This is sick. As much as I like to complain about how things are handled, it’s still good to remember what makes us fall in love with this game of ours.
@@Doncergio I’m working on it. Turns out the creatures that are the game’s namesake have a lot of content to them, and I bit off more than I could chew as usual lol.
Still playing with the same gang from back in the 70's. Our weekly game session is tonight. We switched over to Pathfinder when 4e came out and we're still on it (1E). No regrets.
Mr. Perkins, if you ever for some reason read this, I am one of those people. I'm part of the hobby because I randomly stumbled across an Acquisitions Inc video on youtube. Seeing the game actually being played, and your style of dungeon mastering specifically, ignited a passion for the game in me. Thank you.
This video was really well done, congrats! I especially liked hearing from Ed Greenwood, and how candidly he spoke about TSR/WotC's mistakes in the past (i.e. Gygax being pushed out of his own company, TSR shopping around for a new setting to replace Greyhawk, 4th edition). I imagine these aren't things that WotC themselves are comfortable going into detail about, so it was refreshing to hear an "insider" talk about these topics.
I don't remember how we got our first contact with DnD. But I do remember my first game. My brother put together a game, very akward start, never played again with this group due to how hard it was to get together, but I went online next with Adventurer's League for a single session too. Lost track of things, but somehow ended up in a long-term campaign and I'm still playing with those now, having become a DM myself for Grim Hollow !
Thank you so much for posting this! Love, seeing all the history and the inspirations from the current design team. These kinds of records keep the tradition alive.
I only started really playing and running DnD with 3rd edition, so I never really played 2e, but I absolutely love 2E for what they did with the settings, even if that turned out to be part of TSR's downfall in the end. 3.5 (and later on Pathfinder 1st) might be my favorite rule system of all time (and I also love the 3E FR supplements, especially the 3E FRCS), but that stuff they did for the Realms, Planescape and all those other settings during 2E was golden. Main reason I never got into the newer editions is the way they treat the settings even when I appreciate how they opened them up for fan authors to create in. I still peruse stuff written for 4E and 5E, but I'll probably never return to the game itself, because I'm just not interested in any of their versions of the Realms after 3.5.
They showed them for a hot second here. But yeah, talk about a quick gloss over my most favorite of all the editions and why it has arguably the most retroclones today.
I agree- The briefly showed my blue box with the dragon on the cover sitting on my bookshelf. It wasn’t that useful play wise, but it was enough to hook my friends and I to look for the hard cover books.
It would of been around '85 to '86 the first time i played D&D with my friends. I quickly had my mom buy me the red box set . Still have them , and my first set of "crystal dice"! Great memories
Great stuff. Nice to see a positive video about the creators over the decades. Are Hasbro a large corporation run by the usual Executives, yes, but the people “at the coal face” still care about the game. Thank you. 🖖
Forgotten Realms will always be the world of choice for me. Just learning about the regions, the cultures, the intrigues... there is so much flavor in every bite. As a DM, Forgotten Realms is the garden in which so many creative ideas find nourishment, take root, and grow into amazing things. Even different time periods in Realms history are viable. No other setting seems to limitless. I'm glad it is still going strong.
I always loved the lore and idea of FR, but I just couldn't play in it. It always felt like the sandbox was too full of kids to give me the room to play how I wanted. BUT, I always took inspiration from reading the lore and FR materials. Definitely a very cool setting, just not for me (as a DM).
In the last so many years I have gone from relative ignorance (slight awareness of seeing D&Dbox sets and having watched the cartoon series as a child) to having watched hundreds of hours of gameplay and immersed daily in the worlds of dungeons and dragons via the books. And all because I stumbled on an aquisitions incorporated GM’d by Perkins and enjoyed it so much I went right back to session zero to watch from the beginning. Some kudos need also be given to the authors who have helped craft the world and timelines of D&D, and add much more depth to places and characters than any manual could.
I miss the 2nd ed "players guide to X". Wonderful color that completely optional to the base game. My friends and I bought the books for the classes we loved, and they remain some of my favorite books.
I absolutely loved 2E and the Domains! I only use 3 main Deities in my game (and a few minors), but each Deity has multiple "churches" that worship them ( basically light / dark / neutral factions of worshippers). Domains allowed me to customize the spell lists for each "church" for each Deity. That give a very distinct difference in flavor between worshippers of the Harvester (life, growth, etc) and that of the Dark Harvest (death, decay, etc). I miss domains 😞
I really wish there was more of an effort to re-release older campaigns from decades ago. There's so many great, historic campaigns that have just been left to fade into obscurity throughout the years. I really hope someday they make some form of classic campaign collections for sale, even if they make no effort into updating it into newer versions of DnD, it'd be fun to still have them to both keep the history alive, also, I imagine they'd make great collectibles for those of us who already have everything from the past 20-25 years, and are looking for physical versions of stuff from the 80's for example. DnD has a long history, cherish it.
