They were totally gaslighting her! By saying things like when she liked living in the west “I’m sure you do but it isn’t home” and when she said their son used to spit in her jello “I’m sure he didn’t” just very condescending towards her…
I can see both sides. Yes they seemed condescending and they probably were. The first thing is most people assume you muss home so it’s just polite conversation. The second thing was glossing over it. Maybe they never saw him act that way; parents protect their kids. And it was their way to smooth over the convo. What would you say? “i know I wasn’t there to see if you did that, but shame on you!”? It was their subtle way of saying a) it was in the past b) Temple, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. They probably thought “he could have but we’ve seen how much he’s grown since then. Let’s not bring it up; let’s focus on how we can connect moving forward. Maybe there was a way the parents could’ve supported both of them and held both of them accountable. It’s just hard to do that when you’re thinking on your feet in polite conversation. Hard for NTs and neurodivergents too. I feel like I’m in both worlds because I’m def neurodivergent but through music I’ve learned so much more about social interaction: to recognize patterns and express myself through music first and then words.
@@mightykeefauver1080 actually it's true. It's those that don't understand or embrace the brilliant mind of a person with autism. Just bc her social skills are not on par with Nuero-Typicals. Doesn't mean she isn't the smartest person in the room. In fact Temple.is on a genius level unlike those other people. So please tell me how exactly she isn't the smartest person in that room?
Honestly if she was talking to me, I would have been fascinated. Even if it wasn't my field of study. Listening to someone talking passionately about their fav topic is always such a pleasant experience
The comment about their son was a social no no. They obviously don’t believe people should actually be held accountable for their actions by other people that werent there at the time. That concerned the dad a lot. The rest of it was just not impressive or interesting to them because it wasnt a popular magazine. And she probably wasnt concise enough or humble enough about her achievements as a woman in the 70s for their taste
Because they’re faking to be nice. They are not ’ tired of listening to details ’, Temple didn’t even started the conversation. People, mostly Neurotypicals, are really good at hearing without listening, and they look down on autistic people as if we were illiterate.
I could understand Temple's anger about people and parties. Growing up, I used to isolate myself away from bigger crowds at parties. Truth is, I'm autistic. I love going to gatherings!!
autistics need to be able to go to socisal stuff but enjoyt it in our own way and do it our way and not be forced to doit '' like the normals''... and allow us a way out if we had enough... just ass alot of normal folks will leave, get upset, panic, and so on when they have had too much of this or that
It makes me think about my mother telling me to my face "I am so glad that you and your sisters were not born autistic" it hurt to hear that. And it still does.
Kolin Zuver You guys are all stupid. You'll brazenly provoke dehumanising hostility against yourselves by identifying so willingly with an obviously dehumanising label.
That room, with all of the people, the lights, and the "Cocktail Effect" of all the voices, is a nightmare. Plus, the people cornering her and firing off question after questions, with suggestions, and no breathing room. I never knew why I felt that way until I got my Asperger's diagnosis. Whenever I go to a party, I will often know where the coat check room is located, so that I can hide and "re-charge" when needed. I don't try to talk at parties, because people will talk over me, and the point will be lost.
I love this Temple. Her lectures are amazing and I for one could listen to her talk all day long and soak up the beautiful unfiltered knowledge she has like rays of sunlight. God bless her heart ❤️
I watched this with my family when I was really young, and I can see it was sort of like my parents way to explain my own autism. I love this movie so much. It really inspires that anyone can truly do anything. I don’t know much to say but I love how they did this movie.
SepherStar I don't know much about cattle but I do know that the Dinka tribe of South Sudan love their cows to the point where they play a big role in their culture. And my uncle used to have about 600 cows on his dairy when he lived there, and I always looked forward to "visiting" them. I even watched the birth of a calf one or two times and I remember I covered my ears because the cow would scream so loud, lol
Claire Danes and Julia Ormond so much look alike. When I watched Claire Danes in little women years ago I thought she was like spitting image of Julia Ormond then.
