Really liked your review. Tested the bike today and bought it. St Louis has some great technical gravel rides. Looking forward to taking it all over Missouri , Arizona , Florida and wherever the trails call me.
I ride a BMC Teamelite 01 Harttail which uses the MTT rear suspension sponge thingy and I like it a lot. It pretty much annihilates really rough cobblestone vibration and hits. To me its the perfect adventure Bike, and yes love me a real suspension fork.
I did a lot of searching before I switched from an old cyclocross bike to a gravel bike. To me, front suspension is required, rear is optional. I went with Lauf True Grit because of the no maintenance front suspension and what appeared to be the lowest unsprung weight. After that, everything was standard, unlike the BMC with a proprietary head tube. I was looking at the Grizl which was a close second. But Lauf had a better price/feature mix. I really don't understand why the True Grit so overlooked. Yes I'm a bit of a fanboy because it was exactly what I was expecting in a gravel bike.
Seriously looked at it when it first came out but decided against. Main issue was not enough tyre, or rather mud clearance for where I ride - great fun when dry, but clogging would really restricted where it could be ridden most of the year. New Seigla looks much more interesting.
@@siciunasK True Grit has been replaced by the Seigla which does look a lot better than the TG also supports 50mm tires instead of 45mm. It came out a couple months after my purchase. I looked at the Diverge but didn't want the proprietary headset that will need maintenance at some point. Plus everything below the headset is unsprung which is less desirable from a performance perspective. Lauf uses a pretty standard headset and only the wheel and carrier is unsprung and has a maintenance free suspension. A riding partner has a Diverge and is happy with it. So it's a viable alternative.
I do like the look of these but both models look to be about 2k too expensive in my opinion for the spec. You can get a similar spec’d GRIZL for 5k so why pay 7k for this?
I'm happy with the standard URS as a road bike - when fitted with road tyres - and its good as it is for smooth gravel ... anything more and I'd switch to a genuine MTB
I love riding my bicycle, I hate the sport and the industry...I should say, the market us as consumers have allowed to proliferate. What is the point? Who can afford this? It took me a literal decade to finally afford a mid/high end spec'd bike and even then I made some compromises.
I think it’s a really nice bike & a cool concept but not perfected yet. I could never deal with squeaky noises as I’m riding, not for that kind of $. For me at 60 I’m looking for a comfortable bike with some Cush to take the edge off, any suggestions?
MAKE SURE HOW MUCH SERVICING THE SUSPENSION REQUIRES AND IF YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO DO IT. it might be a pain in the ass which it was with my BMC mtt travel.
We are sending all ours back as the distributor doesn't stock any of the tools and Springs for custmization and none of these things come with the bike! The play in the front end couldnt be removed from new so not salable! great concept but without a distributor who carries all the bits this would be an expensive mistake for any customer! Topstone Lefty is a much better option
From an Aero\Weight weenie perspective: gets my approval. By the review its compliant enough to tackle off-road fun rides yet not embarassing to take on granfondo´s with few mods.
Trust me, you're not really going to be tackling much in the way of off road with it, took my gravel bike along the most mellow trail that there is round here which my Anthem eats up, won't be doing it again.
@@OriginalAirsoftGasser I´m going by David´s feedback. The part he went through those tree roots looked legit and he only made negative remarks about the squeeky fork, so this bike looks at least more capable than my winter\gravel Giant Defy(heavily modified sub-8Kg). But yeah I see your point however I dont know how compliant the BMC is.
@@wsbygt Oh I totally agree, recording himself riding over one very small section of roots looks very impressive, now imagine that you enter a trail/path that you don't know and there are several meters of sections like that, sharp rocks, off camber sections and maybe some technical climbs over rocks, it now completely changes the idea of going for a ride on a gravel bike and entering trails/paths, it quickly turns from going for a fun ride into regretting deciding to go down what initially looked like a nice smooth trail as you're now fixing a puncture and those couple of extra minutes of time that you saved on the road getting there are now lost in the amount of punctures that you're fixing. Gravel bikes do have their place but it's not as a do it all replacement for a mountain bike and to be honest CX bikes have been around for years and nobody was proclaiming them as a mountain bike replacement were they.
