboxylic acids and make them react together using an acidic catalyst.
Diacetyl is a product of beer fermentation when you not respect some temperatures. Sometimes is small quantity and sometimes is like drinking a glass of butter.
I have asthma and a few different kinds of allergies, and I am pretty sure there’s something in popcorn butter flavoring that I am allergic to because it closes up my throat and gives me a horrible headache and sometimes nausea. I did some research into the chemicals and found out about the “cardboard” lung condition. It was interesting and concerning lol
I also have autoimmune issues with asthma/allergies presenting, and the diacetyl smell induces fear in me on some primal level. I just feel like I have to get away from it.
Diacetyl was also a big deal in the vape community. It used to be in a ton of vape flavors, then people read about popcorn-lung, and it became a witch hunt to figure out which producers were and weren't using it.
I once worked in a flavor's lab, where some acetaldehyde and diacetyl were put inside the fridge. One day, the fridge's door blow out with a great explosión. No one get hurt. But those compounds forms oligomers and peroxides. Many of them are shock sensitive. Store it in a different place from your other chemicals.
Never distill your dried product still including the drying agent! Sodium sulfate gives off the water again already at a temperature of 40 degrees Celsius. Instead the dried product has to be decanted from the now wet drying agent and then redistilled.
Since you bent so many molecules to your will, resulting in their suffering, you shall from now on be known as "Amateur Chemist, Oppressor of Molecules"
Diacytal (or however it's spelled) was a problem chemical for a long while in the vaping community as it was one of the ingredients in certain flavours of e liquid, and there was a concern about the inhalation of such a compound that has in larger quantities caused a respiratory decease (unsurprisingly known as popcorn lung) that was discovered amoung people who worked in popcorn manufacture. There's still no hard evidence either way whether the lower doses found in certain e liquids caused any adverse effects over long term exposure. But most (if any) flavourings these days don't contain it which is very reasonable considering they were created for the purposes of inhalation
Nice video, it remainded me that my first project (wwhen i was still at uni) was turning lemon flavvor into spicy menthol flavor (limonen extract to carvone) thx for the upload
Sodium sulfate is a nice, but slow drying agent, and.... it loses crystallization water around 30°C. This means, it did almost nothing in the distillation step, and it was mostly salting out (table salt would do the same), a bit of chemical waste.
My thoughts exactly. Instead of the second distillation, use a transfer pipette to remove the upper, salted out, diacetyl. Transfer to test tube and use transfer pipette to remove any bits of water from the bottom, then dry with MgSO4, filter
Yeah, I also thought about using table salt and doing this salting step before the distillation, but in the procedure, they specifically stated to use sodium sulfate so I just didn't want to deviate too much :)
@@Amateur.Chemistry OK, then it makes sense First time, by the letter, do as written, After than, modify, it's not forbidden, Third time, with works like charm Make it up! There is no harm! xD Personally even with salting, I would still distil it, hate extractions XD
I've been watching your videos for some time now and I see a huge progress with quality and scale. Just wanted to wish you good luck on future projects
1:01 hey dude love your videos :) can you try to make a kind of perfume with a flowery smell? Like make the molecule that smells like rose and then turn it into a perfume? I would actually buy that as merch! Would love to see it happen
it really makes you question humanity when a serious lung disease has a common name of "popcorn lung" because so many people got it while working for terrible pay to create _microwave popcorn._ like, what a waste of human lives for what? a _snack???_
I first thought you were going to show us how to make butric acid at home. A really useful chemical for beekeepers that we are not able to buy in Australia. It's great for removing bees from walls and from trees without killing them.
Old chemistry books are treasure troves of experiments. Though often with way less safety behind it, old school labs would give us little safety heart attacks now
Interesting observation: prolonged, chronic, exposure of diacetyl can cause a lung condition referred to as 'popcorn lung', and diacetyl is also used as an artificial butter-imitating flavor for popcorn?
I think diacytal can be naturally made using a contaminated carboy (plastic buckets in particular) when fermenting wine. I had this problem when I switched from glass to plastic. I've since gone back to glass because in this instance, diacytal definitely doesn't taste like butter. It's pretty awful.
