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  • @JacobShekter
    @JacobShekter 7 років тому +31

    Me: I should study for my exams.
    *Proceeds to spend almost half an hour learning how to set up hard drives on a 20+ year old computer*

  • @jamescollins6085
    @jamescollins6085 6 місяців тому

    Keeping old machines like these in service appeals to me. Especially in cases where they can keep up with more modern ones.

  • @IamFat32
    @IamFat32 12 років тому

    I remember using old Conner Peripherals SCSI drives back in the day, I think I kept a few working ones, but with no usable controller card to use them with.

  • @northhankspin
    @northhankspin 12 років тому

    I really like the uniform switches and MHz speed indicator.

  • @kaiyoshi2243
    @kaiyoshi2243 11 місяців тому

    Thank your for posting and leaving this up. This helped me get my Model 90's going again.

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for watching. Generally speaking, I don't take down videos unless there is something wrong with them, or I make a better replacement for an old video.
      I need to return to this project and go through the steps of getting an operating system running. However, before I do, I need to overhaul the cooling system for the regulator transistor on the processor complex, so it won't fail. I don't have a whole lot of time to tinker with these machines any longer.

  • @TheBlueMoons
    @TheBlueMoons 12 років тому +3

    i like how you call the UA-cam copyright police "Music Mafia". it made my day.

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 12 років тому

    Ahh memories, i had an old elenex xt super slow pc with dr-dos on it.
    The hdd was a 5.25 inch 21mb (Wow lol) seagate mfm drive with a western digital wd1002
    card running it.
    After i assembled some good platters and re assembled it i called the rom low level format with the typical DEBUG then G=C800:5, smashing rom program.
    Then the fdisk and filesystem format c:/u command.
    Boot from floppy and type sys c: and the job was done :-)
    Havnt touched one for years bill but i still remember.

  • @SolidarityVietnam
    @SolidarityVietnam 12 років тому

    I can't imagine how many of this model ive used to throw away. i used to work for a huge company with old computer hardware.

  • @SPOONman4000
    @SPOONman4000 10 років тому

    yesterday I found a PS/2 L40 SX at a local thrift store. Although it does work it has a few issues and the link to the reference disks will be a big help to getting things good and proper again. thanks.

    • @SPOONman4000
      @SPOONman4000 10 років тому

      ***** I was able to get rawrite to put the image on the floppies, but it won't boot from them. For now I just boot into DOS with something else, then switch disks. I'm going to try the other image tools to see what works. However none of it is of any good anyway until I get new batteries, already have a plan there. I also plan on getting a video made over the weekend.

  • @crazycory25
    @crazycory25 12 років тому

    I love the videos you do of the PS/2 line. I never realized until I did some research that the PS/2 ports on computers now, were named after the PS/2 line of computers.

  • @euclideszoto997
    @euclideszoto997 11 років тому

    Yes Tim Knight passed away. That is a sad loss. I never saw you post as uxwbill so you have another name that I will recognize for sure. Now I'm tempted to do a youtube on some of my machines. My 9577BTB is my prize machine. I have an 8595 also souped up but I still would like to get a 9595. My bermuda Ultimedia I can do to. This is a lot of fun still.

  • @michaeldavidson8971
    @michaeldavidson8971 9 років тому +2

    Thank God these days are long GONE!

  • @QuaaludeCharlie
    @QuaaludeCharlie 9 років тому +1

    I ow lever format drives a Lot : , but I use the Maxtor / Segate Disk from Boot Disk Dot Com , it'll ID and work with many Drive Types ) QC

  • @llthpofh
    @llthpofh 12 років тому

    wow nice you know how long its been sense i'v had to do this i dont remember how to do this

  • @jnickence
    @jnickence 11 років тому

    Well, I just learned something that I wouldn't have thought of looking in Wikipedia for. Hopefully I'll never need to work with SCSI drives!

  • @sargetech
    @sargetech 9 років тому +15

    That Beige machine cost stupid dollars back in the day!
    Now they are mental midgets!
    Thank you Mr. Moore :)

  • @MxArgent
    @MxArgent 12 років тому +1

    Just short of 30 minutes of glorious PS/2!