I have autism and I can relate to this. I have anxiety with people. Things have gotten as an adult and I use my coping tools. Her mother reminds me of my mother, who is supportive of my autism with unconditional love.
you'd think as you get older you grow out of things or improve coping skills with age but as I get older i just get more and more like her in this scene....except instead of a squeeze machine i just want to stare at my phone or be totally alone....it sucks honestly. I have autism(obviously) and go to day program. i take the paratransit bus and sometimes they have to go out of their typical route to pick up others before dropping us off...i was sick of being on the bus so long with all those people i started to have a meltdown similar to this.....just wishing i was in the comfort of my own room instead of outside in the big ol' world....:/ i think this is one of the reasons why they invented noise canceling headphones....more like "can y'all please just f*** off" headphones are more like it! lol....
Well...I don't mind parties every once in awhile, especially when it involves a theme that I like, like Halloween or Tiki or Old-school, but I would not go to a bar dance every night... And I am an Aspie bigender one. I just hate when people walk behind me when I'm on the computer, it always makes me tense up a lot. And I hate when people grab my shoulders by surprise and tease me when I haven't drink my coffee, yet. And strangely enough, I can watch a horror movie because I can predict when the jumpscares will arrive (and make it a game), though I have to wear ear-plugs when I see one in the theater. But I kinda like the adrenaline rush I get with scary movies, in moderation.
I don't experience meltdowns or shutdowns so I don't really know what it's like, but my dad does experience shutdowns, he hates the smell and taste of burnt food and that's a trigger for him. I like parties cause I like to talk to people. But I'm angry that people don't like to listen when we go into detail, and I will never learn to make eye contact either, I hate that. It should go away.
omg i dont blame him. my thing is sound. i cant stand soft sounds, i like loud, harsh sounds. i also get triggered by soft gentle movements and touch, like irritating folds on my socks. i like strong hard touch like deep tissue massage. Literally seeing men gently stroke their beards makes me CRAZY and i have to get away.
1:30 I have those thoughts all the time. Also, I like her mom but I don’t like how she is defending the idiots at the party, why can’t she just agree 100% with Temple?
I think I might be autistic and I can't understand what Temple did "wrong" in this scene. Was it bringing negativity into the conversation when she mentioned the badly designed systems? I'd love to listen to Temple talk in depth about cattle at a party, even though I'm not interested in cattle. I love it when people are passionate about what they do. Isn't that what life's all about?
What she did was awkward, not "wrong." First off, the guy was a snob, so when she mentioned the name of her publication, it didn't sound prestigious in his eyes. Then when she mentioned good and bad "moos," it sounded childlike. Her unusual tone of voice and darting eyes combined with the subject matter was off-putting. The main problem is that she was talking to a snob.
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I understand. I think people must be sick of me spitting out facts, but I can't see myself chatting about things that don't matter. I can give you a complete his as to the cause of the Rwandan genocide, but I have no idea who the kardashians are, or what they do.
Same. I could tell you all about how Poland was treated by the Russians before WWI, but I can’t remember anything I learned in 11th grade Physical Science.
I know this is an old comment but autism, ADHD, etc. exist for a reason. Your child is important and made for something other than average. I’m parenting an ADHD child whom I now suspect may be on the autistic spectrum too and it’s so clear that these are not broken people….they are unique and insightful. Expecting them to be usual is what breaks them.
Did she really go in details about the cattle though? she spoke a few sentences, same as other people do, to give a little context. she just didn't have social graces, that's all
I want to watch it . I know that feeling when you know what something and you explain it and ppl look at you stupid . This scene angers me because that's how my life is sometimes. I know I'm different. But ppl act like they are alot smarter . It's annoying. I'm on the spectrum. I understand this scene
hi, im autistic, and i, along with the majority of autistic people, really dont like when people use terms like "different ability" or "special needs" for us. its fine to just call us autistic and/or disabled. those arent bad words. please dont feel the need to avoid them.
It funny when snooty people find i am a farmer they always start makeing stupid jokes. My response is you can disparage farmers all you want..just dont do it with your mouth full
They were totally gaslighting her! By saying things like when she liked living in the west “I’m sure you do but it isn’t home” and when she said their son used to spit in her jello “I’m sure he didn’t” just very condescending towards her…
I can see both sides. Yes they seemed condescending and they probably were. The first thing is most people assume you muss home so it’s just polite conversation.
