I love this channel. Tech and Rogue always have that really “practical” approach to builds. You can still ball out on your rig, but run at lower settings to maximize your fps. It isn’t all about benchmarks and ultra graphics.
They're just wonderful!!! PC Builder is also good as well, he takes a level headed practical approach. My 2 fave channels and they hit that sweet spot of 10-15 mins per vid.
@@kirbyrules55 mostly yea haha. But I've noticed so many nice things about upgrading my cpu, use to get so much weird stutter when i had multiple things going which have completly disappeared
lol it's wicked eh? i went from an FX-8350 with a 980ti to a 3700x and a 2080ti and it wasn't even comparable! eve6rything played so smooth and seamless it was amazing. it's starting to stutter a bit in games that it really shouldn't do now so I'm looking to upgrade again lol
gaming 1440 @ 144hz with a x370 mobo and 3700xt. you just earned yourself a subscriber. you guys are awesome for going over this with examples of avg (edit: i meant to say median) framerate, and different variations of setups. you cut through the bs, and i respect that. thank you.
i was gaming with a 3700x and a 3060. switched to a 6900xt and was getting 160 fps in warzone. then upgraded to a 5900x and now get 220-240 solid. 1440p as well. the 3700x was absolutely holding it back. and the frames were jumping up and down way too much with the 3700x and its pretty damn stable now.
Thank you! I Have a 3700x and was pairing it with a RX 5700XT. I also got a RX 6900XT in the meantime and I have this feeling, that my 1% lows are caused by my 3700X. I just don't know if a Ryzen 7 5800X will be enough or if I should bite the bullet and go for a 5900X.
@@BossMaynKt i did buy a 5900x. No regrets. The 1% lows are indeed way smoother. But what I did is limiting my frames in every game which my system handles 95% of the time. Now I have constant and perfect frame pacing. Basically the dream.
i am in the exact....same....scenario. 3700x with a 6900xt on the way. i may want to wait for the 7000 series to go down in price. my plan is to possibly upgrade to the 7000 when prices stabilize, and keep the 6900xt. i am a little unconfident with my decision however....enough to ask, what do you think? keep the 5700xt and upgrade to a 5800x or 5900x, or get the 6900xt card now and wait for the 7000 series? i am running a aorus x370, 16 gb 3200 ram.
@@cmsmith2142 How did it go with the 3700x and 6900xt in the end? What happens is that I have my 3700x and I'm going to buy a 6950xt, I only play on a tv at 60hz 4K, I don't need anything more than 60 fps and ultra or high graphics. In your experience, do you think it works well or will there be a bottleneck that does not allow this configuration?
The way you take the time to explain things so that everyone can relate is impeccable to say the least. YOU gave me the information and confidence to update my AsRock PG4 X570 bios. I'm subbed now, your content is invaluable and needs to be shared.
My brother got a 3070, still had the 3700x and we decided to upgrade it to a 5800x. In black desert online we were able to get 144 fps when he used to get around 100. we gave the 3700x to my other brother who had a 1700. Didn't upgrade the motherboards but everything worked without issue
@@ashouaxiong1404 greatly depends on the game you are playing. My brother did it because of Black Desert Online, any other game was able to reach 144 fps just fine.
I upgraded from a 3700x to a 5800x and I noticed a huge difference in 1% lows and stability In have a 3080ti and Im complete happy with my 8 core 5800x
Hi tech . Thanks for the gr8 videos. I recently upgraded my RX 5700 XT to a 3080ti. I'm still on a b450 MB and have a ryzen 7 3700x on it with 32gigs ram . 850w power supply and a m.2 storage. I didn't wane upgraded the pc all together because next gen is around the corner but must say , I knw my 3700x is holding me back for now but I'm a quiet big COD player and my medium fps is like 180 fps and I'm playing on a Samsung odyssey g7 240hz at 1440p and my system is Smooth. Withe the RX 5700XT my medium fps was around 90 to 100 fps . So it's a nice upgraded for me and can't wait to pair next cps with the 3080ti . Thanx again for all you advice
@@jackal4672 If you're at 92% GPU utilization there's not much room for improvement with a CPU upgrade. That doesn't mean you shouldn't upgrade to a better CPU for other tasks and general PC smoothness. I have a 3700x as well and I'm waiting for Ryzen 6000 series with 3D V-cache early next year and will upgrade then since it will be the last gen on AM4 platform.
I got a 3900x with a RTX 3080. My monitor is an Ultrawide 3840 x 1600 resolution at 144 hz If I was playing at 1080p or 1440p, I would change my CPU because the fps jump is significant. But at almost 4k I don't see the difference even in the 1% low
I have a 3700x with 3080ti and I'm sure I can get like 5% more performance upgrading to a 5900x playing games at 4K but don't think its worth it. Rather build an entire new PC when I do upgrade
I upgraded from 3700x to a 5900x and I'm in a small form factor build with a tiny cooler and the 5900x is much better than the 3700x. It runs faster and cooler with four more cores on the same cooler. Went from a 5700xt to 6900xt. Also a huge upgrade. Your 3080ti would probably love it.
@@tyhank453 3700x is still a great CPU but definitely wanted a bit more for my form factor and cooler. Now I'm basically at the limit. 3700x couldn't even reach stock boosts on my low profile cooler and sfx case while the 5900x does, which is faster IPC, less latency, and 50% more cores. I definitely noticed everything is smoother but I also upgraded my ram from 32GB 3200 to 64GB 4000 and GPU from 5700xt to 6900xt. So hard to say if you'll have the same wow factor from the upgrade unless what you're doing likes more cores. I tried my 3700x with a 3060ti over the 5700xt and the 3060ti improved performance pretty drastically on its own.
@@DirtySoap Thanks for the info. I only game but the games I play are normally cpu heavy. I’ve wondered if my 3700x bottlenecks my 3070 gpu. I also just have 16 gb ddr4 ram at 3200. I’ve had my pc about 2 years. Bought pre built and don’t know a ton but I’ve been doing a lot of research trying to learn more so I greatly appreciate the info!
Running a 3700X on a X570 board with a RTX 3080 and 2x8GB 3600CL18, and I game on 1660p 165Hz. Gaming is "very good" and that may sound like downplaying performance, but I've found the experience to be exceptionally good even if I don't hit 165+Hz. Games are silky smooth, and I can multitask as I run a second 4K screen on the side. Bang for buck, the Ryzen 3700X is still a beast of a chip.
I have a 3700X + X570 motherboard with an RX 6800XT and 32GB of 3600CL16 RAM. Gaming usually is pretty smooth, but I do have those frame rate dips that really annoy me. However, this CPU was always meant to be a starter CPU for my AM4 build - it has been a good purchase. But to fix the frame rate dips, I feel like upgrading to a 5000-series CPU would help. 5800X3D would be the obvious choice, but the price is pretty high.
@@kemari47 Not yet. Still feeling like I should, but I'm saving up for some speaker purchases that apparently are my first priority. 😅 Was also waiting if I should go for AM5 or whatever Intel's new socket was, but so far I'm keeping this platform - will upgrade the CPU, though.
I've got a 5900x with my 3090 but I only game. If I were to upgrade from something like this dude, I would probably be getting a 12700 or 12900 right now
He is already on AM4 platform. If he can install Ryzen 5000 cpu in his motherboard there is no need to upgrade to Intel. Gaming performance will be comparable. Intel 13th and 14th generation will be real upgrade.
For gaming at that level, 8-Cores is Optimal, before small IPC gains will matter more. Gamers in 2019 would of spent $700-800 on a 3950x and within 15 months a $280 11600k matches in gaming as the extra 6-8 cores mostly sit idle Depending what you currently have, a used 10850k is nice, good value, or a used 11700k unpopular but therefore great value, and can perform better for Less in games and General computing. Anything beyond is gonna Jump in Cost for a single percentage difference, outside workload Or wait for 6 months, for better Alder Lake support, then go 12600 12700
Oh, I just thinking about upgrading my own 3700x. Also not sure if I even need what. Got b450 tomahawk V1.0, 32gb CL 18, 3070TI... Using two monitors 1080p 144hz + 60 hz playing kinda competitive games, besides gaming using OBS, blender, davinci and photoshop...
