White Moth Dry Fly - Fly Tying Appalachian/Great Smoky Mountain Trout Patterns
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- This 75 year old pattern from western North Carolina is an easy-to-tie fly that is a great option for those late evenings when the sun is starting to set. This high-floater, highly visible fly is perfect for those of us who may have trouble seeing the tiny darker colored flies!
Hook: #12-18 dry fly
Thread: White
Tail: White hackle fibers
Rib: Copper wire, small
Body: Mink underfur (substitute rabbit or synthetic)
Wings: White hackle tips
Hackle: White dry fly
** Great Smoky Mountain Fly Tying Books used in this series **
Hatches and Fly Patterns of the Great Smoky Mountains, by Don Kirk, amzn.to/2HLZuVT
Great Smoky Mountains National Park Angler's Companion, by Ian Rutter, amzn.to/2HQwDQr
Southeastern Flies, by L.J. DeCuir, amzn.to/3l0McTG
Nice Fly, I like how you give us options if we do not have certain materials to create these flies.
Thanks KEEP it Tying
You got it Pablo. I just got off the river today, and will say that substituting a synthetic for the body on this is not a bad idea. The mink did not float as well as I thought it would. It looked good, and I got one fish with it, but it either needs a lighter body, or more hackle to really keep it floating.
If any of your viewers fish the West Branch of the Penobscot in Maine, this fly would work extremely well in the upper part of the river near sunset.
I’ve never used mink underfur before, just the guard hairs for tailing. It makes a really good looking body when used as dubbing. Gotta love hi-vis flies.
Thanks for posting.
I actually used two flies that had mink in them yesterday. This one, and one called a Fluttering Caddis. The latter uses mink tail fibers for the wing. It wasn't a great day on the river, but I was overall pleased with how these flies fished. I'm sure some folks watching this are familiar with the Penobscot, so thanks for the comment!
Nice fly. I thought the monochromatic look would be boring, but it's quite classy looking. Hope the fish think so, too!
Thanks Debora! And I agree, it's not quite as boring as it sounds. There's another fly called a Scarlet Ibis that is very similar, but all red. Maybe I'll try that one soon. too. :-)
Very cool seeing the community coming together with that mink gift!!
Yeah, it is pretty cool. And Michael from West Virginia sent me a patch of bear and some horsehair that I just got tonight. And I'm going to be practicing dying some materials soon so I should be able to offer that up to some folks too. Yeah, this is pretty fun.
This is the most underrated fishing flies in Ireland, great for night fishing and nobody uses it much. Sea trout, which are brown trout that go out to sea feeding because the river they are resident hasn't enough feed. Especially peaty rivers or spate river's. As for limestone river's there's so much feeding that the brown trout doesn't need to migrate out to sea. After it rains during the summer and the water levels rise, we get a lot of rain in Ireland. The seatrout enter the river's and at dusk till dark the white moth is a cracking wet fly.... just subscribed 👍
Outstanding comment my friend! I would absolutely LOVE to get out there and try my had at some of these sea run brown trout. Ireland, Scotland... the whole UK, plus some of the Nordic countries are all on my bucket list. I've just got to retire from my day job here first. Thanks again for the comment and welcome to the channel!
@@SavageFlies we've a lot of pristine waters, and there's no angling pressure either. The more off the beaten track the better. Similar to yourself I'll visit North America some time and travel north of New York, at the moment work dictates my plans too.
Very beautiful fly. When you speak of using this at sunset, my mind gives me such a clear image. That I can see certain sections of the river. Your teaching talent is remarkable. This is a classy looking fly. Great job of tying. Great video. Thank you Sir.
Sir Matt, I love this fly and yes I'm one of the older guys that will need help seeing lol. That mink patch is special I'm going to have to look for some. Thanks for sharing this awesome fly Sir.
You bet Edward. I think you're going to really like tomorrow's pattern. :-)
@@SavageFlies can't wait Sir I'm very excited
Nice looking fly. I too am an oldie that needs the reading glasses. I use a 6 diopter when tying 12s and under.
I wear my cheaters for tying everything! But when I'm on the river, I have to pull them out of my vest when trying to put tippet through anything smaller than a 16. :-)
Looks so white but good! Very clean pattern. Good job and thanks for showing us this video. Yeah it's great for nighttime fishing!!
Thanks Otto! You know, sometimes when I say your name in my head, I think of the bus driver on the Simpsons. Otto the Otto Man. It always makes me laugh. :-)
@@SavageFlies lol yup... I've heard that many times!!
This one is a good fly for my lake.
I'll have to tie up a few of these for the spring drake hatch !!
Thank for watching Bruce, and oh yeah... I think these will be great flies in the spring to early summer!
As always, thanks for posting! BZ
Thank you chief! Always appreciate you watching my friend.
A winner. I use white caddis and they are a treat.
Yep, I think this fly is more likely to fool a fish thinking it's a caddis or some mayfly. A real moth has much fatter wings. Thanks for watching Terry!
