I quite like the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, Spiderman: Blue, and Spiderman Renew Your Vows, but then again I haven't read a lot of Spiderman comics. I guess that is why I am watching this video.
The "Spidey" comic by Robbie Thompson is great. The only real problem being that after Thompson's original run, a new writer took hold of it and made it resemble the Spider-man Homecoming movie.
I read that run. And you're completely wrong. The comic run itself predates Spider-Man: Homecoming's preproduction. If anything Spider-Man: Homecoming adapted Spidey (2016) Issue 6.
@@Cage._.Triggered He's talking about the continuation. The first 12 issues were great on their own. But the series was continued later in 2017, that literally tries so hard to be Homecoming. And it sucked.
@@chrispy3369 The Vulture/Iron-Man issue was issue 6 and I'm pretty sure that's included in the great first 12 issues you're talking about. Also it didn't continue. There was a one time extra book called "Spider-Man: Master Plan" following that particular continuity, but it was really bland, probably why it didn't lead to a revival.
Besides Stan Lee and Steve Ditko run. I also recommend the following issues ( 39 to 111) drawn by John Romita Sr, since together they all create a memorable phase showing Peter growth from a shy loner high school student to more confident and responsible man with better social skills and connections with people like Harry Osborn, Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane.
@@troyoboyo17 Same (although my favorite is Mark Bagley). I really like the "Chad" design Romita Jr. gives for Peter, represent well his growth from nerdy kid from the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko run to the more self-confident flirty guy.
If you’re looking for early Spider-Man stories, trade paperbacks are your best friend. I recommend the Marvel Masterwork Amazing Spider-Man books. Life Story is a great pull by the way.
yeah I've been trying to get my hands on those masterwork books of spidey, but they're always sold out. any place where I can get it for fairly cheap? I prefer the physical book.
@@animator4287 I got the first two from gosh comics but they’re also available on forbidden planet Volume 3 I got on amazon but volume 4 I’m having a lot of trouble finding
I am SO jealous of your editing in this video! Like this is such a good-looking video, whether it's the way you animated the comic covers and panels, the backgrounds behind them, the on-camera stuff, or the man in front of the camera himself. Seriously such an awesome video that will get a bunch of people into comics and that's so darn rad
I would also recommend spiderman blue. Its the story of how peter met gwen stacy and talking about his life after her passing. If you know about gwen stacy you WILL love this story
Do you think you could maybe do more "how to get into" videos on characters like: Green Arrow Superman Daredevil Batman Green Lantern Captain America Iron Man Thor Flash Black Widow Etc.... Or for any character's you'd liked to pick.
@@SSJofZ Cool, thank you for the recommendation. I actually have the first volume to Scott Synder's Batman The Court of Owls. Funny that Frank Miller wrote for both for Batman and Daredevil and practically redefined the character's.
It is so awesome that you made this. I imagine there's a lot of comic fans who live and die by a specific comic run as the definitive Spider-Man reading material, so I was glad to see you gave people so many varied options. Despite how big Marvel and DC were to me growing up I didn't start reading comics until my teens, but even then it was mostly DC. The only Spider-Man run I've actively collected is the Ultimate comics. I only started collecting those last year and LOVED reading them, they were just really well written and I liked how far they were willing to go with presenting things like Kingpin or the Symbiotes as really horrifying and violent. That and I also got a couple years ago The Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus Volume 1, that's like at least the first 40 issues of the original comics and is more fun to read purely for the introductions to so many iconic characters and stories rather than it being a definitive version of how those characters and stories are now remembered, nearly everyone begins as genuinely unlikeable to some degree. I got big into getting classic Spider-Man comics the last few years; The Night Gwen Stacy Died, Kraven's Last Hunt, and just recently Spider-Man: Blue, but Spider-Man: Life Story is genuinely my single absolute favorite Marvel comic, maybe of all time. That thing blew me away, it was like the Dark Knight Returns or Old Man Logan of Spider-Man comics, it made me actually feel something when reading it. As you said it's just a shame it wasn't longer, that and it definitely reads better if you've got a wider knowledge/history of the Spider-Man comics that came beforehand, the changes are a lot more interesting that way, like Venom in that is one of the most genius changes I've ever seen in a comic. Same for the Ultimate comics, things like the reimagining of the Symbiotes is really interesting knowing the changes made to the original story, but then things like the Goblins whilst certainly intimidating are... well at least Norman Osborn himself is great in that.
I worked at a comic shop for years, the biggest advice I always give is just to jump in somewhere, and if things are important they'll fill you in while you're reading. If you don't get something just brush it off or look it up as Troy said in the video. A lot of new readers will even find new books to read by looking up details brought up in an issue. After a while you'll be just as comfortable as anybody else. Another good option is to ask someone at your shop to help you find stuff. I know a lot of shops have a bad reputation (deservedly) but a good place will try to ask you about what you like and suggest some books based on that. It was always my favorite part of the job.
@@STARLIGHT_KSA There’s two sides to it, there’s no perfect jumping on point, but that also means there’s no wrong answer. A lot of the time my suggestion is to jump on when a new writer takes over a book! Happy to make some specific recs if you’re looking at specific characters
@@KobytheHero I just wanted to to watch spider man comics , but I'm still lost , I look up the comics this guy told us abt but I still hardly understand what's going on that comic
Personally really recommend the Superior Spider-Man run. Even though it wasn’t really consequential and has some issues. It’s still really cool, and goes a long way in redeeming doc ock.
Honestly, I began reading the comics with Amazing Fantasy #15 and went up from there to Amazing, reading the annuals and other series like Spectacular or Web of only if they picked my interest or were directly referenced, and even if it's a gigantic compromise I have a lot fo fun doing so. It really takes me back, imagining how grandiose these old adventures were and how much better some of these stories could be today, and seeing the evolution of Peter from the Ditko era to Romita's is something you can only get done to it's fullest in this medium from these old comics. I thinks that's a good approach to begin reading the character, although one I would only suggest if you, like me, have such a great love and admiration for the character and don't want to read much else. Ultimate Spider-Man is a good series, but I could never quite get into it, and re-reads are somewhat boring for me due to the first arcs up to Issue 60 or so being all around the place with Shield, Kingpin, the Ultimates, and the X-Men, so I'd recommend it if You're way more familiarized with Marvel as a whole (Either just by watching the movies or TV shows) and want a story that feels way more consistent and in tune with modern storytelling. Finally, I'd say begging with the modern run, almost just taking any issue the store could have in shelves right now, is a great way to go about it if you want to read Spider-Man, but the medium, as in the comics themselves, aren't something you're used to. That way you can get ahold of how they work, with super nice and clean art, and you get to know which aspects of the character and his universe are still around today.