The second thing was glossing over it. Maybe they never saw him act that way; parents protect their kids. And it was their way to smooth over the convo. What would you say? “i know I wasn’t there to see if you did that, but shame on you!”? It was their subtle way of saying a) it was in the past b) Temple, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. They probably thought “he could have but we’ve seen how much he’s grown since then. Let’s not bring it up; let’s focus on how we can connect moving forward.
Maybe there was a way the parents could’ve supported both of them and held both of them accountable. It’s just hard to do that when you’re thinking on your feet in polite conversation. Hard for NTs and neurodivergents too. I feel like I’m in both worlds because I’m def neurodivergent but through music I’ve learned so much more about social interaction: to recognize patterns and express myself through music first and then words.
Scott's parents talk to her like she's an idiot. She's the most intelligent person in the room.
New Legend Pictures in scientific sense, yes.
But she has no social grace, so in this situation it's not a true statement.
Yeah that’s true
@@mightykeefauver1080 Pesky social grace, without which neurotypicals (in general) won't listen to you.
She’s very smart
@@mightykeefauver1080 actually it's true. It's those that don't understand or embrace the brilliant mind of a person with autism.
Just bc her social skills are not on par with Nuero-Typicals. Doesn't mean she isn't the smartest person in the room. In fact Temple.is on a genius level unlike those other people.
So please tell me how exactly she isn't the smartest person in that room?
Honestly if she was talking to me, I would have been fascinated. Even if it wasn't my field of study. Listening to someone talking passionately about their fav topic is always such a pleasant experience
Why were they weirded out with what she was saying??? She was literally explaining what she wanted to do.
Cause they’re unsympathetic jerks!
because there are a lot of judgmental, dismissive assholes in the world.
Actually, they got tired of listening to those details about cattle according to Temple Grandin’s mother.
The comment about their son was a social no no. They obviously don’t believe people should actually be held accountable for their actions by other people that werent there at the time. That concerned the dad a lot.
The rest of it was just not impressive or interesting to them because it wasnt a popular magazine. And she probably wasnt concise enough or humble enough about her achievements as a woman in the 70s for their taste
Because they’re faking to be nice.
They are not ’ tired of listening to details ’, Temple didn’t even started the conversation.
People, mostly Neurotypicals, are really good at hearing without listening, and they look down on autistic people as if we were illiterate.
0:40 He did spit in her jello. Bullying is one of the most pervasive shared experiences among autistic people.
What I love about this movie is that it's so raw and so real and so true about what it is like to have autism!
I could understand Temple's anger about people and parties. Growing up, I used to isolate myself away from bigger crowds at parties. Truth is, I'm autistic. I love going to gatherings!!
+HarryPotter87 I agree
autistics need to be able to go to socisal stuff but enjoyt it in our own way and do it our way and not be forced to doit '' like the normals''... and allow us a way out if we had enough... just ass alot of normal folks will leave, get upset, panic, and so on when they have had too much of this or that
It makes me think about my mother telling me to my face "I am so glad that you and your sisters were not born autistic" it hurt to hear that. And it still does.
Kolin Zuver You guys are all stupid. You'll brazenly provoke dehumanising hostility against yourselves by identifying so willingly with an obviously dehumanising label.
That room, with all of the people, the lights, and the "Cocktail Effect" of all the voices, is a nightmare. Plus, the people cornering her and firing off question after questions, with suggestions, and no breathing room.
I never knew why I felt that way until I got my Asperger's diagnosis.
Whenever I go to a party, I will often know where the coat check room is located, so that I can hide and "re-charge" when needed.
I don't try to talk at parties, because people will talk over me, and the point will be lost.
I love this Temple. Her lectures are amazing and I for one could listen to her talk all day long and soak up the beautiful unfiltered knowledge she has like rays of sunlight. God bless her heart ❤️
Those people were very condescending towards her. I'm sorry she had to deal with that.
The scene with the mom is absolutely stunning. 1000 points for the writer and each of the actresses. Absolutely beautifully crafted. Well done.
I love Temple! She is a person to look up to! I am an autistic guy!
And I an aspie one.