Nice I really liked this tie thanks for sharing
Thanks Tom; appreciate you watching!
I truly enjoy watching your videos and still learning even after tying for years. Thanks.
That a beautiful fly great pattern.sure gunna give it a try.thanks for sharing!!.
Thanks Mike! Always appreciate you watching my friend. :-)
Now I’m going to have to order some white hackle
Ha! Believe it or not, I've been looking for some white hackle for months and everywhere I shop has been out of stock. I finally found some at the Fly Shack recently.
@@SavageFlies yea I can t find anything but on Amazon…and it looks iffy. Grizzly ca. work for now, just imitate a striped moth or something.
Almost at a thousand 👊 heck yeah!!
Thanks brother! We're getting there. 😁
One of my favorites, in a size 20
Great video Matt
Thanks Dave. Appreciate it my friend!
Beautiful fly matt!! Will surely be trying this one
Thank you my friend! I'm about to upload Edward's pheasant pattern for Saturday's video. He did a pretty good job on it!
I just tied a white funnel moth on my you tube channel. I tie mine more realistic and more like a fan wing
Thanks Colin. I like your version with the antennae. I think it does look pretty realistic.
This is a Great looking dry fly. I’m going to tie some up with as close to white as I can…probably lite natural in color. Thank you Sir Matt. btw…where can I send a picture of one of my creations. Any input on it will be greatly appreciated.
great pattern but I always wait to stand the wings up till I have tied the tail and bring the body back up so they are not in the way
That's an excellent tip Richard; thanks! On the first one I did I actually forgot to tie in the wings altogether until after the body and then had to tie them in tips facing back. Making it harder to post them upright, and overall a pretty ugly fly. :-)
Matt, any thought to doing a video of a cicada? Maybe like Jay Shepard's?
Alan, yes! It's in the plans. Jay emailed and noted that his pattern was in our last TU newsletter so I'm definitely going to practice that this winter and make a video for it. Well before the spring. Do you know when they'll be active? Is it roughly May, or does it vary somewhat each time?
@@SavageFlies IT probably varies a bit but basically the month of June. PPTU is reserving a large camping space for the first week of June in western MD that will give easy access to both the Savage and the North Branch. Jay seemed to thing that would be optimal.
Outstanding! I'd really love to make that trip. I do have a farm out in Cumberland so I get to the Savage every month or so but it would be fun to go with a big group from our chapter. :-)
Gosh, this a really good fly. I have old man vision issues. Thank you. Good video, love this series of flies. Note: I tie more flies in the no.12 size than any other size. Curious I found this page on GSM trout flies. Is it okay to share in this comment? www.flyfishingsmokymountains.com/hatch.html
If not let me know and I will refrain.
Thanks for the video: I ordered a pair of clip-on flip down 2.5 diopter magnification so I can tie easier.
James- absolutely! Share anything you'd like on here that might help other tiers. And that's a great link so I appreciate it. And BTW, I tie a lot of size 12s because they are easier to show on camera, but I probably fish more 14-16s, particularly in dry flies around here. And funny you mention the clip-on magnifying glasses. I keep about six pairs of them! I keep them with all my fly tying gear, in a couple of fishing vests, and an extra emergency pair in my truck. If I ever forgot them when fishing, I'd probably be fishing big streamers that day. :-)
James. I found magnifying glasses gave me problems when I looked away from the fly to pick up material or a tool at the side of my tying table. Another tyer at my club had a Giraffe magnifier & suggested I check it out. It mounts on your your table not your head, so there is no problem with changing focus when you look up or to the side. I got mine a long time ago but think they are still being made. Since it’s mounted, you can’t lose it like I lose my glasses.
@@FlyTyer1948 -I hear you. I use magnifying glasses that clip on my regular glasses. I end up looking over the top of them when I need to see something not magnified. I'll have to check out the Giraffe magnifier too.
That’s a decent tie. However, have you ever wondered is a Moth pattern shouldn’t have lay back wings???
You know, I really have. You'd think a moth pattern might have splayed out wings like a spinner, or even a down wing like some caddis flies. So would this fly really look like a moth? I don't know; I kind of doubt it. But I guess it's possible.
Very cool moth Matt!
Is mink one of the more expensive materials to come by?
Thanks Sarge! Mink isn't typically too expensive (maybe slightly more than rabbit), but it's just not carried by as many suppliers. I guess far more patterns call for good ole bunnies. :-)
You don't see a lot of flies that are just bugs anymore, everything seems like it has to be from a hatch or some such.
You know, I think you're right. Just a plain old moth that looks about like any white bug!
Thanks Matt for another cool fly. This one I have all the materials to tie. Thanks for the shoutout. We live in Illinois but we’re in Oklahoma visiting friends. My email is my name at gmail if anyone has questions.
Got it; thanks Lee! This mink really is awesome, and I appreciate you offering to help others out as well. :-)