The MOST BROKEN Edgeguarder in Smash Ultimate

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  • Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 67

  • @SillintorVault
    @SillintorVault  Місяць тому +38

    Friendship ended with Marth, now Lucina is my best friend

  • @mattb6522
    @mattb6522 Місяць тому +15

    3:25 RIP to this Sora's PP. It is like shriveled up and about to fall off at this point.

  • @yucca5458
    @yucca5458 Місяць тому +4

    Lucina is like vanille icecream. People call it boring and go with something else but the they forget how good it is and never go back.

  • @beast_Demonbane
    @beast_Demonbane Місяць тому +5

    Starting at 8:50 gave me some flash backs to the good old days of mega x and the older mega man games love me some mega man music

  • @duu1981tiansquare
    @duu1981tiansquare Місяць тому +2

    as a lucina main im happy to hear about your newfound love for her also might try the combo at 4:48

  • @CubeItself
    @CubeItself Місяць тому +6

    pichu back throw covers a surprising amount of distance

  • @baz_00
    @baz_00 Місяць тому +7

    liking these type of vids, nice to have em play when doing some casual work in the background keep it up!

  • @electricssb
    @electricssb Місяць тому +5

    The most broken edge guarder is Lucas. Pk thunder alone clears like half of the casts’ recoveries.

    • @Taozyhe
      @Taozyhe Місяць тому

      nah, ness is objectively better. ness has a better pk fire, a better psi magnet, and both these moves lead into eachother or into bair. ness also has down smash and up smash, he also has pk thunder, if the opponet gets to stage he can get back and back throw. Lucas's pk freeze is slightly better then flash, and his pk thunder is better, but ness haa far more and better options.

  • @WhimsicalLittledawg
    @WhimsicalLittledawg Місяць тому +7

    I'm trying to get better with Marth, and my favorite part is definitely edgeguarding. It's probably even better with Lucina!

    • @SillintorVault
      @SillintorVault  Місяць тому +6

      Good luck with Marth! He is a fun character!

    • @WhimsicalLittledawg
      @WhimsicalLittledawg Місяць тому +2

      @@SillintorVault Thank you!
      Some day, I'll figure out how to actually play Toon Link.

  • @Countdownsmiles
    @Countdownsmiles Місяць тому +2

    I think the problem with Lucina is that she has the same moves as Marth, so preference really boils down to whether or not you want to deal with Tipper/Sour spots. And picking Lucina sometimes feels like admitting you can't play Marth lol. Roy and Chrom have different recovery moves in addition to the sweet/sour spot changes, so they feel like they have a little more reason to exist as seperate characters, even if Chrom's recovery change makes him basically unplayable lol

    • @Cannelle-bo3nx
      @Cannelle-bo3nx Місяць тому +2

      Well, as a Lucina main, I can definitely tell you that the last time I talked about how I dislike playing Marth in comparison to her (because 1. the satisfaction of landing some of his tippers - mainly those who end stocks - doesn't compensate for how horrendous landing his sour spots feels to me, and 2. because he is counterintuitive in my eyes : he's fast and he has good movement and frame data, but he has to carefully space his tippers, making him inherently weird and less aggressive than Lucina), I got called a masher who can't play him. I wanted to answer those who accused me of being that at first (I played Marth for about a year so I have few issues with landing tippers), but then I figured I should not waste my time arguing with people who are too fast for wisdom to catch.
      In my opinion, if you can play Lucina, then you can play Marth (same with Chrom and Roy). There are of course things like different combos, confirms, spacing, etc. to learn/get used to, but these characters are echo fighters, and as such, like you said, playing them or the character they are based on depends mainly on preference. Look at Mr. R, the man likes playing Chrom but dislike playing Roy, yet he can play the later according to Larry Lurr. And just like him, if I were do drop Lucina, I wouldn't go back to play Marth instead as 1. I dropped him after finding out I dislike playing him for the most part, and 2. because I prefer playing Byleth and Corrin as far as characters with a tipper mechanic are concerned

  • @surplus_kato
    @surplus_kato Місяць тому

    Incineroar and Mario have my favorite back throws lol. A suplex and the iconic So long Gay Bowser 😂

  • @WitchingHourXIII
    @WitchingHourXIII Місяць тому +1

    I love your music pics (for some reason I feel like there was one in there from TWEWY but idk man)

  • @noahyang6012
    @noahyang6012 Місяць тому +2

    love the new vids silin

  • @mneumvis
    @mneumvis Місяць тому +1

    great Lucina

  • @davidn90
    @davidn90 Місяць тому

    Don't think I've ever seen your Mewtwo bro. I can't wait.