Started playing in HS, 1975, with the white box, three pamphlets and the one of each colored polyhedral dice. We wore those "books" out, I had to stitch mine back together with some of mom's yarn. Played at Gygax's table in 1978 (uh, not so great an experience). Things have changed a lot, mainly for the better. But the most interesting thing I've seen in all these years is not even in D&D, it's the rise of the oracles systems.
Bit sad that Basic and Expert is always overlooked in retrospectives. It’s practically more influential to today with the OSR scene, rpgs jn japan, and the concept/paytesting of 5e than AD&D
As kid growing up and first experiencing 2e, leaving hobby before 3e and coming back a year ago trying everything-B/X (and the retroclones) are by far my favorite.
Amazing video. btw, i just rejoined your video as owa. My original account was hacked on July 21, and although discord kicked the hacker out of the account, i was never able to recover the old one, so i created a new one, though have been working on other issues on discord since i have my own server to deal with. However, i am glad to be back.
Please.....always keep printing in books...when things goes 100% digital it loses the soul and magic. There is something special about pen and paper and sitting with stacks of books that goes to the backbone of Dungeons & Dragons.
At 13:00 Jeremy talking about making the game accessible to everyone are words from the exec team. More people = more money. Call me skeptical, but all the things he is talking about is a dilution and an ambiguity of the game. Imagine if tennis promoters wanted to encourage other people to join, so they included different balls, being able to throw and catch the ball, playing on a baseball mound... you get my point.
Let me tell ya about 4th edition. Many of the people on that staff (Imo) were forced into things they didn't like. I HATED WITH A PASSION what they did to MY FORGOTTEN REALMS. And when I say "MY" I'm representing 100s of DMs who took FR & made it their own yet were "going along" with printed Canon. The 100 yr jump WAS POINTLESS. I left the game in that moment. When I came back to DM my grandson & his friends for his birthday party 5e had been out awhile. So I decided to write a treatment & a screenplay for a discussed Netflix FR series. That submission was looked at, and it was decided they'd go the 1 movie route. Subsequently, I started writing a "Legacy Series" set of FR adventures.. Then the OGL debacle happened. I love Ed & his world but WoTC & their corporate bullies have left me bitter & more motivated than ever to publish my own world. And WoTC won't get 1 red cent.. thanks for reading..
Congrats to Lorraine, who pulled off one of the biggest coups in history. She not only removed Gygax, but apparently totally erased all memory of him from modern day gamers. This is one of the saddest videos I have ever watched. Talk about the gorilla in the room… before Gygax, the idea of creating a playable game based on fantasy was never done. Gary invented this entire concept. The whole idea of RPGs, fantasy video games, and any kind of game based on fantasy all started with one man. Gary was barely mentioned in this video at all, only in passing. It is a sad state of affairs to be sure. Men like Stan Lee and Sid Meier are revered as elder statesman of their genre, but Gary Gygax - the founder of fantasy gaming - does not even warrant a mention in a video about the history of D&D. Terrible video, and it just makes me sad to see in every way… Older gamers may understand and even appreciate my comment, but I think younger ones may not, simply because they do not have the perspective and knowledge of the breadth of Gary’s accomplishments. The only silver lining I can take away from this video is the fact that the game has not only survived, but thrived over the last half century. Unlike the people in this video, I hope the younger generation could look back and appreciate the man who created this entire concept. Everyone in the fantasy gaming industry owes Gary Gygax a debt of gratitude.
D&D being "able to be so many different things you want" is exactly something that runs against a well designed system. It's like asking "What is your defining personality?" and answering "ALL THE PERSONALITIES!". So, either it's a bad direction, or Crawford was really, really sugar-coating with this PR statement.
You know. I've been looking into it. I am basically with you. The last ten years has been repackaging 4e for the sensitive dndorks (which includes me). With the new book, we now have 4e lite with a bunch of words.
It would be amazing to hear from the talented writers behind the new books, but sadly, they're now out on the streets without jobs. So instead, why not have a chat with the Pinkertons about their experience in "handling" families who dare to market children's playing cards? Or maybe we could get some insights from the AI that will soon be handling the art and microtransactions for the new virtual tabletop! If we play our cards right as "Influencers," we might even get a paid vacation and some money under the table! All we have to do is rave about how wonderful and "balanced" the new books are, especially when it comes to the martial/magic class disparity!