  • @LinkMyBoy
    @LinkMyBoy 12 років тому

    Great clip as always

  • @DFX4509B
    @DFX4509B 7 років тому

    IBM ported AIX to the PS/2 at one point, even. 'AIX is a series of proprietary Unix operating systems developed and sold by IBM for several of its computer platforms. Originally released for the IBM 6150 RISC workstation, AIX now supports or has supported a wide variety of hardware platforms, including the IBM RS/6000 series and later POWER and PowerPC-based systems, IBM System i, System/370 mainframes, *PS/2 personal computers,* and the Apple Network Server.'

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 7 років тому +1

      This is what you might call preaching to the choir.

    • @josh6715
      @josh6715 7 років тому

      some how i got the latest release of mac os to run on a 2008 mac book pro i
      just hope it doesn't cause problems because it cost me $100 the mac book

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR 8 років тому

    I think that there are SCSI2SAS adapters or SCSI2SATA adapter, SCSI is the forerunner to SAS and SATA drives.

  • @skypedog221
    @skypedog221 11 років тому

    I just noticed this. Remember the video on that Dell Dimension XPS P90C? When you were talking about that Apple CRT monitor, and how you cleaned it? At about 16:36 I saw that nasty gunk below the CRT. I guess you could use that part of the video as a before shot to the after shot in the video I mentioned in the comment..

  • @gbowne1
    @gbowne1 12 років тому +1

    I liked IBM's use of a fairly toolless case. Most things were removeable with a thumbscrew. I miss my PS/2 Model 50.

  • @euclideszoto997
    @euclideszoto997 11 років тому

    I never knew there was a PS/2 channel on UA-cam! This is awesome.

  • @MrShawn305
    @MrShawn305 12 років тому

    Cash America Pawn was still using these up until a few months ago. They may still be using them, I know I didn't remove them during their system upgrades.

  • @EzeeLinux
    @EzeeLinux 12 років тому

    This reminded me of all the stuff I have forgotten about the way it used to be... Makes one very thankful for modern SATA SMART hard drives. :) JC

  • @barovelli
    @barovelli 12 років тому

    @uxwbill 8580 was a freebie sent from California, I'd guess about 2006-2007. Was running Direct Access over DOS.

  • @bramvandenbroeck5060
    @bramvandenbroeck5060 4 роки тому

    Nice machine! Thanks 4 taking me back in time! I used scsi and thank god that modern drives are not this difficult anymore, but it whas a very clever system and it whas way faster than mfm for example ever could be!

  • @francistheodorecatte
    @francistheodorecatte 12 років тому

    Wish I could put an XGA-2 card in my Model 80. I only have 16bit MCA slots. Did manage to find an M-ACPA audio card to put in, though!

  • @trainergames
    @trainergames 12 років тому

    @TechGuru88 Well at the time i was trying to install XP,but i have a windows 7 disk i will try it and see if it works.
    Thank you for the help.

  • @hateercenor
    @hateercenor 12 років тому

    Nice explanation.

  • @Epictronics1
    @Epictronics1 3 роки тому

    Brilliant! Thanks!

  • @TheSacrafanianEmpire
    @TheSacrafanianEmpire 11 років тому

    great vid! love those old hardware!

  • @venichen1
    @venichen1 11 років тому +2

    Love your computer vids man!

  • @XeonProductions
    @XeonProductions 12 років тому +1

    these old computer videos make me sad I threw out a bunch of ancient computers. I had this one gateway computer with RAMBUS, but I didn't realize RAMBUS was so special at the time.

  • @Jerkwad152
    @Jerkwad152 12 років тому +1

    Oh, there was primitive plug and play in 1995. But we called it Plug and Swear.

  • @CavemanPerson
    @CavemanPerson 12 років тому

    That's a beast of a power supply. Almost thought that my resolution dropped to 800x600, making everything look big. :)

  • @trainergames
    @trainergames 12 років тому

    @uxwbill Ok thank you so much for the help,and sorry for not sending it in a PM,i just have gotten used to people not anwsering their PMs.

  • @KairosObj
    @KairosObj 5 років тому +1

    Ah I remember my good ole PS2 as well.