Prices of 5900x and 5950x are 345 and 525 USD in my region, respectively. I owned a 3700x + 2070S and have a dual monitor setup (a 2k 165Hz plus a 515x1920 sensor monitor). Upgrading to a 5950x is giving me better 1% low in games like Elden Ring and Froza Horizon. My computer is perceivably less laggy in multiple situations (both in game and in daily uses). And now I'am good with my setup and waiting for a GPU upgrade. Thank you for your advice, Sir.
@@batmansteel778 If it is 1080p then upgrading a 3700x should boost the fps more than that in my case. But I am not sure whether that money should be put on GPU rather if your primary goal is to get the max fps. Nonetheless, I think it worths your time to at least wait for Ryzen Zen4 releases, possibly for RDNA3 releases as well. You may also consider selling you cpu and mobo to switch to intel 12th/13th gen depending on your budget and use case.
Great video...still debating on switching due to my recent upgrade to a 6900xt. Currently, I have a b450i, 3700x, with a 32" 165hz. Games I plays are like Apex, Icarus, valorant. Fps type of games.
EDIT: Figured out that having Ryzen Master installed was causing the bsod. Latest bios is stable now and I have a 5900x coming today. If you see no further update it was a success. EDIT 2: Turns out my 3700x is NOT compatible with the most current update. It works fine with the 5900x... after clean install. I have a 3700x/3060ti on a MSI B450M Bazooka motherboard and I wanted to upgrade to a 5900x because I have been playing games at 120hz more often. When I am only gaming, the 3700x is rock solid, but if I have all my software going I will notice small dips below 120 in certain games. So before buying the 5900x I tested the recent bios update that supports 5000x series and I was unable to run my ram above 2133mhz without getting bsod after sign in. So I am gonna hold off on upgrading until I see what 8000x series has to offer. Lucky I was able to rollback bios and everything was normal again.
as a Ryzen 3700X owner if your only planning to get an RTX3070 and stick with that GPU for a good long while and you only play in 1440P then your good but you ever plan to get a better GPU then upgrading would be a must as there will be a lot more games that will bottleneck with that CPU. I am even already seeing that with my RTX2070 Super in some games.
This is what I get for dilly dallying with my build (I.e., not having time to build and transition to a new system, I.e., procrastination galore). I see a video about advice on what to upgrade to from a 3700X while I am upgrading TO a 3700X. Sigh. (OTOH, I sure got my moneys worth from my Phenom II !)
I made the mistake of opening an email from Newegg saying I'd 'won' the shuffle...if by winning they meant 'buying' a Gigabyte 3090 and Gigabyte z590 extreme....I had like 5 min. to decide, and since I did have a 4k monitor still in the box I shelled out the coin....I have a i9 11900kf on order and still looking for the memory.
I know the video is old but I have to day it for anyone watching. Taking the median fps is not a good move because you can have a spike in fps and suddenly, the median also moves up. Also, medians do not mean that 50% of data is high or lower, it just means that the middle of the provided range is the median e.g. low is 30 and high is 90 and so 60 is the median but your average is 42 which means that more often than not, you'll have 42 fps which likely means over half the fps is below the median
What is the best upgrade cpu for a 2700x on 470X board, 32 ram, rtx2060, 1080p 165 hz 32" wide screen, all ssd / nvme drives? Play majority games with little multitasking or things like video editing. Or should I just go for a GPU upgrade. Not playing super high end AAA games that much anymore. Play mostly multi-player games like Rust, POE, Valheim, destiny 2...etc and single player like GTA, doom, dying light, fallout series etc. Or should I just keep current setup with no change and put my money someplace else like networking and home server? Budget would be 800 to 900 for both cpu and gpu. Could flex a bit more if price vs performance worth the value.
I'm keeping my 2070 Super (no money to upgrade), but I did order the 5800x3D (big discount on amazon) to upgrade my 3700x. Asus X570 e-gaming, 32gb 3600mhz, AIO cooling. Triple monitor 1080p 144hz, playing Elite Dangerous and Flight / Race Simulators, all other games single screen 1080p. My CPU holds on 40% load and 75% GPU load hitting 50 FPS in Elite Dangerous. -> So I think (hope) CPU bottleneck that is going to be resolved by upgrading the CPU.
@@coco_bedo314 No joking, but this was my best and profound update ever. Just switching the CPU out I hit 175 FPS easily now with 98% load on GPU and 35% load on CPU in Elite Dangerous. A world of difference for high detailed and demanding games that are badly optimized. My goal is achieved , but all the games benefit from this upgrade, my FPS rate is much higher now, and much smoother gaming.
imho when it comes to gaming, our monitor specs and games we play should define the word "bottleneck" for cpu and gpu pairing. 4k 60hz vs 1440p 144hz, AAA vs esport titles.
How bad is my 9900k bottlenecking my 3080ti? Not overclocked. 1440P non ultrawide at 170 hertz. 64 GB of DDR4 3600 with XMP enabled. I have one monitor and I generally play with the settings cranked and ray tracing on if available. 240mm Bequiet Liquid AIO CPU cooler. I play newer-ish games.
@@pocpc1788 in The Ascent it hovers all over the place. Sometimes 99 percent. Other times 60ish. Frame times are garbage during intense action. Not sure if the game is just buggy or the 9900k is showing its age.
I have a Ryzen 5 5600g cpu and RX 6600 gpu with 32gb ram. I run 2 monitors at 1080p and 144hz. I like to stream mainly fortnite at up to 1080p. I want to upgrade either my cpu or gpu first. Which should I do first to improve streaming and gaming on my single pc?
I traded my 6 months old Ryzen 7 3700x to a new and sealed Ryzen 5 5600x straight up from FB market and I do have a better gaming experience even with two asus 27 inch 1440p monitors . Now my cards varies from 6800xt to 3080 FHR and 3090, depending on my mood as I mine on the side. Having said that because I have an MSI B450I build, the 5600x was perfect for me, but had I gotten a better motherboard then I would obviously upgrade to 5800x or even 5900x to fully utilize my gaming and multitasking experience.
I usually build a new system every 5 years, so it's time. I currently run an i7 6700k with a 1080Ti. Not wanting to finance a full- blown Alder Lake system, I'm considering an i7 12700k/DDR4 system and using my EVGA 1080Ti Black. Run a variable refresh rate 27" 1440p monitor w/Gysnc. Play mostly racing Sims and Fallout 4. Will retain my Thermaltake Core X9 case and drives. Will get a new AIO cpu cooler and possibly a new power supply (current PS is an EVGA 1000P2). Should I trust my current PS (never had any issues) that has 5 years of remaining warranty or get a new one? Will the 1080Ti run OK with Alder Lake? Will upgrade the GPU when the market settles. Thanks Fair winds and following seas to all.
If you doing 4-5 year upgrades you might as well get ddr5 board and ram. Boards aren’t really any more expensive just the ram. Otherwise you’d want to upgrade your mb and ram sooner
Agreed if you are going Alder Lake go DDR5. Your 1080ti will be fine, but I would probably look at the Newegg Shuffle or buying when new cards launch as you will be somewhat disappointed with the other upgrades. The market has stabilized we are going to be paying $1200-2000 for a decent GPU for the foreseeable future.
