What I don't understand, is that Everyone knew that the Starliner capsule had repetitive issues while still on the ground and yet they launched anyway. Day 1 we all knew.
almost like NASA has learned nothing after the loss of two shuttles for the same issues, the rush to fly is gonna get astronauts forever sleeped. Again.
They didn't. The first issue was a valve in the Centaur upper stage which was completely separate from the starliner and Boeing. The only issue they were aware of before launch was a small helium leak which was WELL within the acceptable leak rate. Almost no airplane or rocket as ever flown with 100% of the millions of components and systems working 100% nominally with no issues whatsoever. If they only launched if everything was flawless, they would never launch. Therefore each system, subsystem, part, etc is assigned a level of importance and a margin within which the flight is a go. Some systems are critical and must be working flawlessly, some are the opposite and can be completely failed, and most are in the middle. The helium is in the middle - tanks and valves simply cannot be made 100% leak proof and will leak at some rate. The leak was well within the nominal range so they launched. The thrusters didn't show any signs of issues until on orbit
Boeing Chief: This decision clearly does not erase the fact that our company has successfully bring these 2 astronauts to space, is just a single triip ticket that's all....
It was either this, or Boeing forcing a bad decision on NASA. And you know someone at Boeing tried hard to do exactly that despite the issues and risks.
I have to admit that in the past I was quite the Boeing fan. They were a major player in the Apollo program, the Space Shuttle and built several modules for the International Space Station, and more. Of recent years, even after becoming a staunch Space X fan, I was quite excited about Boeings' initial Starliner program. Like everyone else, as the flaws in the program became evident, my support began to fade. When you also consider Boeing commercial airliner problems and their mismanagement problems since acquiring Mcdonald Douglas and their misguided DEI policies, it becomes easy to nail Boeing to the cross. When you filter out the emotions and breakdown the issues, maybe the issues are not as bad as I thought. The Space shuttle was quite unreliable in its early flights, but the system did mature, save the disasters that occurred, and became more reliable. Adding to that, NASA was only given funding for about half of the proposed upgrades that would have made it cheaper and safer to fly. Boeing does have its share of responsibilities for its mistakes but in the case of the thrusters, being of a subcontractor's product, I think it's less on Boeing than we all are inclined to blame. The thrusters are supplied by Aerojet Rocket Dyne and L3Harris. Both are very well known and trusted suppliers. Boeing and AJ/RD have spent the last 2 months trying to recreate the problem. Thrusters and valves of various types have been around for a long time. Perhaps some new valve type whereas a condition has slipped thru the cracks. The point is, I don't think it's a lemon. This is not yet a production model. I think they definitely could have done a better job to this point but in the end, they'll get the issues worked out and Starliner will be a reliable transportation system (fingers crossed).
Boeing would have, NASA can't afford the bad press with all the Artemis delays. The congressional investigations, if they lost another astronaut in space, would take years.
I never wanted them to go uphill in Starliner in the first place, I assume Butch and Suni will enjoy the extra time at the ISS, we need competent providers in the spaceflight sector.
It may finally be dawning on the NASA managerial class that there may not be a cushy post-retirement job waiting for them at Boeing if they just play ball. Nelson on the other hand looks like he needs to get back to his sarcophagus.
NASA: We paid Boeing twice as much, and gave Boeing years longer to complete, and the mission stranded personnel at the ISS, BUT we're looking forward to working with Boeing in the future! Can you say political influence and corruption?
They need to maintain a relationship with Boeing if they want to be able to get much insight on what's going on with the program. Publicly shaming a contractor is a bad way of doing that.
Yes. The ISS will remain in orbit until 2030, Starliner will definitely have flown a couple more times by then. But it is likely that they will not be able to fly the full 6 mission needed to get the full commercial crew contract payout.
Thank you for decent and unbiased reporting. This is experimental program with a lot of risks involved. This decision for good for many reasons. Starliner still might be a second national spacecraft, we need it to succeed. BlueOrigin has massive delay but looks like they are also joining the game. Awesome!
Very relieved that NASA finally made the correct decision. It should not have taken this long, and the decision should not have been this difficult due to political push back from irresponsible and dangerous Boeing Executives, but at least the right decision finally happened.
