this is such a refreshing take for the lore and it’s such a perfect way to start thinking about ALL the lore by restricting it to just this. keep up the great work!!
Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Might have to make a part 3 now and see what the timeline looks like when adding the other games as evidence rather than build the timeline from them. But definitely not next. Timeline videos take a lot out of me lol.
I actually argue that the FNAF 6 Fire is referenced in the Steel Wool games its just very hard to not miss. Now aside from the Pizzeria Simulator location beginning in the sinkhole in Security Breach and in Help Wanted 2, we know something happened at that restaurant. Now, here's were the First Aid levels, the only FNAF 6 themed levels actually come into play. In the First Aid levels, on the far right vent, there is a crude drawing of Helpy running away from the burning pizzeria. So you could say thats what happens to this specific location as it's in the only FNAF 6 themed levels.
Thanks for pointing that out! I did see that drawing before making the video, but I decided not to include it for a couple reasons. One of the other drawings looks like there is a dead helpi laying on the ground with Cassie and Gregory standing/dancing over him. That led me to 3 possibilities of what the pictures are. Either A) this is showing Cassie and Gregory at the pizza Sim location beating helpi/glitchtrap, B) this is foreshadowing Cassie and Gregory beating helpi/glitchtrap in the future, or C) these mean almost nothing. I didn't want to say they meant nothing in the video, but I also wasn't confident in using foreshadowing as evidence. And saying Cassie and Gregory were at the pizza Sim location would've opened a whole new can of worms. I also didn't include it because the drawing seemed to imply the fire had already happened. We can't be working in a building if it burnt to the ground and the drawing shows helpi running from the fire. So again, either these drawings are foreshadowing what's going to happen, or the event has already happened. Either way, these pictures I feel deserve a video on their own
@@TerminalError It's possible that several of the minigames in HW2 are in some way simulations, (for instance, the real Pigpatch is not known to be hostile, and the First Aid minigames are explicitly called "scenarios" by the Carnival Nurse voice), so they aren't necessarily foreshadowing if they are altered reflections of the past made in-universe.
28:29 I think it's more likely that the player character in Help Wanted, who you called a member of Team C, is Vanessa. It's made abundantly clear that you, the player, are the one reassembling The Anomaly, and eventually get taken over by it, while Tape Girl is just a vector to allow that to happen. Plus, the player is practically stated to be another tester, and Tape Girl may not have been fully taken over due to fracturing the anomaly along with her logs. The player is the one who gets the in-game Vanny Mask, and holds a conversation with The Anomaly by using it and the plushy, and we hear the player's voice while it happens: they sound like a grown woman. 34:40 I think the "earthquake" claim is a cover-up for something else happening - probably The Blob/Tangle beginning to tunnel its way out from under the Pizza Plex, damaging the already unstable foundations. 38:28 To elaborate, it is _highly_ likely that at least the Glamrock animatronics run on the Mimic program. The Endo Nursery in Security Breach has several wall murals with visual instructions to follow, something the Endos should only be able to learn from if they are programmed to be able to observe and replicate what they see. Plus, there's the minigame in HW2 where you literally teach an Endo with a visual memory game, having it associate different ideas on little image cards.
That's the weird thing, tho. Some things seem to point towards it being there for many years like the old technology and the old forklift, but there's things like Gregory's backpack and mxes that seem to point towards it getting trapped pretty recently.
I don't know how I missed this! I have notifications turned on and everything 😭another great video. Also great outfit. We love a snappy-dressing FNAF theorist. 👏🏼
Well, generally the "6 kids" really kicked up in early 2020 following Into the Pit saying "half a dozen kids", whereas its games steam description says 5. This old belief of 6 leaking to the graphic novel, and maybe even Steel Wool looping the Puppet along like Game Theory. Of the 5, we go with Chica as "the first who saw everything", and Goldie last to make 'em significant. HW1 showing Bonnie before we proceed onstage as Freddy led to the thought of Foxy 4th, but PQ4 seems to make it backwards. 15:00 ooh, I even saw Barbadroid draw a Baby poppet for a Rye Toast thumbnail. Furthermore, that distant grave: Safe to call it Charlie's for Pizza Sim, then PQ1 has it lit up unlike the others, then PQ4 removed the tree and put Chica there when Susie (who's up front) is mostly tied to her. So aligning 6's names to the Poppets, we'd have Charlie as Chica, Jeremy as Foxy, Fritz as Freddy, Susie as Bonnie, Gabriel as Golden Freddy, and Cassidy as the Puppet.
Music is better this time but a little too quiet, up a little bit more I think will be perfect! I do love that you took on our thoughts from part 1! Always great to see that.
