Crafting the Ultimate Mongolian Recurve Bow

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  • @htme
    @htme  3 роки тому +74

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    • @PretzelPig
      @PretzelPig 3 роки тому +1

      ok

    • @niko1even
      @niko1even 3 роки тому +9

      Raid Meme Legends

    • @jammehrmann1871
      @jammehrmann1871 3 роки тому +12

      No and plz just go and test ya viking axe on all of plarium showing them what a raid really means!!!

    • @PretzelPig
      @PretzelPig 3 роки тому +2

      @@niko1even true

    • @Olive_Bradford
      @Olive_Bradford 3 роки тому

      Hi

  • @spodefollower
    @spodefollower 3 роки тому +783

    These videos make me realize how important it was to have artisans and craftspeople dedicate their lives to making specific things, and how "masters" were so respected and why they were patronized

    • @spodefollower
      @spodefollower 3 роки тому +15

      @Phoney Duck it can also mean “be a patron of” like a nobleman could patronize an artist to make a work of art

    • @DH-xw6jp
      @DH-xw6jp 3 роки тому +17

      @Phoney Duck it didnt use to.
      It use to mean you supported/vouched for someone.
      Heck, it still does.

    • @RensStoryteller
      @RensStoryteller 3 роки тому

      Amen to that.

    • @arisenspirit
      @arisenspirit 3 роки тому +10

      @abis9 alpha9 honestly just watching how poorly they made the silk string was pretty painful to watch

    • @superknightlol
      @superknightlol 3 роки тому +16

      @abis9 alpha9 if they learn to make it properly, it probably take years to master and thats the only video that will be on this channel.
      he just need to unlock the item.

  • @esalehtismaki
    @esalehtismaki 3 роки тому +374

    Gluing is a skill. You need well prepared surfaces that fit together perfectly. Then apply only a thin layer of glue. Pouring massive amounts of glue does not make the joint stronger, it makes the glue break. Hide glue is strong when used properly.

    • @kayagorzan
      @kayagorzan 3 роки тому +5

      Indeed

    • @KenrickLeiba
      @KenrickLeiba 3 роки тому +29

      @@kayagorzan There was a show where the presenter that does the UK version of Grand Designs built his own shack from scratch. He used hide glue ( that he made himself from rabbits) and he could actually hold his entire weight using it. So yeah, its pretty bloody strong.

    • @GastropodGaming2006
      @GastropodGaming2006 2 роки тому

      so glad my dad taught me this skill

    • @noahbasara8529
      @noahbasara8529 Рік тому +1

      Learned something new

  • @RazorSkinned86
    @RazorSkinned86 3 роки тому +527

    I'm gonna really enjoy it when this show finally reaches the digital age and ya'll have to learn lithography for fabrication of basic silicon wafers.

    • @alexkim3794
      @alexkim3794 3 роки тому +46

      Imagine him learning to make quantum computers and nuclear reactors

    • @Yo_Soy_Pirok
      @Yo_Soy_Pirok 3 роки тому +26

      @@alexkim3794 *"Japan will remember that"*

    • @gavinli1368
      @gavinli1368 3 роки тому +23

      I can't wait for Dr. Stone to get to the digital era. That'll be a trip.

    • @LiveFreeOrDieDH
      @LiveFreeOrDieDH 3 роки тому +23

      I believe the ultimate goal in this series is to make a steam engine and advance into the industrial revolution. Maybe when he gets there he'll decide to keep pushing forward, but I'm guessing if he does that, it will be with slightly different parameters for future projects.

    • @alexkim3794
      @alexkim3794 3 роки тому +6

      @@LiveFreeOrDieDH but dude I mean imagine him cracking the code for nuclear fusion. That would be insane

  • @beniaminbzowski8798
    @beniaminbzowski8798 3 роки тому +888

    Now all you need is some horses and throat singing and you can conquer like half the world.

    • @jennyfu1081
      @jennyfu1081 3 роки тому +9

      Actually we have guns now

    • @juanchavez6322
      @juanchavez6322 3 роки тому +50

      @@jennyfu1081 r/woosh

    • @alba2162
      @alba2162 3 роки тому +45

      @@jennyfu1081guns are dumb, the bows will take over the world

    • @MulbahKollie1114
      @MulbahKollie1114 3 роки тому +3

      Boy u crackin me up

    • @letsrank9349
      @letsrank9349 3 роки тому +15

      @@alba2162 you won't be saying that when Andy makes a gun.

  • @johnh290
    @johnh290 3 роки тому +175

    You get black smiths to reach you about crafting metal why not get a bowyer to teach you how to make a bow properly

    • @ThePhillyDz
      @ThePhillyDz 3 роки тому +16

      Right? Kramer Ammons would have been a good pick, one of my favorite bowyers on YT

    • @simonphoenix3789
      @simonphoenix3789 3 роки тому +21

      making a selfbow is a skill someone can teach you in a day. But making a composite hornbow... that is not something you can pick up quickly. But still, at least the bow might not have been such a disaster.

    • @elee9056
      @elee9056 3 роки тому +2

      @@ThePhillyDz def not for composite bows.

  • @rinsanchez9943
    @rinsanchez9943 3 роки тому +465

    This guy takes the phrase "made from scratch" to a whole new level

    • @MORNINGSTAR827
      @MORNINGSTAR827 3 роки тому +6

      more like made from nothing but nature

    • @emrefifty5281
      @emrefifty5281 3 роки тому +2

      TATAKAE TATAKAE

    • @LIONGOD
      @LIONGOD 3 роки тому +8

      You must be new or something... a similar but more literal channel is primitive technology

    • @G4CE007
      @G4CE007 3 роки тому +4

      @@LIONGOD is better primitive technology than htme this guy is a poser...