It took exactly as long as it should have taken given the situation - there was zero reason to rush to a decision before the engineers had as much time as they needed to test everything they wanted to test, collect all the data they needed to collect, analyze all the variables they felt it was necessary to analyze, and come up with the best decision and plan possible. Butch and suni were safe on station and could stay essentially indefinitely, and any contingency mission plans were going to take weeks to flesh out and get ready anyway. There was absolutely no benefit to rushing a decision and many MANY possible drawbacks. NASA handled this EXACTLY right - they refused to bow to PR or contractor pressure, left everything up to the engineers, and did things by the book.
@thespacebucket - What I would like to know is whether Boeing/NASA could do more exhaustive tests of the doghouse thermal issues, after the Starliner crew capsule separates from the service module. Does the service module provide a similar doghouse configuration that includes OMAC and RCS thrusters, or are they only fitted to the crew capsule ? I note that the tests done so far have been pretty conservative. They also specifically excluded testing the crew capsule RCS thruster thought to have been permanently damaged. Returning the crew capsule unmanned definitely provides them with an opportunity to do more risky testing of its doghouses. If anything, I suspected they will stick to conservative testing, to avoid risking the capsule or their reputation further, and thus lose this opportunity to learn more !
What makes my brain itch, don't pretty much all the companies use the same tech? Are all companies potentially vulnerable to the same issue? In other words, are they exclusively messing up or are they just the only ones who got caught?
SpaceX Draco thrusters are bipropellant. (I suspect they can run monopropellant hydrazine, but I do not know). The Aerojet MR-104J thrusters are monopropellant hydrazine of far lower thrust capability.
@@External2737 Wrong ones. The service module thrusters, which are the ones having issues, are more powerful bipropellant thrusters. The MR-104J thrusters are on the capsule for reentry attitude control. Hydrazine needs a catalyst to decompose, so running hydrazine through a Draco definitely wouldn't work (well, it'd just be a worse version of a cold gas thruster).
@@External2737 Oh, yes, I didn't mean to suggest that the Draco thrusters on Dragon were the same as the Starliner service module RCS thrusters. They definitely aren't! Just noting that the Starliner service module thrusters aren't monopropellant, only the capsule thrusters
After watching the NASA livestream it was “apparent” that the crew safety and risk finally outweighed the obvious failure in the flight test. I realize it was a “flight test”… but the entire mission seemed to be pushed ahead of many red flags. IMHO… Just bring them home safe. Suni will have a shuttle, Soyuz, Starlemon and Dragon patch
The smaller the group the less possibility the lies will get out. When you see the trees turning green due to earth's increasing axial tilt (Magnetic north) thawing frozen CO2 in the arctic you are at the door. Knock & Jesus the holder of the keys to heaven and hell will let you in. The mystery of the 7 star crossings in one rotation of the galactic bulge not you or co2 is causing these the birthing pains & will cause Noah's SE to NW tidal wave deluges every 40 years when mercury & venus are in a major conjunction of the next millennium it takes to cross the ecliptic. With faith in the word warnings of God our father we can move mountains to block divert Noah's tidal tsunamis to come.
Why can't they come down on Crew 8's cargo rack? Suits aren't really necessary. They'll be fine. Suni has eye issues that will only worsen over time. She can't wait six more months.
The eye thing seems to be exclusively reported in Indian tabloids based on the fact that she and Butch both did eye scans. Even if it is true, it's an extremely common problem and not considered a particularly bad condition nor one that would worsen badly.
heck yeah, they will stick with that turd even after this mess. NASA is not good at learning from fails, they will try again and risk more lives. Boeing should be out of the space race, they don't even belong hauling humans in the atmosphere.
Yes. Starliner is almost guaranteed to fly again. They found a likely root cause of the thruster issues during the recent ground testing and testing on orbit. They know what's wrong, and they will fix it in a year or two at most. The commercial crew contract also requires a minimum of 2 (max. 6) operational flights, so those will almost definitely happen. My guess is they fly Boeing Crew-1 next in 2026, then fly once per year until the ISS is deorbited in 2030.
After all the problems, delays, budget overruns they still launched to "soon". At this rate henry ford would be working on his second car. Spacex, orion, dreamchacer soon. Nice fleet. Make starliner a cargo craft to prove itself.
@@AM-tu1rc It's been working out that way so far anyway. Besides which, there are other companies that would better serve this program at this point than Boeing.