Of course I would! These videos are for you guys! I did personally think it was a bit low this time too, but when I asked my gf what she thought, she said it was fine. One of these days I'll get it right lol
A few thoughts: 1. Gregory is not one of Glitchtrap's thralls, he's just an orphan squatting the Pizzaplex. HW1's Reluctant Follower becomes Vanny. She created the mask. The therapy recordings practically spell it out for us that Patient 46 is Vanny, and that Vanessa is some kind of unwitting accomplice in what Vanny is doing. Some of the camping spots around the Pizzaplex are behind security doors, are they not? I mean one is down in Burntrap's lair, while another is in the office above Fazerblast. When the therapists started to suspect Patient 46 of hacking the Pizzaplex systems, they blacklisted her. So she uses the mask which obfuscates her presence to security cameras and the animatronics. She's camping in the building just like Gregory is. And I think the original gameplay would've had Gregory retracing Vanny's progress camping throughout the facility. Glamrock Freddy's security alert during the concert was in response to seeing the blacklisted Patient 46 in the crowd. 2. You give the Mimic far more importance to the backstory than I feel was intended. All I interpret the Mimic as is a prototype for the very first generation of animatronics. The Mimic's AI laid the groundwork for creating walking talking animatronics that adopt the personality of the mascot shell they are wearing. But that technology was lost during the incident that buried the Pizza Place, and Henry no doubt destroyed all the documentation of his designs. The Mimic must've malfunctioned at some point and started mimicking humans, taking their "shell" to wear, and that's when it was buried deep in the catacombs. 3. The software salvaged from the animatronic debris in the ruins enabled Fazbear Entertainment to create the Glamrock endos which far surpassed their Staffbot AI in terms of bipedal mobility, personality, and social interaction. 4. I believe PQ3 frees the Reluctant Follower aka Vanny, but not Vanessa. Vanessa sticks around and takes her place in HW2. Vanessa is the "scarred girl" in Candy Cadet's story. 5. I would agree that none of the Glamrock animatronics are possessed. The tragedy of Bonnie and the others is that they achieved real sentience only to become corrupted by the glitch and driven insane. I think that what happened to Bonnie is that he was the first to reboot out of the glitch's influence, and this presented a danger to the plan so he was destroyed for it. Or he was simply "killed" by Monty who wanted to take his spot in the band. Like I said, the Glamrocks were basically sentient and capable of envy and even murdering one another.
Hot Take: Princess Quest isn't the ending of SB, at least not in the way we think. Gregory draws those endings because he sees them or parts of them. Basically we play his night 5, the rest happen over the other nights, Burntrap is night 6 and Ruin is night 7. Seeing the tangle in Ruin and shows it existed and Gregory's backpack implies he was down there. Princess Quest happens, but not through Gregory. I say Jeremy "Bonnie Bro" Fitzgerald, father of Cassie and fan of paper cutters, is also Princess Quest fanboy from the emails/notes. He is the one that finishes PQ4, and note boy talks about the other 3. I think he does all 4 to try to free himself, with Vanny/Vanessa/Tape girl's freedom [and maybe Gregory's] being collateral damage. Those aren't fanciful creations, they are Gregory's picture diary, attempting to make sense of his memories, shattered by both the anomaly and the trauma of being a 10 year old homeless kid hunted by evil robots and a crazy bunny girl.
I like this theory! I think I've heard other fnaf tubers say variations of this (the one that comes to mind is IDs Fantasy), and I thought about putting it in my video but decided against it for 2 reasons. 1) I felt like I was already gonna get raked over the fire for a lot of my other conclusions and explaing that properly so I wouldn't get yelled at felt hard, and 2)noticed I was getting close to 40 minutes and was running out of time to make this and didn't wanna make this over an hour just to explain that as well.
FNAF4 is pretty straight forward; just like FNAF2 and FNAF3 the cutscenes feature a focus on events and main characters that are separate from the gameplay. This is why in Sister Location we get the nightly soap opera; it sharing the same graphical style as the gameplay itself shows we haven't "left" the playable character (PC) and have "followed" them home after their shift. The purpose of the 8-bit style is to narratively separate the gameplay from these sections and that separation then creates the mystery of who, what when. Even though the two games previously had established the "8-bit rule", in FNAF4 people suddenly wanted the arcade-graphic cutscene sections to be one in the same as the gameplay. The idea that you might be two different children (gameplay vs. cut scene) was highly unpopular because people desperately wanted to start attaching faces to names, to known characters (that only had fake names, or nicknames). Following Scott's rule of clarifying what was mistaken in the last game, we're given the soap opera cutscenes; keeping the same graphics AND the first-person perspective to say "you are still him" very clearly. The one 8-bit minigame is then clearly an abstracted memory; Scott trying to re-enforce the idea that 8-bit = Memories, Past Events, Experiences had by NPCs and not the PC. Even the "joke" ending of Sister Location has Enard in his gameplay-graphics model, the same model used in the last scene of the gameplay mode, to further insist this is all within the same context and is not a different person. So going back to FNAF4 I think the similarities between the cutscene Playable Character and the gameplay Playable Character are suppose to be there to draw parallels and to suggest a strong connection between their experiences. The nightmares, also, seem like they were always meant to feel uncanny and cause confusion. That might sound like an obvious statement to make, but it's important; Scott utilizes "obviousness", if that makes any sense; anything that seems kinda bluntly presented is the red flag that it is what it is; The Nightmares are confusing, because there is something "wrong" about how they operate. They don't function like other animatronics because there is something different about them. Wrapping this up, without going into a full other tangent; this is why the Funtimes both behave oddly and are build "Oddly". If you look-up their coils on hardware store sites (or walk into a physical hardware store) you will notice that those are HOLLOW metal coils used to protect wiring, for plumbing and for all sorts of jobs where you are pumping or funneling other things through them. In that same game we are introduced to the Scooper; a machine that "injects" something. Typically, things that get injected are liquid. So; obvious choice in using hollow metal coils on the funtimes + obvious "injection" machine = The Funtimes act very differently, because they are different and you SHOULD notice that (aka Scott wants you to notice and ask "Why?" or "How?").