    • @Intrigarium
      @Intrigarium 3 роки тому +2

      Right now he is making but scrap from scrach

  • @ZedaZ80
    @ZedaZ80 3 роки тому +164

    That frickin deadpan "I don't think anyone else is talking about this" was top-notch, +1

    • @squirreltastic-k5v
      @squirreltastic-k5v 3 роки тому +2

      Who's talking about it? Not me

    • @rzhavyy90
      @rzhavyy90 3 роки тому +1

      @@squirreltastic-k5v I'm talking about it

    • @squirreltastic-k5v
      @squirreltastic-k5v 3 роки тому +1

      @@rzhavyy90 i guess i am too. Whoops

    • @nicholasellis7429
      @nicholasellis7429 3 роки тому +2

      He got me thinking it was a new game that i might actually ger

  • @jasepoag8930
    @jasepoag8930 3 роки тому +426

    "Lauren is making the arrows..." I can't wait to see the googley eye arrows.

    • @andyt3233
      @andyt3233 3 роки тому +19

      She the best thing to happen to the channel

    • @kbee225
      @kbee225 3 роки тому +11

      @@andyt3233 simp.

    • @VespertilioGiganticus
      @VespertilioGiganticus 3 роки тому +10

      @@andyt3233 Thou art but a simp.

    • @UnknowinglyDerpy
      @UnknowinglyDerpy 3 роки тому +11

      "Oh no I've been shot, The googly eyes kinda make me feel better, but still I've been shot. Ouch!"

    • @pepre7594
      @pepre7594 3 роки тому +13

      @@VespertilioGiganticus please will people just shut up with the whole simp thing and let people compliment people

  • @KJ-kw7gh
    @KJ-kw7gh 3 роки тому +207

    I love his projects. But I wish sometimes he would slow down and work on his craftsmanship and make a better looking finished product. Tighter fitting joints and more finish work.

    • @sirforgotten5443
      @sirforgotten5443 3 роки тому +23

      Agreed, I love the idea of this series but it feels like they try to reach the bare minimum to be called a success and move on. It would be great if the took a bit of time to refine what they have.

    • @steveneumeyer681
      @steveneumeyer681 3 роки тому +8

      indeed. however the viewership demands a video is finished before they reach retirement age

    • @mohawksniper79
      @mohawksniper79 3 роки тому +4

      Very true I'm mohawk and when I made my bow with maple sinew hide glue it took a while and when I was done it was a part of me after 25 years I still have it.

    • @HipposHateWater
      @HipposHateWater 3 роки тому +2

      @@mohawksniper79 Agreed. Haven't finished my bows yet, but I spent over 10 hours making my primary sling, and after a decade of frequent use, it still only looks a month old.
      (Normally they last a couple months of heavy use before sections become unsafe from abrasion.)

    • @johannlangner289
      @johannlangner289 11 днів тому

      ​@@sirforgotten5443 I didn't want to be rude, but I wanna to say the same thing. It hurts to see how rough and careless they work. Best looking thing was that one arrowhead. Video can be speed up at some sections to accomplish a shorter video.

  • @duaine24
    @duaine24 3 роки тому +123

    Can’t wait until he makes a musket

    • @octavianm3166
      @octavianm3166 3 роки тому +16

      oh lord, he would have to start with an arquebus. The material requirements alone for the production of black powder and slow burning match cord and getting the right grain size without it becoming dangerous would be a challenge enough, and making a proper firelock would take so much more. Hey, if he does it then ill be quite impressed. And to make a proper steel barrel for the firearm without it being a pipe bomb would be challenge enough hahaha

    • @TannerSwizel
      @TannerSwizel 3 роки тому +23

      He's said before that the climax of this series will be making a steam engine. A musket is much simpler than a steam engine so it's very possible he could do something like this. He may choose not to, though, cause youtube hates guns.

    • @veteranironoutdoors8320
      @veteranironoutdoors8320 3 роки тому +4

      I can help with this

    • @duaine24
      @duaine24 3 роки тому +2

      @@octavianm3166 maybe he could make the gunpowder it’s own video

    • @duaine24
      @duaine24 3 роки тому

      @@veteranironoutdoors8320 really? What can you help with?

  • @jono3952
    @jono3952 3 роки тому +417

    You'd think after several years of doing this he'd learn that wood joinery needs a tight fit.

    • @BoarhideGaming
      @BoarhideGaming 3 роки тому +186

      Yeah. I love the concept and the passion of this channel, but damn do they never go all the way with almost anything. Arrows aren’t straight, axe handles are crooked and knotty, cordage wraps are always messy and too thick, pitch and hide glue spills everywhere.
      Almost all the small little details are basically “eh, close enough”, but a lot of “eh, close enough” in a project makes the result “really not close enough”. And they’re always so close too.
      I understand that, of course, they’re short on time and budget, but still. Just grab some straight branches from the start.

    • @RmRoyalflush
      @RmRoyalflush 3 роки тому +85

      Yeah that's a huge minus point for them, they never try to make it good, never learn from their mistakes. Just a proof of concept that's it.

    • @tomf3150
      @tomf3150 3 роки тому +41

      And sharp tools :/

    • @That_Guy42
      @That_Guy42 3 роки тому +12

      @@RmRoyalflush they have improved a bit here and there.

    • @SorrensSorrow
      @SorrensSorrow 3 роки тому +42

      @@BoarhideGaming yep kinda feeling like we are watching the village idiot try and follow along. Lol he is soooooo messy and accuracy is just a suggestion.

  • @goldenscales
    @goldenscales 2 роки тому +5

    The Mongolian Horse Bows on average took 2 years or more to dry and cure properly. Your attempts to reproduce a Mongolian horn bow were actually pretty good, given time and product constraints! Well done, Grasshopper! Lol.

  • @Malcoladdin
    @Malcoladdin 3 роки тому +27

    I don't know about bows, but that horn could have been made quite a lot flatter by boiling it for longer. In many parts of Europe in the Middle Ages, horn was made into windows using this technique

    • @brandonbackes930
      @brandonbackes930 3 роки тому +6

      I think the pot for boiling was to small. Using a longer narrower container would have helped.

    • @benmayne6159
      @benmayne6159 Рік тому

      I think you mean boiling oil or near boiling oil as horn requires double the temperature of boiling water to be softened enough to work/moled easily. It can be baked to the required temperature as well.