@@wsbygt I'm not anti gravel, I think it's a great idea and I enjoy mine but I think that gravel manufacturers are trying to make something that you really don't want or need, if you really want to venture offroad and not do any touring or long days out then a lightweight carbon hardtail or even full rigid mtb is a better choice and if you want some comfort get a short travel full suspension bike and put some fast semi slicks on it, if like me you live somewhere that has lots of rougher country lanes with gravel paths in between that a road bike isn't really suitable for then sure get a gravel bike but you don't need any sort of suspension for that, just don't overestimate the capabilities of any gravel bike.
Hi dave the bike it self looks nice, I'm not 2 keen on the colorways on offer thou esp for the price. I expect the suspension works good for a gravel bike but not alot of length so that will keep the speed up I suppose?I think il keep 2 my mountain bike for that kind of terrain and my defy 4 roads and canal paths etc. Keep up the good work chap 👍
No, i stop using mtb for gravel for the semplicity of take the bike and go, no maintenance, no dealing with suspension. If i need suspension means that i want to jump in enduro trails, so i'd better use a mtb. With a gravel i go where a xc mtb goes 90% of time and i go a lot better on the road.
Beautiful place to film. 👌 I’d totally consider something like this. It’s beefy but at least your wallet will be lighter. 🪶 Not my favorite color but you do you BMC.
Sorry but I have to disagree totally with you, I'm a mountain biker who used to ride a full rigid Tomac Flint carbon forked 29er, I've got a 2016 Giant Trance 27.5, 2021 Giant Anthem advanced 29er and a 2022 Ghost Road Rage gravel bike, I had a road bike before the gravel bike and I've also owned a Specialized enduro, Orange Alpine 160, a carbon 27.5 trail hardtail with a 140mm fork and a 1990's 26" steel Marin hardtail, out of all these bikes that I've owned the gravel bike is most similar to the 1990's 26", in other words it's shit on anything that isn't gravel, it's kind of in the name really, I would never replace my Anthem with a gravel bike as the gravel bike is not capable of doing what I do on my Anthem with any sort of comfort or confidence, my full rigid carbon was running ardent 2.4 front and back, the gravel bike will never match that but the Anthem is just as quick and slightly more capable, I would never replace my Trance with an Anthem as the Anthem just can't deal with the terrain that the Trance can but I have replaced my road bike with a gravel bike as I wasn't really riding road but I was riding gravel lanes, just what the gravel bike is ideal for, STOP TRYING TO PUSH GRAVEL BIKES AS AN MTB REPLACEMENT AS THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO BE!!! With your stupid click bait titles you are just trying to convince people to buy what they aren't really looking for, if you want a good gravel/mtb/endurance/fun off/on road bike then buy an Anthem or something similar, for those asking why I have a gravel bike if I have all the other things the answer is easy, I have a 2 year old, I can put a child seat on my gravel bike and take him out with me along calm country lanes with some comfort in the tyres.
Form over function - has anyone asked for this is is it purely a marketing exercise? And the almost inaccessible 20mm front suspension is ridiculous. If you want to cover as many bases as possible , buy something like a Cotic Cascade with a Rockshox front fork.
@@timdixo Does 'all road' mean shit at road AND off road? Gravel bikes = draggy tyres on road and no control off it. I thought cyclists love an excuse for n+1, no need to compromise
I like both LT1 and LT2 colour , particularly in favour of the discreted branding logo unlike 99 % of other bikes with big brand name on the down tube
Really liked your review. Tested the bike today and bought it. St Louis has some great technical gravel rides. Looking forward to taking it all over Missouri , Arizona , Florida and wherever the trails call me.
I ride a BMC Teamelite 01 Harttail which uses the MTT rear suspension sponge thingy and I like it a lot. It pretty much annihilates really rough cobblestone vibration and hits. To me its the perfect adventure Bike, and yes love me a real suspension fork.
I did a lot of searching before I switched from an old cyclocross bike to a gravel bike. To me, front suspension is required, rear is optional. I went with Lauf True Grit because of the no maintenance front suspension and what appeared to be the lowest unsprung weight. After that, everything was standard, unlike the BMC with a proprietary head tube. I was looking at the Grizl which was a close second. But Lauf had a better price/feature mix. I really don't understand why the True Grit so overlooked. Yes I'm a bit of a fanboy because it was exactly what I was expecting in a gravel bike.
Seriously looked at it when it first came out but decided against. Main issue was not enough tyre, or rather mud clearance for where I ride - great fun when dry, but clogging would really restricted where it could be ridden most of the year. New Seigla looks much more interesting.