Ok.... I never considered that Ennard isnt ALL of the funtimes. "A piece of me in every body", a piece of them, each. Their line of toys containing a piece of Ennard too. Look at them, they couldnt possibly fit all the parts of the funtimes in them! Theres more remnant infused robotics left behind. Their AI and coding as well as neccessary parts and hardware, were the only things that came with Ennard. They could be spread out throughout the fnaf world, including the hardware scanned into the VR games, and even Mimic Also, Jeremy didnt cut his face off. It was the vanni mask that tape girl didnt know what it was. She was a programmer, not a hardware developer. The ink was agony. Either tape girl A) literally saw what she actually described. Or B) was so traumatized by what she saw, her brain convinced her of point A
Lmao, it was hard for me to see while playing honestly. Idk why vr does this, but when something gets closer to you, it's very blurry. That's why I'm just staring at the bandaid, I literally can't see it.
This video made me realize that The Anomaly is such a cooler name than Glitchtrap Also, I do want to say that I think the "earthquake" that took out the Plex was The Blob. I think the Blob is big enough to cause an earthquake below the Pizzaplex
Who is Tape Girl? If she is not Vanessa, then who is she? And, if she is Vanessa, then what is the point of her listening to her own recordings in HW1? It seems to me that Jeremy is the protagonist of HW1. He is the one who finds the Vanny mask. HW1 reveals how he found it. HW2 would be the end of that story. Don't the scenarios, the phrase "Remember Jeremy" once again, and probably many other clues suggest this?
So I think tapegirl is Vannesa because when vanny destroys glitchtrap in Help Wanted 2, I think that is the last remains of glitchtrap. If that's the case, tapegirl shouldn't be under his control anymore, and everyone else has had glitchtrap removed. Jermey cut glitchtrap out of his face, Gregory did something off screen (presumably with balloon world), and Vannesa had glitchtrap removed by gregery. If tapegirl is Vannesa then all the strands of glitchtrap we have learned about are gone. Because of that, I don't think we play as Vannesa in Help Wanted. I think we play as gregory. This way, we know how each character got and removed glitchtrap. But your theory of playing as Jeremy is interesting. I'm assuming you think cassies father is Jeremy, which would make sense if Jeremy connects himself back into the game after he dies, which would explain how he's in Help Wanted 2 as well. I don't think it works for this timeline since I don't even think we can say Jeremy and cassies dad are the same character with just the steel wool games, but I'll have to consider that for my "real" or "ultimate" timeline
Sorry if I missed something, but how do you know about the Mimic program in the first place? If I recall correctly, you aren't using the books for this timeline and said program isn't mentioned at all in the games. You'd have no reason to believe the program even extends further than The Mimic itself without the books.
So you are correct that we aren't told about the Mimic program itself, and i did forget to put this part in the video, but from what we learn about the Mimic makes me make the connection. The Mimic animatronic needs to be running on a program that is made to Mimic what it sees since it's a robot, and we hear glitchtrap constantly saying "hello can you hear me" in the help wanted lobby. The other person we hear saying this is tape girl in Help Wanted. From that, I think we can say that glitchtrap is the Mimic program attempting to do the same thing that the Mimic is, copy everything it sees. Hope that helps! Sorry I forgot about putting that connection in the video!
Wait, wasn't The Evidence for Baby Being a part of Ennard, Was The Code Conversation, That Implied Baby Was Kicked out? Also I wonder How the Vanny persona was Created. Could be Like "The Monty Within" Method. The "Earth Quake" Was Believed to Be The Blob Tunneling Through The Ground, Like a worm or Snake. My Question was: What was Vanny/Vanessa Doing in The DreadBear DLC? She was Doing Some Straight Remnant themed Lobotomy there, Made her First Vanny Mask.. Made out of Skin or Flesh-like Material. (Imagine if That First Vanny Mask was Jeremy's Removed Face...)
Baby splitting from ennard is in the code conversation from Scott's games website, but I don't think it has made it to a game yet, and I definitely don't think Steel wool said anything about it. I do think that the vanny persona splitting will be similar to the Monty within but since I only used steel wool games for this timeline, I couldn't use that story as evidence so I just had to keep them as the same character for this timeline. Idk if it was the Blob that causes the earthquake, at least not by itself. I think the Blob tunneling out mightve caused a cave in under the building that causes what feels like an earthquake.
@@TerminalError ok, But hear Me out, I think Gregory's Evil. From The way Gregory is Described by Steel wool, He gives off an Antagonistic Vibe. Plus he Drops an Elevator with Cassie inside. Destroys the Animatronics, then used their parts like William Afton did, In the Fnaf 3 Minigames. We don't have any confirmation that Gregory Did Truly escape the Mind control of Glitchtrap. I can't Be 100 percent certain that Princess quest ending happened, Because while the other endings became comics made by assumably Gregory. The Princess quest ending, got a Fake Helpi ending, by going to the Fredbear Cut-out with the VANNI Mask. That Fake ending got a Few Theories: .1 Cassie is Seeing what she Wants to See, And all of it is Not real. 2. Cassie Actually Meets Vanessa, Gregory and Helpi, But Their Minds are Stuck in this Digital Mind Prison, Gregory and Cassie are oblivious, But if you See in That Fake Ending, Vanessa Looks like she Knows what's Actually happening.
I'll just ask the question here, if Gregory is the player character of Help Wanted 1, why when we pick the Vanny mask and the Anomaly Plushie in HW1, we hear a voice that doesn't sound like Gregory, one that even references "fun", IE: "It will be fun" (ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET)? Just pointing this out.