  • @semco72057
    @semco72057 5 років тому +1

    That is a nice setup by IBM and I like that and the addition of the newer drive will make it possible to upgrade the OS to a higher level, but maybe not Windows 10.

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 5 років тому +2

      It is not possible to run Windows 10 on a computer from the early 1990s.

  • @mirakel64
    @mirakel64 10 років тому +3

    thats a long time that a heard the low lever format term.

    • @amdintelxsniperx
      @amdintelxsniperx 9 років тому +1

      lol i still say that when im referring to writing zeros

  • @RandallFlaggNY
    @RandallFlaggNY 12 років тому +7

    Being a server guy back in the 90's I can tell you that plug and play back then was plug and pray.
    Even today PnP for Windows is still a bit of plug and pray...

    • @josh6715
      @josh6715 6 років тому

      plug and pray that it works

  • @ValorZeroAdvent
    @ValorZeroAdvent 12 років тому

    old computers are so scary to handle. it doesn't forgive quite a lot of mistakes...

  • @HB-Productions
    @HB-Productions 12 років тому

    I just got a whole load of Compaq Servers and I have about 10 SCSI Hard Drives but I have no way of testing them! Got a Mac with a SCSI Card and a PC with a SCSI Card but I can't get the HDs to show up. So I may end up selling them... got 8 2GBs and some 1Gbs and a 500MB

  • @muchosa1
    @muchosa1 12 років тому +1

    i find it interesting that the SCSI cables are not ribbons but open wires.

    • @josh6715
      @josh6715 6 років тому

      ready to be sniped if not careful

  • @UltimateArco
    @UltimateArco 12 років тому

    Huzzah! I was waiting for this one.

  • @GreenNoman
    @GreenNoman 11 років тому

    i actually have that same exact computer its sitting in my hallway, I found it in my friends barn one day and I asked him if I could take it home he said ok... now I am wondering if I can restore it. it has had no contact with water and it has an intel overdrive cpu in it or whatever a 1980s computer has so if I can get some information about this computer that would be great.

  • @Jerkwad152
    @Jerkwad152 12 років тому +1

    Also, I rather like seeing an 80186 in something other than an old Tandy 2000. :3

  • @francistheodorecatte
    @francistheodorecatte 12 років тому

    I thought the 8xxx PS/2s had a different video slot than the 9xxx PS/2s. huh.

  • @CaptainSouthbird
    @CaptainSouthbird 10 років тому

    24:51 This Yes-No-Yes pattern has always stuck with me, because I laughed when I first saw how they tried to trick someone not paying attention. I've been trying to explain it to people but always forgot exactly how it went (and also remembered it incorrectly as Y-Y-N.)

  • @northhankspin
    @northhankspin 11 років тому

    That little display is really cool because it has the same styling cues from the ps/2 line. obviously it is stock.

  • @trainergames
    @trainergames 12 років тому

    I got a question,my sister gave me an old dell power edge 1600sc server,it runs but if i try to install a normal verison of windows an IDE drive,it will work for about a month then start blue screening,now i have 4 73.3GB 10krpm SCSI drives(2 seagate,2 fujitsu)and i can install Unbuntu just fine on those drive and it still boots,but i want to use windows,but the windows installer won't see the drives,cause i need the SCSI drivers,which i can't find anywhere,do you know where i can find them?

  • @Captain_Char
    @Captain_Char 6 років тому

    personally id want to use either an HXC, or gotek floppy emulator over the actual disks, mostly cause its near impossible to get floppies that are reliable now

  • @crazycory25
    @crazycory25 12 років тому

    Now is there a way to find out just how many bad sectors are on that disk? I know that with regular formatting DOS or whatever it is that you used, can be made to tell you.

  • @Sansui350A
    @Sansui350A 12 років тому

    Nice, she's essentially a big beige box that's been hot-rodded, and will be a very nice addition to your collection.. why not have it store stuff related to all of your PS/2 stuff? :D

  • @Korstre
    @Korstre 8 років тому

    By what year did most hard drives stop being able to be low level formatted? Is it necessarily possible to low level format a Quantum Bigfoot? I ask because the Socket 7 motherboard I recently purchased has a low level format utility in its BIOS.

