Nuvo Eco Ceramic Coffee Roaster Use & Review
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- The Nuvo Eco Ceramic Coffee Roaster use & review is a hand held manual coffee roaster that is inexpensive, but is it any good? We answer that question and talk about how to roast great coffee with the Nuvo Ceramic Coffee roaster. It only took me 2 roasts to figure out how to roast some decent coffee which tells me that anyone can do it.
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Video Timeline
0:00 Nuvo Eco Ceramic Coffee Roaster
2:45 First Roast Attempt
6:38 Second Roast Experience
11:50 Tasting the second roast
14:42 Would I recommend this roaster?
15:38 Pro's - What I liked about the Nuvo Ceramic Coffee Roaster
20:30 Con's - What I didn't like about the Nuvo Ceramic Coffee Roaster
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Very nice, refreshing change from the norm. You'll surely be inspiring many to just get cooking!
Thanks for watching. Yea, it's good to change things up a little. The poll has really helped me better understand my audience.
I really enjoyed your video again Mike ☕☕👍
Glad you enjoyed it Shane, Thank you!
Excited to try this, I’m still relatively new to roasting. One very thoughtful wife later, I’m up an SR540 *and* one of these.
One thing I didn’t expect to see in this video, but am glad I did, was your mentioning the *fast but acceptable* dry phase in the hot air roaster. For awhile, I felt like I was cheating the system, going against facts and wisdom regarding timing, phases, profiles, etc. I still do. I feel like I get to turn a blind eye to a lot of the available information because it just hasn’t *needed* to apply to my situation yet. But still getting very tasty results (at least to my new palette).
WHY it works, in the case of the hot air roaster, actually makes sense to me. Convection. If the primary source of heat in most other roasters is radiation from hot metal or ceramic, it totally makes sense that it would take longer to evenly heat the beans. Where in the hot air roaster, pun intended, it would blow right through them.
That said, I may be in for a reality check when I heat this ceramic thing up soon. Looking forward to it.
Thanks for all the info.
Hi Max, I appreciate the "out-loud" thinking and you are spot on with the difference in heat transfer between convection and conduction. What you will find when roasting with the Nuvo Eco is it is difficult to control the heat. In my experience, if too much heat is applied during the dry phase, as soon as the beans begin to yellow the roast quickly takes off and races to first crack. It seems to take some time to get the momentum going in the roast BUT once it gets going it moves quickly.
The one thing I don't like about the Nuvo Eco is how hot it gets in the hand while roasting.
Let me know your thoughts on the Nuvo. Happy Roasting!
Thx for the video helped me realize my charge temp has been too high using my hot air popper, most of my roast are in the 6-7 min range controlling temp is my biggest issue.
I'm Glad you watched the video and it was helpful Marc!
Nice video. Can't wait for a follow-up video with more practice and tips.
Hi Zane, thanks for watching my video and your comment. More than likely I will use the Hive roaster before I use the Nuvo. They are both stove top roasters but the Hive has a larger capacity and gives a better roast. Do you have a Nuvo? Have you seen my Hive video?
@@VirtualCoffeeLab I have a Nuvo and I have seen your hive video.
We have similar item for roasting coffee in Eritrea. It's called Menkeshkesh. If you wash your coffee beans (with water only) a couple times and drain them well before roasting, it'll allow you to control/slow down the roasting in the drying stage. But washing also gives you less earthy flavor - making the coffee smoother in the mouth.
Thanks for sharing that. I have seen Ethiopian roasting before and it is really interesting. I think the idea o using water with this Nuvo could be interesting and help slow the roast a little.
Very interesting way of roasting coffee Mike! I could see using this in outdoor adventures like camping or even over a backyard fire pit. Like you said, using a roaster like this, and others like maybe a frying pan forces us to use our senses because we really don't have any other data. At this point in my Behmor roasting, I am actually glad I do not have a bunch of data and charts and such because it causes me to depend heavily on my senses. Will I someday move on to a higher tech roaster? I certainly think so. But I will never EVER forget about my senses and am thinking they will always be part of roasting, and I will always make use of them. Nice video!
