Brain Changes in Chronic Pain Patients
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- In this clip (6 of 10): Imaging studies have shown changes in brain anatomy in people who are longtime chronic pain patients, such as accelerated loss of gray matter. "Psychologically based" approaches such as meditation and yoga may be protective, although more study is needed. This clip is part of the lecture "The Neural Basis of Mind-Body Pain Therapies" by M. Catherine Bushnell, Ph.D., scientific director of the Division of Intramural Research, NCCAM, NIH. This lecture, given at NIH in 2013, is part of the NCCAM Online Continuing Education Series. Free CME/CEU credit is available to health professionals (see nccam.nih.gov/training/videole....
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Undertreated chronic pain destroys your mind, body and soul.
The thing is I find many people with no chronic pain are totally assholes and destroyed! What about them :D
@r laze I think chronic pain has softened me in many ways. so far. 10 years
amen
@@shahilagh aww poor them 😢 wont somebody think of the healthy people
@@kitten1122 lmao for real get out XD
It would be interesting to see the difference between patients who get treated properly and recieve PAIN MEDICATION, and the majority of the rest of us who is left to suffer because Drs won't provide pain medications.
Our brains are tired from fighting chronic pain in our bodies.
If somebody says yoga one more time I swear to God I’ll smack them. I’m to crippled for that LOL
and meditation
my brain is full of shit i don’t want to think about
I have central pain syndrome and Adult Onset Tourettes. Both of these are results of brain damage/neural pathway destruction and damage as a result of undertreated and untreated chronic pain. When I told the practitioner with the clinic that I was a patient of about the central pain syndrome diagnosis from neuro and the suggested treatment for it (increasing the amount of pain meds), the practitioner instead opted to inform me that he was writing my last script under him and that he was dropping me from his care- without writing a discharge letter for me. I then proceeded to develop Adult Onset Tourettes to go along with the central pain syndrome diagnosis.
I'm grateful for my current pain management provider who understands that I have the two conditions that are results of brain damage and has granted acceptance for my neurologist (neuro) to have me on a benzo to help with side effects of the brain damage even though he (pain management) has me on opiates for helping to keep the pain tolerable.
admit it ! nobody knows chronic pain ,but chronic pain PATIENTS ! so let us SUFFER in peace !
No, we need this kind of research and cures!
I totally agree because people always THINK the know how we feel but in reality they don’t
If anyone out here reads these comments and has even a little compassion, tell the CDC they were wrong to FORCE TAPER stable pain patients medicine!!! We are being tortured so people who choose to abuse drugs can live, but we die!
Exactly. The epidemic is that they aren't treating people with pain like they desperately need. My step brother had terrible back pain from abuse he suffered as a child & couldn't get his pills so he killed himself. My roommate (a disabled vet with over 30 surgeries) has chronic pain after a botched surgery but they refuse to raise his pain meds a measly 5 mg. They are making him go thru all sorts of invasive procedures and putting him on other meds with bad side effects. It appears the drs just want him dead. I have fibromyalgia and became destitute looking for help with my pain. Now I spend most of my days in bed but also trying to support my roommate however I can. Thank god for my sister who helps with cooking, errands, cleaning, walking dogs, etc. It's a wicked world we're living in, that's for sure. No matter what, dont let them take away your joy, laughter, or love.💪💞
Thanks for leaving this comment! I've also had a severe chronic pain disorder for almost thirty years and have been inadequately medicated for pain for most of that time and understand exactly what you're talking about. For the past several years my pain's so severe that I often gnaw on my tongue when I finally do manage to sleep. You're right that we're the unintended victims in the war on opiates.
@@greatestever8976 this happened to me ... got into the free methadone system instead as a shortcut for pain management better than killing one self because the routine doctor is an idiot who should suffer
Here is an interesting bit - do a search for violence against pain doctors. Some people are really not taking it lying down. ONE example "On June 1st, 2022, a lone gunman, Michael Louis, walked into a medical office building in Tulsa, OK, and with a semi-automatic rifle and a semi-automatic handgun, shot and killed 4 people prior to turning his gun on himself and taking his own life. “…Mr. Louis, suffered from chronic low back pain, and among the victims were the orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Preston Phillips”
Just an FYI, opioids reduce your life span, so you're damned if you do, damned if you don't regardless of whether you use em or not.
One of my family went through medical school and precious little is taught about chronic pain but what is taught that anybody who asks for pain drugs is a "drug seeker". Pure and simple. Addict. They are taught that even a broken leg will heal fully in a few months so pain meds do not need to be prescribed but for a very short time. They are TAUGHT that! I saw the book.
I absolutely believe it. I was definitely treated as a drug seeker & a few times was horribly treated my medical professionals, when I was on opiates for my chronic pain. I’m still treated like a drug seeker even though I’ve been off pain meds for over 2 yrs even though I never ask for them.