I believe this is us/gregory hearing the message Vanessa left for glitchtrap. Now we could be hearing this because glitchtrap is speaking through gregory, which would be why we only hear half of the conversation, or perhaps it's just a recording of what glitchtrap heard her say so he could better Mimic her better later.
(1:18) There were gas canisters in F.N.A.F.5’ facilities’ private area, and I believe Dawko made a theory on that too. So it probably always hallucinogenic gas.
@@TerminalError No kidding, I was thinking the same thing too. But with the new book giving insight on the fake bedroom, I wonder if it was always intended that it was gas instead. The problem is that F.N.A.F.5 just did not tell us more about the fake bedroom and hallway, that’s the problem. Not to mention other things like Remnant and such.
Hey terminal error I have a new theory on fredbear that might make since the reason I comment this is to get ppl to believe this theory ill explain my theory is there is no reason that fredbear has a different bowtie and hat plus the Fred bear in UCN with the purple hat and bow tie also can't be Fred bear Reason is simple his ears nightmare fredbear and 8bit Fred bear from fnaf four have their ears on there head however the golden Freddy from fnaf 2 and fnaf one have there ears on the side of there head not on top of there head not to mention the fredbear from the security breach posters has his ears on top of his head I have 3 reasons for why his ears are placed differently on his head despite being the same character theory one this theory is the most simple for this first theory maybe he just redesigned him to make him more realistic by having his ears on his head theory 2 different suits this one is the one I believe for theory number two what if their were 2 different fredbears and then one used to advertise the first suit would be the one with the purple hat and purple bow tie with his ears on his head with a fat stomach second suit would be used if the first suit was in repair this second suit is the one with the black bow tie and black hat and his ears on the side of his head there also I could have been 2 more the 3rd is only used to advertise this is the one in the security breach posters this was the most realistic with a real jaw that looks like a actual bear jaw with his ears in his head dark gold fur and and this fourth I'm not sure if it existed the reason I think there's a fourth is due to fnaf six in the fnad six office while ordering stuff there's a drawing of what seems to be a Fred bear however its not the first or second Fred bear since it doesn't have metal eyes which the first one has and the second one doesn't have purple checks this one is in the fnaf six office bright gold skin purple hat and bow tie blue eyes and purple cheeks is doesn't match any of the other fredbears my 3rd theory is simple changing fredbear this is my 3rd theory that probably makes the least sense for this one Henry and William could have been redesigning fredbear in 1979 he was made to look like a real bear 1980 he was redesigned with a black hat and black bow tie 1983 he was given a purple hat and bowtie the fourth design was in the making but due to the bite if 83 they stopped working on it cuz fredbears family diner closed those are my 3 tickets what are ur thoughts on it?
I'm really confused how you came to the conclusion that Vanessa was tape girl. I thought Vanessa was the player character in HW. The one following TG's instructions.
So in Help Wanted 2, we see vanny crushing glitchtrap. I think this scene is supposed to mean vanny/Vanessa destroys glitchtrap. She's not just destroying this instance of glitchtrap. She's destroying the LAST instance of glitchtrap(and it was sort of "confirmed" in the recent steel wool interview that this is the case). Now, if this is the last instance of glitchtrap, then that means all the people who have gotten infected by glitchtrap have had him removed. Jeremy removes him by cutting his face off to remove the AR chip, Gregory removes him somehow off screen, and that just leaves tape girl and Vanessa. Vanessa has glitchtrap removed by gregory, but we never get a confirmation that tape girl does. In order for Vanessa to be destroying the last bit of glitchtrap in Help Wanted, she needs to be tape girl, and our player character in Help Wanted is Gregory.
MCI / FNAF2 8-bit Cutscenes AND the HW2 Death Order Line-up - Perhaps the cutscenes in FNAF2 show components of the MCI. "Save them" might show were each child was taken from; meaning the point where the person in the yellow suit approached them in the building and convinced them to walk away with him. "Foxy Go Go Go" may be showing us that the spirits then existed in the building disembodied and that the animatronics could somehow "perceive" this (the pink-purple man in this cutscene showing an adult / an employee not being aware of the ghosts and only being aware of Foxy). And then "Give Gifts, Give Life" shows the 6th death "giving life" to the the 5 disembodied spirits; the 5th shown at the end as Golden Freddy (note how Golden Freddy "pops in" at the end, like he pops in and out of existence in FNAF1 and FNAF2; further suggesting that the Golden Freddy suit is not physically present at that event shown to us).
this is such a refreshing take for the lore and it’s such a perfect way to start thinking about ALL the lore by restricting it to just this. keep up the great work!!
Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Might have to make a part 3 now and see what the timeline looks like when adding the other games as evidence rather than build the timeline from them. But definitely not next. Timeline videos take a lot out of me lol.
@@TerminalErrorI personally would love to see a video like that. Having a fully fleshed out timeline with all the games would be great!
I actually argue that the FNAF 6 Fire is referenced in the Steel Wool games its just very hard to not miss.
Now aside from the Pizzeria Simulator location beginning in the sinkhole in Security Breach and in Help Wanted 2, we know something happened at that restaurant. Now, here's were the First Aid levels, the only FNAF 6 themed levels actually come into play.
In the First Aid levels, on the far right vent, there is a crude drawing of Helpy running away from the burning pizzeria. So you could say thats what happens to this specific location as it's in the only FNAF 6 themed levels.
Thanks for pointing that out! I did see that drawing before making the video, but I decided not to include it for a couple reasons.