Hi Lou, it will be interesting to see what you end up moving to for your next roaster. For me, having a graph isn't a bad thing, and it can really help keep me on the straight and narrow BUT detaching my senses from the roast is where I miss the opportunity for great coffee by using my senses. Glad you liked the video. I'm glad your Behmor is treating you well!
I have one and did not get a good result. I’ll give a try with you suggestions. Thank you for the video.
@@johnsnow3602 My results were better than a popcorn popper but not "stellar" results. With more practice I could probably get better.
I am new nuvo eco roaster user. Seems like a guess every time on charging temperature. First time reaching dry took 15-20 minutes but charging at ambient air temp. Thanks for tips on this.
Thanks for watching my video and your comments Gerald. It took me 4 1/2 minutes to get to dry end.. I can only assume that my pre-heat to 220 helped move things along. Are you using a gas flame to roast or electric? These types of roasters work best with a flame. 15-2.0 is way too long. How far away from the flame was your roaster? We’re you continually swirling the coffee? I did a roast using the hive titled “taking control of your roast” which uses a similar roasting method. You might want to take a look at that video as well? Share how you are hearing the nuvo Gerald so I can provide more feedback. Thanks!
Going to try this. Great review!
How long do you have to wait to grind a roast?
Hi Bob. It depends on the coffee and how dark you roast. I would give it a few days and then go for it. I have roasted and brewed right away but the coffee should degas/rest.
I used a Nuvo very happily for awhile before upgrading to a Hive (for data logging and higher capacity). I do miss the great visibility and how forgiving ceramic is (because of thermal mass) compared to stainless steel. I don't miss the low capacity.
I used an electric stove, that took a little bit of practice but was fine once I got the hang of it. I would typically preheat on my small (Nuvo-sized) element on medium for 5 minutes then charge and soak off the heat for 1 minute, then watch the clock and swirl a few times every 10 seconds, leaving it on the heat the rest of the time (so about 7 seconds on, 3 seconds swirling). When it approaches first crack, swirl more often (less time on the element).
Hi Fugalh, thanks for watching my video and for sharing how you roast with your Nuvo. I like the preheat! One thing I noticed on the Nuvo was the handle got really hot for me. Is that why you are setting it down?
I love the Hive roaster. I'm using the digital version that shows temp readings, not the artisan version. Are you able to have good control with your ROR with the Hive? Just curious about your experience.
No, I set it down because otherwise it doesn't get hot enough (unlike over a gas flame). It might if I used the big burner and cranked it up high, then swirled above the element instead a la a gas flame - I would definitely need a glove then. But with medium heat and most of the transfer happening by conduction I don't need a glove, the leather handle is fine.
I am only a handful of roasts in with my hive. I got the digital version you mention but upgraded to a Phidget 1051 a couple weeks ago to bring it into Artisan. I'm still learning to control the heat (with my electric range … or maybe I'll get a gas camp stove) but I think I'll get it soon - at first I was getting scorching but my last few roasts have been nice and now I just need to dial it in.
Nice. Glad you are experiencing some success. I would be interested to see what your artisan profile looks like once you get comfortable with the roaster.
Hello! Do you have recommended times for each stage of the process? I'm new to roasting and got this from a friend.
Thanks for your question and for watching Tshep117. I would suggest you watch my video "3 tips for new home coffee roasters" where I explain some of that. Basically it can vary depending on the roaster you are using BUT for most, 50/30/20 is a great place to start. 50% dry phase, 30% Browning phase and 20% development. Your roasting level will also influence this. Then there is total roast time to consider. That can be anywhere from 7 minutes to 12 minutes give or take a little. What type of roaster do you have?
I'm late to the party but I just bought this roaster after watching this video to confirm it's not a waste of money
It's the first time ever I try to roast coffee myself, and for my first cup I'm definitely satisfied with the outcome, though I'm surprised at how clear my coffee was when I poured it. I'm used to coffee being dark, even when it's supposed to be light. It tasted good, and smelled good while I was grinding it, but I just want to be sure I didn't mess up somewhere. Is it supposed to be light brown? I'm gonna try a darker coffee next time.
In any case, thanks for the video, I'm only discovering your channel now because it took me forever to take that first step, and I was able to brew a nice coffee thanks to you!