@@GySgt_USMC_Ret. ddr4 definitely better value. I’m going for a 5900x my self after the bit disappointing testing of 12900k. Just runs too hot and uses serious amount of power. Need 360mm aoi basically. But yeah I intend on upgrading to zen 4 or 5 soon after so I’m not worried about ddr4 for now
so i have a weird predicament. Dual Monitors: Main-1080p 240Hz 27in, Secondary: 1440p 75Hz 27in Ryzen 3700x MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 3080 (traded my asus strix 1080ti SLI cards for it) 16Gb Corsair vengeance 3600Mhz Asus Prime x570-pro and i just upgraded to a 850W gold corsair PSU from a 700W bronze PSU to try to fix this issue. similar to the original question. but my FPS varies wildly between different games and can even change from power cycle to power cycle BUT the GPU usage stays low in the majority of the games. CPU usage stays low as well, rarely ever goes over 50%. RS:siege gets amazing FPS (280-350fps) BUT most of my other games get poor FPS for the setup. Fortnite gets 120(max)-150(high)FPS, PUBG gets 90-120fps, Mordhau gets 115fps average, Ready or not gets 90average, and its a similar story for many other games as well. Siege is basically the only one that gets decent FPS I have a few things im going to change and add on to see if it fixes it until i can afford to get a High Hz 1440p monitor or a 5950x, but i at least want higher FPS in 1080p to enjoy my high Hz 1080p monitor loll. Im really just wondering if theres ANYTHING i can do to get better usage from the 3080 to at least push a bit more FPS in 1080p without dumping some money yet. With both the CPU and GPU usage so low, i just cant see how its chugging along at 90-120fps in 1080p games so often. (can be pretty stuttery too, not sure what lows look like though) any advice would be appreciated...
I have a AMD 3700X CPU, with 16 Megs of ram single monitor 1080P on a 144Hz high refresh monitor. My GPU is a RX580. I am considering a RX6700XT/6750XT as a GPU upgrade. Does this make sense? I mostly play games with light office work.
My system : MB: MSI B450 gaming plus max CPU: 3700x GPU: GTX 1070Ti RAM:(2x8) Patriot Viper Steel 16GB DDR4-3600MHz PSU: Be Quiet Pure Power 11 600W CM I guess I don't need to include the storage. How should I treat my 3700x , I just want the most performance I can get, and keep my CPU as long as possible, that means I guess no OC or maybe some oc, but I'd like to know should I have pbo on ? Is there another setting that I could use? ,The purpose of the build is general use and gaming, emulation for sure, I have a 1080p 60Hz monitor but I did enable dsr on the gpu to 4k so that's good, I don't think my gpu will handle 4k , I don't need 4k but it would be great , on emulation it's doesn't even sweat my gpu is at 60°C and my CPU is at 50°C
have 6900xt and 3700x i run everything on 4k and i was wondering if i would get a substantial performance boost if i upgraded my cpu at this resolution?
So I have a ryzen 7 3700x With 32 gb ram And a GeForce rtx 2070 super On a Asus rog strix b550-a gaming motherboard Is is worth it upgrading to a ryzen 7 5800x and a 3070 ti??
I got hpz620 with dual xeon e5-2680 and a 1060 3gb, what's the best GPU upgrade I can get the most out of? (before severe CPU bottleneck renders the GPU useless) , Thanks.
Watching this video on my i9 4790k, 16 gb ram and 1080ti with a 1080P TV. Looks like I need an upgrade but my wallet is saying no (its empty). Man that person setup is better than mine.
Get a 1080p monitor, that's a Big upgrade in clarity and quality. I did the 32in 1080p TV thing and gave up within a few days, went on eB and got a used 26in monitor. The difference is Massive both are Samsung
i hve a 3700x and 3070 and have a ultrawide 1440p and regular 1440p monitor, both 144hz. i plan on upgrading toa 5900x now that the prices have dropped drastically. unless the 5800x3d shows to actually perform better at that resolution in games.
I am stuck and idk if I should upgrade my Rzyen 7 3800X to a 9 5800X Other spec, AMD RX 5700 XT 64GB of ram 7TB mix of SDD and HDD Mix of Air cool and Aio cooled, with gpu external fan blower Corsair K100 keyboard Samsung 27in curve monitor Logitech G50 Gaming mouse
Question: I've held on for as long as I can with my i7 2600k (Z67 mobo) I cant decide between a 12700K or a 5900X? (buying a new PC excl. GFX-card) I play games and do a fair amount of Photoshop + some vid editing. (1080p) I plan to get a high end 4k monitor and next gen GFX-card when they launch, late next year or whatever. I don't wanna sacrifice FPS for resolution so this level of CPU i feel is good to have for the next 3-5 years.
At 4k or even 1440 you'd see little to no difference between a 5900x & 12700k in gaming, but the 12700k is faster, cheaper, ddr5 capable. In my opinion the choice is simple.
I can attest to what they are saying. I got an i7 7700k, and a rx 6900 xt. I play on one monitor, I don’t stream and I play at 4K. The experience is a bit of an oof. Total f in the chat. For the most part it’s playable but some times the frame rate jumps and plummets like crazy, making the experience laggy. I’m going to sap to the latest i9 or next amd cpu to get a smoother frame rate.
I'm having this struggle as well. I currently have a Ryzen 7 3700X with a 2070 Super and play 4K on a 4K 60Hz monitor with 32GBs RAM (and have a 760 Watts PSU) and can play fine on Ultra for what it is normally, but the FPS drop tremendously if I enable Ray-Tracing, for example, in Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm wondering if getting a new GPU (3060 or 3070 ti or not) would help, or if I would need to replace my CPU too.
I swaped my 3700x for a 5600. I wanted better 1-2-4-6 cores speeds. I didn't care loosing 5%-10% power in 100% CPU usage situations. The gain is about 20%, in 1-2-4-6 cores situations. It does feels snapier, especially with heavy actions, like opening DaVinci Resolve. The 5600 cost me 200$ CAN with taxes. I sold the 3700x for 160$ CAN. I think it is worth it.
i have a 3700x on an x570 with a 2080 and I've been gaming in 4k effortlessly for the last 4 years, but i just picked up a 3090 so while I'm at it I'm thinking of upgrading to a 5800 or even 5900x because they're practically giving them away atm but i just can't decide. do i even need to upgrade the cpu? I'm also planning to go from 16bg to 32gb ram?!! thanks!
I have the 3700X and a 6700XT and want to upgrade my CPU for higher FPS and resolution. Am I already GPU bound if I were to go with a 5800X3D or 5700X for GPU games? I know I can sell the 6700XT and 3700x used and maybe get the 6800XT if that's good enough to pair with a 5700X or 5800X3D. I have a 4k 144hz monitor I got for very cheap $350 and of course I'm not planning on trying to run 4k even but 1440p 100 fps maybe with some custom settings.
most games tend to be gpu bound so id say no, the 3700x is not holding you back. i have a 3700x and i mostly keep the clock locked at 3.8ghz to keep the fan cooler quiet and i play games at 1440p on a rtx 2060 and my games run just fine.
Hi Tech I have a 5600X, with 32GB of ram paired with Strix 3070ti, I play at 1080p and mostly play Scum and Total War Warhammer II and will be playing Warhammer III once it releases, I'm also planning on getting a 144hz 1440p monitor would this be enough?
I have a 3700X with an X370 motherboard and I just found out there is a 5700X, which fits my ASUS "X370-A Prime" motherboard. In Destiny 2 - for example - at 1080p, my 3700X + 3070ti gives me some 144 fps (I believe). As a funny comparison, my RX560 gave me about 40 fps :) I might just get a 5700X...
But this is demonstrated to be false at this point for 'just' gaming. The variance at 4K is 0 with most games between Zen+ to Zen 3!!! The increase in frame rate is less than marginal. At 1440p the difference between Zen 2 and Zen 3 is 7% to 12% with a few outliers. Lower latency memory can make some of that back on Ryzen. I don't see the point in buying Zen 3 for that level of improvement. With the changes on the way with 5nm, DDR5 and Zen 3 having 0 upgrade path. What's the point of wasting the money during a chip shortage. Generally you wait a generation before updating your CPU and in this case it would be sensible to avoid paying out on a new motherboard, memory and cooler twice, because the CPU sockets are changing. At 1080p competitive there would be a point but at 4K and even 1440p more often than not your still GPU limited not CPU limited more often than not.