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 8 років тому +1

      +NO I DIDN'T No hard drive larger than a few hundred megabytes in capacity may truly be low level formatted. The ability to truly low level format a hard drive disappeared when drives started including a CPU and control program onboard, used voice coil type actuators over the older stepper motor approach and the printed defect maps finally disappeared (since they wouldn't be needed).
      You cannot truly low level format your Quantum Bigfoot drive. It is far too new. That said, many modern drives will interpret a "low level format" request as a request to erase themselves or write a test pattern to the disk.

    • @Korstre
      @Korstre 8 років тому

      ***** Thanks for the clarification! I will not need to use this utility, then. I suppose it may come in handy for an old Seagate hard drive less than 150MB, though.

  • @Snicolaisen
    @Snicolaisen 12 років тому

    Love that PC, more videos?

  • @barovelli
    @barovelli 12 років тому

    Is my old 8580 still kicking around? Hope to see it some day.

  • @Mirroxaphene
    @Mirroxaphene 7 років тому

    I remember back in the late 1990s throwing away dozens of the model 85 and 95 PS/2 when I worked for the State of Florida. We had a room full of several IBM PC Server 720s and 500s running NT Server. I sure wish I had saved some of them; they were built like tanks, completely over engineered.

  • @Lachlant1984
    @Lachlant1984 7 років тому

    I know that a lot of people who are into retro computers use these Compact Flash to IDE adaptors so they can use Compact Flash cards in old PCs because CF cards can operate in IDE mode, but do you know of a way to potentially use a CF card in a computer that uses the SCSI standard?

  • @rayelawliet5041
    @rayelawliet5041 11 років тому

    My school also had a similar setup with the Josten's Learning Corporation (If i remember correctly they used a tree as a logo.) My school had IBM ps/2 model 25's as the workstations.

  • @stevebez2767
    @stevebez2767 8 років тому

    Similarities now with model 80? Very strange passages of system 2 affects on servers ,noted some being used as BBS services and even Linux. Can't see AIX comparisons would be great too find comparatives of such and where system 2 compliments Windows or better UNIX tn3270 services having finished some oracle Linux 7 use if the same . E devouring to bring back model 8085-071 16mhz but it has only one scuzzy labeled July 1987 which time year was changes in IBM noted developments of listed downloads . Problem reference 1.44MB won't fit floppy! Lame,I know.

  • @88ariesk
    @88ariesk 11 років тому

    Hey, I was wondering, since you found an IBM reference diskette site, i need a referance diskette for a Compaq Deskpro 3002. I can't find any anywhere. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. *also thank you for posting the site for the IBM computers, my model 80 is running alot better since i've set up the disk controller.

  • @bundesautobahn7
    @bundesautobahn7 6 років тому

    I never understood why IBM, up until that time, did not implement a BIOS where everything is saved in and run from the ROM, without having to run a diagnostics disk to save changes into the CMOS.

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 6 років тому

      One reason probably came as a result of nearly every Microchannel adapter having a comprehensive configuration file that would be copied to the reference diskette for later use by system programs.
      EISA systems often did the same thing, and Compaq certainly copied IBM's "system programs" approach for a number of years.

  • @AnonymousYoutuber69
    @AnonymousYoutuber69 12 років тому

    The monitor flicker hurts... my.... BRAIN!!!!!!1!!111

  • @thecooldude9999
    @thecooldude9999 12 років тому

    ITs tend to delete NTLDR and any important files from hard drives when they get rid of them.

  • @Ryoga2K
    @Ryoga2K 12 років тому

    Oh my god, I was commenting on vwestlife's video about how much I wanted one of this .. then I see the related video.. I'm jealous.

  • @PicaDelphon
    @PicaDelphon 6 років тому

    (read/write/check), (read/write/check), (read/write/check), (read/write/check), (read/write/check), 1/2 hours later..Floppy-in, Floppy-out..Nice Video..