One of the other drawings looks like there is a dead helpi laying on the ground with Cassie and Gregory standing/dancing over him. That led me to 3 possibilities of what the pictures are. Either A) this is showing Cassie and Gregory at the pizza Sim location beating helpi/glitchtrap, B) this is foreshadowing Cassie and Gregory beating helpi/glitchtrap in the future, or C) these mean almost nothing. I didn't want to say they meant nothing in the video, but I also wasn't confident in using foreshadowing as evidence. And saying Cassie and Gregory were at the pizza Sim location would've opened a whole new can of worms.
I also didn't include it because the drawing seemed to imply the fire had already happened. We can't be working in a building if it burnt to the ground and the drawing shows helpi running from the fire. So again, either these drawings are foreshadowing what's going to happen, or the event has already happened. Either way, these pictures I feel deserve a video on their own
@@TerminalError It's possible that several of the minigames in HW2 are in some way simulations, (for instance, the real Pigpatch is not known to be hostile, and the First Aid minigames are explicitly called "scenarios" by the Carnival Nurse voice), so they aren't necessarily foreshadowing if they are altered reflections of the past made in-universe.
28:29 I think it's more likely that the player character in Help Wanted, who you called a member of Team C, is Vanessa. It's made abundantly clear that you, the player, are the one reassembling The Anomaly, and eventually get taken over by it, while Tape Girl is just a vector to allow that to happen. Plus, the player is practically stated to be another tester, and Tape Girl may not have been fully taken over due to fracturing the anomaly along with her logs. The player is the one who gets the in-game Vanny Mask, and holds a conversation with The Anomaly by using it and the plushy, and we hear the player's voice while it happens: they sound like a grown woman.
34:40 I think the "earthquake" claim is a cover-up for something else happening - probably The Blob/Tangle beginning to tunnel its way out from under the Pizza Plex, damaging the already unstable foundations.
38:28 To elaborate, it is _highly_ likely that at least the Glamrock animatronics run on the Mimic program. The Endo Nursery in Security Breach has several wall murals with visual instructions to follow, something the Endos should only be able to learn from if they are programmed to be able to observe and replicate what they see. Plus, there's the minigame in HW2 where you literally teach an Endo with a visual memory game, having it associate different ideas on little image cards.
Given the were visible on the Mimic in Ruin, I’d GUESS that it had to have been down there AT LEAST 20 years
That's the weird thing, tho. Some things seem to point towards it being there for many years like the old technology and the old forklift, but there's things like Gregory's backpack and mxes that seem to point towards it getting trapped pretty recently.
I don't know how I missed this! I have notifications turned on and everything 😭another great video. Also great outfit. We love a snappy-dressing FNAF theorist. 👏🏼
It's obviously the MCI plus Charlie, but I realise Steel Wool only might not clarify that.
Oh, absolutely. Any regular fnaf timeline should be mci and Charlie. The steel wool games keep it vague, though, which just feels odd to me.
Well, generally the "6 kids" really kicked up in early 2020 following Into the Pit saying "half a dozen kids", whereas its games steam description says 5. This old belief of 6 leaking to the graphic novel, and maybe even Steel Wool looping the Puppet along like Game Theory.
Of the 5, we go with Chica as "the first who saw everything", and Goldie last to make 'em significant. HW1 showing Bonnie before we proceed onstage as Freddy led to the thought of Foxy 4th, but PQ4 seems to make it backwards.
15:00 ooh, I even saw Barbadroid draw a Baby poppet for a Rye Toast thumbnail.
Furthermore, that distant grave:
Safe to call it Charlie's for Pizza Sim, then PQ1 has it lit up unlike the others, then PQ4 removed the tree and put Chica there when Susie (who's up front) is mostly tied to her.
So aligning 6's names to the Poppets, we'd have Charlie as Chica, Jeremy as Foxy, Fritz as Freddy, Susie as Bonnie, Gabriel as Golden Freddy, and Cassidy as the Puppet.
Music is better this time but a little too quiet, up a little bit more I think will be perfect! I do love that you took on our thoughts from part 1! Always great to see that.
Of course I would! These videos are for you guys! I did personally think it was a bit low this time too, but when I asked my gf what she thought, she said it was fine. One of these days I'll get it right lol
Pretty underrated if you ask me
I'm glad you think so!
34:42 I think the earthquake was the Blob tunneling out.
Alright, time to put a bandage on Helpy-
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A few thoughts:
1. Gregory is not one of Glitchtrap's thralls, he's just an orphan squatting the Pizzaplex. HW1's Reluctant Follower becomes Vanny. She created the mask. The therapy recordings practically spell it out for us that Patient 46 is Vanny, and that Vanessa is some kind of unwitting accomplice in what Vanny is doing. Some of the camping spots around the Pizzaplex are behind security doors, are they not? I mean one is down in Burntrap's lair, while another is in the office above Fazerblast. When the therapists started to suspect Patient 46 of hacking the Pizzaplex systems, they blacklisted her. So she uses the mask which obfuscates her presence to security cameras and the animatronics. She's camping in the building just like Gregory is. And I think the original gameplay would've had Gregory retracing Vanny's progress camping throughout the facility. Glamrock Freddy's security alert during the concert was in response to seeing the blacklisted Patient 46 in the crowd.
2. You give the Mimic far more importance to the backstory than I feel was intended. All I interpret the Mimic as is a prototype for the very first generation of animatronics. The Mimic's AI laid the groundwork for creating walking talking animatronics that adopt the personality of the mascot shell they are wearing. But that technology was lost during the incident that buried the Pizza Place, and Henry no doubt destroyed all the documentation of his designs. The Mimic must've malfunctioned at some point and started mimicking humans, taking their "shell" to wear, and that's when it was buried deep in the catacombs.