Just wait for Ryzen 3D V-cache chips early next year and get the 16 core sku, this will be the last gen on AM4 giving you the best upgrade possible on the platform.
So i went from a 5700 to a 6800 on a 3700X. Every game I play is CPU bottlenecked at 1440p. I play at 120hz and generally have no issues except for older games (Haven't played AAA blockbusters in ages) that are single core speed dominated or have some sort of server issues. Honestly, so many games just don't like 1% lows that remain high, and no matter what the gulf between my average and the noticeable dips is just not worth a $500+ upgrade to improve by a dozen frames.
Man I’ve been troubled about upgrading my cpu. I have a 5800x and contemplating on upgrading to a 5950x. When the pc was build they weren’t available. I sim race on 3 monitors at 1440p 170z. I’m I missing out? Samsung 980 PCIE 4.0 1TB AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Asus ROG STRIX X570-E CORSAIR 850W PSU. G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB Lian Li 011 Dynamic case Master Cooler ML360R ROG STRIX LC 3080TI
Couldn't agree more. The difference between the 5800x and the 5950x isn't worth the upgrade. Especially when you can buy the 5800x right now for 360 new, so there's not a huge incentive to even sell and upgrade to an 800 dollar 5950x. Sure the 5950x better, but it's not 440 dollars better. Like tech said. That's an awesome pc and only upgrade it when it isn't serving your needs.👍👍
I wouldn't spend to much on AM4 its probably only good for 4000 and amd whatever GPUs i'd go 5900x and then upgrade most of the rig when you need pcie 5/6 but im keeping my m.2's as most new boards have 4-5 m.2 slots
I may do the same thing and upgrade my graphics card from a 3060 to 3080 founders edition I am trading a buddy of mine.. I have MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK motherboard AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core will have 3080 FE i have an LG 27 inch 165 hz I play call of duty and warzone and thats pretty much it
@@dartuno well if it dips below $300 there really isn't a better upgrade for the money. With exception to a 5900x at $300. But as far as I know it isn't at that price.
For anyone looking in 2023 and looking to keep their AM4s 5800x3d is your answer I went from sub 300 fps in cs2 to sometimes hitting as high as 550 fps Enjoy!
I would really love to know what hardware I need to buy (as low a budget as possible that will hold for the next 3-4 years) to play 1440p CSGO (LOW GRAPHIC SETTINGS) on a 240 hz or even 280 hz monitor without any FPS issues WHAT SO EVER. It needs to be running +300 fps at all times... Anyone got an idea what I need? I am an old serious CS gamer and atm. playing on 4690k with 1333hz ram and gtx960, pushing 1080p with 144hz and +160 fps but the game keeps freezing for 0,5 seconds every 20 seconds or when ever I encounter an enemy, like a short lagg, it's really killing my performance.
@@mersaci I fixed the problem with a 4790k, still using my RTX960 and running 300-450 fps with no stutter, so not spending money on GPU just yet. But if I would buy a new GPU it's going to be the RTX 3070.
@@orion9k Yeah me too but not for $400-500 and the price is not coming down I can find the rx6900xt for the same price as the 3070. I am a miner and I hunt deals daily and the 5700xt for under $150 is great I got a few under $100 even a 2060 Super for $95 shipped
Very eye opening video. Have a very similar system to the person asking the question (32GB ram, 3800x, 3090) and have been debating wether I should go for a new Ryzen 9. It runs well and I should probably leave it alone but knowing I can drop it into my B550 board is very tempting. Gonna see how my current system handles Forza Horizon 5 or Halo Infinite and then make a decision.
I love this channel. Tech and Rogue always have that really “practical” approach to builds. You can still ball out on your rig, but run at lower settings to maximize your fps. It isn’t all about benchmarks and ultra graphics.
They're just wonderful!!! PC Builder is also good as well, he takes a level headed practical approach. My 2 fave channels and they hit that sweet spot of 10-15 mins per vid.
Every time I have questions in a build they get answered here. Truly a gem in the space. Bless.
I went from a 1070 and a 2600 with 16gig ram on 2 screens to a 3080 and a 5800x and 32gig ram. Feels like I entered a new world of performance
the 3080 was the reason why it was a new world of performance
Nice 👍
@@kirbyrules55 mostly yea haha. But I've noticed so many nice things about upgrading my cpu, use to get so much weird stutter when i had multiple things going which have completly disappeared
lol it's wicked eh? i went from an FX-8350 with a 980ti to a 3700x and a 2080ti and it wasn't even comparable! eve6rything played so smooth and seamless it was amazing. it's starting to stutter a bit in games that it really shouldn't do now so I'm looking to upgrade again lol
gaming 1440 @ 144hz with a x370 mobo and 3700xt. you just earned yourself a subscriber. you guys are awesome for going over this with examples of avg (edit: i meant to say median) framerate, and different variations of setups. you cut through the bs, and i respect that. thank you.
i was gaming with a 3700x and a 3060. switched to a 6900xt and was getting 160 fps in warzone. then upgraded to a 5900x and now get 220-240 solid. 1440p as well. the 3700x was absolutely holding it back. and the frames were jumping up and down way too much with the 3700x and its pretty damn stable now.
Thank you! I Have a 3700x and was pairing it with a RX 5700XT. I also got a RX 6900XT in the meantime and I have this feeling, that my 1% lows are caused by my 3700X. I just don't know if a Ryzen 7 5800X will be enough or if I should bite the bullet and go for a 5900X.
@@greengamer2200 did you ever upgrade? I’m getting my hands on a 6900xt and wondering would a 5800x be ok.
@@BossMaynKt i did buy a 5900x. No regrets. The 1% lows are indeed way smoother. But what I did is limiting my frames in every game which my system handles 95% of the time. Now I have constant and perfect frame pacing. Basically the dream.
i am in the exact....same....scenario. 3700x with a 6900xt on the way. i may want to wait for the 7000 series to go down in price. my plan is to possibly upgrade to the 7000 when prices stabilize, and keep the 6900xt. i am a little unconfident with my decision however....enough to ask, what do you think? keep the 5700xt and upgrade to a 5800x or 5900x, or get the 6900xt card now and wait for the 7000 series? i am running a aorus x370, 16 gb 3200 ram.
@@cmsmith2142 How did it go with the 3700x and 6900xt in the end? What happens is that I have my 3700x and I'm going to buy a 6950xt, I only play on a tv at 60hz 4K, I don't need anything more than 60 fps and ultra or high graphics. In your experience, do you think it works well or will there be a bottleneck that does not allow this configuration?
The way you take the time to explain things so that everyone can relate is impeccable to say the least. YOU gave me the information and confidence to update my AsRock PG4 X570 bios. I'm subbed now, your content is invaluable and needs to be shared.
i was thinking the exact same thing. they know their stuff and dont hold back. i love it.
My brother got a 3070, still had the 3700x and we decided to upgrade it to a 5800x. In black desert online we were able to get 144 fps when he used to get around 100. we gave the 3700x to my other brother who had a 1700. Didn't upgrade the motherboards but everything worked without issue
I'm thinking of grabbing 5800x to upgrade from my 3700x. Is it worth it?
@@ashouaxiong1404 greatly depends on the game you are playing. My brother did it because of Black Desert Online, any other game was able to reach 144 fps just fine.
I went from a 3700x, R5700 and 32gb of ram to a 5900X, R6800XT and 64gb of ram. Quite and upgrade and performance boost.
In games almost all of it is due to the R6800XT. Cpu less effect and ram even less to a wash. But its a nice to have just in case.