True Grit is overlooked cause it's ugly AF. I own Diverge expert carbon, FS2.0 and tires up to 47mm are true MVP.
@@siciunasK True Grit has been replaced by the Seigla which does look a lot better than the TG also supports 50mm tires instead of 45mm. It came out a couple months after my purchase.
I looked at the Diverge but didn't want the proprietary headset that will need maintenance at some point. Plus everything below the headset is unsprung which is less desirable from a performance perspective. Lauf uses a pretty standard headset and only the wheel and carrier is unsprung and has a maintenance free suspension.
A riding partner has a Diverge and is happy with it. So it's a viable alternative.
I do like the look of these but both models look to be about 2k too expensive in my opinion for the spec. You can get a similar spec’d GRIZL for 5k so why pay 7k for this?
You’re not in marketing as a profession are you Lee….
Bmc shareholders need to purchase their next holiday home
You dont have 3 wives and a few mistress and have to pay for annual parking of your yacht in Dubai. The struggle is real.
I'm happy with the standard URS as a road bike - when fitted with road tyres - and its good as it is for smooth gravel ... anything more and I'd switch to a genuine MTB
I love riding my bicycle, I hate the sport and the industry...I should say, the market us as consumers have allowed to proliferate. What is the point? Who can afford this? It took me a literal decade to finally afford a mid/high end spec'd bike and even then I made some compromises.
Its a clear design taste, this or a xc bike, you can choose 😃🤟
Nice bike , nice review, but the price . Bikes are so expensive today. I will stick with my converted mountain bike,
I love you channel. Awesome content!
Hey David, are you going to get a chance to check out that new Lauf Seigla? It looks like a really cool bike, love to hear more about it.
I want to it's just whether they'll send me a bike to ride. I'm working on it
I think it’s a really nice bike & a cool concept but not perfected yet. I could never deal with squeaky noises as I’m riding, not for that kind of $. For me at 60 I’m looking for a comfortable bike with some Cush to take the edge off, any suggestions?
A cross country bike or a hard tail
Mountain bike
one technical question pls .....could it be mounted with a Campagnole Ekar 13 mechnical 1x ...
When i hear the price of these bikes nowdays i just laugh.
MAKE SURE HOW MUCH SERVICING THE SUSPENSION REQUIRES AND IF YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO DO IT. it might be a pain in the ass which it was with my BMC mtt travel.
We are sending all ours back as the distributor doesn't stock any of the tools and Springs for custmization and none of these things come with the bike! The play in the front end couldnt be removed from new so not salable! great concept but without a distributor who carries all the bits this would be an expensive mistake for any customer! Topstone Lefty is a much better option
There’s a market for it. I prefer utility and wide tires for comfort
just put gravel tyres on mtb bike and thats it :)
how would you compare the comfortness on the front : Specialised Roubaix vs BMC URS LT2 ?
BMC edges it for me I reckon
I hope you get to review the new Lauf Seigla
From an Aero\Weight weenie perspective: gets my approval. By the review its compliant enough to tackle off-road fun rides yet not embarassing to take on granfondo´s with few mods.
Trust me, you're not really going to be tackling much in the way of off road with it, took my gravel bike along the most mellow trail that there is round here which my Anthem eats up, won't be doing it again.
@@OriginalAirsoftGasser I´m going by David´s feedback. The part he went through those tree roots looked legit and he only made negative remarks about the squeeky fork, so this bike looks at least more capable than my winter\gravel Giant Defy(heavily modified sub-8Kg). But yeah I see your point however I dont know how compliant the BMC is.
@@wsbygt Oh I totally agree, recording himself riding over one very small section of roots looks very impressive, now imagine that you enter a trail/path that you don't know and there are several meters of sections like that, sharp rocks, off camber sections and maybe some technical climbs over rocks, it now completely changes the idea of going for a ride on a gravel bike and entering trails/paths, it quickly turns from going for a fun ride into regretting deciding to go down what initially looked like a nice smooth trail as you're now fixing a puncture and those couple of extra minutes of time that you saved on the road getting there are now lost in the amount of punctures that you're fixing. Gravel bikes do have their place but it's not as a do it all replacement for a mountain bike and to be honest CX bikes have been around for years and nobody was proclaiming them as a mountain bike replacement were they.
@@OriginalAirsoftGasser From my mostly roadie experience you make a good case, yes I understand your point.