I was thinking of attempting a selective oxidation of MEK with H2O2 using copper chloride as the catalyst in the hope it would yeild a mixture of diacetyl and acetoin amongst other things. A suggestion from chatgpt lol that I'm now thinking won't be very effective... I'm thinking it will not work or there would be papers on it. There is prep using vanadium pentoxide/phosphorus pentoxide in a VP ratio of 1.6 though this might be a 300°c mek vapour reaction. In any case I don't have any V2O5
Ok, now do Jasmine Perfume from something none of us expect to create such a smell. I & everyone else actively await your next perfume creation video lol But also; Love It ❤️
Megachonker is the coolest word I’ve seen in a long time. Is that a thing, like in the urban dictionary? Or did you just make it up? Either way, you’re a genius. Love the videos. I just wish you wouldn’t be so careful all the time. Not kidding… Yes, I’m the guy who huffs magic markers… I think I’m fine.
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Now go and make chemically pure popcorn
Even though the process would probably get rid of some of the taste you could probably replace it with other chemicals
@@ricardscabs1199 imagine infusing them with methyl salicylate to make popcorn that tastes like mint but works like asprin
POP ROCKS 😂
NileRed made a pure cookie now Amateur Chemistry needs to do pure popcorn
BAKE IT WITH STYROPYRO LASERS
I can feel like some laboratory worker is about to have a brain aneurysm from witnessing eating in a lab.
I am a 3rd year chem student and am about to have a brain aneurysm.
I don't eat in the lab, but ngl, I drink water inside
2:40 The horrifying thing about that is there are tons of unscrupulous companies out there making vape cartridges with butter flavoring inside them.
you'd probably be better off vaping literal butter.
also that sounds like something you take to any unsafe products law group and they jump on it and you get paid.
turbo cancer
I'd rather vape fruit flavor... I have heard about the popcorn lungs and it's incredibly nasty.
@@Dr_Mario2007 A an ex-vaper & biologist, I went down many rabbit holes about vaping safety. The worrying thing is that from what I remember, popcorn lung from diacetyl was discovered in popcorn factory employees, not vapers. There seems to be this idea that because something is safe to eat, that it will be safe when heated to 200C and inhaled. Yes, VG, PG and even nicotine seem relatively safe when used this way, but what about all the other flavors etc.
One example would be sucralose, the sweetener used in almost all vape juices - in food use they recommend against using it in higher temperature cooking because of the breakdown products. If it can break down during cooking, who knows what the breakdown products are when used at vaping temperatures, but it seems to get very little attention.
18:14 In the US, people who make homemade liqueurs and infusions specifically seek out Polmos Spirytus from Poland because Everclear is so crudely fermented and distilled. Its full of undesirable compounds and you can even get it to louche to a very faint blue color with ice water as you push those compounds out of solution.
It's very much used in cooking, baking and making various stuff you mentioned, so I'd expect there to be a lot of angry people if the quality of spirytus was crap :D
Meat in stew doesn't want to get tender? Spirytus. Want to make fried dough retain less oil? Spirytus. Have too much of some fruits, nuts or such? You guessed it, spirytus xD
i was wondering if he was using spirytus and only saying everclear for the audience... this is how i make nalewka
the green stuff is likely the organic nitroso compound formed by the addition of nitrous acid, which then tautomerises to form the ketoxime; aromatic nitroso compounds, which can't tautomerise, tend to be green or blue
also, I was surprised by the second half of the procedure - I'd have thought sulphuric acid by itself, under reflux, would have been enough to hydrolyse the oxime
excellent work all round!
Apropos of literally nothing 😅 ..... If you put a gun to my head and told me my survival depended on whether I thought this comment was a fact or made up, I can confidently say that I would have a 50/50 chance of surviving.
There are so many words I've never heard.. and yet it sounds life there's no way it could be inaccurate...
Now extrapolate this paradigm onto the current state of social media. Every day there are people who DO find themselves in this exact same situation.. And the thing is, they won't even know that a random tweet they read today might save their life in 5 years... Unless they win that 50/50 coin flip.