Hi dude. Soooo… I feel like this is a bit out of the blue, but since I first saw the TASM 2 rewrite, I’ve been trying to write a hypothetical TASM 3 pitch based off of your proposals and that post credit scene that you added with Harry. (If anybody asks me why I wouldn’t post it under that video’s comment section, I was going to, but it’s doubtful anyone would see it in that video’s comment section given that it’s almost a year old.) But, I have to ask-was that scene of Harry taking the GR-3314 serum meant to be in reference to Harry’s drug addiction in the original comics? Because that’s probably going to be a major element in his descent into madness in this hypothetical story. But I don’t think I’ll be able to add stuff like that Miles tease or the origins of Doctor Octopus, because I feel like those stories should be saved for a future installment rather than placed in a story that’s mainly about the destruction of Peter and Harry’s friendship and the subsequent creation of the Green Goblin. Having the origins of two major supervillains, one of which isn’t even the focus of this story, feels like a bit much to me, and I feel like there should be more explanation of Otto’s motives and history before he becomes a supervillain. And Miles’ origins can be detailed in a solo live action Miles movie, which can have the disappearance of Spider-Man after the Goblin’s rampage as a major story element and maybe have that Miles-Peter team up tease at the end, especially with this big Spider-Man Cinematic Universe that Sony was trying to make. But if anyone has any ideas, then, well, I’m open to suggestions. I’m really sorry if this is a bit random, but since this is a Spider-Man video, I figured now is as good a time as any. Hope y’all have a good day 😊
I really love the original Stan lee 100 issue run. Implicitly pretentious references how the rami movies were actually a very fundamental misunderstanding of Spider-Man. Peter in the original comics was a lot more self doubt the reader even begins to doubt at some points if what Peter is doing is right. It also recontextualized mcu Spider-Man because I. Peters highschool era the peter situation we treated very similarly to how they are in the mcu movies. The Peter Parker story’s in the highschool era were very sitcom esk but that’s why Stan lee gave you the punch in the face with Spider-Man no more. It was pretty much a punch in the face to peter. He realized that it wasn’t that he did better without Spider-Man but rather he began to doubt himself and question weather or not he needs to be Spider-Man if as the 60s cartoon says if action really was his reward Spider-Man wasn’t a burden nothing really changed in his personal life leading peter to reconnect with uncle Ben who hadn’t been a major figure in his life he was only mentioned a couple times In the first 30 issues Peter more had idolized other hero’s like the human torch rather than his uncle. But him quiting being Spider-Man made him stop doubting himself if the violence really was what was keeping him going. He stops caring what jjj says and remembers why he started again very similar to no way home. Peters main struggle for the rest of the run turns into his struggle with self doubt. Also… u should like at least make it a beard or a goatee. Idky but seeing the stash alone makes me uncomfortable
this was a good and very helpful video, will probably send this to anyone who asks me about how to get into comics. regardless of whether or not they mentioned spider-man. everyone needs to read spider-man
5:13 just ordered volumes 1 & 2 for my son after he showed me this video awhile ago. It's the one he said he wanted to officially start his collection with. I can't WAIT to surprise him when it shows up tomorrow. I DID contact the local shops in town but none had vol1 so I did what I had to. But we're going to hunt through our state's local shops and collect the rest of the series.
PLEASE do more of these. This video was both entertaining and has given me the push to finally read Life Story (I've had it sat on my shelf for like a month)
this is literally the clearest recommendation to follow, like all the other videos i watched kept swinging back and forth (pun intended) and i didn't know where to start. The thing i love about this vid is i finally have a guide to follow, so thanks!!
I got into reading Spider-Man through “spiderverse” I love how they have a big book that literally compiled the whole story of that event and that’s the thing with marvel comics you can just start reading by EVENTS like if you wanna read about civil war then go ahead it’s easily accessible, then if you wanna get into like stuff that’s being adapted into the MCU you can find those too idk I’m just happy I got into reading the marvel comics and the story are just so great and it’s leaving me hoping that the MCU would soon adapt to the big screen
wow this was so fun! i remember when i was in high school & first started reading comics & definitely thought there was like a "right order" to read everything in --- but then I quickly found out no its like one long mega soap opera with no real proper way to start. I wish mcu movie tickets came with like a little list of good books or runs to start with because I feel like theres big mc fans who make lists for the best order to watch the movies in & it makes me wonder if comic newcomers would be looking for something similar (even though decades of issues and crossovers can't really be neatly organized)
I watched this video a while back but didn't think of it much until I was in my local comic store and found the spidey collection and because of this video I decided to pick it up and I don't regret it! I'm going to try to pick up Master plan some time soon as well as getting the amazing spiderman comics when they start coming in April!
The way I look at it, "Spidey" by Robbie Thompson most likely can't be canon since Peter didn't meet Harry or Gwen until after High School, to me that's too big of a change to ignore it, unlike say, the time period being updated, or a character wearing the wrong outfit during a flashback any silly stuff like that. Speaking of reboots of the Lee/Dikto era, have you ever heard of the "Spider-Man: Chapter One" and "Marvel Age: Spider-Man" series that both remake the first 20ish issues? If you've ever read any of either, I wouldn't mind hearing your thougths, but you won't get a penny for them.
Just read Stan Lee's run. People know that he created Spider-Man, but most people haven't actually read his comics. The same goes for all his other comics. There are some other good stories, but it's better to just read those old ones. Also, those are the first ones, so you won't miss anything.