I’m glad you gave it a shot. Nice job. 👍. If it tastes good don’t worry about the color of the brown. Most likely you roasted this coffee lighter than what you have been buying in the store or from Starbucks. The Hive roaster is larger and will do a better job roasting. So if you want to up your capacity you might want to consider that.
Thanks for watching and sharing.
Thank you for your answer! I definitely plan on upgrading to a Hive eventually, but for now I'd like to get consistent results with the Nuvo!
I tried to familiarise myself with the different roasting phases, I think on my first roast I didn't wait long enough after first crack. I'm pretty sure drying phase took way too long too. I tried again earlier and got a much darker batch, which also tasted better, though I'm not sure I let the beans rest long enough. I've heard people say it should be around 72h, should I wait that long?
@@GeonXP89 the darker the roast the shorter the rest time. So, wait a day or two for dark roasts and maybe 3-5 days for medium or light roasts. I usually wait a couple of days before I drink my medium coffee which will last me about a week.
Ok! I let it rest overnight, so that was much too short
Thanks for the tip!
Yay :) Glad I found this video. I've been using a zenroast (similar type of roaster as this) for the past couple months. Your videos have been really helpful - before, I was really rushing through the drying/browning phase because I was so afraid of having "flat" coffee - in the end that just left me with really bitter one-note coffee that wasn't much fun to roast, brew, or drink. I've finally managed to make coffee that I actually enjoy drinking because of your videos, so thank you :)
This type of roaster is actually called a horoku (焙烙) - it's a traditional Japanese device used for roasting tea (ほうじ茶, hojicha), sesame seeds, etc. I think that's why the handle is so short: tea roasts very quickly, so a longer handle isn't really necessary.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your roasting journey. I’m glad my videos have been helpful! I didn’t know about the sesame seeds and tea. Interesting 🤔
I noticed that you are occasionally checking the temperature DURING the roast. Are you trying to keep it at a consistent temperature at all times? What temp? I am assuming if it's getting to hot or cold you bring it nearer or further away from your flame? Thanks! Great video!
Hi Tom, thanks for watching my video. Yes,some of the temp checks were monitoring temperatures to learn how my height from the flame influences them. Other temp checks were on the bean itself to see where i was in the roast phase process. I'm not trying to keep a consistent temp, rather trying to coordinate/time my next event coming (dry, first crack). I think, with practice, I could hold a fairly consistent temp. Do you roast with the Nuvo Eco?
@@VirtualCoffeeLab I thought I could roast in my cast iron pan. It was a disaster and I am studying to see what the best ‘inexpensive’ but consistent roasting method is and then purchase it. I’m really excited to get started but not sure which way to go? Any suggestions as to what you think is the best option for me?
Tom, no brainer, go with the Hive digital display unit like I have. It gives great roasting results. See this video ua-cam.com/video/shnQf3fsoxg/v-deo.html
@@VirtualCoffeeLab Didn’t even see this one! Awesome! Thanks so much. I will be purchasing
@@VirtualCoffeeLab best place to purchase this Hive? How much did you pay for this? Thanks again
Hello from cold Russia! I recently began to practice coffee roasting on such a device, only of our Russian production. Very fun activity though! I wanted to ask you to share your experience in this matter, namely, how would you recommend doing a medium roast on it, for example, beans from Ethiopia? At what temperature (in Celsius) should grain be loaded, how much time should be allowed for drying, if, for example, the total roasting time is 12 minutes, and what temperatures should be maintained in the process, after the completion of the grain drying stage and after the first crack? It would be great if you take the time to share your experience! Thanks
Hello Alexey, Thank you for your comment and for watching my videos!
I have not had success monitoring temperatures with the small ceramic type of roaster. Here is my suggestion you try to achieve your medium ethiopian roast.
I would suggest you consider time as a way to monitor and control your roast development. How long do you want to roast your coffee (total roast time)? Let's say you want to have a total roast time of 10 minutes. You would want to have your heat set so it takes about 5 minutes to have the beans turn all yellow (no green). Then another 3 minutes to get your beans to first crack. Then, another 1 1/2 minutes to finish the roast and drop the beans. Try using that method to control your heat. Use your smell, sight, sound to adjust the pace of your roast. Let me know what happens.