At what point do we stop throwing money at Boeing for continuously under performing? How about a Congressional hearing, I would like to know how much it is going to cost. Thank you for the video.
I'd rather adults did some sort of investigation or inquiry. Congress is full of unserious morons who want to ban books and make contraception illegal. They are not capable of having a serious debate, they can't even impeach a failed coup loser like drump.
The first starliner launch was unmanned. For some reason they decided to completely change the flight software for the manned flight, removing the option for unmanned flight. But that's just a matter of sending a software update to the ship. Assuming of course that Boeing doesn't screw that up too.
I doubt it. It'll probably return just fine. For NASA, a 90% chance of returning crew safely is just not nearly good enough. It's not that they think Starliner is incapable of returning crew safely. In an emergency scenario where more risk is acceptable, they would still have returned on Starliner after all, but if they can avoid even a relatively small risk to the lives of the astronauts, they will avoid it.
Agreed, SpaceX would have lost the contract. There were thruster issues the second flight. Since Aerojet MR-104J thrusters are very common, Boeing screwed up the thermal conditions.
@Keithmcknight. Those are wild speculations for which you have no evidence! Further more it DIDN'T happen that way so your speculation is a waste of time!!
If you notice a video on the starliner the bright light coming from the windows it's from electrical arcing must be problems with the power lines this must be much worse than they're telling us 🤔💥
I can well and truly understand how disappointed the NASA and Boeing crews feel about this outcome. Question to the members of those crews; how do you think the tax payer feels about the money that has been wasted. Note to Boeing: make do with the very successful and reliable solution you have. You don't NEED 2 solutions and you already had an alternative capsule with Orion. Greedy bastards.
Orion is not Boeing and is also not suitable for the ISS (too expensive, no equipment to support docking to the ISS) and also is having significant concerns with its heat shield (though admittedly it'd almost certainly be fine from low earth orbit).
Finally NASA & Boeing made an intellectual decision to let spaceX bring the Astronauts home. They should have made that decision long time ago. So the Astronauts are not stuck in ISS. But there is a saying It is better late than never and it is better late than sorry.❤🎉😊
Sunny and Butch could be a good movie title
What I don't understand, is that Everyone knew that the Starliner capsule had repetitive issues while still on the ground and yet they launched anyway. Day 1 we all knew.
almost like NASA has learned nothing after the loss of two shuttles for the same issues, the rush to fly is gonna get astronauts forever sleeped. Again.
They didn't. The first issue was a valve in the Centaur upper stage which was completely separate from the starliner and Boeing. The only issue they were aware of before launch was a small helium leak which was WELL within the acceptable leak rate. Almost no airplane or rocket as ever flown with 100% of the millions of components and systems working 100% nominally with no issues whatsoever. If they only launched if everything was flawless, they would never launch. Therefore each system, subsystem, part, etc is assigned a level of importance and a margin within which the flight is a go. Some systems are critical and must be working flawlessly, some are the opposite and can be completely failed, and most are in the middle. The helium is in the middle - tanks and valves simply cannot be made 100% leak proof and will leak at some rate. The leak was well within the nominal range so they launched. The thrusters didn't show any signs of issues until on orbit
most likely cost. Boeing dont want to spend more and willing to risk and assured NASA that it will be okay.
Why insist on a first manned test run when they never had a first successful unmanned test run.
@@drfranks1158 - No, they aren't the "same issues." The issues are in no way similar.
Going to be interesting when starliner returns. If it burns up or something people are going to be like wow, Boeing woulda killed those astronauts.
Boeing will definitely be preparing rn for how they will spin the PR when that day certainly comes.
Boeing Chief: This decision clearly does not erase the fact that our company has successfully bring these 2 astronauts to space, is just a single triip ticket that's all....
It was either this, or Boeing forcing a bad decision on NASA. And you know someone at Boeing tried hard to do exactly that despite the issues and risks.
If you can't keep your planes in the air or get your spacecraft back on the ground, you must be Boeing.
It is hard too describe just how ignorant and dull you must be to post that statement.