Well the 3070 was the best upgrade I could get for my 8700k with no cpu bottleneck at 1440p. I’m waiting for 2nd gen DDR5 to upgrade 👍🏻
@@MGB2408 9900k’s are running about $300. At this point, might as well wait til 13th gen comes out 🤷🏻♂️
I upgraded from a 3700x to a 5800x and I noticed a huge difference in 1% lows and stability
In have a 3080ti and Im complete happy with my 8 core 5800x
@nomasporfavor Same 3700x with 3070 I’ll wait for next gen amd mainly fps and gaming only
Hi tech . Thanks for the gr8 videos. I recently upgraded my RX 5700 XT to a 3080ti. I'm still on a b450 MB and have a ryzen 7 3700x on it with 32gigs ram . 850w power supply and a m.2 storage. I didn't wane upgraded the pc all together because next gen is around the corner but must say , I knw my 3700x is holding me back for now but I'm a quiet big COD player and my medium fps is like 180 fps and I'm playing on a Samsung odyssey g7 240hz at 1440p and my system is Smooth. Withe the RX 5700XT my medium fps was around 90 to 100 fps . So it's a nice upgraded for me and can't wait to pair next cps with the 3080ti . Thanx again for all you advice
What's your GPU load with the 3080Ti playing COD at 1440p?
I'm currently playing vanguard at 200 to 220 fps cpu utilization 39% and gpu utilization 92%
@@jackal4672 If you're at 92% GPU utilization there's not much room for improvement with a CPU upgrade. That doesn't mean you shouldn't upgrade to a better CPU for other tasks and general PC smoothness.
I have a 3700x as well and I'm waiting for Ryzen 6000 series with 3D V-cache early next year and will upgrade then since it will be the last gen on AM4 platform.
Yea thats my plan aswell but will see 👍👍
@@clearlight293 Well, are you sure Ryzen 6k series will be on AM4 ? ^
I got a 3900x with a RTX 3080. My monitor is an Ultrawide 3840 x 1600 resolution at 144 hz
If I was playing at 1080p or 1440p, I would change my CPU because the fps jump is significant.
But at almost 4k I don't see the difference even in the 1% low
Not necessarily, a 3900x should be good no matter the load... you'd experience a 5% increase at most
I have a 3700x with 3080ti and I'm sure I can get like 5% more performance upgrading to a 5900x playing games at 4K but don't think its worth it. Rather build an entire new PC when I do upgrade
Yeah not worth the money
I upgraded from 3700x to a 5900x and I'm in a small form factor build with a tiny cooler and the 5900x is much better than the 3700x. It runs faster and cooler with four more cores on the same cooler. Went from a 5700xt to 6900xt. Also a huge upgrade. Your 3080ti would probably love it.
@@DirtySoap I’m considering going from 3700x to a 5900x. Have a 3070 gpu
@@tyhank453 3700x is still a great CPU but definitely wanted a bit more for my form factor and cooler. Now I'm basically at the limit. 3700x couldn't even reach stock boosts on my low profile cooler and sfx case while the 5900x does, which is faster IPC, less latency, and 50% more cores. I definitely noticed everything is smoother but I also upgraded my ram from 32GB 3200 to 64GB 4000 and GPU from 5700xt to 6900xt. So hard to say if you'll have the same wow factor from the upgrade unless what you're doing likes more cores. I tried my 3700x with a 3060ti over the 5700xt and the 3060ti improved performance pretty drastically on its own.
@@DirtySoap Thanks for the info. I only game but the games I play are normally cpu heavy. I’ve wondered if my 3700x bottlenecks my 3070 gpu. I also just have 16 gb ddr4 ram at 3200. I’ve had my pc about 2 years. Bought pre built and don’t know a ton but I’ve been doing a lot of research trying to learn more so I greatly appreciate the info!
A very detailed explanation...thank you so much....community can avoid thinking twice bout some upgrade issues...you guys rock....🔥🔥😘
Pour le moment le 3700X est clairement assez puissant ... et le 3700X a un excellent rapport perf/watts
Running a 3700X on a X570 board with a RTX 3080 and 2x8GB 3600CL18, and I game on 1660p 165Hz. Gaming is "very good" and that may sound like downplaying performance, but I've found the experience to be exceptionally good even if I don't hit 165+Hz. Games are silky smooth, and I can multitask as I run a second 4K screen on the side. Bang for buck, the Ryzen 3700X is still a beast of a chip.
I have a 3700X + X570 motherboard with an RX 6800XT and 32GB of 3600CL16 RAM. Gaming usually is pretty smooth, but I do have those frame rate dips that really annoy me. However, this CPU was always meant to be a starter CPU for my AM4 build - it has been a good purchase. But to fix the frame rate dips, I feel like upgrading to a 5000-series CPU would help. 5800X3D would be the obvious choice, but the price is pretty high.
@@EFerrorfile Did you ever make the upgrade?
@@kemari47 Not yet. Still feeling like I should, but I'm saving up for some speaker purchases that apparently are my first priority. 😅 Was also waiting if I should go for AM5 or whatever Intel's new socket was, but so far I'm keeping this platform - will upgrade the CPU, though.
@@EFerrorfile makes sense
I've got a 5900x with my 3090 but I only game. If I were to upgrade from something like this dude, I would probably be getting a 12700 or 12900 right now
He is already on AM4 platform. If he can install Ryzen 5000 cpu in his motherboard there is no need to upgrade to Intel. Gaming performance will be comparable. Intel 13th and 14th generation will be real upgrade.
I happen to get a 3080ti for MSRP at one of the best buy drops. Was curious of what I should upgrade to.
For gaming at that level, 8-Cores is Optimal, before small IPC gains will matter more. Gamers in 2019 would of spent $700-800 on a 3950x and within 15 months a $280 11600k matches in gaming as the extra 6-8 cores mostly sit idle
Depending what you currently have, a used 10850k is nice, good value, or a used 11700k unpopular but therefore great value, and can perform better for Less in games and General computing. Anything beyond is gonna Jump in Cost for a single percentage difference, outside workload
Or wait for 6 months, for better Alder Lake support, then go 12600 12700
Even I had exact same question! Thanks fantastic video!
Still relavent information. Love your approach to tech information. I subscribed. Now a fan for life. Great job.
I love me an rx 3080ti. But an rtx 6900xt also seems nice
Oh, I just thinking about upgrading my own 3700x. Also not sure if I even need what. Got b450 tomahawk V1.0, 32gb CL 18, 3070TI... Using two monitors 1080p 144hz + 60 hz playing kinda competitive games, besides gaming using OBS, blender, davinci and photoshop...
Prices of 5900x and 5950x are 345 and 525 USD in my region, respectively. I owned a 3700x + 2070S and have a dual monitor setup (a 2k 165Hz plus a 515x1920 sensor monitor). Upgrading to a 5950x is giving me better 1% low in games like Elden Ring and Froza Horizon. My computer is perceivably less laggy in multiple situations (both in game and in daily uses). And now I'am good with my setup and waiting for a GPU upgrade.
Thank you for your advice, Sir.
do u think I need an upgrade? 3700x, 3060, ddual monitor, gaming one is 240hz 1080p, competitive titles low settings. looking to utilize the 240hZ
@@batmansteel778 If it is 1080p then upgrading a 3700x should boost the fps more than that in my case. But I am not sure whether that money should be put on GPU rather if your primary goal is to get the max fps.
Nonetheless, I think it worths your time to at least wait for Ryzen Zen4 releases, possibly for RDNA3 releases as well. You may also consider selling you cpu and mobo to switch to intel 12th/13th gen depending on your budget and use case.
@@batmansteel778 What was your decision, you upgrading your graphics card or cpu?
Similar setup to yours. Sporting a 240 1440p instead of dual monitors and really itching to switch to a 5900x
@@kemari47 I upgraded my CPU from 3700X to 5950X back in September, and I’ve recently upgraded my 2070S to 4090.