  • @Enkaptaton
    @Enkaptaton Рік тому +2

    The weak spot in the elm selfbow makes me cry

  • @lordneador3724
    @lordneador3724 3 роки тому +75

    After reading some of the comments here, i feel compelled to write my own and give a little objective feedback.
    First of all, I am massively thankful for the great work you guys are putting into this channel. It shows how much time, dedication and also money flows into your projects. I really like that you are no skilled expert at what you do, but we can all see and feel the progression, both material and technology as well as skill wise. I do however also think, that most of your projects are somewhat underwhelming, mostly because you cant go or dont go the last mile with it. I know quite well that thats just not always possible, due to time, knowledge, money or other reasons and I fully respect that. Still I´d point out the wish: Try to refine your finishing touches, try to achieve a cleaner outcome to make the porject as a whole "more complete". Some things I think would be very helpful for you: sharp tools and sharpening (maybe even a video?) and essential woodworking.
    Again: I massively enjoy your content as it is, and dont want to judge you or your team.
    Greetings from germany

    • @ocadioan
      @ocadioan 3 роки тому +10

      I think they do it like this because going the last mile is actually quite a lot more time and knowledge intensive than the initial proof of concept. For instance, the bow in this video would probably have been rejected very early on by someone that knew what they were doing, but actually getting everything right would have required mastery to such a degree that they wouldn't have been able to get it done before next year.

    • @dominikschindler2330
      @dominikschindler2330 3 роки тому +12

      You're absolutely right, but the last 10% take 90% of the time so I understand why they do it. That said, this bow didn't make it to 90%.

    • @Jaster_Mereel
      @Jaster_Mereel 3 роки тому +1

      Yup

    • @veilsideskyline33
      @veilsideskyline33 3 роки тому +6

      I definately agree. Seems very impatient. Very good production quality and interesting concept, but painful to watch that craftsmanship.
      And sharp tools makes HUGE difference. You can get shaving sharp knife even on a brick.

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 3 роки тому +98

    Building a custom bow was the first large scale project I ever did. I wanted to build a bow that looked like the green arrow bow from the first couple seasons of arrow before it turned into a terrible show. It took forever to find vintage ship building parts so I just bought things that looked like the ship building parts and took a dremel and files to them. It ended up looking better than if I spent all the money on real parts. When I was finished I realized I made it way too powerful. It’s over a 100lbs bow. So I made another smaller one that turned out way nicer. Building things is so fun. You realize you have to build tools to build the tools to build things. You have to learn about random things that you would have never thought of. People always ask me why I have so much random and useless knowledge. Well this is why. Lol

    • @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange
      @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange 3 роки тому +3

      100 is not bad at all, get to bulking and all and that could easily be enough to take down some deer!

    • @MythWorks
      @MythWorks 3 роки тому +4

      @@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange yeah even like a 45 pounder recurve could take down deer. The 100 lbs he did is just a little too powerful to be considered practical in most applications

    • @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange
      @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange 3 роки тому

      @@MythWorks Are you nuts? That’s not even close to high enough, crossbow gang requires at least 60 to be considered based!

    • @MythWorks
      @MythWorks 3 роки тому +6

      @@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange yeah but draw weight is not the same for bows and crossbows, since crossbows typically have a shorter draw length

    • @hialsohi772
      @hialsohi772 3 роки тому

      @@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange are you nuts bows typically weigh around 70lb

  • @diggoran
    @diggoran 3 роки тому +35

    Store bought bowstring, store bought wrapping cord and glue toward the end, and even shot some store bought arrows. I guess you guys were really running out of time with this one?

    • @simonphoenix3789
      @simonphoenix3789 3 роки тому +1

      diggoran glad I am not the only one who noticed the store bought "hide glue".

    • @Grok14
      @Grok14 Рік тому +1

      You do it

  • @mitchellnelson3433
    @mitchellnelson3433 3 роки тому +9

    This is one of the most underrated channel on UA-cam, despite the 1M subscriber count. I really think that they deserve more support and subscribers, because what they are doing is absolutely amazing. I'm so glad that they take their sponsors, they deserve the money. This is one of my favorite channels.

    • @migalito1955
      @migalito1955 3 роки тому +1

      I agree completely.
      This show very dramatically indicates that if our machines were to suddenly disappear tomorrow we largely would be doing what is being filmed, but the difference is our lives would depend on it rather than being an exercise in demonstration.

  • @hugohallquisth8834
    @hugohallquisth8834 3 роки тому +107

    A bow needs to be of hardwood to bow as it should. Also, consider trying to get in contact with some bodgers to maybe advance your wood-working skills.

    • @ImCannibalOfficial
      @ImCannibalOfficial 3 роки тому +11

      And maybe a traditional bowyer.

    • @SF-li9kh
      @SF-li9kh 3 роки тому +9

      Exactly, the wood was too fibrous. And the binding should have been done under proper tension. He could have watched mongol bow masters on UA-cam.

    • @rokka7188
      @rokka7188 3 роки тому +2

      Considering the finds back then, the mongol bow's limbs were made of various pieces of willow and such, maybe with birch as well. Hardwood, which I think birch or bone was only one available, was given to the nock parts of the bow. Partly the reason for this all, because they didn't have much single-wood bow-wood, which the same applied in other Siberian tribes, where they made various other composite bows, though with only two or three laminates.

    • @therealcloroxbleach9408
      @therealcloroxbleach9408 3 роки тому +7

      Not necessarily hardwood as yew, cypress, and juniper make great bows but yes his wood working skills need serious improvement if he has any thoughts of advancing this series

    • @alexanderflack566
      @alexanderflack566 3 роки тому +1

      @@rokka7188 As I recall, bamboo or maple were often preferred for the core of a composite bow. I don't recall birch being used as a core material (although they used birch bark as an outer layer to protect the sinew and glue), and I certainly have never heard of bone being used for that purpose.

  • @the-thane
    @the-thane 3 роки тому +97

    The bow is way too deep when strung. It barely has any length left to do work on the arrow.