I watched this with my family when I was really young, and I can see it was sort of like my parents way to explain my own autism. I love this movie so much. It really inspires that anyone can truly do anything.
I don’t know much to say but I love how they did this movie.
The actress who plays Mrs. Grandin is gorgeous!
Grandin's an extraordinary woman. She spends a great deal of time working to benefit animals.
I want to hear all of those details about cattle. In fact, I think I'll go watch a cattle video right now. Cheers:-)
SepherStar 😂🙂
SepherStar I don't know much about cattle but I do know that the Dinka tribe of South Sudan love their cows to the point where they play a big role in their culture. And my uncle used to have about 600 cows on his dairy when he lived there, and I always looked forward to "visiting" them. I even watched the birth of a calf one or two times and I remember I covered my ears because the cow would scream so loud, lol
She’s very smart about animals. I feel happy for her knowledge with animals. I don’t like crowds and parties either because of my autism.
Claire Danes and Julia Ormond so much look alike. When I watched Claire Danes in little women years ago I thought she was like spitting image of Julia Ormond then.
I can totally relate to her feeling in
Crowds of people.
- I will never learn how to do that.
Man, that hit hard.
it might have helped to teach her how to do a very specific thing, very specific movement and just follow it when she wants to express love.
When your mom is a therapist and you struggled with masking.
I have autism and I can relate to this. I have anxiety with people. Things have gotten as an adult and I use my coping tools. Her mother reminds me of my mother, who is supportive of my autism with unconditional love.
I have autism
@@Blancanieves1996 silver bells from home alone
I can empathize with her. I am not autistic BUT I have some degree of social anxiety which sometimes interferes with me being with too many strangers
Can relate on every level.
This movie and this scene particularly, helped my husband to understand how I was different from him.
I'm so glad. It helped me and a lot of others like us.
you'd think as you get older you grow out of things or improve coping skills with age but as I get older i just get more and more like her in this scene....except instead of a squeeze machine i just want to stare at my phone or be totally alone....it sucks honestly. I have autism(obviously) and go to day program. i take the paratransit bus and sometimes they have to go out of their typical route to pick up others before dropping us off...i was sick of being on the bus so long with all those people i started to have a meltdown similar to this.....just wishing i was in the comfort of my own room instead of outside in the big ol' world....:/ i think this is one of the reasons why they invented noise canceling headphones....more like "can y'all please just f*** off" headphones are more like it! lol....
It's gotten worse for me since hitting menopause.
Well...I don't mind parties every once in awhile, especially when it involves a theme that I like, like Halloween or Tiki or Old-school, but I would not go to a bar dance every night... And I am an Aspie bigender one. I just hate when people walk behind me when I'm on the computer, it always makes me tense up a lot. And I hate when people grab my shoulders by surprise and tease me when I haven't drink my coffee, yet. And strangely enough, I can watch a horror movie because I can predict when the jumpscares will arrive (and make it a game), though I have to wear ear-plugs when I see one in the theater. But I kinda like the adrenaline rush I get with scary movies, in moderation.
I don't experience meltdowns or shutdowns so I don't really know what it's like, but my dad does experience shutdowns, he hates the smell and taste of burnt food and that's a trigger for him. I like parties cause I like to talk to people. But I'm angry that people don't like to listen when we go into detail, and I will never learn to make eye contact either, I hate that. It should go away.
omg i dont blame him. my thing is sound. i cant stand soft sounds, i like loud, harsh sounds. i also get triggered by soft gentle movements and touch, like irritating folds on my socks. i like strong hard touch like deep tissue massage. Literally seeing men gently stroke their beards makes me CRAZY and i have to get away.
Why am I not surprised there would be judgement rich people in Bronxville, NY. I know that area very well lol.
So do I. It's just north of me. And years ago, they didn't allow Jews to buy homes. Don't panic; it's not so anymore.
This movie is so underrated.
I love her so much. I wish I was like her. People on the spectrum are more evolved. Stay awesome ✌
1:30 I have those thoughts all the time. Also, I like her mom but I don’t like how she is defending the idiots at the party, why can’t she just agree 100% with Temple?