Just upgraded to a 4070 from a 2060. Currently have a 3700x, tempted to upgrade
Great video...still debating on switching due to my recent upgrade to a 6900xt. Currently, I have a b450i, 3700x, with a 32" 165hz. Games I plays are like Apex, Icarus, valorant. Fps type of games.
EDIT: Figured out that having Ryzen Master installed was causing the bsod. Latest bios is stable now and I have a 5900x coming today. If you see no further update it was a success.
EDIT 2: Turns out my 3700x is NOT compatible with the most current update. It works fine with the 5900x... after clean install.
I have a 3700x/3060ti on a MSI B450M Bazooka motherboard and I wanted to upgrade to a 5900x because I have been playing games at 120hz more often. When I am only gaming, the 3700x is rock solid, but if I have all my software going I will notice small dips below 120 in certain games. So before buying the 5900x I tested the recent bios update that supports 5000x series and I was unable to run my ram above 2133mhz without getting bsod after sign in. So I am gonna hold off on upgrading until I see what 8000x series has to offer. Lucky I was able to rollback bios and everything was normal again.
what's better for just pure gaming(while having discord steam open and using chrome also) 5600x or a 3700x
For this kind of little improvement is more like a tire replacement on a already Lexus car. Dont expect huge difference in any case.
as a Ryzen 3700X owner if your only planning to get an RTX3070 and stick with that GPU for a good long while and you only play in 1440P then your good but you ever plan to get a better GPU then upgrading would be a must as there will be a lot more games that will bottleneck with that CPU. I am even already seeing that with my RTX2070 Super in some games.
i own 3700x since 2019 , have 6700xt and now upgade to 6900xt for 1440p same cpu
This is what I get for dilly dallying with my build (I.e., not having time to build and transition to a new system, I.e., procrastination galore). I see a video about advice on what to upgrade to from a 3700X while I am upgrading TO a 3700X. Sigh. (OTOH, I sure got my moneys worth from my Phenom II !)
I made the mistake of opening an email from Newegg saying I'd 'won' the shuffle...if by winning they meant 'buying' a Gigabyte 3090 and Gigabyte z590 extreme....I had like 5 min. to decide, and since I did have a 4k monitor still in the box I shelled out the coin....I have a i9 11900kf on order and still looking for the memory.
I know the video is old but I have to day it for anyone watching.
Taking the median fps is not a good move because you can have a spike in fps and suddenly, the median also moves up. Also, medians do not mean that 50% of data is high or lower, it just means that the middle of the provided range is the median e.g. low is 30 and high is 90 and so 60 is the median but your average is 42 which means that more often than not, you'll have 42 fps which likely means over half the fps is below the median
What is the best upgrade cpu for a 2700x on 470X board, 32 ram, rtx2060, 1080p 165 hz 32" wide screen, all ssd / nvme drives? Play majority games with little multitasking or things like video editing. Or should I just go for a GPU upgrade. Not playing super high end AAA games that much anymore. Play mostly multi-player games like Rust, POE, Valheim, destiny 2...etc and single player like GTA, doom, dying light, fallout series etc. Or should I just keep current setup with no change and put my money someplace else like networking and home server? Budget would be 800 to 900 for both cpu and gpu. Could flex a bit more if price vs performance worth the value.
Love the content. You guys have a great dynamic.
I'm keeping my 2070 Super (no money to upgrade), but I did order the 5800x3D (big discount on amazon) to upgrade my 3700x.
Asus X570 e-gaming, 32gb 3600mhz, AIO cooling.
Triple monitor 1080p 144hz, playing Elite Dangerous and Flight / Race Simulators, all other games single screen 1080p.
My CPU holds on 40% load and 75% GPU load hitting 50 FPS in Elite Dangerous. -> So I think (hope) CPU bottleneck that is going to be resolved by upgrading the CPU.
Hey man, Can you give me your feedback about this upgrade ? I would like to do the same but i'm not sure
@@coco_bedo314 No joking, but this was my best and profound update ever.
Just switching the CPU out I hit 175 FPS easily now with 98% load on GPU and 35% load on CPU in Elite Dangerous.
A world of difference for high detailed and demanding games that are badly optimized.
My goal is achieved , but all the games benefit from this upgrade, my FPS rate is much higher now, and much smoother gaming.
I have 3900x on board x470 and 64gb 3200 ram with 3080ti
Do I need to upgrade to 5950x or not ?
Im upgrading from 3700x to 5900x, i was wondering if it was worth it. Now i realize i use an odessy G9 suoer uktrawide and always multitaskXD
imho when it comes to gaming, our monitor specs and games we play should define the word "bottleneck" for cpu and gpu pairing. 4k 60hz vs 1440p 144hz, AAA vs esport titles.
5800 to 5800X
How bad is my 9900k bottlenecking my 3080ti? Not overclocked. 1440P non ultrawide at 170 hertz. 64 GB of DDR4 3600 with XMP enabled. I have one monitor and I generally play with the settings cranked and ray tracing on if available. 240mm Bequiet Liquid AIO CPU cooler. I play newer-ish games.
You'll know if it's a bottleneck by looking at your OSD, depending on what games you're playing.
@@pocpc1788 I use MSI after burner to monitor stats. What should I be looking for a specifically?
@@samael1981 GPU usage, make sure it's mostly at 90+.
@@samael1981 you will always want your video card to be the bottleneck, look for GPU usages, make sure its around 90% or more.
@@pocpc1788 in The Ascent it hovers all over the place. Sometimes 99 percent. Other times 60ish. Frame times are garbage during intense action. Not sure if the game is just buggy or the 9900k is showing its age.
I have a Ryzen 5 5600g cpu and RX 6600 gpu with 32gb ram. I run 2 monitors at 1080p and 144hz. I like to stream mainly fortnite at up to 1080p. I want to upgrade either my cpu or gpu first. Which should I do first to improve streaming and gaming on my single pc?
I traded my 6 months old Ryzen 7 3700x to a new and sealed Ryzen 5 5600x straight up from FB market and I do have a better gaming experience even with two asus 27 inch 1440p monitors . Now my cards varies from 6800xt to 3080 FHR and 3090, depending on my mood as I mine on the side. Having said that because I have an MSI B450I build, the 5600x was perfect for me, but had I gotten a better motherboard then I would obviously upgrade to 5800x or even 5900x to fully utilize my gaming and multitasking experience.
I just upgraded to the 5600x from 3700x for VR. With a 2070super. Just firing it up
@@br4nd0n79 super late but how was it for VR?
I usually build a new system every 5 years, so it's time. I currently run an i7 6700k with a 1080Ti. Not wanting to finance a full- blown Alder Lake system, I'm considering an i7 12700k/DDR4 system and using my EVGA 1080Ti Black. Run a variable refresh rate 27" 1440p monitor w/Gysnc. Play mostly racing Sims and Fallout 4. Will retain my Thermaltake Core X9 case and drives. Will get a new AIO cpu cooler and possibly a new power supply (current PS is an EVGA 1000P2). Should I trust my current PS (never had any issues) that has 5 years of remaining warranty or get a new one? Will the 1080Ti run OK with Alder Lake? Will upgrade the GPU when the market settles. Thanks
Fair winds and following seas to all.
If you doing 4-5 year upgrades you might as well get ddr5 board and ram. Boards aren’t really any more expensive just the ram. Otherwise you’d want to upgrade your mb and ram sooner
Agreed if you are going Alder Lake go DDR5. Your 1080ti will be fine, but I would probably look at the Newegg Shuffle or buying when new cards launch as you will be somewhat disappointed with the other upgrades. The market has stabilized we are going to be paying $1200-2000 for a decent GPU for the foreseeable future.
@@MegaUnavailableusern Thanks for the input.
@@maxstueven1965 Thanks for the input.