I recommend to anyone who wants to read any hero's comics to start with it's first run to understand that character better. Definitely start with stan lee/ditko run of amazing Spiderman so you could get the story they wanted to tell and understand what that character is really about
"Obviously trying to read all 800+ issues of amazing back to back is gonna be tough" **Me, sweating because i'm doing exactly that right now....+ spectacular, web of spider-man, peter parker and everything else that is canon within the 616 universe of spider-man**
@@troyoboyo17 I forgot to mention I'm also gonna read a ton of alternate Spideys so I'm 100% ready for the Spider-verse events (just because I'm THAT crazy)
@@TokuNorth I usually try to read about 5 a day at least, but I have ended up taking a couple of lengthy hiatuses. The first was during the late 70s era, because a lot of stories from that time were either fucking weird, or just kinda forgettable, so my interest was slowly waning. The second hiatus was in the mid 90s, right after finishing the Clone saga, because that story dragged on for so long and got so stupid, that I was completely exhausted by the end of it.
This was awesome and really helpful! I would love to see more videos like this especially if you did one for the Fantastic Four. I really want to get into reading them but have no idea where to start.
Rob Jefferson’s Comics Explained is a great way to learn about comics. If you have gaps in your knowledge of continuity, he’s pretty damn comprehensive.
i really enjoyed all the spiderman content ive seen or read or whatever but ive never read any comics. i wanted to, but i never knew where to start! so thanks haha
I think you Finally summed up that 12-issue "Spidey" series for me, it's pretty much the NEW Canon origin story and early days, no? I know Earth-616 is CONSTANTLY shifting their timeline forward to stay relevant, so this is my best guess
thanks so much for making this video! i've been meaning to start reading the comics for quite a while but didn't know where to start bc there's so many so thanks for the direction :)
My basic strategy when getting into a certain comic book character: Start from their very first story and read them chronologically until you get the gist (sometimes that means until you read the origin, sometimes it’s reading through that infamous story arc everyone talks about, sometimes it’s when you get acquainted with the whole rogues gallery or at least the archenemy, it’s all just personal preference). Then bounce around to the highly recommended stories (popular stories, stories recommended from people you know or fellow comic book buffs, etc.) and/or other stories that look interesting to you. Probably the most straightforward and effective way of doing it that gives you a good glimpse into the character and their history and has shaped me into the confident, smelly comic book nerd that I am today :P
just picked up Spider-Man: Life Story today! I already was a massive Spidey fan but didn't read much besides the original Lee and Ditko books when I was younger. Thanks for the recommendations!
I binge-read the Incredible Hulk comics, and the renumberings it went through. I had planned on doing the same with Spider-Man. The problem is, however, Spider-Man eventually got FOUR BOOKS that were being made simultaneously (during the 80's and 90's, I believe). That wouldn't be a problem, except the stories being told weren't contained individually within each books. They overlapped. The incredible Harry Osborn Green Goblin storyline ended in the Spectacular Spider-Man run. The Other storyline by JMS was told in various Spidey books, as opposed to being contained to a single title (preferably Amazing). It's a challenge I'm willing to take on, but convenience is hardly a factor if you want to binge-read the main storylines online. Trade paper backs are an option (which does organize the stories as best as possible), but for a guy who doesn't have enough to spend, this is going to be a real hassle. But I'm willing to pull through because I really want to get as much of the full experience of Spider-Man as I can.
Honestly, for a long time I had had several problems regarding which comics to read before or after regarding Spider-Man, but this video is so good, so nice and in a certain way funny that I will leave the disorderly order that I was following and I will follow these recommendations, many Thank you
Ayy I'm so glad there were a few here that I hadn't read cause I usually feel so lost for when to start reading Spidey comics, can't wait to jump into the science teacher run, love that shit
I would recommend the superior spiderman for start ...yes I know it's hard to understand for maybe the first issue because of all that doc octopus stuff but if you know the characters you can understand it after the first issue and this is how I got to the spiderman comics
I'm showing my age here but I got into Spider-Man though the 1994 Fleer trading card line. They did such a great job explaining Spidey, establishing his friends and foes, along with recommending tons of great stories to pick-up. Don't even get me started on Mark Bagley's amazing artwork.
Just stumbled onto your channel and absolutely loved it and recommended it to my other super hero fan buddies who I’ve been encouraging to get into Spidey comics. Also love your pre-write series for Spider-Man 4 and your Clark pre-write! You deserve more views and subscribers and just letting you know I love your work.
From what they hinted at in the miles morales game, it seems like Peter might be teaching in Spider-Man 2 on ps5. I never knew about that story but I think that’ll be a really cool story considering Insomniac’s Spider-Man is a little older, and since he has Miles around he can probably somewhat handle a stable job.
I really like these types of videos because it helped me find a lot of comics I never had heard of that I now love. Please keep doing more or just recommending lists on Twitter!
Maybe this is a weird or unpopular pick but I really liked Dan Slott's take on Spider-Man for a while, Big Time, Superior Spider-Man and Spider-Island are great stories. But Ultimate Spider-Man has to be my favorite. It is the most consistent. But, if we are talking stand alones, Spider-Man: Lifestory is hands down one of the best Spider-Man comic books out there. P.S. I love JMS but I can't look past The Other, Sins Past and One More Day. I've said it many times, they really just need to stop doing the clones and Morlun. Those are the worst parts of Spider-Man (minus the Gwen sleeping with Norman and getting pregnant bit, ew).
Slott’s run was kind of all over the place for me, I liked it up until Superior ended and it felt like he was just not into it anymore but stayed on for a super long time
@@troyoboyo17 same. He lost me following Superior Spider-Man. The Parker Industries stuff was gross and without any direction. Big Time and Superior Spider-Man are my favorite stories from that arc. Like yes, I love Peter as a science teacher but him working in a lab and making money by reverse engineering his own Spidey tech has the same energy as teen Peter who tried to sell his web formula but more mature. I like watching Peter use his mind and as much as I like him teaching or even working as a photographer, I really wish he'd work in the sciences/engineering.
Really cool video, just read Amazing Spider-Man #30 and I really enjoyed it. Ultimate Spider-Man may be my favorite comic series of all time, and I agree that Life Story was a really intriguing concept executed well.