@@wsbygt I'm not anti gravel, I think it's a great idea and I enjoy mine but I think that gravel manufacturers are trying to make something that you really don't want or need, if you really want to venture offroad and not do any touring or long days out then a lightweight carbon hardtail or even full rigid mtb is a better choice and if you want some comfort get a short travel full suspension bike and put some fast semi slicks on it, if like me you live somewhere that has lots of rougher country lanes with gravel paths in between that a road bike isn't really suitable for then sure get a gravel bike but you don't need any sort of suspension for that, just don't overestimate the capabilities of any gravel bike.
why not use 650Bs? That would be a fair test.
Hi dave the bike it self looks nice, I'm not 2 keen on the colorways on offer thou esp for the price. I expect the suspension works good for a gravel bike but not alot of length so that will keep the speed up I suppose?I think il keep 2 my mountain bike for that kind of terrain and my defy 4 roads and canal paths etc. Keep up the good work chap 👍
If all the gravel bikes look like road bikes having full "suspension" is ok. The simplicity is what makes them special.
Suspension gravel bike is pretty much a hard tail ,c mountain bike with a drop down handlebar
Just buy a XTC 29er, almost as fast on the flat, loads of fun on downhill trails or urban attack 😎
..and half the price
No, i stop using mtb for gravel for the semplicity of take the bike and go, no maintenance, no dealing with suspension. If i need suspension means that i want to jump in enduro trails, so i'd better use a mtb. With a gravel i go where a xc mtb goes 90% of time and i go a lot better on the road.
Needs a logo on the downtime.
8000 euros almost 10 kgs I just don't get it
For the diehard roadies who refuse to buy a mtb.
C'mon...Ridiculous to use drop bars on a serious gravel bike...
Color reminds me of baby poo. Love the concept of suspension, not the price.
Beautiful place to film. 👌 I’d totally consider something like this. It’s beefy but at least your wallet will be lighter. 🪶 Not my favorite color but you do you BMC.
Thats a mountain bike with a drop bar.
Sorry but I have to disagree totally with you, I'm a mountain biker who used to ride a full rigid Tomac Flint carbon forked 29er, I've got a 2016 Giant Trance 27.5, 2021 Giant Anthem advanced 29er and a 2022 Ghost Road Rage gravel bike, I had a road bike before the gravel bike and I've also owned a Specialized enduro, Orange Alpine 160, a carbon 27.5 trail hardtail with a 140mm fork and a 1990's 26" steel Marin hardtail, out of all these bikes that I've owned the gravel bike is most similar to the 1990's 26", in other words it's shit on anything that isn't gravel, it's kind of in the name really, I would never replace my Anthem with a gravel bike as the gravel bike is not capable of doing what I do on my Anthem with any sort of comfort or confidence, my full rigid carbon was running ardent 2.4 front and back, the gravel bike will never match that but the Anthem is just as quick and slightly more capable, I would never replace my Trance with an Anthem as the Anthem just can't deal with the terrain that the Trance can but I have replaced my road bike with a gravel bike as I wasn't really riding road but I was riding gravel lanes, just what the gravel bike is ideal for, STOP TRYING TO PUSH GRAVEL BIKES AS AN MTB REPLACEMENT AS THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO BE!!! With your stupid click bait titles you are just trying to convince people to buy what they aren't really looking for, if you want a good gravel/mtb/endurance/fun off/on road bike then buy an Anthem or something similar, for those asking why I have a gravel bike if I have all the other things the answer is easy, I have a 2 year old, I can put a child seat on my gravel bike and take him out with me along calm country lanes with some comfort in the tyres.
the front suspension is just unnecessary
Form over function - has anyone asked for this is is it purely a marketing exercise? And the almost inaccessible 20mm front suspension is ridiculous. If you want to cover as many bases as possible , buy something like a Cotic Cascade with a Rockshox front fork.
Das ist kein Gravelbike. Wenn ich Federelemente und Puffer habe, ist es für mich ein MTB.
It’s called a mountain bike
@@savagepro9060 YEP!!! Goddamn dirt roadies
There is always one..
@@savagepro9060 They are starting to come with flat bars too now 🤣 Give it up already
Does Lauf have some sort of legal agreement in place that their fork can't be compared to other front end gravel suspension?
@@timdixo Does 'all road' mean shit at road AND off road? Gravel bikes = draggy tyres on road and no control off it. I thought cyclists love an excuse for n+1, no need to compromise
Specialized Diverge copycat