  • @Blackhairboi9103
    @Blackhairboi9103 Місяць тому

    Lucina is a good character for match ups.

  • @rmlgaming2091
    @rmlgaming2091 Місяць тому

    I like your interactions with the stream chat

  • @normieandyy
    @normieandyy Місяць тому

    I was starting to lose confidence in playing Lucina lately due to everyone constantly saying she’s “boring” and “sauceless”, but this video really shows how cool and fun she can be in a 1v1 setting.
    I’m motivated to starting playing her seriously again:)
    Also the conversions you got in this video were really sick.

    • @Cannelle-bo3nx
      @Cannelle-bo3nx Місяць тому

      Watch ProtoBanham and Mr. E, see how boring and sauceless she really is. Don't listen to people, play who you want to play, Lucina is goated

    • @normieandyy
      @normieandyy Місяць тому +1

      @@Cannelle-bo3nx ik about them, I watch their vods a lot(Proto is actually my favorite player)
      It’s just the sentiment about her being lame in comparison to Marth that annoys me a lot, especially when they both benefit from the same setups, calculated reads,spacing, ledgeguarding,neutral wins etc.
      The only difference tipper makes is that it rewards you more for setups and well spaced hits. But because of this, people have gotten the idea that marth has this deep combo game that makes him a “better character” or “more respectable/hype”.
      They do the same thing more or less, just like many other swordies in ultimate like cloud, Chroy, and Corrin to an extent. The only sword character with a true combo game is aegis, but everyone hates her too😂
      Sorry for venting:)

    • @Cannelle-bo3nx
      @Cannelle-bo3nx Місяць тому

      People always talk about how hype Marth's tippers are, but they never talk about how lame his sour spots are. I'd rather watch a hyper aggressive, consistent Lucina player than watch a Marth player slowly taking his time, patiently fishing for tippers and landing meh sour spots all the while until they can land the formers.
      The idea of Marth being better than Lucina in Ultimate seriously needs to go. All you have to do to make him less effective than her is not get hit by his tippers (which don't have large hitboxes anyway), that way, even if he hits you, he'll hit you like a wuss. Marth can't scrap because his sour spots have low hitstun, but Lucina can.
      Chrom, Roy, Cloud, Corrin and Shulk kinda have a combo game. I don't know about the Aegis being hated, but if they are, I don't share the sentiment. I don't care much about what people think. I suggest you do the same, you'll enjoy the game a lot more that way

    • @normieandyy
      @normieandyy Місяць тому +1

      @@Cannelle-bo3nx
      Yeah I’ll definitely start to ignore the BS, marth is still really fun to play(I mained him in smash 4 with sheik), it’s just annoying how elitist some marth mains become once Lucina is mentioned.

    • @Cannelle-bo3nx
      @Cannelle-bo3nx Місяць тому

      If you like playing Marth, maybe you could play both him and Lucina ? You could use Marth for some matchups, including Ditto ones so you could make Marth elitists shut up a bit, seethe, and cry lol. They act like you need so much more skill to play Marth compared to playing Lucina, one thing you could do is show them it's just plain false by beating them up with their own character (make sure you land nasty tippers while doing so), that's what I do personally

  • @AJ-sn7lz
    @AJ-sn7lz Місяць тому +1

    More Lucina plz.🙏

  • @securatyyy
    @securatyyy Місяць тому

    Lucina players' favorite drink is room temperature water

  • @Dabaconangel
    @Dabaconangel Місяць тому +1

    marth next?

  • @jaysonparadis4162
    @jaysonparadis4162 Місяць тому +1

    I'm here for the stormeagle Megaman X song 🫡

  • @No1tgffgh
    @No1tgffgh Місяць тому

    My first time playing palutina I won 6 straight and got in elite smash. Shes just flat out easy. I'm not great with swordies so I struggle with lucina.

  • @FernandoLucas48
    @FernandoLucas48 Місяць тому

    Most jokers i find online are Also counter spamers

  • @dylanlerian5960
    @dylanlerian5960 Місяць тому

    Waiting for your cracked Kazuya next time

  • @FedeliSPM
    @FedeliSPM Місяць тому

    He got Roy, and got rekt 🙋🏻‍♂️ 6:13

  • @rakeday1726
    @rakeday1726 23 дні тому

    Can someone explain the “please, no John’s” meme? I feel like an old man because I don’t get it

  • @mrmediocre848
    @mrmediocre848 Місяць тому

    I can respect the clean gameplay, though I personally don't feel much affinity for the Lucina gameplay in general, but that's just because Ganon's my soulmate, and watching most characters play reminds me of how Ganondorf has none of it/gets destroyed by them.
    Lucina gets more combos on Ganon, edgeguards him for free, and having a ton of safe disjoints is sort of similar to a zoner throwing out projectiles. The PTSD from playing Ganondorf exclusively is real.