The only Spiderman comics ive read are the orginal run and about the first 20 issues because I believe my parents got me some sort of limited subscription. I really liked them but they're not very deep story telling. I'd really like a long running Spiderman comic kind of in the same vain as Invincible. Simply following a hero during the different points in life that he'll experience throughout his life. Teens, twenties, thirties, married life, being a parent, and then finally the ultimate climax as his most wizened and strongest point in his life culminating in an ending that could (possibly) leave the character cemented into legend as he is.
6:00 hold up! They brought the CRIME MASTER back?! God I loved his design in the original stuff! He was so cool with his gun and gas and rivalry with the Green Goblin!
I picked up the Spidey series by Robbie Thompson & Nick Bradshaw in the form of a complete collection TPB titled Freshman Year and I have to say it’s a fantastic read. 🤘🤘🕷️🕸️
I was really intimidated at first when I wanted to get into the comics because I grew up with the movies and shows and I thought to myself"you know why don't I read the comics?" This is where my favorite superhero originated i might as well give them a try. Thankfully there was a good stepping-stone for me and that was the marvel masterworks collections you can get. Everything from the Stan and Steve ditko Golden era to the works of Peter David and Jeff loeb. Now I'm avid fan/reader.
one criticism: the thing in the beginning about DC reboots, well their latest reboot made it so every comic ever is now Canon and happened. so DC is the same way as Marvel now, whether that a good thing or a bad thing.
I would like to see this become a new series for your channel. Maybe you could do future videos on how to get into reading other famous comic book characters.
I only got into Spider-Man comics recently with the release of Life Story's hard cover which I thoroughly enjoyed though I do agree that it was short with the 2010s in particular feeling rushed through that didn't stop it from being my personal favorite Spidey story I have every experienced which immediately got me reading more, grabbing stories that peek my interest(my general approach to comics) with me having already picked up Ultimate Spider-Man and Renew Your Vows
Life story is so good. I guess it’s really good for those who are getting into comics for first time. Part of the joy was seeing how they would interpret classic Spider-Man beats into the timeline
@@aryan7767 definitely agree, with the adaptation of Kraven's Last Hunt and honestly the entire symbiote saga being one of my favorite versions of the story with Peter's reliance on it being completely recontextualized due to his age
As a person who has only watched your Spider-man videos, damn sorry troyoboy17. I felt bad when you said it at 0:49. I'll try to give your other vids a shot :")
Where to start is a great question but I think a kuch overlooked question is where to stop? Good stories end and if theres an arc that catches your fancy its cool to jump back in but sometimes i just wanna read some great stuff and put it back down and not get bogged down in Clone Sagas and Deals with the Devil. Where should you stop with any long and ongoing comic?
I actually started reading Spider-Man comic books which was the ultimate run when I was younger. I also read the classical run, but i have to say I find the nick Spencer one of my favorite runs. If no one has read it and hates modern Spider-Man 616 universe this comic run will change your mind.
Let me know what your favorite Spider-Man comics are!
Ultimate spider man... most consistent series ever
I quite like the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, Spiderman: Blue, and Spiderman Renew Your Vows, but then again I haven't read a lot of Spiderman comics. I guess that is why I am watching this video.
Spider-Man Blue. It's such a sad and beautiful love story between Peter and Gwen
Oh yeah also Lee's spider man after ditko left
Batman: The Long Halloween
The "Spidey" comic by Robbie Thompson is great. The only real problem being that after Thompson's original run, a new writer took hold of it and made it resemble the Spider-man Homecoming movie.
Yaa I wasn’t a huge fan of that lolll but I guess whatever they can do to bring in new readers from the movies is a good thing so
I read that run. And you're completely wrong. The comic run itself predates Spider-Man: Homecoming's preproduction. If anything Spider-Man: Homecoming adapted Spidey (2016) Issue 6.
@@Cage._.Triggered He's talking about the continuation. The first 12 issues were great on their own. But the series was continued later in 2017, that literally tries so hard to be Homecoming. And it sucked.
@@chrispy3369 The Vulture/Iron-Man issue was issue 6 and I'm pretty sure that's included in the great first 12 issues you're talking about. Also it didn't continue. There was a one time extra book called "Spider-Man: Master Plan" following that particular continuity, but it was really bland, probably why it didn't lead to a revival.
@@Cage._.Triggered Literally just look up Spidey: School's Out and you'll see what I mean. Apparently it's only Digital, but it is a continuation.
Besides Stan Lee and Steve Ditko run. I also recommend the following issues ( 39 to 111) drawn by John Romita Sr, since together they all create a memorable phase showing Peter growth from a shy loner high school student to more confident and responsible man with better social skills and connections with people like Harry Osborn, Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane.
Romita Sr is probably my favorite classic artist for Spidey I adore the way he looks
@@troyoboyo17 Same (although my favorite is Mark Bagley). I really like the "Chad" design Romita Jr. gives for Peter, represent well his growth from nerdy kid from the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko run to the more self-confident flirty guy.
@@troyoboyo17 He also perfected Mary Jane.
Agreed
I really love issues 39-40 where both Spider-Man and the Green Goblin discover each other’s identities. And the “secret tablet” story arc from 68-75.
Thank you, Troy. Thinking about reading my first ever "Spiderman" comic now.
Finally you can stop reading ShitDevil and watching Shitzilla and you can engage in some quality underrated media
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@@BrendanJSmith The hyphen is very important.
spider-man please don't make me cry
Ultimate Spider-Man helped me get into comic books so I personally have an appreciation for these books. Spidey is also really good.
If you’re looking for early Spider-Man stories, trade paperbacks are your best friend. I recommend the Marvel Masterwork Amazing Spider-Man books. Life Story is a great pull by the way.
yeah I've been trying to get my hands on those masterwork books of spidey, but they're always sold out. any place where I can get it for fairly cheap? I prefer the physical book.
The Marvel Epic Collections are also fantastic.
@@animator4287 I’m not sure. I got the first 4 volumes at a Barnes and Noble and they’re the black cover reprints.