3. The software salvaged from the animatronic debris in the ruins enabled Fazbear Entertainment to create the Glamrock endos which far surpassed their Staffbot AI in terms of bipedal mobility, personality, and social interaction.
4. I believe PQ3 frees the Reluctant Follower aka Vanny, but not Vanessa. Vanessa sticks around and takes her place in HW2. Vanessa is the "scarred girl" in Candy Cadet's story.
5. I would agree that none of the Glamrock animatronics are possessed. The tragedy of Bonnie and the others is that they achieved real sentience only to become corrupted by the glitch and driven insane. I think that what happened to Bonnie is that he was the first to reboot out of the glitch's influence, and this presented a danger to the plan so he was destroyed for it. Or he was simply "killed" by Monty who wanted to take his spot in the band. Like I said, the Glamrocks were basically sentient and capable of envy and even murdering one another.
great video, but the blob has been argued to be the fnaf AR animatronics when fazbear recreated them, only to throw them out, into the blob
Hot Take: Princess Quest isn't the ending of SB, at least not in the way we think.
Gregory draws those endings because he sees them or parts of them. Basically we play his night 5, the rest happen over the other nights, Burntrap is night 6 and Ruin is night 7. Seeing the tangle in Ruin and shows it existed and Gregory's backpack implies he was down there.
Princess Quest happens, but not through Gregory. I say Jeremy "Bonnie Bro" Fitzgerald, father of Cassie and fan of paper cutters, is also Princess Quest fanboy from the emails/notes. He is the one that finishes PQ4, and note boy talks about the other 3. I think he does all 4 to try to free himself, with Vanny/Vanessa/Tape girl's freedom [and maybe Gregory's] being collateral damage.
Those aren't fanciful creations, they are Gregory's picture diary, attempting to make sense of his memories, shattered by both the anomaly and the trauma of being a 10 year old homeless kid hunted by evil robots and a crazy bunny girl.
I like this theory! I think I've heard other fnaf tubers say variations of this (the one that comes to mind is IDs Fantasy), and I thought about putting it in my video but decided against it for 2 reasons. 1) I felt like I was already gonna get raked over the fire for a lot of my other conclusions and explaing that properly so I wouldn't get yelled at felt hard, and 2)noticed I was getting close to 40 minutes and was running out of time to make this and didn't wanna make this over an hour just to explain that as well.
Finally, another "PQ isn't the only canon ending to SB" believer!
ayyy looking dapper as always! great vid!
Thank you!
FNAF4 is pretty straight forward; just like FNAF2 and FNAF3 the cutscenes feature a focus on events and main characters that are separate from the gameplay. This is why in Sister Location we get the nightly soap opera; it sharing the same graphical style as the gameplay itself shows we haven't "left" the playable character (PC) and have "followed" them home after their shift. The purpose of the 8-bit style is to narratively separate the gameplay from these sections and that separation then creates the mystery of who, what when. Even though the two games previously had established the "8-bit rule", in FNAF4 people suddenly wanted the arcade-graphic cutscene sections to be one in the same as the gameplay. The idea that you might be two different children (gameplay vs. cut scene) was highly unpopular because people desperately wanted to start attaching faces to names, to known characters (that only had fake names, or nicknames).
Following Scott's rule of clarifying what was mistaken in the last game, we're given the soap opera cutscenes; keeping the same graphics AND the first-person perspective to say "you are still him" very clearly. The one 8-bit minigame is then clearly an abstracted memory; Scott trying to re-enforce the idea that 8-bit = Memories, Past Events, Experiences had by NPCs and not the PC. Even the "joke" ending of Sister Location has Enard in his gameplay-graphics model, the same model used in the last scene of the gameplay mode, to further insist this is all within the same context and is not a different person.
So going back to FNAF4 I think the similarities between the cutscene Playable Character and the gameplay Playable Character are suppose to be there to draw parallels and to suggest a strong connection between their experiences. The nightmares, also, seem like they were always meant to feel uncanny and cause confusion. That might sound like an obvious statement to make, but it's important; Scott utilizes "obviousness", if that makes any sense; anything that seems kinda bluntly presented is the red flag that it is what it is; The Nightmares are confusing, because there is something "wrong" about how they operate. They don't function like other animatronics because there is something different about them. Wrapping this up, without going into a full other tangent; this is why the Funtimes both behave oddly and are build "Oddly". If you look-up their coils on hardware store sites (or walk into a physical hardware store) you will notice that those are HOLLOW metal coils used to protect wiring, for plumbing and for all sorts of jobs where you are pumping or funneling other things through them. In that same game we are introduced to the Scooper; a machine that "injects" something. Typically, things that get injected are liquid. So; obvious choice in using hollow metal coils on the funtimes + obvious "injection" machine = The Funtimes act very differently, because they are different and you SHOULD notice that (aka Scott wants you to notice and ask "Why?" or "How?").