    • @ryanschmitt5053
      @ryanschmitt5053 3 роки тому +13

      yeah his brace height is about half of his draw length lol

    • @Ryan-qh1ef
      @Ryan-qh1ef 3 роки тому +19

      And that hinge is gonna break the limb. Bow is already broken.

    • @simonphoenix3789
      @simonphoenix3789 3 роки тому +7

      there is no sinew on the bow either. pretty sure the only thing stopping the back from lifting completely is the rope wrapped around the whole thing.

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything 3 роки тому +11

      Waste of expensive materials.

    • @therealcloroxbleach9408
      @therealcloroxbleach9408 3 роки тому +9

      He ruined the horn in the “shaping”, wasn’t even fully heated. And like the older bow, the tillering is anything but even. I mean look at the hinges.

  • @Brandon._._
    @Brandon._._ 3 роки тому +3

    i am am a bowyer and an engineer for a living, and i love to see videos like these teaching people about making their own bows and spreading awareness about archery! Keep up the great work!

  • @dominikschindler2330
    @dominikschindler2330 3 роки тому +28

    I was really relieved when he stopped his first stringing attempt... Hide glue is brittle, slathering that thick layer on pieces meant to be bent gave me anxiety...

    • @dracoargentum9783
      @dracoargentum9783 3 роки тому +1

      I could literally feel it as he was bending that bow.

  • @junatah5903
    @junatah5903 3 роки тому +17

    As soon as you started saying, "I think we are the first to advertise this game." I instantly knew it was raid shadow legends.

  • @gsmontag
    @gsmontag 3 роки тому +1

    Lauren is the best. Seriously.

  • @NecroBanana
    @NecroBanana 3 роки тому +5

    Man, those arrows Lauren made are...less than stellar. You can't just bend green wood straight and expect it to stay that way. You have yo straighten it slowly over the course of a week or so. Every day getting it straighter and soon it'll be done

  • @MORNINGSTAR827
    @MORNINGSTAR827 3 роки тому +98

    imagine when he gets to the 18th centry he will have to make a frickin revolver XD

    • @hunters36forgingwoodworkin73
      @hunters36forgingwoodworkin73 3 роки тому +5

      No. They are shockingly hard to make. I mean you have flint lock revolvers dating back to the 1600’s. But they were made by master smiths. Watch a video on early guns. They are entertaining and very educational.

    • @MORNINGSTAR827
      @MORNINGSTAR827 3 роки тому +2

      @@hunters36forgingwoodworkin73 yeah i know even 1mm of the barrel of the gun being off can blow hes hand up but the easiest homemade guns use buckshots because they shoot pellets and dont need a fancy gun they just need a gun that has a way to eject the shell and a grip and a hammer to shoot the pellets a good example would be double barreld shotguns but still i dont think he should make one for saftey reasons and it could be illegel

    • @khecidsdragons7777
      @khecidsdragons7777 3 роки тому +4

      Primitive cannons are even earlier and probably pretty problematic in themselves. I imagine black powder will be fun 😉😆

    • @catmagedsproductions1998
      @catmagedsproductions1998 3 роки тому

      Imagine making a Cannon I've seen people make cannons but that SH!! Will take a Toooon of iron

    • @chickenmag1657
      @chickenmag1657 3 роки тому +2

      @@khecidsdragons7777 its a pretty straight forward process tbh.

  • @PeterTMT
    @PeterTMT 3 роки тому +27

    I would focus on making some better arrows. You don't need to start with small straight branches. You can cut a few 36 inch long rounds from a larger tree and then split the round into a pile of 1x1 square blanks. You then use a plane (or sharp edge/or even a stone) to smooth each corner until you eventually get a round dowel. The result is a much straighter, knot free shaft which you can then fine tune to your desired draw weight. Measuring the "spine" for an arrow shaft is very simple and will stop arrows from flexing too much and flying off in random directions.
    As for fletching - be sure to give yourself enough room near the nocking point to hold the arrow between your fingers.

    • @brandonbackes930
      @brandonbackes930 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. You can use a board with a length wise grove as jig to lay the shafts in as you shave them true.

    • @sillyjellyfish2421
      @sillyjellyfish2421 2 роки тому

      Also keeping the orientation of feathers the same for all 3 of them is important. The arrow is stabilized in the same way space rockets are - by the spin. If 2 feathers promote the clockwise spin and the 3rd one is for anticlockwise, the result is almost straight flying arrow with no spin and a horrible uneven trajectory no matter what you do

    • @michaelmorris1865
      @michaelmorris1865 Рік тому

      I use boards with grooves from 5/16"-1/2" cut at a 45° angle and split aspen(poplar), ash, or spruce logs along the grain to the desired size then set them in to corresponding grooves the slowly plain the edges down before sanding to round. Fletch with turkey, pheasant, grouse, and occasionally raven feathers from matched wings, taper for a point, and either cut a self nock reinforced with horn or antler or taper for a nock. *edit don't forget to match the spine.

    • @blacksnapper7684
      @blacksnapper7684 Рік тому

      I agree! Way to thick, uneven transition from point to shaft, and from fletching to shaft, the fletchings where way to short (or at least to my liking) and they where not straight at all…

  • @GyroCannon
    @GyroCannon 3 роки тому +18

    "We're gonna make a giant version of this, a siege weapon called the ballista"
    Okay a bow you can fire at watermelons in a local park, but where are you going to find a place to shoot a ballista?

    • @caliswagsociety
      @caliswagsociety 3 роки тому +4

      Texas

    • @GyroCannon
      @GyroCannon 3 роки тому +2

      @@t_y8274 I don't know how aerodynamic they will be lol

    • @winstonpan6051
      @winstonpan6051 3 роки тому +3

      GyroCannon I believe to fire a projectile like this they will need to construct a superior siege engine which can launch a 90kg projectile over 300 meters

    • @moistoyster3776
      @moistoyster3776 3 роки тому

      Britain!

  • @2sudonim
    @2sudonim 3 роки тому +15

    You need to make a shaft straightener. It's Stone Age tech but your lack of it means nothing you've made of wood has been straight or true.