    • @Cannelle-bo3nx
      @Cannelle-bo3nx Місяць тому +1

      Me being a Lucina main who plays Ganondorf for laughs 😶 lol try playing Lucina man, you might have unexpected fun. Solo Ganondorf feels painful 😄

    • @mrmediocre848
      @mrmediocre848 Місяць тому

      @@Cannelle-bo3nx it is painful, and though it has so many shortcomings, when Ganondorf's in the flow, it hits so hard.
      Help me, I'm addicted

    • @Cannelle-bo3nx
      @Cannelle-bo3nx Місяць тому

      @@mrmediocre848 If I were a Ganondorf solo main looking for a secondary, I'd go for someone probably less powerful, but also faster and with a better recovery. Probably Captain Falcon or Roy

    • @mrmediocre848
      @mrmediocre848 Місяць тому

      @@Cannelle-bo3nx I've tried both here and there, but there's a lot of mental inertia to overcome the Ganondorf muscle memory. I'll try someone else if Smash 6 doesn't do my demon king justice.

    • @Cannelle-bo3nx
      @Cannelle-bo3nx Місяць тому +1

      If Smash 6 ever comes and Ganondorf is in there, I hope they'll make Ganondorf better (while revamping his moveset... and keeping his power lol)

  • @domenicdefusco6328
    @domenicdefusco6328 Місяць тому

    Meta Knight best edge guarding in the game

  • @JeanBalayn
    @JeanBalayn Місяць тому

    No lucina is like captain falcon bit with sword but against zoner, she can anything, like captain falcon.

  • @goldenpsi8764
    @goldenpsi8764 Місяць тому +1

    My local wolf main would rather have lucina bair than wolf bair, are they insane or are they cookin?

    • @SillintorVault
      @SillintorVault  Місяць тому +3

      Depends on the context of the character. I can see a character like Wolf benefitting more from his own back-air than Lucina's given the combo's and stats.
      Kinda like Switching out ROB's Gyro and Link's Remote Bomb. Both wouldn't benefit from each other's item and it would be worse for them.
      - ROB wouldn't have his combo tool
      - Link would have a worse recovery

  • @burureddo
    @burureddo Місяць тому

    If I'm good with Marth like I constantly touch people with my tip (pause) should I try Lucina? Is Marth doing more damage with his tip than Lucina?
    Or is Marth doing more knockback so it's harder to combo with him?

    • @Cannelle-bo3nx
      @Cannelle-bo3nx Місяць тому

      You can try Lucina to see if you like playing her. Even if you land Marth's tippers enough, she's better than him at close range and she can be played more aggressively. Marth's tippers do more damage than Lucina's regular hits, but their damage output is similar overall. To do combos with Marth, you use sour spots or tippers at low to mid percent, the knockback won't matter much. His combos and Lucina's are a bit different

  • @ClipsGamingShorts
    @ClipsGamingShorts Місяць тому

    Anyone know the song at 5:19???

  • @J0K3R246
    @J0K3R246 Місяць тому +1

    You should do someone that's 20 times better, and that's... OLIMAR. JK, but I want to kinda see someone maybe like chrom to keep the streak of fire emblem characters

  • @JeanBalayn
    @JeanBalayn Місяць тому

    It's like Pikachu bashing.

  • @HarrisonKarrison
    @HarrisonKarrison Місяць тому +1

    I’m of the first to watch!!! Excited for the vid🫶

  • @Kiki-uf4sp
    @Kiki-uf4sp Місяць тому

    @SillintorVault how do you pronounce your name? Is it silly-n-ator or silin-tor

    • @SillintorVault
      @SillintorVault  Місяць тому +7

      Sill-in-tor
      And how does an "a" magically appear in your example LOL. That doesn't make any sense

  • @Lukachu974-ex1pg
    @Lukachu974-ex1pg Місяць тому +1

    i liked i shared and i commented can i see my family now

  • @Pupperkins
    @Pupperkins Місяць тому +1

    Hi

  • @TheaverageJoe011
    @TheaverageJoe011 Місяць тому

    Day 1 of ask8ng sillin to play lucario

  • @JoeJoe0o
    @JoeJoe0o Місяць тому

    Dude i can't stand to watch you brutalizing my guy BJr 😭 you make the character look unplayable but he's good!!

  • @noahyang6012
    @noahyang6012 Місяць тому

    first!

  • @JeanBalayn
    @JeanBalayn Місяць тому

    Verry overated swordier.