@@animator4287 I got the first two from gosh comics but they’re also available on forbidden planet
Volume 3 I got on amazon but volume 4 I’m having a lot of trouble finding
I am SO jealous of your editing in this video! Like this is such a good-looking video, whether it's the way you animated the comic covers and panels, the backgrounds behind them, the on-camera stuff, or the man in front of the camera himself. Seriously such an awesome video that will get a bunch of people into comics and that's so darn rad
Cole you are far too good to me
Ay Critical Rants, I watch your vids all the time
*the appropriate level of good for you
I am so happy you've introduced me to ALL THIS FANTASTIC comics. I will 100% read these. Respect!!!
I would also recommend spiderman blue. Its the story of how peter met gwen stacy and talking about his life after her passing. If you know about gwen stacy you WILL love this story
DO NOT READ THE ZEB WELL RUN
Why
Oh, boy. Exactly my thoughts.
@@omarqigoxw2029Oh, you sweet summer child.
@@Robin_Is 😭lmaoo imma just take their word for it
@@omarqigoxw2029Spare your soul.
Do you think you could maybe do more "how to get into" videos on characters like:
Green Arrow
Superman
Daredevil
Batman
Green Lantern
Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Flash
Black Widow
Etc....
Or for any character's you'd liked to pick.
For Daredevil just read Frank Miller's run
For Batman just read Scott Snyder's run
@@SSJofZ Cool, thank you for the recommendation. I actually have the first volume to Scott Synder's Batman The Court of Owls. Funny that Frank Miller wrote for both for Batman and Daredevil and practically redefined the character's.
@@milkiassamuel780 True lol
yes!
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Whos the author?
Ultimate Spider-Man was one of my first comics and a large part of how I fell in love with the medium. Love it so much.
It is so awesome that you made this. I imagine there's a lot of comic fans who live and die by a specific comic run as the definitive Spider-Man reading material, so I was glad to see you gave people so many varied options.
Despite how big Marvel and DC were to me growing up I didn't start reading comics until my teens, but even then it was mostly DC. The only Spider-Man run I've actively collected is the Ultimate comics. I only started collecting those last year and LOVED reading them, they were just really well written and I liked how far they were willing to go with presenting things like Kingpin or the Symbiotes as really horrifying and violent.
That and I also got a couple years ago The Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus Volume 1, that's like at least the first 40 issues of the original comics and is more fun to read purely for the introductions to so many iconic characters and stories rather than it being a definitive version of how those characters and stories are now remembered, nearly everyone begins as genuinely unlikeable to some degree.
I got big into getting classic Spider-Man comics the last few years; The Night Gwen Stacy Died, Kraven's Last Hunt, and just recently Spider-Man: Blue, but Spider-Man: Life Story is genuinely my single absolute favorite Marvel comic, maybe of all time.
That thing blew me away, it was like the Dark Knight Returns or Old Man Logan of Spider-Man comics, it made me actually feel something when reading it. As you said it's just a shame it wasn't longer, that and it definitely reads better if you've got a wider knowledge/history of the Spider-Man comics that came beforehand, the changes are a lot more interesting that way, like Venom in that is one of the most genius changes I've ever seen in a comic. Same for the Ultimate comics, things like the reimagining of the Symbiotes is really interesting knowing the changes made to the original story, but then things like the Goblins whilst certainly intimidating are... well at least Norman Osborn himself is great in that.
I worked at a comic shop for years, the biggest advice I always give is just to jump in somewhere, and if things are important they'll fill you in while you're reading. If you don't get something just brush it off or look it up as Troy said in the video. A lot of new readers will even find new books to read by looking up details brought up in an issue. After a while you'll be just as comfortable as anybody else.
Another good option is to ask someone at your shop to help you find stuff. I know a lot of shops have a bad reputation (deservedly) but a good place will try to ask you about what you like and suggest some books based on that. It was always my favorite part of the job.
I always get confused in what order I should start the comics , like now I have seen many videos with different starting points
@@STARLIGHT_KSA There’s two sides to it, there’s no perfect jumping on point, but that also means there’s no wrong answer. A lot of the time my suggestion is to jump on when a new writer takes over a book! Happy to make some specific recs if you’re looking at specific characters
@@KobytheHero I just wanted to to watch spider man comics , but I'm still lost , I look up the comics this guy told us abt but I still hardly understand what's going on that comic
NOOO TROYO NOOOO NOT ZEB WELLS ASM SPIDERMAN! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
6:07 terribly aged recommendation. (Do NOT read the current Wells run.)
One more recommendation by me: roger sterns run on spider-man
I second this
The JMS respect already makes this video miles above others.
Personally really recommend the Superior Spider-Man run. Even though it wasn’t really consequential and has some issues. It’s still really cool, and goes a long way in redeeming doc ock.
I’m reading it rn and it’s awesome
Man the Zeb Wells reference did NOT age well😂
I low key needed this and happy I got notis
I absolutely love the ultimate spider-man 2000-09 comic series, i loved reading everything minute
Im sorry, but Zeb Wells is a terrible writer. And hot take here, but he's masscaring Spideys' legacy worse than OMD ever did.
Honestly, I began reading the comics with Amazing Fantasy #15 and went up from there to Amazing, reading the annuals and other series like Spectacular or Web of only if they picked my interest or were directly referenced, and even if it's a gigantic compromise I have a lot fo fun doing so. It really takes me back, imagining how grandiose these old adventures were and how much better some of these stories could be today, and seeing the evolution of Peter from the Ditko era to Romita's is something you can only get done to it's fullest in this medium from these old comics.
I thinks that's a good approach to begin reading the character, although one I would only suggest if you, like me, have such a great love and admiration for the character and don't want to read much else.
Ultimate Spider-Man is a good series, but I could never quite get into it, and re-reads are somewhat boring for me due to the first arcs up to Issue 60 or so being all around the place with Shield, Kingpin, the Ultimates, and the X-Men, so I'd recommend it if You're way more familiarized with Marvel as a whole (Either just by watching the movies or TV shows) and want a story that feels way more consistent and in tune with modern storytelling.