Im a 3.5 man. Once Wotc went to 4e and turned their back on the D20 game engine without so much as a single thought but thoughtlessly into a new game engine with no 3.5 support or ability to transition because its a completely different game engine then right into 5E again absolutely a different game engine that was also not back compatible I lost all respect and interest in the new stuff. 5E is a dumbed down version of a game that was already a masterpiece. I have a lot more to say about 5E but Ill leave it alone.
This is sick. As much as I like to complain about how things are handled, it’s still good to remember what makes us fall in love with this game of ours.
ArchChad
HOLY SHIT WAKE UP BABE NEW ARCHLICH
Where's my dragons video Archie? I am craving for the dragons video!
@@Doncergio I’m working on it. Turns out the creatures that are the game’s namesake have a lot of content to them, and I bit off more than I could chew as usual lol.
@@The_Archlich 🙏 bless, I love your stuff dude!!
Ed Greenwood is such a treasure.
We agree! He was great to interview.
Meeting him and RA Salvatore at the 30th anniversay Gen Con and listening to them arguing about stuff involving Drizzt and Elminster was amazing.
Still playing with the same gang from back in the 70's. Our weekly game session is tonight. We switched over to Pathfinder when 4e came out and we're still on it (1E). No regrets.
I love Ed Greenwood saying that he sold them Forgotten Realms because he wanted a color map.
Mr. Perkins, if you ever for some reason read this, I am one of those people. I'm part of the hobby because I randomly stumbled across an Acquisitions Inc video on youtube. Seeing the game actually being played, and your style of dungeon mastering specifically, ignited a passion for the game in me. Thank you.
I love to hear people who loved playing the game and are involved in the making of the game
This video was really well done, congrats! I especially liked hearing from Ed Greenwood, and how candidly he spoke about TSR/WotC's mistakes in the past (i.e. Gygax being pushed out of his own company, TSR shopping around for a new setting to replace Greyhawk, 4th edition). I imagine these aren't things that WotC themselves are comfortable going into detail about, so it was refreshing to hear an "insider" talk about these topics.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it.
I don't remember how we got our first contact with DnD. But I do remember my first game.
My brother put together a game, very akward start, never played again with this group due to how hard it was to get together, but I went online next with Adventurer's League for a single session too.
Lost track of things, but somehow ended up in a long-term campaign and I'm still playing with those now, having become a DM myself for Grim Hollow !
Thank you so much for posting this! Love, seeing all the history and the inspirations from the current design team. These kinds of records keep the tradition alive.
I still love 2e - Dm'ed that for ten years straight with 9 players.
I only started really playing and running DnD with 3rd edition, so I never really played 2e, but I absolutely love 2E for what they did with the settings, even if that turned out to be part of TSR's downfall in the end. 3.5 (and later on Pathfinder 1st) might be my favorite rule system of all time (and I also love the 3E FR supplements, especially the 3E FRCS), but that stuff they did for the Realms, Planescape and all those other settings during 2E was golden. Main reason I never got into the newer editions is the way they treat the settings even when I appreciate how they opened them up for fan authors to create in. I still peruse stuff written for 4E and 5E, but I'll probably never return to the game itself, because I'm just not interested in any of their versions of the Realms after 3.5.
Been looking forward to watching this all day. Darn work got in the way!
Also this is just proof that the players are the driving force behind the game.
Been playing off and on since 1980. So much fun.
surprised they completely skipped over basic D&D I first cut my teeth on the red box.
They showed them for a hot second here. But yeah, talk about a quick gloss over my most favorite of all the editions and why it has arguably the most retroclones today.
I agree- The briefly showed my blue box with the dragon on the cover sitting on my bookshelf. It wasn’t that useful play wise, but it was enough to hook my friends and I to look for the hard cover books.
Amazing! It's awesome to see you get these guys' insights! O:
Elminster in flesh and blood.
"This is really cool" is a massive understatement of how as a kid I felt when seeing these books for the first time...
It would of been around '85 to '86 the first time i played D&D with my friends. I quickly had my mom buy me the red box set . Still have them , and my first set of "crystal dice"! Great memories
Great stuff. Nice to see a positive video about the creators over the decades. Are Hasbro a large corporation run by the usual Executives, yes, but the people “at the coal face” still care about the game. Thank you. 🖖
Forgotten Realms will always be the world of choice for me. Just learning about the regions, the cultures, the intrigues... there is so much flavor in every bite. As a DM, Forgotten Realms is the garden in which so many creative ideas find nourishment, take root, and grow into amazing things. Even different time periods in Realms history are viable. No other setting seems to limitless. I'm glad it is still going strong.