The younger Dr’s all have a new philosophy regarding pain being a mental construct that can easily be managed & overcome with yoga & mindfulness. It’s ridiculous. There’s been a huge culture shift in how pain is regarded in this Country & people in real pain are paying the price.
@@michellesotak2683 One of the terms I like least is "pain repurposing" - therapists love this one.
@@michellesotak2683 Do a google with violence pain clinics
interesting article. I’m always looking. I meant Pain Reprocessing Therapy - not Repurposing, although I think you could interchange a lot of the woo-woo words and get the same thing.
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in 2006. It’s total bullshit! After suffering with chronic pain for 24 years, I finally know that I have MBS, (Mind Body Syndrome). My hypothalamus has turned on my pain centers to protect me from emotional issues. After trying all western and eastern medical treatments... that eventually failed.. I’m going to my first ayahuasca ceremony in 9 days. I can’t wait to fix my Grey Matter with the help from Mother Aya! All you Drs & scientists need to find out if your patients/study groups are empaths. I’ll bet you a fortune that most, if not all, chronic pain sufferers are empaths! Try treating the body as a host for our spiritual beings. Maybe you’ll finally get somewhere.
How are you now? Did the ayahuasca help you?
Please check in and let all of us know how you are! I am an empath, as well. You're probably a light worker or star child.
I tore off my leg in 1995, and had it re-attached, but that was a 16 year disaster. Now, I have chronbic pain in a number of different ways, My non-union fracture moves around inside my leg,m and it hurts like you would think it would, the bizarre feeling of a broken bone in you muscle tissue. It is the strange feeling that your bones are moving in the wrong way after a fracture. It works on me like nothing else. I figured out if you can stop taking pain drugs 1 day out of 3, the efficacy level from long term use is much higher
They can re-attach a whole leg??
@@ametrineambrosia4929 And how are they leaving the bone floating around? Two ends of the fracture unfused, unconnected and moving?! I'm freaking...
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I suffer from CRPS , it's a death sentence, nothing touches this pain level. I understand why they call it the suicide disease. Of course pain will have an effect on the brain. I thought this video would have been more helpful, too bad.
Hi, Happy Days. I'm so sorry to hear about the pain that you are experiencing. I've never been through pain the way that you describe it. I believe that you can be completely healed from this pain. Even though you are suffering so much now, I encourage you to see yourself healed. You can be healed! Watch this healing testimony of a man who was healed from chronic pain: l.awmi.net/3b3fsFs. God bless you, Happy Days!
Sadly I also suffer from Crps but it's located on my face/jaw. I got Crps & trigeminal neuralgia from trauma of surgery when I had bilateral total joint replacement surgery on my tmj joints. They chose the right nickname for Crps, The suicides disease because Crps is unlike any other type of pain I have experienced. It's freaking brutal! I'm sorry that you have to go through this too.
@@TwoPinkPeasTerri So sorry to hear you are suffering too 😞 it must be unbearable to have it on the face. It’s bone crushing pain, sadly, we are not understood.
Hey my fellow warriors, EDS /POTs Zebra here that has gone into the Intractable stage, just wanted to send love and prayers your way. I think about all of us alot since the CDC has been attacking our rights to live and have even have a basic quality of life, it breaks my heart because I know every day that goes by new pain patients are created that have no idea how horribly they will be treated and the ones that have been here for many years watching and experiencing the horrors in our community continue 😔 May God hear our pleas for relief and Justice in the area of our human rights honored in medicine in our country 🙏
This video is for medical practioners/clinicians, delivered in an academic setting. It’s not meant for pain sufferers or lay people.
I can't have adequate pain Medecine for Cervical Spinal Stenosis with Myelopathy because I don't have a terminal diagnosis. So just suffer and wait to die because I am still breathing.
try some KRATOM !
avascular necrosis of hips is f-ing my life up. was a pro ballet dancer now i can’t do shiii
but what is in yoga making the cortical areas thicker......is it the breathing, the movements or both?
I'm certain there's good information here, but it is so stinking difficult to understand people who "cannot communicate in full sentences", useing tangents in every broken sentence. 😒
Does this also have to do with Nuroplasticity? It would seem so as any form of meditation helps to build it.
Yes. Theres a ted talk about that ...
Do you know the speaker?
My regular Dr. retired, the interim Doctor wants to cure my CRPS/chronic pain with physical Therapy. I have not changed or increased my pain medication. This provider will cost me my life if this doesn't work. I am not nice to be around when I have pain. CRPS is non-stop pain.
Are fibromyalgia patient screened for Myasthenia Gravis ? There is a lot of crossover in symptoms.
What's that?
I had no idea they were similar. My mother has myasthenia, she functions better at 65 than I do at 32.
So what? Does this mean back chronic pain sufferers high risk of Dementia or what what does it mean
Kind of. Correlation seems to have a small R², i would say 0.5 or less (see the extremely scattered dots?). So, not very strong actually. Moreover, depression is often correlated with that type of backpain. So, brain changes could be due to depression. Who knows? I wish i had more data.