Finally, I'd say begging with the modern run, almost just taking any issue the store could have in shelves right now, is a great way to go about it if you want to read Spider-Man, but the medium, as in the comics themselves, aren't something you're used to. That way you can get ahold of how they work, with super nice and clean art, and you get to know which aspects of the character and his universe are still around today.
Love that you had Spidey on your list. It is such an under appreciated title. Life Story is phenomenal
Hi dude.
Soooo… I feel like this is a bit out of the blue, but since I first saw the TASM 2 rewrite, I’ve been trying to write a hypothetical TASM 3 pitch based off of your proposals and that post credit scene that you added with Harry.
(If anybody asks me why I wouldn’t post it under that video’s comment section, I was going to, but it’s doubtful anyone would see it in that video’s comment section given that it’s almost a year old.)
But, I have to ask-was that scene of Harry taking the GR-3314 serum meant to be in reference to Harry’s drug addiction in the original comics? Because that’s probably going to be a major element in his descent into madness in this hypothetical story.
But I don’t think I’ll be able to add stuff like that Miles tease or the origins of Doctor Octopus, because I feel like those stories should be saved for a future installment rather than placed in a story that’s mainly about the destruction of Peter and Harry’s friendship and the subsequent creation of the Green Goblin. Having the origins of two major supervillains, one of which isn’t even the focus of this story, feels like a bit much to me, and I feel like there should be more explanation of Otto’s motives and history before he becomes a supervillain. And Miles’ origins can be detailed in a solo live action Miles movie, which can have the disappearance of Spider-Man after the Goblin’s rampage as a major story element and maybe have that Miles-Peter team up tease at the end, especially with this big Spider-Man Cinematic Universe that Sony was trying to make.
But if anyone has any ideas, then, well, I’m open to suggestions. I’m really sorry if this is a bit random, but since this is a Spider-Man video, I figured now is as good a time as any. Hope y’all have a good day 😊
Sounds interesting! Would love to read your take
@@nerdmakessillymovies It’s still a work in progress, but I’ll try and post it here when it’s done.
R u done
@@aryan7767I think it’s safe to say he either didn’t or he forgot about this comment thread
I really love the original Stan lee 100 issue run. Implicitly pretentious references how the rami movies were actually a very fundamental misunderstanding of Spider-Man. Peter in the original comics was a lot more self doubt the reader even begins to doubt at some points if what Peter is doing is right. It also recontextualized mcu Spider-Man because I. Peters highschool era the peter situation we treated very similarly to how they are in the mcu movies. The Peter Parker story’s in the highschool era were very sitcom esk but that’s why Stan lee gave you the punch in the face with Spider-Man no more. It was pretty much a punch in the face to peter. He realized that it wasn’t that he did better without Spider-Man but rather he began to doubt himself and question weather or not he needs to be Spider-Man if as the 60s cartoon says if action really was his reward Spider-Man wasn’t a burden nothing really changed in his personal life leading peter to reconnect with uncle Ben who hadn’t been a major figure in his life he was only mentioned a couple times In the first 30 issues Peter more had idolized other hero’s like the human torch rather than his uncle. But him quiting being Spider-Man made him stop doubting himself if the violence really was what was keeping him going. He stops caring what jjj says and remembers why he started again very similar to no way home. Peters main struggle for the rest of the run turns into his struggle with self doubt. Also… u should like at least make it a beard or a goatee. Idky but seeing the stash alone makes me uncomfortable
this was a good and very helpful video, will probably send this to anyone who asks me about how to get into comics. regardless of whether or not they mentioned spider-man. everyone needs to read spider-man
I just started reading into the spider-man comics and this was super helpful. I'd love to see this type of video for other heroes
I’ve been reading the og spidey comics from 1963 and honestly I’m kinda addicted 😭
5:13 just ordered volumes 1 & 2 for my son after he showed me this video awhile ago. It's the one he said he wanted to officially start his collection with. I can't WAIT to surprise him when it shows up tomorrow. I DID contact the local shops in town but none had vol1 so I did what I had to. But we're going to hunt through our state's local shops and collect the rest of the series.
PLEASE do more of these. This video was both entertaining and has given me the push to finally read Life Story (I've had it sat on my shelf for like a month)
I would love to see a Batman version of this video. Well done Troy
this is literally the clearest recommendation to follow, like all the other videos i watched kept swinging back and forth (pun intended) and i didn't know where to start. The thing i love about this vid is i finally have a guide to follow, so thanks!!
That Zeb Wells’ suggestion really aged like milk.
I got into reading Spider-Man through “spiderverse” I love how they have a big book that literally compiled the whole story of that event and that’s the thing with marvel comics you can just start reading by EVENTS like if you wanna read about civil war then go ahead it’s easily accessible, then if you wanna get into like stuff that’s being adapted into the MCU you can find those too idk I’m just happy I got into reading the marvel comics and the story are just so great and it’s leaving me hoping that the MCU would soon adapt to the big screen
Gonna send this to all my buddies who I’m trying to get into comics.
wow this was so fun! i remember when i was in high school & first started reading comics & definitely thought there was like a "right order" to read everything in --- but then I quickly found out no its like one long mega soap opera with no real proper way to start. I wish mcu movie tickets came with like a little list of good books or runs to start with because I feel like theres big mc fans who make lists for the best order to watch the movies in & it makes me wonder if comic newcomers would be looking for something similar (even though decades of issues and crossovers can't really be neatly organized)
I watched this video a while back but didn't think of it much until I was in my local comic store and found the spidey collection and because of this video I decided to pick it up and I don't regret it! I'm going to try to pick up Master plan some time soon as well as getting the amazing spiderman comics when they start coming in April!
Life Story is a favorite. I’d love to see more in the same vain.
The way I look at it, "Spidey" by Robbie Thompson most likely can't be canon since Peter didn't meet Harry or Gwen until after High School, to me that's too big of a change to ignore it, unlike say, the time period being updated, or a character wearing the wrong outfit during a flashback any silly stuff like that.