Think about it. How many "pro tips" do you read on a daily basis? Do you have any idea how many of those factoids are absorbed into your brain for future reference? Consider how many times you've said something like "oh I saw something about that online the other day..."
At least once a week I come across a fact that could possibly save my life. Like, the fact that during floods, you don't just want to get above the water, you need to get above the water in a location where you will not get trapped should the water level rise above the floor you are on. For example, do you know if your attic has a path of egress that will let you escape should flood water rise higher than your house? Think about it. How many people do you think don't know that answer? And of those, how many do you think would notice there is no window or vent they can escape from when they are going into the attic to escape a flood that is almost as tall as their house? I would think not many would even consider it-- at least unless they had come across this factoid at some point and their brain stored it away for future reference. And sadly the only reason I know this fact is because it happens often enough that a random public service announcement found its way into my UA-cam algo a few years ago.
All that to say.... Bro those are some big words 🤣
@@Lucky9_9we're in the same boat 😭😭
Great to know that the smell that i loved was slowly turning* my lungs into cardbord
Czekałem na kanał taki jak ten. Regularnie wrzucane materiały na tematy chemiczne. Cieszę się, że tutaj jestem ❤
We should've always known diacetyl was cursed from it's color alone! Good thing you followed lab safety protocols by eating that popcorn in a fume hood.
jfc you got me with that curve ball my guy
I think the smells of chemistry are one of the best parts about it. It's neat to have apple, pear, or butter. But I really like the smells of toluene and gasoline. I can't pretend that it bothers me. I don't sniff it to be high or whatever. But I do appreciate the chemically scents.
The smell of automobile grade ethanol is divine! And the escape of some old gasoline cars have a really pleasant scent.
I love the smell of Xylene. Permanent markers. I’ll sit at work just sniffing a fresh sharpie for about 5 minutes. I can’t get enough of it. I like the smell of many things that are not good to inhale. What does that tell you? I don’t know…
I used to do the same thing with gasoline, especially when I was a kid. Until I actually worked at a gas station for 3 years, that kinda ruined it for me.
Other people: Buttered popcorn flavor
Me: Is this a good solvent?
I've recently started learning perfumery as a hobby, so synthesizing any sort of fragrance or flavoring is super interesting to me! There's so many cool synthetic raw materials in perfumery. Endless possibilities. Iso E Super is probably the most common and smells amazing.
babe wake up new amateur chemistry video dropped
I was waiting for a chemistry video to watch, preferably turning absolutely inedible chemicals into slightly inedible ones, I haven't watched the video, but I like your content.
HELL YEAH! and i was just thinking when would the next video be, you are super entertaining dude keep up the amazing work!
Now lets vote for Uranium Chemistry!
That's reserved for January.... #pdk
I'm pretty sure the yellow color is due to conjugation in the O=C-C=O part of the molecule. A lot of conjugated molecules are colorful as they absorb in the visible part of the spectrum (in this case absorbing in the blue part of the spectrum, leaving red and green alone and appearing yellow)
I got an chemistry idea : turning white spirit into some fragrant esthers and smell it.
This can be done by transforming the hydrocarbons into alcohols and carboxylic acids and make them react together using an acidic catalyst.
Diacetyl is a product of beer fermentation when you not respect some temperatures. Sometimes is small quantity and sometimes is like drinking a glass of butter.
8:55 add some carbonation to that and you've got yourself some forbidden fanta
I have asthma and a few different kinds of allergies, and I am pretty sure there’s something in popcorn butter flavoring that I am allergic to because it closes up my throat and gives me a horrible headache and sometimes nausea. I did some research into the chemicals and found out about the “cardboard” lung condition. It was interesting and concerning lol
I also have autoimmune issues with asthma/allergies presenting, and the diacetyl smell induces fear in me on some primal level. I just feel like I have to get away from it.
Diacetyl was also a big deal in the vape community. It used to be in a ton of vape flavors, then people read about popcorn-lung, and it became a witch hunt to figure out which producers were and weren't using it.
I once worked in a flavor's lab, where some acetaldehyde and diacetyl were put inside the fridge.