@@zhabo3963 now I get the brains change to depression!!! I don't even remember who I was before hurting like this.
@@brt-jn7kg still i guess that people with depression are likely to develop some sort of dementia or juvenile brain atrophy due to their ainability to use and exercise their brain. Everything is boring. No more stimuli. No input. No outputs. Sleep deprivation is also correlated with fucked u brains. So depression, c pain and insommia combo is shittty for your brain. I know i know. Its 3 am where i live and cannot sleep. Cryed for 1 hour and now im here to distract my brain. I switch off my brain and do dumb shit to calm my ass like dumb games on my phone or yt binge watching (i feel like it controls tears time, so it became an addiction). Yoga is what gave me some real relieve. Meditation and certain asanas and static exercises for back and abdomen. I guess i need more painkillers rather than antidepressants. I feel pain. Backpain. Mental or spiritual pain. Pain. Pain. Pain. pure bold pain.
@@brt-jn7kg you have to find a New person to be, allow yourself to grieve the old life you had and accept that is gone, but that doesn't mean you can't create a New life within the new limits. Everything is a trade off, it is just an exercise in adapting to find a way to be fulfilled in a new way. Gratitude daily for the small things helps alot
@@zhabo3963 yes you need kindness and understanding and no judgement.I get you … don’t let others put you down by questioning your situation. Be the love to yourself others can’t afford to give u
Neuromusculoskeletal pain / trigger points can be attributed to < 51% of chronic pain
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I hate She says: they are really in pain ..... I wish pain at least for some tone for everyone who says they are really in pain .... what do you mean by their are really? :((;;
Yeah i dont know. Maybe some people that experience pain but no evidence is found in their body (eg depressed people that feel some discomfort while no physical evidence is detected) do not really show "conventional" pain activity in their brain. I dont really know. I dont even know how pain works. Still horrible. Pain is invisible to some people. As long as it's not them, no pain is there.
@@zhabo3963 No evidence in their body? : Doctors are not advanced to know abs find all evidence in people s body. In fact our knowledge in exploring human body is very limited. Be cautious in how you use words with your limited knowledge.
Okay I first I want to give some background on myself. When I was a baby age of 9 months. My father and I were in a car train accident. It was icy out and Dad thought the car was going to be hit by the train so he grabbed me and he jumped. Unfortunately slipping on ice we were both sucked under the train. Dad was able to pull himself out. But tiny me got continually ran over until the train is able to stop. Dad lost a leg above ankle on his left side. Sadly I lost both my legs my left side above knee and on the right a hip disarticulation. I'm 47 now, and I'm in so much nerve pain that it makes me suicidal. On top of the chronic pain from amputations I've had a lumbar laminectomy to remove an arachnoid cyst. A failed spinal stimulation TENS unit surgery. And I've had to have my neck fused at C 6 and 7. Both my elbows shoulders severely arthritic. My right elbow has to be replaced this year as there's no joint left. The doctor could stick his finger between the bones in my elbow at the last surgery. My right elbow has had 27 surgeries to keep me going. I live in 10 out of 10 pain everyday. The only thing that helps is the medical cannabis as a breakthrough on top of 20 mg of methadone. That just keeps it at a level to where I can tolerate things a little better. I know it's going to continue to get worse and I'm scared. I'm scared of my senior years. A question I have for you is you were talking about the gray matter and white matter and sense chronic pain sufferers have has changed in our brains how is that affecting us? This why I'm so depressed all the time, why become so introverted, why I've lost all enjoyment of doing things? Live in small area in Illinois I just can't find the right help especially being mentally wise. No one understand. I need to talk to somebody but nothing works. Could you recommend a good doctor to talk to that would understand
Fucking a man.. your a badass drummer too. Thank you for sharing. Your dad took action.
Wow! You have a right to be suicidal. You didn't cause your disability and your Dad didn't either. He tried to save your life and his. This is a awful thing that happened to you. I pray that you get the help you need.
Im praying for you. Know people care about you and I hope you have found a good dr. Have you tried meditation? It might sound silly but don’t knock it til you try it. Please try to think of the good things and enjoy life while you can.
nothing like healthy people speechifying about people in pain can just go think them self's well again with a yoga bear idea , people in pain are suffering now in real time, this CDC debacle needs fixing (90 mg per day max) , talk about that first ! , then this other stuff at some other time , before one day due to misfortune you might be the one in pain , then be like us millions now , the old , the injured , the sick , , suffering due to no fault of our own , talk about THAT!!! , maybe yogi can think covid-19 away to
Very hard to understand this speech. Broken sentences.
What happened to her brain?!!! Funny these people r the ones who want to educate others about chronic pain patients. No wonder they speak nonsense.
@@shahilagh I believe this lady is full of it... She would have to have chronic pain to even understand what she is even talking about. She can't even speak a full comprehensive sentence. It's a joke!
@@cyanidecupcake231 you don't know is she herself doesn't have it!!
Fibromyalgia is a wastebasket diagnosis! "COLORADO!"