    • @brandonbackes930
      @brandonbackes930 3 роки тому

      That would definitely help. Most of these arrows are being made from shoots and reeds. Another option is to make a board with a deep groove down the length. Then split a thicker piece of straight grained, seasoned wood into rough shafts. Lay them in the notch as a jig and use the drawknife or even some broken glass to shave them true.

  • @manitat7751
    @manitat7751 3 роки тому +2

    The Mongolians weren't the only ones to use that type of bow

  • @fluxbe2737
    @fluxbe2737 3 роки тому +12

    You could be getting the string wrap way tighter. Look up the technique "common whipping".

  • @daytoncoates4930
    @daytoncoates4930 3 роки тому +16

    Man, this guy is really speed running the history of technology of humanity

  • @Gordons1888
    @Gordons1888 3 роки тому +32

    'I think we are the first people to talk about this game'
    Oooh I wonder what it is?
    'RAIIIIIIIID SHADOW LEGENDS'
    oh. -_-

    • @trezapoioiuy
      @trezapoioiuy 3 роки тому +3

      I guess it's because they haven't yet built a computer to watch YT on, so they don't know.

    • @mopthemop3319
      @mopthemop3319 3 роки тому +1

      or a sarcastic inside joke...

    • @Gordons1888
      @Gordons1888 3 роки тому

      @@mopthemop3319 no shit

    • @mopthemop3319
      @mopthemop3319 3 роки тому

      @@Gordons1888 sherlock

    • @yungchop6332
      @yungchop6332 3 роки тому +1

      They're just rofling on us since we all hate raid, They hate raid. But they need to make their money somehow

  • @jsbarretto
    @jsbarretto 3 роки тому +8

    "In more wet areas such as Britain"
    :hidethepainharold:

  • @themadhatter196
    @themadhatter196 3 роки тому +6

    I need to teach you guys some bow making techniques

  • @RensStoryteller
    @RensStoryteller 3 роки тому

    This guy would make survival reality tv shows a LOT more entertaining.

  • @alexanrustler2611
    @alexanrustler2611 3 роки тому +17

    Good video can’t wait till you cosplay as Gengis Khan

  • @somerandommemedude1709
    @somerandommemedude1709 3 роки тому +1

    My man is speed running human history

  • @hjmiller2689
    @hjmiller2689 3 роки тому +6

    Since you guys are still in the process of perfecting the bow, once you've done it, you should try for a crossbow

  • @4RestJay
    @4RestJay 7 місяців тому +1

    0:28 "Made famous by the Mongolians". Shows a picture of a Manchu.

  • @emils147
    @emils147 3 роки тому +14

    You should consult Karmer Almond he's a archery youtuber and he builds bows.

  • @matthewmarting3623
    @matthewmarting3623 3 роки тому

    Imo, anybody with any tools under any condition who can make a Mongolian bow deserves some respect. Kudos on the outcome

  • @Mireaze
    @Mireaze 3 роки тому +38

    Yay, the magic elven smith is back, I love them so much

    • @lunasills8031
      @lunasills8031 3 роки тому +4

      Are you talking about the one in the short sleeved shirt and the light hair?
      You used a gender neutral pronoun and I want to make sure I get it correct

    • @ZedaZ80
      @ZedaZ80 3 роки тому +4

      Magic Elven Smith :O

    • @Glaaki13
      @Glaaki13 3 роки тому +2

      @@lunasills8031 Well I think they are somewhere in the LGBT+ so they would be the safest bet, but I never found their UA-cam channel

    • @TheElfsmith
      @TheElfsmith 3 роки тому +10

      @@Glaaki13 Heyo it's here

    • @Glaaki13
      @Glaaki13 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheElfsmith thank you very much -looking forward to your contents

  • @sillyjellyfish2421
    @sillyjellyfish2421 2 роки тому

    There is a saying among archers that there is no bad bow, only bad arrows. As long as your hand is steady, the bow will behave exactly the same in every shot. If it tilts, it always tilts. If it's slow, it will always be slow. However, if your arrows are crappy and too uneven between themselves, each one of them will fly differently. As long as your arrows are straight, ballanced, and consistent in their weight and length, you can shoot them from a tree branch with a shoe string and you will hit your target.

  • @thefeatheredfrontiersman8135
    @thefeatheredfrontiersman8135 3 роки тому +18

    All that work just to end up with hinges lol!
    Come on andy!
    Tillering is everything, I'm shocked it didn't fail upon stringing.
    Ok criticism over.
    The bow was only bending in one place.
    It's the ends that need to do most of the work not the risers! That sinew would have made a much better string. The sinew backing would have added a lot more integrity to the limbs, making it much less likely for failure.
    Your arrows would have been much straighter if you bend the crooks completely out in one direction first and then at the pliable points re-straighten the entire thing.
    Put the heavy end forward or they will fly sideways.
    Bow and arrow are absolutely about even balance! If just one tiny bit is working harder than the other it will loose most of it's potential.
    It's tough I know, but don't give up, this try was much more innovative!
    But both bows you have built now both have horrible hinges.
    Balance andy, balance!

    • @dracoargentum9783
      @dracoargentum9783 3 роки тому

      and horrible hinges in the exact same spots!

    • @brandonbackes930
      @brandonbackes930 3 роки тому

      Some excellent points. I agree about the sinew and tillering

  • @timothym9398
    @timothym9398 3 роки тому +1

    I live about an hour south of the cities and make bows as a hobby. I'm no expert, but mine sling arrows pretty well. That spot that's "bending too much" is called a hinge in tillering, and the wood is already compromised too far to be saved. Essentially the cellular structure of the wood there has been crushed in compression, or torn in tension. My guess is a bit of both, but mostly the compressions since it didn't blow up on you. Adding sinew will only further increase the pressure, and cause it to fail even faster. May want to just take a new bow from the start before taking the time and resources on the sinew. Not sure if part of your challenge is not getting outside resources, but if you have any questions on tillering, or other bow making things, feel free to throw me a message. I also know of a few people up in the cities who make a significant part of their living making bows, who you could possibly get in contact with if you wanted. Love the episode and look forward to whatever you're doing next.