One day, the fridge's door blow out with a great explosión. No one get hurt. But those compounds forms oligomers and peroxides. Many of them are shock sensitive. Store it in a different place from your other chemicals.
Ancient polish thaumonomicon of yellow chemistry saving the day!
The forbidden butter 💀
Never distill your dried product still including the drying agent! Sodium sulfate gives off the water again already at a temperature of 40 degrees Celsius. Instead the dried product has to be decanted from the now wet drying agent and then redistilled.
Since you bent so many molecules to your will, resulting in their suffering, you shall from now on be known as "Amateur Chemist, Oppressor of Molecules"
Diacytal (or however it's spelled) was a problem chemical for a long while in the vaping community as it was one of the ingredients in certain flavours of e liquid, and there was a concern about the inhalation of such a compound that has in larger quantities caused a respiratory decease (unsurprisingly known as popcorn lung) that was discovered amoung people who worked in popcorn manufacture. There's still no hard evidence either way whether the lower doses found in certain e liquids caused any adverse effects over long term exposure. But most (if any) flavourings these days don't contain it which is very reasonable considering they were created for the purposes of inhalation
Nice video, it remainded me that my first project (wwhen i was still at uni) was turning lemon flavvor into spicy menthol flavor (limonen extract to carvone) thx for the upload
Sodium sulfate is a nice, but slow drying agent, and.... it loses crystallization water around 30°C. This means, it did almost nothing in the distillation step, and it was mostly salting out (table salt would do the same), a bit of chemical waste.
My thoughts exactly. Instead of the second distillation, use a transfer pipette to remove the upper, salted out, diacetyl. Transfer to test tube and use transfer pipette to remove any bits of water from the bottom, then dry with MgSO4, filter
Yeah, I also thought about using table salt and doing this salting step before the distillation, but in the procedure, they specifically stated to use sodium sulfate so I just didn't want to deviate too much :)
@@Amateur.Chemistry OK, then it makes sense
First time, by the letter, do as written,
After than, modify, it's not forbidden,
Third time, with works like charm
Make it up! There is no harm! xD
Personally even with salting, I would still distil it, hate extractions XD
I've been watching your videos for some time now and I see a huge progress with quality and scale.
Just wanted to wish you good luck on future projects
Thank you!
man, these 50-70ish year old eastern bloc chemistry books is always such a treasure trove of interesting syntheses.
1:01 hey dude love your videos :) can you try to make a kind of perfume with a flowery smell? Like make the molecule that smells like rose and then turn it into a perfume? I would actually buy that as merch! Would love to see it happen
Thanks! I have a project like this on my to-do list :)
@Amateur.Chemistry great !
it really makes you question humanity when a serious lung disease has a common name of "popcorn lung" because so many people got it while working for terrible pay to create _microwave popcorn._
like, what a waste of human lives for what? a _snack???_
this feels like the plot of a bad fantasy story, except, it's not direct human sacrifices, but intentional negligence for the sake of profit
i hope no taste test on this one, king
Nice job. Yes, old handbook are phantastic, do you know Vogel ? Diacetyl is also a phosphor.
Thanks! Yes, I know Vogel, and I will reference it a lot in one of my future videos :)
NileWhite&Red
(Polish chemistry beer/mead project when? jkjk tho it would be cool to see imo)
I first thought you were going to show us how to make butric acid at home. A really useful chemical for beekeepers that we are not able to buy in Australia. It's great for removing bees from walls and from trees without killing them.
Now you must synthesize "sotolon" -- the smell of maple syrup.
Anyone else come here straight from a DankPods video and get slapped in the face with the headphone comparison song?
Here we go again
I didnt expect this to have such a terrifying "idk what any of this is, but supposedly i wont die" adventure.
Very interesting and inspiring !!!
Thank you!
Old chemistry books are treasure troves of experiments. Though often with way less safety behind it, old school labs would give us little safety heart attacks now
My favorite chemistry channel 🙌🏽
10:10 Forbidden lemonade
So paint stripper can make cherry soda and butter flavoring...
Any chance we find out it can make a film reel too?
Make aldehyde c-14 next!