@@GySgt_USMC_Ret. ddr4 definitely better value. I’m going for a 5900x my self after the bit disappointing testing of 12900k. Just runs too hot and uses serious amount of power. Need 360mm aoi basically. But yeah I intend on upgrading to zen 4 or 5 soon after so I’m not worried about ddr4 for now
I'm looking to upgrade my 3700x next year, deciding between the 5800x3d or 3900x? 🤔
so i have a weird predicament.
Dual Monitors: Main-1080p 240Hz 27in, Secondary: 1440p 75Hz 27in
Ryzen 3700x
MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 3080 (traded my asus strix 1080ti SLI cards for it)
16Gb Corsair vengeance 3600Mhz
Asus Prime x570-pro
and i just upgraded to a 850W gold corsair PSU from a 700W bronze PSU to try to fix this issue.
similar to the original question. but my FPS varies wildly between different games and can even change from power cycle to power cycle BUT the GPU usage stays low in the majority of the games. CPU usage stays low as well, rarely ever goes over 50%. RS:siege gets amazing FPS (280-350fps) BUT most of my other games get poor FPS for the setup. Fortnite gets 120(max)-150(high)FPS, PUBG gets 90-120fps, Mordhau gets 115fps average, Ready or not gets 90average, and its a similar story for many other games as well. Siege is basically the only one that gets decent FPS
I have a few things im going to change and add on to see if it fixes it until i can afford to get a High Hz 1440p monitor or a 5950x, but i at least want higher FPS in 1080p to enjoy my high Hz 1080p monitor loll. Im really just wondering if theres ANYTHING i can do to get better usage from the 3080 to at least push a bit more FPS in 1080p without dumping some money yet. With both the CPU and GPU usage so low, i just cant see how its chugging along at 90-120fps in 1080p games so often. (can be pretty stuttery too, not sure what lows look like though)
any advice would be appreciated...
So in 2023, going from a 3700x, should I go for more cores with a 5900x? or something brand new but lower core like a 7700x or 7800x
13700K is $365 right now…
Thanks guys!
I have a AMD 3700X CPU, with 16 Megs of ram single monitor 1080P on a 144Hz high refresh monitor. My GPU is a RX580. I am considering a RX6700XT/6750XT as a GPU upgrade. Does this make sense? I mostly play games with light office work.
very detailed and awsome critical explanation, ty Byte size tech.
My system :
MB: MSI B450 gaming plus max
CPU: 3700x
GPU: GTX 1070Ti
RAM:(2x8) Patriot Viper Steel 16GB DDR4-3600MHz
PSU: Be Quiet Pure Power 11 600W CM
I guess I don't need to include the storage. How should I treat my 3700x , I just want the most performance I can get, and keep my CPU as long as possible, that means I guess no OC or maybe some oc, but I'd like to know should I have pbo on ? Is there another setting that I could use? ,The purpose of the build is general use and gaming, emulation for sure, I have a 1080p 60Hz monitor but I did enable dsr on the gpu to 4k so that's good, I don't think my gpu will handle 4k , I don't need 4k but it would be great , on emulation it's doesn't even sweat my gpu is at 60°C and my CPU is at 50°C
have 6900xt and 3700x i run everything on 4k and i was wondering if i would get a substantial performance boost if i upgraded my cpu at this resolution?
No.
Would probably be worth it
@aidasvrubliauskas1837 I have exactly the same question. How are you doing with the RX 6900XT and the 3700x playing in 4K at 60hz? Does it work well?
So I have a ryzen 7 3700x
With 32 gb ram
And a GeForce rtx 2070 super
On a Asus rog strix b550-a gaming motherboard
Is is worth it upgrading to a ryzen 7 5800x and a 3070 ti??
what a great vod thanks fo the info my man
My 5800x runs flawlessly on my x470 Crosshair vii hero wifi.
I got hpz620 with dual xeon e5-2680 and a 1060 3gb, what's the best GPU upgrade I can get the most out of? (before severe CPU bottleneck renders the GPU useless) , Thanks.
that car analogy was kind of funny since Lexus' literally ARE fancy Toyotas
The new 12th Gen Intel will be amazing with RTX 3080Ti . Overall smooth system feel not just gaming along.
my friend has a 5900x with a 1660 16 gb ram 3600mhz speed
Watching this video on my i9 4790k, 16 gb ram and 1080ti with a 1080P TV. Looks like I need an upgrade but my wallet is saying no (its empty). Man that person setup is better than mine.
Get a 1080p monitor, that's a Big upgrade in clarity and quality. I did the 32in 1080p TV thing and gave up within a few days, went on eB and got a used 26in monitor. The difference is Massive both are Samsung
9:53 "no shit" -Takumi Fujiwara:
i hve a 3700x and 3070 and have a ultrawide 1440p and regular 1440p monitor, both 144hz. i plan on upgrading toa 5900x now that the prices have dropped drastically. unless the 5800x3d shows to actually perform better at that resolution in games.
I am stuck and idk if I should upgrade my Rzyen 7 3800X to a 9 5800X
Other spec,
AMD RX 5700 XT
64GB of ram
7TB mix of SDD and HDD
Mix of Air cool and Aio cooled, with gpu external fan blower
Corsair K100 keyboard
Samsung 27in curve monitor
Logitech G50 Gaming mouse
Question:
I've held on for as long as I can with my i7 2600k (Z67 mobo)
I cant decide between a 12700K or a 5900X? (buying a new PC excl. GFX-card)
I play games and do a fair amount of Photoshop + some vid editing. (1080p)
I plan to get a high end 4k monitor and next gen GFX-card when they launch, late next year or whatever.
I don't wanna sacrifice FPS for resolution so this level of CPU i feel is good to have for the next 3-5 years.
At 4k or even 1440 you'd see little to no difference between a 5900x & 12700k in gaming, but the 12700k is faster, cheaper, ddr5 capable. In my opinion the choice is simple.
I can attest to what they are saying. I got an i7 7700k, and a rx 6900 xt. I play on one monitor, I don’t stream and I play at 4K. The experience is a bit of an oof. Total f in the chat. For the most part it’s playable but some times the frame rate jumps and plummets like crazy, making the experience laggy. I’m going to sap to the latest i9 or next amd cpu to get a smoother frame rate.
Or if he can hold out for 3 months or so, Zen 3D?
I'm having this struggle as well.
I currently have a Ryzen 7 3700X with a 2070 Super and play 4K on a 4K 60Hz monitor with 32GBs RAM (and have a 760 Watts PSU) and can play fine on Ultra for what it is normally, but the FPS drop tremendously if I enable Ray-Tracing, for example, in Guardians of the Galaxy.
I'm wondering if getting a new GPU (3060 or 3070 ti or not) would help, or if I would need to replace my CPU too.
It is the GPU. Id recommend jumping to 3070ti/3080 for 4k.
I have a rog strix 3070ti with a 3700x at 1440p 144hz , x570 pro4 and i play warzone ( cpu intensive game) would a 5800x give me more frames
I’m on an RTX 2070 but upgraded to 5950X anyways and noticed a difference in my gaming experience with 1440p 144hz monitor
I swaped my 3700x for a 5600. I wanted better 1-2-4-6 cores speeds. I didn't care loosing 5%-10% power in 100% CPU usage situations. The gain is about 20%, in 1-2-4-6 cores situations. It does feels snapier, especially with heavy actions, like opening DaVinci Resolve.
The 5600 cost me 200$ CAN with taxes. I sold the 3700x for 160$ CAN. I think it is worth it.
i have a 3900x 3080 and i game in 5120x1440, should i upgrade to 12900k or wait for zen4/raptorlake?
i have a 3700x on an x570 with a 2080 and I've been gaming in 4k effortlessly for the last 4 years, but i just picked up a 3090 so while I'm at it I'm thinking of upgrading to a 5800 or even 5900x because they're practically giving them away atm but i just can't decide. do i even need to upgrade the cpu? I'm also planning to go from 16bg to 32gb ram?!! thanks!