I have to admit that in the past I was quite the Boeing fan. They were a major player in the Apollo program, the Space Shuttle and built several modules for the International Space Station, and more. Of recent years, even after becoming a staunch Space X fan, I was quite excited about Boeings' initial Starliner program. Like everyone else, as the flaws in the program became evident, my support began to fade. When you also consider Boeing commercial airliner problems and their mismanagement problems since acquiring Mcdonald Douglas and their misguided DEI policies, it becomes easy to nail Boeing to the cross.
When you filter out the emotions and breakdown the issues, maybe the issues are not as bad as I thought. The Space shuttle was quite unreliable in its early flights, but the system did mature, save the disasters that occurred, and became more reliable. Adding to that, NASA was only given funding for about half of the proposed upgrades that would have made it cheaper and safer to fly. Boeing does have its share of responsibilities for its mistakes but in the case of the thrusters, being of a subcontractor's product, I think it's less on Boeing than we all are inclined to blame.
The thrusters are supplied by Aerojet Rocket Dyne and L3Harris. Both are very well known and trusted suppliers. Boeing and AJ/RD have spent the last 2 months trying to recreate the problem. Thrusters and valves of various types have been around for a long time. Perhaps some new valve type whereas a condition has slipped thru the cracks. The point is, I don't think it's a lemon. This is not yet a production model. I think they definitely could have done a better job to this point but in the end, they'll get the issues worked out and Starliner will be a reliable transportation system (fingers crossed).
thx for the full report!
Damn that was quick.
im actually surprised they didnt double down and risk the astronauts lives. thank goodness someone in charge has a bit of sense.
Boeing would have, NASA can't afford the bad press with all the Artemis delays. The congressional investigations, if they lost another astronaut in space, would take years.
Agree with both of you!
@@MadJustin7 absolutely
i am betting that it will spin out of control when it undocks. I mean, it seems like this would be worst case scenario, but dont discount it.
Most excellent reporting my friend, I'm glad I heard this from you first.👍👍
I never wanted them to go uphill in Starliner in the first place, I assume Butch and Suni will enjoy the extra time at the ISS, we need competent providers in the spaceflight sector.
"You built a bad boat."
- Bowen "Iceberg" Yang, SNL
It may finally be dawning on the NASA managerial class that there may not be a cushy post-retirement job waiting for them at Boeing if they just play ball. Nelson on the other hand looks like he needs to get back to his sarcophagus.
Nelson makes Biden look like a teenager and savant...
NASA: We paid Boeing twice as much, and gave Boeing years longer to complete, and the mission stranded personnel at the ISS, BUT we're looking forward to working with Boeing in the future! Can you say political influence and corruption?
They need to maintain a relationship with Boeing if they want to be able to get much insight on what's going on with the program. Publicly shaming a contractor is a bad way of doing that.
So, by the time they fix this, will there still be a ISS??????
It's beginning to look like probably not. Fortunately SpaxeX is very reliable 🙂
Yes. The ISS will remain in orbit until 2030, Starliner will definitely have flown a couple more times by then. But it is likely that they will not be able to fly the full 6 mission needed to get the full commercial crew contract payout.
I guess they could fly to the commercial replacement stations
Is anybody surprised this has happened.
I for one am not.
Totally shocked…see my shocked face 🤦♂️ oh I mean shocked face…🙄
I feel bad for the crew that are gonna be stuck aboard the ISS til February
Calypso is Starliner, not Dragon.
Thank you for decent and unbiased reporting. This is experimental program with a lot of risks involved. This decision for good for many reasons. Starliner still might be a second national spacecraft, we need it to succeed. BlueOrigin has massive delay but looks like they are also joining the game. Awesome!
Thank you, Mr. Spock.
Cool. And you still can test auto for return.
assuming the thrusters dont stick and send it into the ISS
Very relieved that NASA finally made the correct decision. It should not have taken this long, and the decision should not have been this difficult due to political push back from irresponsible and dangerous Boeing Executives, but at least the right decision finally happened.
It took exactly as long as it should have taken given the situation - there was zero reason to rush to a decision before the engineers had as much time as they needed to test everything they wanted to test, collect all the data they needed to collect, analyze all the variables they felt it was necessary to analyze, and come up with the best decision and plan possible. Butch and suni were safe on station and could stay essentially indefinitely, and any contingency mission plans were going to take weeks to flesh out and get ready anyway. There was absolutely no benefit to rushing a decision and many MANY possible drawbacks. NASA handled this EXACTLY right - they refused to bow to PR or contractor pressure, left everything up to the engineers, and did things by the book.