Really nice video! Sadly youtube has no way ro transfer the smell...
that's a very good thing, this stuff is nasty
I can't believe it's not butter! (note: it is in fact, not a butter)
Gotta put your butter flavour in the penjamin for maximum poison damage
yay! "do what you oughtter, add acid to water!"
Yes, more organic chemistry!
the two that got arrested were probably flying the drones through the abandoned buildings, had nothing to do with the drone sightings
You should synthesize something that smells interesting to your cat.
Interesting observation: prolonged, chronic, exposure of diacetyl can cause a lung condition referred to as 'popcorn lung', and diacetyl is also used as an artificial butter-imitating flavor for popcorn?
I wonder why the 2nd step isn't just a simple hydrolysis.
Is the nitrous acid necessary to remove generated hydroxylamine?
its to oxidize the =N-OH moiety
I think diacytal can be naturally made using a contaminated carboy (plastic buckets in particular) when fermenting wine. I had this problem when I switched from glass to plastic. I've since gone back to glass because in this instance, diacytal definitely doesn't taste like butter. It's pretty awful.
There's so much yellow
I was thinking of attempting a selective oxidation of MEK with H2O2 using copper chloride as the catalyst in the hope it would yeild a mixture of diacetyl and acetoin amongst other things. A suggestion from chatgpt lol that I'm now thinking won't be very effective...
I'm thinking it will not work or there would be papers on it.
There is prep using vanadium pentoxide/phosphorus pentoxide in a VP ratio of 1.6 though this might be a 300°c mek vapour reaction. In any case I don't have any V2O5
Ok, now do Jasmine Perfume from something none of us expect to create such a smell. I & everyone else actively await your next perfume creation video lol
But also; Love It ❤️
Ngl you deserve more subs and views, hopefully UA-cam will promote your videos❤❤
Vinegar, which to my nose has a complex and nuanced aroma, is a very simple molecule.
Add it to butter for butter^2
No one made smelly organophosphines on youtube before
All these yellow appearing in your chemistry... >_>
Megachonker is the coolest word I’ve seen in a long time. Is that a thing, like in the urban dictionary? Or did you just make it up? Either way, you’re a genius. Love the videos. I just wish you wouldn’t be so careful all the time. Not kidding… Yes, I’m the guy who huffs magic markers… I think I’m fine.
17:33 Интересно, он образует пероксидные соединения?
We get it bro you vape
How about making betaionone next? :)
Perfect !
Thanks!
Much appreciate the artistry of light, and the chemistry. But I'm still confused how an excess of NO2- in H2SO4 can convert an oxime to a ketone.
Oh my day just got made let's go
Apparently butter flavoring is imitating cultured butter, and that's why sweet cream butter is nothing like it.
2:58 this is why salt flavouring is 35$
How many more steps to turn diacetyl into diacetylmorphine? Do they just sound similar, or are they really a couple of steps away from each other?
It's called standing on the shoulders of giants. Sometimes known as ripping off someones hard work. ;P
The nitrogen dioxide can be directed to the inlet of a Bunsen burner and destroyed by combustion.
Make esters pls
Are there any ozone-smelling compounds that aren't wildly toxic?
could you please measure the amount of mercury in fish? various brands from the grocery store.
omw to posmarować meine sandwitch tym butter
Those color changes were cool.
Thanks For letting us see. Amateur Chemistry 🫡
have you had any project that you made video on, but couldnt upload them becouse they didnt work out ? ? ?
Yeah, quite a few actually with the most recent one being making a copper mirror from copper acetate :)
Is vapour of diacetyl also yellow?
Unfortunately no, it's colorless :)
Try nutritional yeast on your popcorn
Alas… in the states NaNO2 is now unavailable as a pure chemical.
Can you make a video? How to make peracetic acid
Amateur danger
True, butter has neither much smell or taste, and none of the artificial butter flavours taste anything close to butter.
Yummers
Nice!
Thanks!
You always seem to be making me hungry these days, I'm scared lol.
polish nile red
My idol
everything is toxic if you take enough of it.
Yellow chemistry 😂😂😂
where are you from? interesting accent. italian? central/east european?
He's polish.
im partial to butyl acetate
Moo kitty 🥹🫶🤗
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