  • @monstermayhem4367
    @monstermayhem4367 3 роки тому +6

    You made a primitive, double sided hockey stick

  • @DC9848
    @DC9848 3 роки тому +1

    Your whole team is SO TALENTED (Hosts, Camera crew, background crew). The video production quality has reached a whole new level in the past 24 months. Keep up the impressive work!

  • @ThomasSchannel
    @ThomasSchannel 3 роки тому +4

    His anvil is still stuck in the stone age

    • @unlink1649
      @unlink1649 3 роки тому +1

      Everything is stuck. It's so painful to watch him hammer on a stone. And whenever he casts stuff it's just on literal playground sand. He is really bad at this. Kind of sad that he never takes the time to makes something of any type of quality.

    • @jonajo9757
      @jonajo9757 3 роки тому

      @@unlink1649 Well from what I know, some large stones were used as anvils in the medieval era, though I'm not sure if this was for lower skilled blacksmiths or used both by skinned and lesser skilled.

  • @rnp497
    @rnp497 3 роки тому

    Guys from scratch doesn't mean unsharpened, making use your toys are sharp as possible will make these jobs easier

  • @Louzahsol
    @Louzahsol 3 роки тому +4

    That dude teaching her to forge arrowheads can really swing a hammer

  • @technocracynow9339
    @technocracynow9339 3 роки тому +1

    No German? No Evil Laughs? Ohh this isnt Jörg Sprave's Channel.

  • @chringlanthegreat4556
    @chringlanthegreat4556 3 роки тому +6

    You guys should really do a collab with Tod’s workshop when you make a video on medieval armour or weapons

  • @ehodzic155
    @ehodzic155 3 роки тому +2

    Thing is making bows is an art. You can have all the knowledge in the world in how to make it, but it takes a lot of talent and practice to make it well.

    • @veilsideskyline33
      @veilsideskyline33 3 роки тому

      I agree. But half decent bow is not that difficult. It just takes patience. You cant rush it. Sharp tools would help too
      I like this concept and production quality, but this is comparable to Mr Bean painting his walls with explosives

  • @ryanschmitt5053
    @ryanschmitt5053 3 роки тому +5

    From a production standpoint this is akin to "I had trouble making a model t, but now I have better tools so I am going to try and make a mustang" There is a lot that goes in to making a bow, and anyone who has ever made one can tell that tillering was skimped on. This is why the initial bow showed signs of cracking. Using better and more expensive materials just makes a more expensive mistake. I love most of these videos but as someone who has made bows before I feel like 1 hour with anyone who has made a bow before could at least help him to have a working bow (not a composite bow).

  • @ioppdal
    @ioppdal 3 роки тому +1

    @HTME you need to make the things with which to make things: files for wood and metal, sharpening devices for saws and cutting tools, small knifes for detailed work... and use no more the philosophy: I have a hammer so everything is a nail, I have an axe so everythng is sliceable with an axe.

    • @dracoargentum9783
      @dracoargentum9783 3 роки тому

      Then again, everything IS sliceable with an axe...
      Oh, wait! was that out loud? Motherpussbucket.

  • @jamesholland7841
    @jamesholland7841 3 роки тому +5

    “I don’t think anyone is talking about this game....RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!!”

  • @Intranetusa
    @Intranetusa 3 роки тому

    Examples of heavier draw weights of composite recurve bows: The heavier Mongol recurve were around the 160s lb in draw weight. Ottoman Turk bows ranged from 90 to 160lbs, with the heaviest outliers were in the 200s lb draw weight. Qing Dynasty Manchu bows were typically 80-180lbs in draw weight, while the heaviest outliers could reach 240 lbs in draw weight. The Tang Dynasty required a minimum of 168 lb in draw weight for archers to qualify as first class archers. The Song Dynasty required the use of a minimum of 160 lbs for infantry and 120 lbs for cavalry to qualify as first class archers.

  • @berndbernd3464
    @berndbernd3464 3 роки тому +6

    Puting glue on the part of the horn that wont even touch the wood..

    • @MegaAdeny
      @MegaAdeny 3 роки тому +3

      But extremely thick layers of glass-brittle glue are BOUND to make the bow stronger! /s

  • @CorruptOcean
    @CorruptOcean 3 роки тому +2

    HTME:"I dont think anyone's ever talked about this game, maybe I should check"
    Me:"ooh maybe a cool new game!"
    HTME:"RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!"
    Me:"😐"

  • @bacongaming3659
    @bacongaming3659 3 роки тому +12

    When this guy says he made something "Home made" he means out of dirt, rocks, and plants.

    • @ImCannibalOfficial
      @ImCannibalOfficial 3 роки тому +1

      And poorly

    • @brandonbackes930
      @brandonbackes930 3 роки тому

      The idea is that a regular person could reinvent these technologies. He may be aware that sutch things were once possible but the details have to be worked out by trial and error.

  • @CombatGod
    @CombatGod 3 роки тому

    You guys should really take a historic class on boating and tying knots. There's a huge lost archive of knots and rope making that we have lost. It would also help enhance nearly every single project. I'm just looking at you guys making the bow and there are so many better knots to use which would help increase the overall knot tension.

  • @michaelbateman8469
    @michaelbateman8469 3 роки тому +9

    Considering that a bowyer and fletcher apprenticed for years to hone their knowledge, I think as a first attempt this turned out well.

    • @veilsideskyline33
      @veilsideskyline33 3 роки тому +11

      I don't know. Its painful to watch. It definately doesn't take years to make something at least decent. Very impatient

  • @danielhathaway8042
    @danielhathaway8042 3 роки тому

    The Bowers Bible is a good series for books explaining bow make materials, and trouble shooting.

  • @simonphoenix3789
    @simonphoenix3789 3 роки тому +3

    compared to that "arrow", the bow might as well be a work of art.

  • @ripthetruth1006
    @ripthetruth1006 3 роки тому +1

    I've been following your channel since you made glass with Cody's lab an the king of random (RIP). I've been depressed for a long time, even since my son died, but yalls videos bring a ray of curiosity and happiness into my life that sometimes I don't get anywhere else but my wife. So I guess congrats on how far you've come and I look forward to seeing how far you go

  • @carlramirez6339
    @carlramirez6339 3 роки тому +3

    First person to talk about Raid Shadow Legends? Yeah right.