I always loved the lore and idea of FR, but I just couldn't play in it. It always felt like the sandbox was too full of kids to give me the room to play how I wanted. BUT, I always took inspiration from reading the lore and FR materials. Definitely a very cool setting, just not for me (as a DM).
Ive been interested in D&D since second edition. Finally got to play it for the first time this year 5E.
"No, I don't care," because I wanted color maps. I love to see that kind of passion.
Really nice interviews!
In the last so many years I have gone from relative ignorance (slight awareness of seeing D&Dbox sets and having watched the cartoon series as a child) to having watched hundreds of hours of gameplay and immersed daily in the worlds of dungeons and dragons via the books.
And all because I stumbled on an aquisitions incorporated GM’d by Perkins and enjoyed it so much I went right back to session zero to watch from the beginning.
Some kudos need also be given to the authors who have helped craft the world and timelines of D&D, and add much more depth to places and characters than any manual could.
I've been lucky enough to meet William Meinhart, who provided most of the pre-2000s resources shown in this video.
That guy with the beard looks like a wizard
He may just well be!
I miss the 2nd ed "players guide to X". Wonderful color that completely optional to the base game. My friends and I bought the books for the classes we loved, and they remain some of my favorite books.
Great video!
I absolutely loved 2E and the Domains! I only use 3 main Deities in my game (and a few minors), but each Deity has multiple "churches" that worship them ( basically light / dark / neutral factions of worshippers). Domains allowed me to customize the spell lists for each "church" for each Deity. That give a very distinct difference in flavor between worshippers of the Harvester (life, growth, etc) and that of the Dark Harvest (death, decay, etc).
I miss domains 😞
I really wish there was more of an effort to re-release older campaigns from decades ago.
There's so many great, historic campaigns that have just been left to fade into obscurity throughout the years.
I really hope someday they make some form of classic campaign collections for sale, even if they make no effort into updating it into newer versions of DnD, it'd be fun to still have them to both keep the history alive, also, I imagine they'd make great collectibles for those of us who already have everything from the past 20-25 years, and are looking for physical versions of stuff from the 80's for example.
DnD has a long history, cherish it.
Love you Ed!
Started playing in HS, 1975, with the white box, three pamphlets and the one of each colored polyhedral dice. We wore those "books" out, I had to stitch mine back together with some of mom's yarn. Played at Gygax's table in 1978 (uh, not so great an experience). Things have changed a lot, mainly for the better. But the most interesting thing I've seen in all these years is not even in D&D, it's the rise of the oracles systems.
"it used to be a hex-crawl" ... damn I feel old.
Bit sad that Basic and Expert is always overlooked in retrospectives. It’s practically more influential to today with the OSR scene, rpgs jn japan, and the concept/paytesting of 5e than AD&D
As kid growing up and first experiencing 2e, leaving hobby before 3e and coming back a year ago trying everything-B/X (and the retroclones) are by far my favorite.
1st Edition above all else!
I really miss those old single adventure small products. I guess they are not economic to make money off of but I still miss them.
I would have thought Chris and Jeremy would have started on red box basic where most of us in gen x started
I started with Moldvay and Cook, as the DM, and then Advanced D&D. To this day, I luv Advanced D&D over all. However, I enjoy 5E.
thing was in the 80s playing eithre edition at the time I never used greyhawk or mystara it was always my own homebrew world
Amazing video.
btw, i just rejoined your video as owa. My original account was hacked on July 21, and although discord kicked the hacker out of the account, i was never able to recover the old one, so i created a new one, though have been working on other issues on discord since i have my own server to deal with. However, i am glad to be back.
I was 23 in 1999 & in prison when I learned to play.
D&D BECMI is the best. Just buy Rules Cyclopedia and be free. Only one book with everything you need to play.
Thief and demi races are nerfed in rules cyclopedia and Companion set upwards .
Elminster Greenwood
sometimes Japan forgets they got alot of their rpg ideas from these guys
I won dungeons and dragons!! And it was Advanced!!
Hey it’s Ed Greenwood…..auto click.
Is this part of a larger documentary I could watch? Or what is one that you would recommend?
You should watch SECRETS OF BLACKMOOR for the real story❤
D&D begins with Braunsteins and Blackmoor. Watch the real story at SECRETS OF BLACKMOOR....
Please.....always keep printing in books...when things goes 100% digital it loses the soul and magic. There is something special about pen and paper and sitting with stacks of books that goes to the backbone of Dungeons & Dragons.
4e❤
D&D went from greatness to it's current form of hot garbage.