I think I might be autistic and I can't understand what Temple did "wrong" in this scene. Was it bringing negativity into the conversation when she mentioned the badly designed systems? I'd love to listen to Temple talk in depth about cattle at a party, even though I'm not interested in cattle. I love it when people are passionate about what they do. Isn't that what life's all about?
What she did was awkward, not "wrong." First off, the guy was a snob, so when she mentioned the name of her publication, it didn't sound prestigious in his eyes. Then when she mentioned good and bad "moos," it sounded childlike. Her unusual tone of voice and darting eyes combined with the subject matter was off-putting. The main problem is that she was talking to a snob.
01:52 I tear up everytime
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Roman Soiko albeism is being albino
Emma Britton "Ableism", he said, which means "discrimination based on ability/disability".
yes I was oppositionaly ocd odd bipolar dperssed to heal from all that abuse takes a long more then tim hortons free beer and free pizza @@TheRojo387
@@Bozewani Long time, no see, Roman!
I understand. I think people must be sick of me spitting out facts, but I can't see myself chatting about things that don't matter. I can give you a complete his as to the cause of the Rwandan genocide, but I have no idea who the kardashians are, or what they do.
Brenda Comeaux 😂 Same
I would much rather discuss the causes of the Rwandan genocide than the Kardashians.
Everything i know about the Kardashians i learned against my will 🙄
Same. I could tell you all about how Poland was treated by the Russians before WWI, but I can’t remember anything I learned in 11th grade Physical Science.
i want to hear more about cattle than the casual conversation.
You need to relabel this title. She’s not having a meltdown at all. Parties and shouting can be sensory overloads for people with autism.
This movie gives me strength to go ahead with my autistic child. Hope god has kept something special for him aswell.
I know this is an old comment but autism, ADHD, etc. exist for a reason. Your child is important and made for something other than average. I’m parenting an ADHD child whom I now suspect may be on the autistic spectrum too and it’s so clear that these are not broken people….they are unique and insightful. Expecting them to be usual is what breaks them.
Did she really go in details about the cattle though? she spoke a few sentences, same as other people do, to give a little context. she just didn't have social graces, that's all
thank you for the video. there are important thoughts in the film.
My all time favourite movie ever.
The woman that plays her mother in this movie is absolutely terrific
This is how I feel when I go to weddings and Bar/Bat Mitzvahs. These events are just not my taste of interest.
I can relate so much!
I have autism and cPTSD and always get invalidated so I know
Sia could never🙄
I actually want to hear about those cattle now...
I do have high-functional autism
I want to watch it . I know that feeling when you know what something and you explain it and ppl look at you stupid . This scene angers me because that's how my life is sometimes. I know I'm different. But ppl act like they are alot smarter . It's annoying. I'm on the spectrum. I understand this scene
She didn’t have meltdown for dessert. She got upset because people didn’t care about what she was talking about.
In the name of lion king we should get cattle systemized
They refused to admit their son was a bully, that's say a lot about them.
3:00 best ending to a video ever
I don’t see autism as a disability. I see it as a different ability.
hi, im autistic, and i, along with the majority of autistic people, really dont like when people use terms like "different ability" or "special needs" for us. its fine to just call us autistic and/or disabled. those arent bad words. please dont feel the need to avoid them.
@@broistypinghi I’m autistic. I hate when we tell other people what words to say. Let them say what they want. Not everyone needs to be corrected.
I am interesting in a temple grandin conversation theme
You like 👍 the west I like 👍 the east side location Florida
I will be 60 12,,02 and I believe I suffer this I've always had these same triggers tics all of it it's very s ary
She's a woman with autism like me😊
It funny when snooty people find i am a farmer they always start makeing stupid jokes. My response is you can disparage farmers all you want..just dont do it with your mouth full
That part was almost great, though it was ruined when temple says "I will never learn how to do that". It just doesn't match with the scene...
It does because she's saying she doesn't know how to communicate with her eyes how she shows love.
Movie name? :) I work with autistics as a TA in an autistic school and this looks interesting, I love Temple!
Temple Grandin is the name of the movie.
Brenda Comeaux Okay thank you! :)
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Temple yo se como te sientes
esta noche voy a verla
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Imagine if it were male. We would the difference be?