@thespacebucket - What I would like to know is whether Boeing/NASA could do more exhaustive tests of the doghouse thermal issues, after the Starliner crew capsule separates from the service module. Does the service module provide a similar doghouse configuration that includes OMAC and RCS thrusters, or are they only fitted to the crew capsule ? I note that the tests done so far have been pretty conservative. They also specifically excluded testing the crew capsule RCS thruster thought to have been permanently damaged. Returning the crew capsule unmanned definitely provides them with an opportunity to do more risky testing of its doghouses. If anything, I suspected they will stick to conservative testing, to avoid risking the capsule or their reputation further, and thus lose this opportunity to learn more !
In what important detail are the Spaceliner and Space X suits incompatible?
Likely the interfaces to the capsule for comms, climate, and oxygen.
Also SpaceX suits can work the touch screens, starliner suits cannot.
@@RechargeableLithium
Can adaptors be made that would allow compatibility without using space x suits?
Sadly, a common Boeing L
Common Boeing L or common Aerojet Rocketdyne L? Let the blame games begin.
Space is hard! Even for the experts
🙁
Thanks man!
I wonder, what is the real future of the Boeing Starliner?
"An 11 hour offset"
iykyk
Honestly, not that much of a surprise - I guess NASA doesn't want another Columbia
over complication leads to endless problems..
Just that kind of universe...
I’m not even surprised i knew it all along
NASA finally shows that they have some sense not to risk the lives of the astronauts. They are humans after all.
SpaceX W yet again
What makes my brain itch, don't pretty much all the companies use the same tech? Are all companies potentially vulnerable to the same issue? In other words, are they exclusively messing up or are they just the only ones who got caught?
Starliner uses thrusters supplied by Aerojet Rocketdyne, SpaceX uses their own Draco thrusters. It's not really the same.
SpaceX Draco thrusters are bipropellant. (I suspect they can run monopropellant hydrazine, but I do not know). The Aerojet MR-104J thrusters are monopropellant hydrazine of far lower thrust capability.
@@External2737 Wrong ones. The service module thrusters, which are the ones having issues, are more powerful bipropellant thrusters. The MR-104J thrusters are on the capsule for reentry attitude control. Hydrazine needs a catalyst to decompose, so running hydrazine through a Draco definitely wouldn't work (well, it'd just be a worse version of a cold gas thruster).
@@AmbientMorality Still different thrusters. I appreciate your clarification, but the designs are different.
@@External2737 Oh, yes, I didn't mean to suggest that the Draco thrusters on Dragon were the same as the Starliner service module RCS thrusters. They definitely aren't! Just noting that the Starliner service module thrusters aren't monopropellant, only the capsule thrusters
Gilligan's space island
After watching the NASA livestream it was “apparent” that the crew safety and risk finally outweighed the obvious failure in the flight test. I realize it was a “flight test”… but the entire mission seemed to be pushed ahead of many red flags. IMHO…
Just bring them home safe. Suni will have a shuttle, Soyuz, Starlemon and Dragon patch
Why is Ex Senator Nelson the Chief of NASA at age 104? Nobody else can do this job?
The smaller the group the less possibility the lies will get out.
When you see the trees turning green due to earth's increasing axial tilt (Magnetic north) thawing frozen CO2 in the arctic you are at the door. Knock & Jesus the holder of the keys to heaven and hell will let you in.
The mystery of the 7 star crossings in one rotation of the galactic bulge not you or co2 is causing these the birthing pains & will cause Noah's SE to NW tidal wave deluges every 40 years when mercury & venus are in a major conjunction of the next millennium it takes to cross the ecliptic.
With faith in the word warnings of God our father we can move mountains to block divert Noah's tidal tsunamis to come.
Politics.
He's a Democrat. Biden's a Democrat. They were buds in the Senate for a century or so. 'Nuff said.
Billy-boy Nelson looks like a vampire that failed at its job. Ive nvr seen someone look so thirsty in allll my life.
Why can't they come down on Crew 8's cargo rack? Suits aren't really necessary. They'll be fine.
Suni has eye issues that will only worsen over time. She can't wait six more months.