At 13:00 Jeremy talking about making the game accessible to everyone are words from the exec team. More people = more money. Call me skeptical, but all the things he is talking about is a dilution and an ambiguity of the game. Imagine if tennis promoters wanted to encourage other people to join, so they included different balls, being able to throw and catch the ball, playing on a baseball mound... you get my point.
D&D Begone
Let me tell ya about 4th edition. Many of the people on that staff (Imo) were forced into things they didn't like. I HATED WITH A PASSION what they did to MY FORGOTTEN REALMS. And when I say "MY" I'm representing 100s of DMs who took FR & made it their own yet were "going along" with printed Canon. The 100 yr jump WAS POINTLESS. I left the game in that moment.
When I came back to DM my grandson & his friends for his birthday party 5e had been out awhile. So I decided to write a treatment & a screenplay for a discussed Netflix FR series. That submission was looked at, and it was decided they'd go the 1 movie route. Subsequently, I started writing a "Legacy Series" set of FR adventures.. Then the OGL debacle happened.
I love Ed & his world but WoTC & their corporate bullies have left me bitter & more motivated than ever to publish my own world. And WoTC won't get 1 red cent.. thanks for reading..
Congrats to Lorraine, who pulled off one of the biggest coups in history. She not only removed Gygax, but apparently totally erased all memory of him from modern day gamers. This is one of the saddest videos I have ever watched. Talk about the gorilla in the room… before Gygax, the idea of creating a playable game based on fantasy was never done. Gary invented this entire concept. The whole idea of RPGs, fantasy video games, and any kind of game based on fantasy all started with one man. Gary was barely mentioned in this video at all, only in passing. It is a sad state of affairs to be sure. Men like Stan Lee and Sid Meier are revered as elder statesman of their genre, but Gary Gygax - the founder of fantasy gaming - does not even warrant a mention in a video about the history of D&D. Terrible video, and it just makes me sad to see in every way…
Older gamers may understand and even appreciate my comment, but I think younger ones may not, simply because they do not have the perspective and knowledge of the breadth of Gary’s accomplishments.
The only silver lining I can take away from this video is the fact that the game has not only survived, but thrived over the last half century. Unlike the people in this video, I hope the younger generation could look back and appreciate the man who created this entire concept. Everyone in the fantasy gaming industry owes Gary Gygax a debt of gratitude.
Did this dude seriously say that hexcrawls are not common nowadays, hahahaha, lmao.
You guys didn’t figure out that NPCs had motivations until Ravenloft? Really?
D&D being "able to be so many different things you want" is exactly something that runs against a well designed system.
It's like asking "What is your defining personality?" and answering "ALL THE PERSONALITIES!".
So, either it's a bad direction, or Crawford was really, really sugar-coating with this PR statement.
4e is still the best edition
Thats quite a stretch
@@coldstream11 It's my personal opinion. 4e > BECMI/RC > 2e > BX > 5e > 1e > Basic > 3/3.5 > OD&D
You know. I've been looking into it. I am basically with you. The last ten years has been repackaging 4e for the sensitive dndorks (which includes me). With the new book, we now have 4e lite with a bunch of words.
@@Arcboltkonrad13 Above becmi and BX? That's beyond the pale.
And now AI is gonna do all the work. It's a sad, sad ending.
It would be amazing to hear from the talented writers behind the new books, but sadly, they're now out on the streets without jobs. So instead, why not have a chat with the Pinkertons about their experience in "handling" families who dare to market children's playing cards? Or maybe we could get some insights from the AI that will soon be handling the art and microtransactions for the new virtual tabletop!
If we play our cards right as "Influencers," we might even get a paid vacation and some money under the table! All we have to do is rave about how wonderful and "balanced" the new books are, especially when it comes to the martial/magic class disparity!
Sweet Lord I hate WotC
As do I, but I love dnd. Just not the dnd they are currently making
How on earth does the worst edition of D&D, 4e, get more coverage that the hands down best, 3.5?
Hands down? Lol biased much?
4e sucked but lots of people don’t like3.5
3.5 burnt me out - I'd rate 2e as the best personally.
Crawford & Perkins the worst game designers in D&D's historie😢.
Lol I needed a good laugh
Perkins is the only one remaining in Wotc that has good ideas
Creatof?
Im a 3.5 man. Once Wotc went to 4e and turned their back on the D20 game engine without so much as a single thought but thoughtlessly into a new game engine with no 3.5 support or ability to transition because its a completely different game engine then right into 5E again absolutely a different game engine that was also not back compatible I lost all respect and interest in the new stuff. 5E is a dumbed down version of a game that was already a masterpiece. I have a lot more to say about 5E but Ill leave it alone.