@@VirtualCoffeeLab Thank you! In this case, the main thing is practice, I will try with different temperatures, a very exciting activity! Good luck and a peaceful sky over your head!
I have a Nuvo, and my stove is a flat-top electric stove. I am not expert at roasting coffee by any means, I gather an IR thermometer might be key to getting this right? Would a thermo-couple or an instant read meat thermometer work? I notice you seem to really like the Hive roaster, is there any reason not to simply learn on the roaster I already have? How do I get good at managing the right temperature on an electric stove throughout the roast?
Hi Jonathan, thanks for your comment and for watching my video. The IR thermometer is very helpful so you know what is happening with your roaster temps. If you watch my last Sweet Marias Popper video you will see that i use a meat thermometer with an extension probe that i place right in the bean mass. I think this could work perfectly with the Nuvo. You could slip it through the handle right into the bean mass.
If the Nuvo is working for you then there is no reason to move to the hive. The advantage of the hive roaster is it's capacity. You can roast for the week rather than just for 1 or 2 cups of coffee. The other advantage is the design of the dome. It really does incinerate much of the smoke and chaff and because of it's design, also has good airflow through the device. It is also more durable AND if you buy the digital dome that displays the temp OR the one that plugs into artisan you get more info about your roast.
I have not roasted on an electric surface but there is a helpful comment posted by @fugalh that might help give you some helpful ideas with electric stove tops. He gives very specific steps roasting with the Nuvo on electric. By the way, he has the hive as well. Look for his comment here in this video comment area.
@@VirtualCoffeeLab Very useful information - thanks! I copied this elsewhere along with @ fugalh's feedback. I have ordered an IR thermometer for now, it arrives Monday, I'll give it another spin then.
Jonathan, I forgot to mention that the Hive does not perform the same on an electric cook-top surface. I'm not sure if the manufacturer is talking about any electric OR if it is one of the ceramic glass infrared cook-tops. For some reason the conductivity is different? If you get to a point where you are seriously considering the Hive, do some research or talk with the manufacturer about this so you know its limitations. I think Matt (Hive Owner) recommends buying a camping stove as an inexpensive option...FYI
@@VirtualCoffeeLab Ah, that's good to know. My IR thermometer actually arrived early, and I have done one batch of coffee with it - a lot better than what I had done previously, but I think I still have some learning ahead of me. I do think that working with my existing stove is important, and the Nuvo makes enough coffee for my needs - I kind of like having several kinds of coffee on hand and roasting what I want, changing it up. And I don't drink that much coffee, the Nuvo makes enough for 2-3 days, depending on the kind of coffee. When I get the roast just right, it's really good, but I have been inconsistent - the thermometer should help.
I've been roasting with the Nuvo Eco for a little while now and I'm wondering, when you check the temperature of the pan before dumping the beans in, where do you point your thermometer to gauge the temperature? I feel like I can point it at one part of the pan and it'll read 160° then another part will ready 300°. I'm getting a little frustrated with it
Seems like a large temp difference. I point the laser at the center of the inside. I pre-warm slowly on low so the ceramic absorbs the heat and distributes fairly evenly. It will never be perfect Zachary. The idea is to ensure your roaster is hot enough to roast beans but not too hot where you will scorch them. Your temperature settings also will determine how fast your roast goes. And that is an area where most new home coffee roaster people need to concentrate. Timing the events, like dry, first crack and drop. Doing this will help them have a better cup and a more consistent one.
How is roasting goung for yoh zach? Have you switched over to a different roaster or did yoh get the hang of it?
@@VirtualCoffeeLabthank you for the advice! The slow pre-heat makes sense. I was just blasting the heat before on full to get it warm
@@CesarSandoval024thanks for checking! I started getting the hang of the Nuvo then unexpectedly had a second-hand Behmor 1600 gifted to me. I honestly haven't touched the Nuvo in a while and I'm roasting at least once a week on the Behmor, trying to get it figured out!
So it’s on sale now, on Amazon for $39. I’d only get one for camping or bug out. I’d like one but we don’t use gas, all electric. It’s cool looking though!
yea, it isn't really practical for regular roasting. The Hive roaster is a better alternative as far as hand roasters go.