Speaking of reboots of the Lee/Dikto era, have you ever heard of the "Spider-Man: Chapter One" and "Marvel Age: Spider-Man" series that both remake the first 20ish issues? If you've ever read any of either, I wouldn't mind hearing your thougths, but you won't get a penny for them.
Just read Stan Lee's run. People know that he created Spider-Man, but most people haven't actually read his comics. The same goes for all his other comics. There are some other good stories, but it's better to just read those old ones. Also, those are the first ones, so you won't miss anything.
I recommend to anyone who wants to read any hero's comics to start with it's first run to understand that character better. Definitely start with stan lee/ditko run of amazing Spiderman so you could get the story they wanted to tell and understand what that character is really about
Loving the quality of this vid
Goated thanks.
"Obviously trying to read all 800+ issues of amazing back to back is gonna be tough"
**Me, sweating because i'm doing exactly that right now....+ spectacular, web of spider-man, peter parker and everything else that is canon within the 616 universe of spider-man**
I… holy shit…
Welp good luck
@@troyoboyo17 I forgot to mention
I'm also gonna read a ton of alternate Spideys so I'm 100% ready for the Spider-verse events (just because I'm THAT crazy)
I started doing the same thing back at the start of 2019.
I'm still not done 🙃
@@EnvyOmicron How many issues do you roughly read a day? i try to get at least 5-10 down
@@TokuNorth I usually try to read about 5 a day at least, but I have ended up taking a couple of lengthy hiatuses. The first was during the late 70s era, because a lot of stories from that time were either fucking weird, or just kinda forgettable, so my interest was slowly waning. The second hiatus was in the mid 90s, right after finishing the Clone saga, because that story dragged on for so long and got so stupid, that I was completely exhausted by the end of it.
This was awesome and really helpful! I would love to see more videos like this especially if you did one for the Fantastic Four. I really want to get into reading them but have no idea where to start.
6:30 I'VE YEARS FOR THAT!
THANK YOU. I watched your video yesterday and binge read “Life story” in two hours, what an awesome set of books.
Great video, man! I think this type of series is a really good idea and a really good way to help new readers jump into comics for the first time :)
Rob Jefferson’s Comics Explained is a great way to learn about comics. If you have gaps in your knowledge of continuity, he’s pretty damn comprehensive.
i really enjoyed all the spiderman content ive seen or read or whatever but ive never read any comics. i wanted to, but i never knew where to start! so thanks haha
I am really enjoying the Nick Spencer run not 100% sure when that came out but it’s very easy to follow.
I think you Finally summed up that 12-issue "Spidey" series for me, it's pretty much the NEW Canon origin story and early days, no? I know Earth-616 is CONSTANTLY shifting their timeline forward to stay relevant, so this is my best guess
It’s also good to jump on when a new story arc starts. I’m actually entertained by “beyond” is that weird?
thanks so much for making this video! i've been meaning to start reading the comics for quite a while but didn't know where to start bc there's so many so thanks for the direction :)
5:47 look at jonah's face in third picture bro lol 😂
I'd love to hear your Green Lantern and Black Canary recommendations
Edit: Green Arrow and Black Canary, I meant
2/10, all-star batman & robin isn't on this list.
Have you gotten the black suit in Fortnite yet?
@@troyoboyo17 you literally make video essays on comic book movies
My basic strategy when getting into a certain comic book character:
Start from their very first story and read them chronologically until you get the gist (sometimes that means until you read the origin, sometimes it’s reading through that infamous story arc everyone talks about, sometimes it’s when you get acquainted with the whole rogues gallery or at least the archenemy, it’s all just personal preference).
Then bounce around to the highly recommended stories (popular stories, stories recommended from people you know or fellow comic book buffs, etc.) and/or other stories that look interesting to you.
Probably the most straightforward and effective way of doing it that gives you a good glimpse into the character and their history and has shaped me into the confident, smelly comic book nerd that I am today :P
just picked up Spider-Man: Life Story today! I already was a massive Spidey fan but didn't read much besides the original Lee and Ditko books when I was younger. Thanks for the recommendations!
You mean they made comics based off of that MCU guy? Weird
I binge-read the Incredible Hulk comics, and the renumberings it went through. I had planned on doing the same with Spider-Man. The problem is, however, Spider-Man eventually got FOUR BOOKS that were being made simultaneously (during the 80's and 90's, I believe). That wouldn't be a problem, except the stories being told weren't contained individually within each books. They overlapped. The incredible Harry Osborn Green Goblin storyline ended in the Spectacular Spider-Man run. The Other storyline by JMS was told in various Spidey books, as opposed to being contained to a single title (preferably Amazing).
It's a challenge I'm willing to take on, but convenience is hardly a factor if you want to binge-read the main storylines online. Trade paper backs are an option (which does organize the stories as best as possible), but for a guy who doesn't have enough to spend, this is going to be a real hassle.
But I'm willing to pull through because I really want to get as much of the full experience of Spider-Man as I can.
Honestly, for a long time I had had several problems regarding which comics to read before or after regarding Spider-Man, but this video is so good, so nice and in a certain way funny that I will leave the disorderly order that I was following and I will follow these recommendations, many Thank you
Ayy I'm so glad there were a few here that I hadn't read cause I usually feel so lost for when to start reading Spidey comics, can't wait to jump into the science teacher run, love that shit
Spidey was my first Spider-Man book and I love it it’s like one of my favorite
I would recommend the superior spiderman for start ...yes I know it's hard to understand for maybe the first issue because of all that doc octopus stuff but if you know the characters you can understand it after the first issue and this is how I got to the spiderman comics
I'm showing my age here but I got into Spider-Man though the 1994 Fleer trading card line. They did such a great job explaining Spidey, establishing his friends and foes, along with recommending tons of great stories to pick-up. Don't even get me started on Mark Bagley's amazing artwork.
Just stumbled onto your channel and absolutely loved it and recommended it to my other super hero fan buddies who I’ve been encouraging to get into Spidey comics. Also love your pre-write series for Spider-Man 4 and your Clark pre-write! You deserve more views and subscribers and just letting you know I love your work.