Ok.... I never considered that Ennard isnt ALL of the funtimes. "A piece of me in every body", a piece of them, each. Their line of toys containing a piece of Ennard too. Look at them, they couldnt possibly fit all the parts of the funtimes in them! Theres more remnant infused robotics left behind. Their AI and coding as well as neccessary parts and hardware, were the only things that came with Ennard. They could be spread out throughout the fnaf world, including the hardware scanned into the VR games, and even Mimic
Also, Jeremy didnt cut his face off. It was the vanni mask that tape girl didnt know what it was. She was a programmer, not a hardware developer. The ink was agony. Either tape girl A) literally saw what she actually described. Or B) was so traumatized by what she saw, her brain convinced her of point A
16:00 Geez! Talk about a SMALL detail lol I was not looking hard enough to notice it was the Rockstars until he said it
Lmao, it was hard for me to see while playing honestly. Idk why vr does this, but when something gets closer to you, it's very blurry. That's why I'm just staring at the bandaid, I literally can't see it.
This video made me realize that The Anomaly is such a cooler name than Glitchtrap
Also, I do want to say that I think the "earthquake" that took out the Plex was The Blob. I think the Blob is big enough to cause an earthquake below the Pizzaplex
Technically Silver Parasol's mascot is a white rabbit. Maybe Vanny is Silver Parasol's character?
That's why they have a Vanni mask
Who is Tape Girl? If she is not Vanessa, then who is she? And, if she is Vanessa, then what is the point of her listening to her own recordings in HW1? It seems to me that Jeremy is the protagonist of HW1. He is the one who finds the Vanny mask. HW1 reveals how he found it. HW2 would be the end of that story. Don't the scenarios, the phrase "Remember Jeremy" once again, and probably many other clues suggest this?
So I think tapegirl is Vannesa because when vanny destroys glitchtrap in Help Wanted 2, I think that is the last remains of glitchtrap. If that's the case, tapegirl shouldn't be under his control anymore, and everyone else has had glitchtrap removed. Jermey cut glitchtrap out of his face, Gregory did something off screen (presumably with balloon world), and Vannesa had glitchtrap removed by gregery. If tapegirl is Vannesa then all the strands of glitchtrap we have learned about are gone.
Because of that, I don't think we play as Vannesa in Help Wanted. I think we play as gregory. This way, we know how each character got and removed glitchtrap.
But your theory of playing as Jeremy is interesting. I'm assuming you think cassies father is Jeremy, which would make sense if Jeremy connects himself back into the game after he dies, which would explain how he's in Help Wanted 2 as well. I don't think it works for this timeline since I don't even think we can say Jeremy and cassies dad are the same character with just the steel wool games, but I'll have to consider that for my "real" or "ultimate" timeline
Sorry if I missed something, but how do you know about the Mimic program in the first place?
If I recall correctly, you aren't using the books for this timeline and said program isn't mentioned at all in the games.
You'd have no reason to believe the program even extends further than The Mimic itself without the books.
So you are correct that we aren't told about the Mimic program itself, and i did forget to put this part in the video, but from what we learn about the Mimic makes me make the connection.
The Mimic animatronic needs to be running on a program that is made to Mimic what it sees since it's a robot, and we hear glitchtrap constantly saying "hello can you hear me" in the help wanted lobby. The other person we hear saying this is tape girl in Help Wanted. From that, I think we can say that glitchtrap is the Mimic program attempting to do the same thing that the Mimic is, copy everything it sees.
Hope that helps! Sorry I forgot about putting that connection in the video!
I’ll come back later to finish watching the video, 19:20.
Wait, wasn't The Evidence for Baby Being a part of Ennard,
Was The Code Conversation,
That Implied Baby Was Kicked out?
Also I wonder How the Vanny persona was Created.
Could be Like "The Monty Within" Method.
The "Earth Quake"
Was Believed to Be The Blob Tunneling Through The Ground,
Like a worm or Snake.
My Question was:
What was Vanny/Vanessa Doing in The DreadBear DLC?
She was Doing Some Straight Remnant themed Lobotomy there,
Made her First Vanny Mask..
Made out of Skin or Flesh-like Material.
(Imagine if That First Vanny Mask was Jeremy's Removed Face...)
Baby splitting from ennard is in the code conversation from Scott's games website, but I don't think it has made it to a game yet, and I definitely don't think Steel wool said anything about it.
I do think that the vanny persona splitting will be similar to the Monty within but since I only used steel wool games for this timeline, I couldn't use that story as evidence so I just had to keep them as the same character for this timeline.
Idk if it was the Blob that causes the earthquake, at least not by itself. I think the Blob tunneling out mightve caused a cave in under the building that causes what feels like an earthquake.
@@TerminalError ok, But hear Me out,
I think Gregory's Evil.
From The way Gregory is Described by Steel wool,
He gives off an Antagonistic Vibe.
Plus he Drops an Elevator with Cassie inside.
Destroys the Animatronics, then used their parts like William Afton did,
In the Fnaf 3 Minigames.
We don't have any confirmation that Gregory Did Truly escape the Mind control of Glitchtrap.
I can't Be 100 percent certain that Princess quest ending happened,
Because while the other endings became comics made by assumably
Gregory.
The Princess quest ending,
got a Fake Helpi ending, by going to the
Fredbear Cut-out with the VANNI Mask.
That Fake ending got a Few Theories:
.1 Cassie is Seeing what she Wants to See,
And all of it is Not real.
2. Cassie Actually Meets Vanessa, Gregory and Helpi,
But Their Minds are Stuck in this Digital Mind Prison,
Gregory and Cassie are oblivious, But if you See in That Fake Ending,
Vanessa Looks like she Knows what's Actually happening.
But What you Say also Makes Sense,So I am Conflicted.@@TerminalError
i hate that they reused motherboards to save money but built a billion dollar mall????