  • @camillosteuss
    @camillosteuss 2 роки тому

    To quote an old guy who taught an old guy that i met once... ¬If they wanted you to hold a hammer there, they would have made the handle shorter...¬ True, you get more apparent control with choking it, but a hammer is as accurate as you are, and stronger than you are if you use it properly, so grip it down low, let the bounce lift the hammer up and help you with mechanical efforting while you focus more on wielding it and striking precisely... Hammers are a marvel and a tool that for its area of use in craft, offers you if you master it, a precision and ease of use, while offering increased strength at the same time by the length of the handle... You should only choke up on the handle when you are finishing and engraving... Apart from those two, and even for finishing, just let the hammer drop, dont swing it, when you hold it by the end, the stroke will be gentle but strong enough to work metal or rock, while allowing you to rely on its bounce to make a new strike and focus on placement of the strike... Its why you can swing a maul of 15 pounds with one hand and wield it thusly while for example using a wedge to split stone or wood if you can rely on the hammers nature to aid you... But then you waste the other hands strength so you dont do that just because it makes no sense, but you can as a relatively weak man or woman, wield a maul and swing it one handed if you know how to dance the dance of the hammer...

    • @TheElfsmith
      @TheElfsmith 2 роки тому

      My handles are longer than a lot of traditional blacksmithing hammers so that I can slide my grip down for heavier strikes on thicker material rather than changing hammers. Gripping that low simply wasn't needed here.

  • @UnknowinglyDerpy
    @UnknowinglyDerpy 3 роки тому +4

    I love how the Channel's progression not only has the technology gotten better, but cleaner looking as well!

    • @anthonyhayes1267
      @anthonyhayes1267 3 роки тому

      On that note, it does drive home why people started specializing their labor

  • @baseermirza2947
    @baseermirza2947 3 роки тому +1

    Jack of all trades master of none

  • @TheCobaltKnight27
    @TheCobaltKnight27 3 роки тому +4

    You don't need to follow history, you just need to get the the engine as fast as possible.

  • @TheReykjavik
    @TheReykjavik 3 роки тому +1

    I'm very glad to see you have upgraded your work bench and have the vice thingamajig, much less likely to hurt yourself that way and also it will be way easier for more refinement in all the things you make. It is nice to see both your crafting skills and your tools improve over time.

  • @epauletshark3793
    @epauletshark3793 3 роки тому +17

    Advancement in weapons makes me happy. Wuld you guys go into crossbows, or firearms at some point? I realy wanna see how you would make a flintlock and advance to cartridges or modern firearms.

  • @extraterrestrial4287
    @extraterrestrial4287 2 роки тому

    Gather your shafts in the spring after the sap begins to flow and the bark slips off easy but before new wood begins to grow. No shaving or rasping shafts. Cut in the spring after dormancy breaks and the bark will peel off easy in long strips using just your fingernails. Very smooth wood underneath the bark.

  • @kenderichardkabu300
    @kenderichardkabu300 3 роки тому +3

    The best channel on youtube:
    It is really hard to build such a bow even using modern tools.

  • @migalito1955
    @migalito1955 3 роки тому +2

    Bows, even self bows are tougher to pull off than meets the eye. To make an effective composite bow with very primitive tools was quite the challenge and hats off that it stayed together well enough to do a bit of target shooting.
    If you want another equally challenging weapon for a bit down the road try a crossbow from around the 13 hundreds where the biggest challenge will be forming the steel throwing arm also called a prod.
    Thanks for demonstrating all the methodologies used over the generations while starting at the most primitive. It really is fascinating to see....

  • @cleetus1715
    @cleetus1715 3 роки тому +4

    Why are the arrows traveling so slow ? Realistically you couldn’t even hunt a rat with that bow

    • @Talen900
      @Talen900 3 роки тому +4

      Because that bow is basically broken, they aren't getting any of the strength from the limbs passed those massive bends/brakes near the handle. They really ought to work on tillering the bow properly and getting a nice even taper. But I think that ones done for

    • @cleetus1715
      @cleetus1715 3 роки тому

      @@Talen900 ahhh shucks, it seems like he really spent a whole lot of time on it too.

    • @Sandreas95
      @Sandreas95 3 роки тому +1

      @@cleetus1715 That's basically Andy's catchphrase...
      I've followed the show for a long time now, and while I appreciate what they do, I think they'd really benefit from having time to actually do things properly. I had mad respect for Andy's multiple attempts to actually make clear glass, but I wish they'd go back more often and "get it right" - whether it's because they wanna move or because UA-cam doesn't really allow for more time and/or repeats, I don't know.

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 3 роки тому +1

      time and more professional help, the Elvensmith helped them a lot with ironworking, it would have been painful to watch them trying to learn how to smith by themselves. sadly it doesn't matter how much you learn about a craft, you can't replace years of experience. so I really hope they seek more professionals in the future.

  • @yanyukami800
    @yanyukami800 3 роки тому +1

    The photo used at 0:28 does not picture a Mongolian or a Mongolian bow but a Manchu Archer. The Manchu is a distinct people group that are not considered a part of Mongolians while the Manchu bow although similar to the Mongolian bow has different design and features such as that it shoots much heavier arrows and specialize for penetration.
    Furthermore, the photo used is literally on the Wikipedia page of the MANCHU BOW.

  • @StaffSgtGravy
    @StaffSgtGravy 3 роки тому +8

    I don't want to comment first but at the same time I want to so bad

    • @Hi_Brien
      @Hi_Brien 3 роки тому +2

      I feel that

    • @pepre7594
      @pepre7594 3 роки тому

      you just commented first but with more words

  • @Bullfrogerwytsch
    @Bullfrogerwytsch 3 роки тому +1

    Poor tillering not only causes it to be more likely to break but it also very dramatically reduces the power.