@@VirtualCoffeeLab Oh definitely! If we get back into “glamping” after my hubby retires this month, I’ll definitely look into the Hive. Because I break things 😌
What do you do.if you only have flat top stove ,not gas?
Hi Chef, I read somewhere in one of the Nuvo product features it will work with electric but I would contact the seller and ask just to be sure.
I use an electric coffee roaster. What you think of that?
There are a lot of new electric coffee roasters that do a great job. Even electric drum roasters. Which one are you using?
On my 5th attempt now but I still get that 'bitter' flavour profile and maybe it is 'smokey', then I thought yes, it probably is smoky because there no way the smoke can be force vented from the beans, and is probably contained to a certain extent in the vessel?
Hi Allan. Yep, that is something I’ve noticed as well. It’s important to keep the end of the handle open because smoke travels out of that handle by design. Also, I found the more swirl agitation helps the circulation of air.
ah...thats it then. Sometimes the hot beans pop out so I started to stuff a cloth in there!. Ill go back to be scalded then! @@VirtualCoffeeLab
That handle can get really really hot. I use a "hot glove" that helps but it is still really really hot. Honestly the Hive Coffee Roaster is a superior product 10,000 times over the Nuvo. Unfotunately they have been sold out of their product now for many months.
When doing this in the kitchen did you have a bunch of chaff go all over the kitchen?
Hi Roger. Yes, there is chaff that comes out but not a ton. It's kind of the nature of roasting coffee. "All over the kitchen"...... No.
oh, forgot to add.... I would opt for the Hive over the Nuvo but lately the hive has been short on availability.
Thanks so much. I haven’t decided if I’m gonna do something like this or do like a friend of mine does which is a homemade heat gun system. But I love roasting coffee.
I just got one for $5. I figure at that price, why not?
Hi Matt. Exactly! I have a feeling this could go two ways. Disappointed and frustrated or pleasantly surprised. I hope it will be the latter. Like all coffee roasters, the Nuvo has a learning curve. Finding the right heat setting and keeping the coffee moving is really important. The nice thing about the nuvo is you can see the beans while they roast and adjust the heat as necessary. I hope you have a pleasant and positive experience!
don't understand interest of roasting about,,, 3 cups a roast loll
Hi Martin, I understand why it might not make sense to some. I know someone who uses this roaster. They enjoy the low cost, simple process and freshly roasted coffee without getting too technical. The biggest downside is like you pointed out, a small amount of coffee to brew..
How does the nuvo compare to the hive?
Hi Kuma, the Nuvo is much smaller and made of ceramic. The handle gets hot and if it pretty basic. The hive can roast 4 times more coffee, gives a more consistent roast color overall, offers great bean movement, made of stainless steel and also comes in a version that provides a temperature readout. That is a really big help. I would recommend the hive over the Nuvo.
@@VirtualCoffeeLab I see, the issue with the hive is that getting my hands on it is basically impossible given I am living in the UK, would you say the square-drum roasters are also a good option at all? I would likea fairly cheap startup cost to begin with anyway because I don't want to fully commit incase I don't enjoy the process.
I'm not sure what a "square-drum" roaster is so I can't really offer an opinion. could you be more specific? Sorry about that.
@@VirtualCoffeeLab I believe its called the Auvelcraft compact roaster, its essentially a manually spun drum roaster but it happens to be in a square shape that you put over a fire and spin the lever until completion
I think i understand now. Because it is an open drum you are dealing with direct heat applied to the beans. I don't know what your budget is so if it is cheap and you want to give it a try go ahead. I would prefer a roaster that has some sort of lid or enclosed environment. There are glass roasters that you turn by hand or they have an electric motor. Something like this is what I am talking about. There was a viewer who got somethng like this and they were pleased. I have never tried one. The benefit of this type of roaster is the heat is somewhat enclosed, albeit glass and the chaff will be a little more contained. You will have great visuals and i think there is a temperature gague which you could replace with a digital probe. Just a thought. I have no idea if this is a good quality product or if it will perform well. Only sharing ideas here. www.amazon.com/ZHFEISY-Coffee-Roasting-Machine-Roaster/dp/B084H6TJMX