I'll just ask the question here, if Gregory is the player character of Help Wanted 1, why when we pick the Vanny mask and the Anomaly Plushie in HW1, we hear a voice that doesn't sound like Gregory, one that even references "fun", IE: "It will be fun" (ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET)?
Just pointing this out.
I believe this is us/gregory hearing the message Vanessa left for glitchtrap. Now we could be hearing this because glitchtrap is speaking through gregory, which would be why we only hear half of the conversation, or perhaps it's just a recording of what glitchtrap heard her say so he could better Mimic her better later.
(1:18) There were gas canisters in F.N.A.F.5’ facilities’ private area, and I believe Dawko made a theory on that too. So it probably always hallucinogenic gas.
I think hallucinogenic gas was always the answer as well, but all the red hearings like the illusion disks and such make things very confusing.
@@TerminalError
No kidding, I was thinking the same thing too. But with the new book giving insight on the fake bedroom, I wonder if it was always intended that it was gas instead.
The problem is that F.N.A.F.5 just did not tell us more about the fake bedroom and hallway, that’s the problem. Not to mention other things like Remnant and such.
35:28
Genuinely thought this was a bit lol
Omg that's embarrassing lol
@@TerminalError 😂 it's relatable!
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i loved this video
i watched the entire video
Dang that 2x speed really doing some work
yooo hell yeah! i was excited for this vid
I was excited, too! I'm glad I could get it out
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Hey terminal error I have a new theory on fredbear that might make since the reason I comment this is to get ppl to believe this theory ill explain my theory is there is no reason that fredbear has a different bowtie and hat plus the Fred bear in UCN with the purple hat and bow tie also can't be Fred bear Reason is simple his ears nightmare fredbear and 8bit Fred bear from fnaf four have their ears on there head however the golden Freddy from fnaf 2 and fnaf one have there ears on the side of there head not on top of there head not to mention the fredbear from the security breach posters has his ears on top of his head I have 3 reasons for why his ears are placed differently on his head despite being the same character theory one this theory is the most simple for this first theory maybe he just redesigned him to make him more realistic by having his ears on his head theory 2 different suits this one is the one I believe for theory number two what if their were 2 different fredbears and then one used to advertise the first suit would be the one with the purple hat and purple bow tie with his ears on his head with a fat stomach second suit would be used if the first suit was in repair this second suit is the one with the black bow tie and black hat and his ears on the side of his head there also I could have been 2 more the 3rd is only used to advertise this is the one in the security breach posters this was the most realistic with a real jaw that looks like a actual bear jaw with his ears in his head dark gold fur and and this fourth I'm not sure if it existed the reason I think there's a fourth is due to fnaf six in the fnad six office while ordering stuff there's a drawing of what seems to be a Fred bear however its not the first or second Fred bear since it doesn't have metal eyes which the first one has and the second one doesn't have purple checks this one is in the fnaf six office bright gold skin purple hat and bow tie blue eyes and purple cheeks is doesn't match any of the other fredbears my 3rd theory is simple changing fredbear this is my 3rd theory that probably makes the least sense for this one Henry and William could have been redesigning fredbear in 1979 he was made to look like a real bear 1980 he was redesigned with a black hat and black bow tie 1983 he was given a purple hat and bowtie the fourth design was in the making but due to the bite if 83 they stopped working on it cuz fredbears family diner closed those are my 3 tickets what are ur thoughts on it?
Theorys not tickets
Keep up the great work, love the video 😊
Thank you! Will do!
Nice outfit and w content ♥️
its been 2 minutes
Thank you!
32:44 *bonnie
Good video
Thank you!
Great videos man you're such an underrated fnad theorist
Not the fazzacre of the employees
The fazzacre of 87!
Nice
Thanks!
I'm really confused how you came to the conclusion that Vanessa was tape girl. I thought Vanessa was the player character in HW. The one following TG's instructions.
So in Help Wanted 2, we see vanny crushing glitchtrap. I think this scene is supposed to mean vanny/Vanessa destroys glitchtrap. She's not just destroying this instance of glitchtrap. She's destroying the LAST instance of glitchtrap(and it was sort of "confirmed" in the recent steel wool interview that this is the case). Now, if this is the last instance of glitchtrap, then that means all the people who have gotten infected by glitchtrap have had him removed. Jeremy removes him by cutting his face off to remove the AR chip, Gregory removes him somehow off screen, and that just leaves tape girl and Vanessa. Vanessa has glitchtrap removed by gregory, but we never get a confirmation that tape girl does. In order for Vanessa to be destroying the last bit of glitchtrap in Help Wanted, she needs to be tape girl, and our player character in Help Wanted is Gregory.
4th isn’t last!
Youre still early!
MCI / FNAF2 8-bit Cutscenes AND the HW2 Death Order Line-up - Perhaps the cutscenes in FNAF2 show components of the MCI. "Save them" might show were each child was taken from; meaning the point where the person in the yellow suit approached them in the building and convinced them to walk away with him. "Foxy Go Go Go" may be showing us that the spirits then existed in the building disembodied and that the animatronics could somehow "perceive" this (the pink-purple man in this cutscene showing an adult / an employee not being aware of the ghosts and only being aware of Foxy). And then "Give Gifts, Give Life" shows the 6th death "giving life" to the the 5 disembodied spirits; the 5th shown at the end as Golden Freddy (note how Golden Freddy "pops in" at the end, like he pops in and out of existence in FNAF1 and FNAF2; further suggesting that the Golden Freddy suit is not physically present at that event shown to us).
early
Heck yeah!