  • @DogsaladSalad
    @DogsaladSalad 3 роки тому +10

    its cool that you guys really tried your best , but as a bowyer (amateur level) this is the cringest shit ive seen in years

    • @MegaAdeny
      @MegaAdeny 3 роки тому +5

      The voice of reason!

    • @mbartelsm
      @mbartelsm 3 роки тому +3

      You don't need to be a bowyer to tell. They don't even sharpen their tools.

    • @MegaAdeny
      @MegaAdeny 3 роки тому

      @@mbartelsm Alas, but most non-bowyers in the comments seem to be blind.

    • @rawdrywall8212
      @rawdrywall8212 3 роки тому

      @@mbartelsm kinda hard when the material the tools are made out of dull after one use

  • @muhammadgbadegesin8043
    @muhammadgbadegesin8043 3 роки тому +1

    I love how he makes, grows, or gets all the materials himself instead of buying them from the store.👍🏿

  • @linasses6239
    @linasses6239 3 роки тому +5

    just as a pointer, add some small grooves to the middle of the limbs where the bow string sits on the limbs, this will give more accuracy with consistent string placement when shot as well as help with the lifespan of the bow. apart from that, looks pretty damn good

  • @cmw184
    @cmw184 3 роки тому

    Make a house! Not like a full fledged house, just a small hut built from your materials. And maybe a sword too

  • @hamnonox
    @hamnonox 3 роки тому +4

    Andy: ".. poison arrows"
    Me: nothing good can come of this

  • @bsoul3177
    @bsoul3177 3 роки тому

    I like! Guys don't skip the ads if you want to support them more! it gives them more money.

  • @sarsapong
    @sarsapong 3 роки тому +3

    Well since he start having more “tools” and in iron age maybe he could make crossbow. And lathe machine there a old style paddle lathe table or something like that

  • @gavingonder707
    @gavingonder707 3 роки тому +1

    The bows used by the Mongol Empire had between 150-180 pounds of drawback.

  • @faeryn5992
    @faeryn5992 3 роки тому +3

    Does Adrean the blacksmith have a channel? i'd be interested in adding it to my list

    • @Glaaki13
      @Glaaki13 3 роки тому

      Yes they talked about but I never did find a link

    • @TheElfsmith
      @TheElfsmith 3 роки тому +2

      Hello, yes, it is Adri.

    • @DH-xw6jp
      @DH-xw6jp 3 роки тому

      @@TheElfsmith hey, i just want to apologize for my not so polite comments on the last on of HTME videos you were part of.

  • @yeonsu1393
    @yeonsu1393 3 роки тому

    The Mongolians probably had bow makers and master craftsman who did it for all their lives, which is why they could hit up to 300 yards with their bows. The fact that you were able to make this bow, then fix it using your prior knowledge from bow making and hit 40 yards is pretty dang impressive.

  • @lockbow
    @lockbow 3 роки тому +14

    As much as I like the concept of this channel, especially after the reboot, this episode was just painful to watch.
    From the images used coupled with the narration (eg. talking about Mongolian archery & showing a Manchu archer from the Qing dynasty) up until the held together with string and glue "bow" it comes across as a project they planned in an hour, spent another hour researching and 30 minutes sourcing materials.
    This channel needs more attention to detail, finish and go beyond the proof of concept stage.
    They do have a positive attitude, but that alone doesn't make good content.

  • @pottersdog
    @pottersdog 3 роки тому

    The areas other than the immediate shoulder likely just need thinning and sanding slightly since the wood always prefers to bend where it's thinnest, you can offset that by making sure the rest of the limb has the same flex by thinning where it doesn't flex as much, it'll give you slightly more power in theory too since you're using the entire limb rather than a small point. It's also a good indicator of where needs thinning when you're using non processed materials and you want it to flex.

  • @argentum84
    @argentum84 3 роки тому +5

    With iron age and iron tools, preaty sure people mastered how to sharpen those nice tools. You have nice axe and saw and stuff but they look crazy dull. Rocks were awalable before iron, no?
    Maybe have quest of how to sharpen tools?
    Keep up good work

  • @thesmoviemaker21
    @thesmoviemaker21 3 роки тому

    2021: How to make a bow from scratch
    2023: How to make a flint lock from scratch
    3022: *How to make a rail gun from scratch*

  • @rjrj3601
    @rjrj3601 3 роки тому +3

    this dude is just so impatient when it comes to making these projects. If only he spent a bit more time getting all his research together rather than just skimming the wiki, and actually developing his skills. I'm pretty sure nobody would complain if he made a mini series titled learning proper woodworking etc.but hey i get it, making a mongolian bow gets him those clicks right.

    • @lukapichler3666
      @lukapichler3666 3 роки тому

      bruh it's not easy doing what he's doing, he needs to output enough videos to maintain a schedule.

    • @rjrj3601
      @rjrj3601 3 роки тому

      @@lukapichler3666 nobody said he had to do an entire project in one video. making a mongolian bow part 1, 2, 3. im sorry but putting this little effort into making something and still having the titel crafting a mongolian bow is borderline clickbait. when he started his channel i was expecting him to put effort into improving his skills but it seems like hes not even trying anymore.

    • @lukapichler3666
      @lukapichler3666 3 роки тому +1

      @@rjrj3601 I mean that's fair, but I wouldn't call it clickbait. It is a mongolian bow, just a really shitty one. Hopefully he'll work on his skills at some point

  • @thatsablackperson4708
    @thatsablackperson4708 3 роки тому

    Hello as a turkish archer and bow maker the most important problem I see is the wood it self. I personally use steam pump to solve this problem but I think the most effective solution is to keep it over boiling water (1-2 hours). Other problem I see is the glue after gluing it you should let it rest like 2 weekends thx for the video amazing work :)

  • @vao879
    @vao879 3 роки тому +3

    8:50 what was that ..

  • @m2hmghb
    @m2hmghb 3 роки тому +1

    Wet sinew is a better choice then twine or rope. As it dries it will shrink and tighten everything down. Just an observation.

  • @welshcakeinc.65
    @welshcakeinc.65 3 роки тому +2

    wow well I got here pretty early