  • @jdog20012001
    @jdog20012001 9 років тому

    I have that same monitor!! :)

  • @brig.4398
    @brig.4398 9 років тому +1

    I think I read that in the old days drivers were completely bare from the factory, so that's why we low level formatted them to set up the tracks and sectors?

    • @brig.4398
      @brig.4398 9 років тому

      ***** thx Bill for the ans. keep the videos coming...

  • @the731272
    @the731272 12 років тому

    yea if your ever looking to get rid of those drives ill sure as heck take them

  • @Chaoticmass
    @Chaoticmass 11 років тому

    This is great, now install OS/2 and it'll be complete!

  • @the731272
    @the731272 12 років тому

    @borderlineartistic thats what i meant

  • @Gilerajohannes
    @Gilerajohannes 7 років тому

    I got an Compaq Proliant ML370 with two pentium3 1 ghz cpu's and it has it's bios programs on the harddrive that you boot from on an hidden partition ,I newer tryed an Ibm server but it sounds like that having the bios programs on the harddrive is normal for servers :).

  • @mac4thewin
    @mac4thewin 12 років тому

    plug and play then meant exactly what it said U plugged it in the U play around getting it to run xD i love old computers i just wished my mum will let me have them =(

  • @lordsyn86
    @lordsyn86 11 років тому

    I remember in the early to mid 90's as a child in elementary that this model of PS/2 or a very similar one was used as a server for a series of double floppy drive equipped diskless workstations in a computer lab that were PS/2 Workstations using a login program called "Josten's Learning Corporation" which used "Writetime" on them as a learning program or something like that. The workstations could only boot from a floppy. Are you familiar with what I am talking about?

  • @the731272
    @the731272 12 років тому

    can you open up the failed drive so we can see the insides? :D

  • @winfr34k
    @winfr34k 12 років тому

    I somehow want more vids about that PC :D

  • @1sonyzz
    @1sonyzz 8 років тому +5

    The guy talks like in 50' people where talking in television

  • @stevebez2767
    @stevebez2767 6 років тому

    Hey bill,dya no Shiva appletalk box from u.s.a 110v but need 240uk ,no manuals,but many jumpers inside as well as probably simple plug to turn voltage. Any ideas much appr,steve

  • @RandallFlaggNY
    @RandallFlaggNY 12 років тому

    @IamFat32 Prolly' find one on Ebay...?

  • @KRC1023
    @KRC1023 12 років тому

    04:51 What broke?

  • @runforit420
    @runforit420 7 років тому

    The PS/2 MCA was really so far ahead of anything available in 1987 for a PC - it was almost as easy to set up as a NuBus Macintosh II!

  • @offensivejerk
    @offensivejerk 9 років тому

    Do you have an overview video on this system? I love these PS/2 servers

  • @hamtaro126
    @hamtaro126 10 років тому

    Nowadays I use 7zip as a source of uncompression for most DOS files like ARJ, LZH and more!
    It's Nice stuff for DOS computer users that use Windows also!

  • @christineayres5339
    @christineayres5339 3 роки тому

    Hi again uxwbill i have a riddle for you to do with storage drives, what does it mean if my Solid state drive is making a high pitch whining noise ? i got so fed up with this Transcend drive i put my old faithful Western Digital drive back in , the SSD is only 4 years old so im very surprised its giving me such hassle since the HDD is 15 years old

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 3 роки тому +2

      There's probably some sort of voltage conversion circuit within the Transcend drive. These should ideally be silent, but some make noise because the switching frequency (or a harmonic) falls within the range of our hearing. Other components (coils like transformers or inductors) can also resonate, amplifying the sound. Sometimes it's a defect, or bad design. Other times it's just the way things are.

    • @christineayres5339
      @christineayres5339 3 роки тому

      @@uxwbill Ah that's awesome thanks for this information Bill 😁🙏 as I was scratching my head trying to figure out what the noise could be , definitely was something wrong with the SSD as when I tested the read/write speed it was only slightly quicker than my ancient hard drive ,anyway thank you again for your help my brother 😊👍

  • @stevebez2767
    @stevebez2767 8 років тому

    Is these terminal cluster cards IBM of any use for this? Keep pop on eBay doesn't say terminal like 5250 or 3270 so guess could be node or maybe like tv. Media box terminus...