From what they hinted at in the miles morales game, it seems like Peter might be teaching in Spider-Man 2 on ps5. I never knew about that story but I think that’ll be a really cool story considering Insomniac’s Spider-Man is a little older, and since he has Miles around he can probably somewhat handle a stable job.
I really like these types of videos because it helped me find a lot of comics I never had heard of that I now love. Please keep doing more or just recommending lists on Twitter!
Maybe this is a weird or unpopular pick but I really liked Dan Slott's take on Spider-Man for a while, Big Time, Superior Spider-Man and Spider-Island are great stories. But Ultimate Spider-Man has to be my favorite. It is the most consistent. But, if we are talking stand alones, Spider-Man: Lifestory is hands down one of the best Spider-Man comic books out there.
P.S. I love JMS but I can't look past The Other, Sins Past and One More Day. I've said it many times, they really just need to stop doing the clones and Morlun. Those are the worst parts of Spider-Man (minus the Gwen sleeping with Norman and getting pregnant bit, ew).
I’d recommend Spider-Man: Blue for a standalone story. It really is what the character represents for me
@@DuhDurr I've read it but chose not to mention it because well... Ahem. You know.
Slott’s run was kind of all over the place for me, I liked it up until Superior ended and it felt like he was just not into it anymore but stayed on for a super long time
@@nikcantsnipe yeah……
@@troyoboyo17 same. He lost me following Superior Spider-Man. The Parker Industries stuff was gross and without any direction. Big Time and Superior Spider-Man are my favorite stories from that arc. Like yes, I love Peter as a science teacher but him working in a lab and making money by reverse engineering his own Spidey tech has the same energy as teen Peter who tried to sell his web formula but more mature. I like watching Peter use his mind and as much as I like him teaching or even working as a photographer, I really wish he'd work in the sciences/engineering.
Thank you, i have been planning to start reading comics in the summer
6:08 that didn't age well
I'd love one of these videos for fantastic 4 or super man.
Really cool video, just read Amazing Spider-Man #30 and I really enjoyed it.
Ultimate Spider-Man may be my favorite comic series of all time, and I agree that Life Story was a really intriguing concept executed well.
Would love the best recommendations to fully get into daredevil comics.
Original amazing Spider-Man is peak Spider-Man for me. I'm on issue 80 and can't get enough of it
The only Spiderman comics ive read are the orginal run and about the first 20 issues because I believe my parents got me some sort of limited subscription. I really liked them but they're not very deep story telling. I'd really like a long running Spiderman comic kind of in the same vain as Invincible. Simply following a hero during the different points in life that he'll experience throughout his life. Teens, twenties, thirties, married life, being a parent, and then finally the ultimate climax as his most wizened and strongest point in his life culminating in an ending that could (possibly) leave the character cemented into legend as he is.
6:00 hold up! They brought the CRIME MASTER back?! God I loved his design in the original stuff! He was so cool with his gun and gas and rivalry with the Green Goblin!
Also just purchased 8 volumes of ultimate Spider-Man. Man, it’s Bendis’ dialogue that makes it honestly. Such a solid comic
3:48 dammit now I gotta go cry again
I picked up the Spidey series by Robbie Thompson & Nick Bradshaw in the form of a complete collection TPB titled Freshman Year and I have to say it’s a fantastic read. 🤘🤘🕷️🕸️
Ah yes…a recommendation of the Zebb Wells run……hooray😂
What do you think of "The Amazing Spider-Man" comic where spider-man beats the CRAP out of Kingpin when he assassinated Aunt May.
I need a video like this but to get me started on Dr Strange, I've tried tackling his books but they are kinda intimidating
Great video, Troy. I’m still excited on your Fanboy Rewrites.
Thanks! I have a big Prewrite video coming soon that I’m really excited about.
@@troyoboyo17 oh I hope it’s Spider-Man 3.
I would love to suggest Teen Titans recommendations. Maybe include the Geoff Johns era in there.
I would love some comic recommendations for Moon Knight, Bucky, and Hawkeye !
I was really intimidated at first when I wanted to get into the comics because I grew up with the movies and shows and I thought to myself"you know why don't I read the comics?" This is where my favorite superhero originated i might as well give them a try.
Thankfully there was a good stepping-stone for me and that was the marvel masterworks collections you can get. Everything from the Stan and Steve ditko Golden era to the works of Peter David and Jeff loeb. Now I'm avid fan/reader.
Spider-Man Blue was the first comic that actually made me cry so I’d suggest that one too
one criticism: the thing in the beginning about DC reboots, well their latest reboot made it so every comic ever is now Canon and happened. so DC is the same way as Marvel now, whether that a good thing or a bad thing.
i fucking loved the friendly neighborhood spider man comics
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I would like to see this become a new series for your channel. Maybe you could do future videos on how to get into reading other famous comic book characters.
I only got into Spider-Man comics recently with the release of Life Story's hard cover which I thoroughly enjoyed though I do agree that it was short with the 2010s in particular feeling rushed through that didn't stop it from being my personal favorite Spidey story I have every experienced which immediately got me reading more, grabbing stories that peek my interest(my general approach to comics) with me having already picked up Ultimate Spider-Man and Renew Your Vows
Life story is so good. I guess it’s really good for those who are getting into comics for first time. Part of the joy was seeing how they would interpret classic Spider-Man beats into the timeline
@@aryan7767 definitely agree, with the adaptation of Kraven's Last Hunt and honestly the entire symbiote saga being one of my favorite versions of the story with Peter's reliance on it being completely recontextualized due to his age
As a person who has only watched your Spider-man videos, damn sorry troyoboy17. I felt bad when you said it at 0:49. I'll try to give your other vids a shot :")
Great video. You are awesome Troy
Where to start is a great question but I think a kuch overlooked question is where to stop? Good stories end and if theres an arc that catches your fancy its cool to jump back in but sometimes i just wanna read some great stuff and put it back down and not get bogged down in Clone Sagas and Deals with the Devil. Where should you stop with any long and ongoing comic?
I actually started reading Spider-Man comic books which was the ultimate run when I was younger. I also read the classical run, but i have to say I find the nick Spencer one of my favorite runs. If no one has read it and hates modern Spider-Man 616 universe this comic run will change your mind.