Just get the 5800x3d bro
I have the 3700X and a 6700XT and want to upgrade my CPU for higher FPS and resolution. Am I already GPU bound if I were to go with a 5800X3D or 5700X for GPU games? I know I can sell the 6700XT and 3700x used and maybe get the 6800XT if that's good enough to pair with a 5700X or 5800X3D. I have a 4k 144hz monitor I got for very cheap $350 and of course I'm not planning on trying to run 4k even but 1440p 100 fps maybe with some custom settings.
i can get a 5800 for 250 second hand or do i splash on the 58003dx coming from a 3700x
I'd love one of those AMD cards. 😆
What about a ryzen 7 2700 non x? I was thinking 0f a 5800x
I literally just did the exact same thing lmao EXACT spec change this is so funny
You only need an upgrade if you game at 1080p or 1440p monitor with 144hz and up.
most games tend to be gpu bound so id say no, the 3700x is not holding you back. i have a 3700x and i mostly keep the clock locked at 3.8ghz to keep the fan cooler quiet and i play games at 1440p on a rtx 2060 and my games run just fine.
This has answered my exact question.
Hi Tech I have a 5600X, with 32GB of ram paired with Strix 3070ti, I play at 1080p and mostly play Scum and Total War Warhammer II and will be playing Warhammer III once it releases, I'm also planning on getting a 144hz 1440p monitor would this be enough?
Duh...
@@Rohgamu what? that's a serious question.
Yes more than enough
@@classicdufferin8739 Thanks!
I have a 3700X with an X370 motherboard and I just found out there is a 5700X, which fits my ASUS "X370-A Prime" motherboard.
In Destiny 2 - for example - at 1080p, my 3700X + 3070ti gives me some 144 fps (I believe). As a funny comparison, my RX560 gave me about 40 fps :)
I might just get a 5700X...
But this is demonstrated to be false at this point for 'just' gaming. The variance at 4K is 0 with most games between Zen+ to Zen 3!!! The increase in frame rate is less than marginal. At 1440p the difference between Zen 2 and Zen 3 is 7% to 12% with a few outliers. Lower latency memory can make some of that back on Ryzen. I don't see the point in buying Zen 3 for that level of improvement. With the changes on the way with 5nm, DDR5 and Zen 3 having 0 upgrade path. What's the point of wasting the money during a chip shortage. Generally you wait a generation before updating your CPU and in this case it would be sensible to avoid paying out on a new motherboard, memory and cooler twice, because the CPU sockets are changing. At 1080p competitive there would be a point but at 4K and even 1440p more often than not your still GPU limited not CPU limited more often than not.
Thanks again for the Answer.. Love you guys :)
Just wait for Ryzen 3D V-cache chips early next year and get the 16 core sku, this will be the last gen on AM4 giving you the best upgrade possible on the platform.
Bravo for calling out average framerate as a flawed performance metric.
So i went from a 5700 to a 6800 on a 3700X. Every game I play is CPU bottlenecked at 1440p. I play at 120hz and generally have no issues except for older games (Haven't played AAA blockbusters in ages) that are single core speed dominated or have some sort of server issues. Honestly, so many games just don't like 1% lows that remain high, and no matter what the gulf between my average and the noticeable dips is just not worth a $500+ upgrade to improve by a dozen frames.
"Every game I play is CPU bottlenecked at 1440p" CPU or GPU?
I am using i5 8400 with rtx 3080. I can easily do 4k@60fps in most games.
Man I’ve been troubled about upgrading my cpu. I have a 5800x and contemplating on upgrading to a 5950x. When the pc was build they weren’t available. I sim race on 3 monitors at 1440p 170z. I’m I missing out?
Samsung 980 PCIE 4.0 1TB
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Asus ROG STRIX X570-E
CORSAIR 850W PSU.
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB
Lian Li 011 Dynamic case
Master Cooler ML360R
ROG STRIX LC 3080TI
Put FOMO on the shelf Peter. You have a rocking system! Only upgrade when your PC no longer serves your use case.
Couldn't agree more. The difference between the 5800x and the 5950x isn't worth the upgrade. Especially when you can buy the 5800x right now for 360 new, so there's not a huge incentive to even sell and upgrade to an 800 dollar 5950x. Sure the 5950x better, but it's not 440 dollars better. Like tech said. That's an awesome pc and only upgrade it when it isn't serving your needs.👍👍
Just ordered 12700k and already have the 3080 Ti
I wouldn't spend to much on AM4 its probably only good for 4000 and amd whatever GPUs i'd go 5900x and then upgrade most of the rig when you need pcie 5/6 but im keeping my m.2's as most new boards have 4-5 m.2 slots
I may do the same thing and upgrade my graphics card from a 3060 to 3080 founders edition I am trading a buddy of mine.. I have
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK motherboard
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core
will have 3080 FE
i have an LG 27 inch 165 hz
I play call of duty and warzone and thats pretty much it
3700x was my main cpu for a long time, then I just recently bought an upgrade for $200 CAD Ryzen 7 5800x.
Canadian prices are still crazy im trying to hold off till black friday to get a 5800x3d
@@dartuno well the 5800x dropped to $300-$360~
@@emerson-biggons7078 cheapest one i can find is $470 at Canada computers or $450 on newegg
@@emerson-biggons7078 but yeah 5800x i’m not sure if it’s worth the upgrade from a 3700x atm
@@dartuno well if it dips below $300 there really isn't a better upgrade for the money. With exception to a 5900x at $300. But as far as I know it isn't at that price.
For anyone looking in 2023 and looking to keep their AM4s
5800x3d is your answer
I went from sub 300 fps in cs2 to sometimes hitting as high as 550 fps
Enjoy!
You might want to take this down before you get sued by the SEC.
I wonder what y’all do full time
Tech Deals full time for over 5 years now !!!
@@ByteSizeTech niice you sell gpus?
I'll buy a 5900XT a few years later. I have a 3800XT now with a 2080 Super. GPU upgrade first.
So 2070 will bottleneck 5800x 😬🥺.?
I would really love to know what hardware I need to buy (as low a budget as possible that will hold for the next 3-4 years) to play 1440p CSGO (LOW GRAPHIC SETTINGS) on a 240 hz or even 280 hz monitor without any FPS issues WHAT SO EVER. It needs to be running +300 fps at all times... Anyone got an idea what I need?
I am an old serious CS gamer and atm. playing on 4690k with 1333hz ram and gtx960, pushing 1080p with 144hz and +160 fps but the game keeps freezing for 0,5 seconds every 20 seconds or when ever I encounter an enemy, like a short lagg, it's really killing my performance.
I know this is old but I would get the Rx 5700 xt under $150, b450 around $60 and a 5600 CPU and at least 16gb ram @3200mhz
@@mersaci I fixed the problem with a 4790k, still using my RTX960 and running 300-450 fps with no stutter, so not spending money on GPU just yet. But if I would buy a new GPU it's going to be the RTX 3070.
@@orion9k Yeah me too but not for $400-500 and the price is not coming down I can find the rx6900xt for the same price as the 3070. I am a miner and I hunt deals daily and the 5700xt for under $150 is great I got a few under $100 even a 2060 Super for $95 shipped
@@mersaci That's extremely cheap, here in Denmark a used 5700xt cost 250 dollars :O and a used rtx 3070 will cost 500 dollars in Denmark.
But Tech my LFA gets me to work 40% faster than my Corolla!
DROP THE 12900K review or we riot 👿xD
So refreshing to see a channel that speak like the rest of us, simple explanation of a everyday gamer pc.
Very eye opening video. Have a very similar system to the person asking the question (32GB ram, 3800x, 3090) and have been debating wether I should go for a new Ryzen 9. It runs well and I should probably leave it alone but knowing I can drop it into my B550 board is very tempting. Gonna see how my current system handles Forza Horizon 5 or Halo Infinite and then make a decision.
You'd be wasting your money. Skip a gen wait for 5nm 6000 series AMD.