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 8 років тому +1

      Probably not, unless you actually want to run one of those networks. If you do, you'll probably need some kind of IBM mainframe.

    • @stevebez2767
      @stevebez2767 8 років тому

      +uxwbill had a pretty powerful quantianKnoppix cluster that used too call up several Aix ,rs6000,s390,as/400 etc. OpenMosix basis allowed node and Vfs manipulation of red hat Glusters where developed gFortran,clang ,in GCC as UNIX Linux aix r&d including KDE/Gtk API/abi thing. (There's couple Vax for tun fifty sterling at eBay Appleton-Rutherford labs!)

  • @skylarjensen3249
    @skylarjensen3249 8 років тому

    hey uxwbill, I found an old server SCSI card at my recycle center once

  • @Lachlant1984
    @Lachlant1984 11 років тому

    Who is Tim Knight?

  • @thealmosthdchannel
    @thealmosthdchannel 11 років тому

    can you send me that lcd thing if i pay shipping?

  • @Lachlant1984
    @Lachlant1984 7 років тому

    What's the logo on the top left of the computer monitor's front bezel, shown at the start of the video? I'm talking about the monitor used with the computer that was creating the disks you needed for the PS/2.

    • @josh6715
      @josh6715 7 років тому

      it was a dell

  • @armankordi
    @armankordi 11 років тому

    If you were to sell one of your 486s, How much?

  • @TIITANIC1912
    @TIITANIC1912 10 років тому

    You have a DELL Dimmension 4550?

    • @TIITANIC1912
      @TIITANIC1912 10 років тому

      ***** I have the same PC, for data storage.

  • @MrComputerfan
    @MrComputerfan 12 років тому

    @uxwbill Would it work with shipping the old ones? please write a private message to me, if it works and how...

  • @matthew65536
    @matthew65536 8 років тому +1

    What operating system does it have? be the NTLDR means that it could have been some kind of NT or windows 2000

    • @TCGProductions03
      @TCGProductions03 7 років тому +1

      Probably NT Workstation/Server 4 or Windows 2000 Server. It *could* have been Windows XP, but it's very unlikely.

    • @viktor.madarasz
      @viktor.madarasz 6 років тому

      Access Denied selling the ps/2 95 in europe?

  • @vinniepie1989
    @vinniepie1989 9 років тому

    What is ps/2 means?
    Andere whats is the orginal os fort your IBM?

  • @windows8er
    @windows8er 9 років тому +1

    What OS are you using to write the floppy disks? Wouldn't it have to be Windows 9x to switch over to DOS like that?

    • @windows8er
      @windows8er 9 років тому

      So you were just running the command prompt full-screen?

  • @KamiKitsuneVA
    @KamiKitsuneVA 7 років тому

    Can they still be used as decent servers today?

  • @ENB2002
    @ENB2002 6 років тому

    I spy the infinite cat project! Is Pumpkin a part of it?

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 6 років тому +1

      No, I never could get her to pose for the computer when that project was in its heyday. Later on, though, she was looking at the computer when I was editing a video about a Panasonic Magic Stop fan. I had the good fortune to get a picture, which is the thumbnail for that video. She's never done it again.

  • @compositeguy4696
    @compositeguy4696 8 років тому

    10 000 Rpm? thats quite impressive.

    • @uxwbill
      @uxwbill 8 років тому +1

      +Composite guy Yes, and there are also 15,000 RPM hard drives as well. I have a few of those.

    • @compositeguy4696
      @compositeguy4696 8 років тому

      15,000?! In that time period, those must have been darn expensive.

    • @themrenerd7384
      @themrenerd7384 8 років тому

      +Composite guy 10K and 15K hard drives are still being made

    • @MooreRetro
      @MooreRetro 8 років тому

      This was SCSI. SCSI as time went on wasn't as popular with mainstream. These were built with businesses in mind. So, the speed was well worth the price to businesses and IT professionals.

    • @themrenerd7384
      @themrenerd7384 8 років тому

      HurtfulProductions I'm talking about SAS drives

  • @armankordi
    @armankordi 11 років тому

    What do you sell?!