The eye thing seems to be exclusively reported in Indian tabloids based on the fact that she and Butch both did eye scans. Even if it is true, it's an extremely common problem and not considered a particularly bad condition nor one that would worsen badly.
Is there any chance Starliner will ever fly again after taking that final blow?
heck yeah, they will stick with that turd even after this mess. NASA is not good at learning from fails, they will try again and risk more lives. Boeing should be out of the space race, they don't even belong hauling humans in the atmosphere.
Yes. Starliner is almost guaranteed to fly again. They found a likely root cause of the thruster issues during the recent ground testing and testing on orbit. They know what's wrong, and they will fix it in a year or two at most.
The commercial crew contract also requires a minimum of 2 (max. 6) operational flights, so those will almost definitely happen. My guess is they fly Boeing Crew-1 next in 2026, then fly once per year until the ISS is deorbited in 2030.
After all the problems, delays, budget overruns they still launched to "soon". At this rate henry ford would be working on his second car. Spacex, orion, dreamchacer soon. Nice fleet. Make starliner a cargo craft to prove itself.
break up boeing and give that part of the company to someone else.
GOOD. NOW REFUND THE TAXPAYERS FOR ALL BOEINGS WASTE. AND CUT THEM OFF FROM THE TAXPAYER'S TEET
And pin the entire hopes of this country on a single company?
RIGHT ON!!!
@@AM-tu1rc It's been working out that way so far anyway. Besides which, there are other companies that would better serve this program at this point than Boeing.
I think your caps lock key is stuck.
I am thinking that and imprisoning the board and upper management.
Invest in SpaceX….enough said.
Typical NASA + Boeing L
We all knew this was coming from day one LMAO 🤣
WE AIN'T GETTIN HOME ON THIS ONE🗣️
Good.
At what point do we stop throwing money at Boeing for continuously under performing? How about a Congressional hearing, I would like to know how much it is going to cost. Thank you for the video.
Not going to happen. Too many Feds are making bank on Boeing.
I'd rather adults did some sort of investigation or inquiry. Congress is full of unserious morons who want to ban books and make contraception illegal. They are not capable of having a serious debate, they can't even impeach a failed coup loser like drump.
Boeing has not gotten any more funding since its initial contract with NASA. The last 1.4 billion was covered by Boeing.
If it's Boeing, I'm not going.
No way lmao
My understanding was that it could not safely return unmanned?
The first starliner launch was unmanned. For some reason they decided to completely change the flight software for the manned flight, removing the option for unmanned flight. But that's just a matter of sending a software update to the ship. Assuming of course that Boeing doesn't screw that up too.
Normal reentry burn…right…from your mouth to God’s ears
Smart move. I have a feeling when the Boeing Starliner returns it is going to be a big flaming fireball on the way back. Shalom
all capsules are big flaming fireballs, though.
@@ThatOpalGuy Only this one will break up and no one would survive if they were on it. Shalom
I doubt it. It'll probably return just fine. For NASA, a 90% chance of returning crew safely is just not nearly good enough. It's not that they think Starliner is incapable of returning crew safely. In an emergency scenario where more risk is acceptable, they would still have returned on Starliner after all, but if they can avoid even a relatively small risk to the lives of the astronauts, they will avoid it.
Another Boeing blunder
Look at all the people that need to fill out a NASA administration job application.
If this were Dragon, they would be FREELY considering CANCELLING SpaceX contract and dragging their name thru the mudd!
Bullshit.
Agreed, SpaceX would have lost the contract. There were thruster issues the second flight. Since Aerojet MR-104J thrusters are very common, Boeing screwed up the thermal conditions.
@Keithmcknight. Those are wild speculations for which you have no evidence! Further more it DIDN'T happen that way so your speculation is a waste of time!!
Just how are we going to manage on Mars? , i think were kidding ourselves .
There is no point in guessing about something many years down the road.
Boeing wants to fly agen then do real tests and damn the computer models and scrap dead wate from managers
* NASA ASTRONAUTS * parting family statement...see ya in about a week babe.
"FACT CHECK FAULTS" 😅
It is shameful that NASA still plans to use Boeing.
Bowing needs to do more real testing and needs to fix its problems befor they should dare to put people on starliner agen
That ship should never have launched PERIOD !!
When does nasa get its money back.
That's got to be a first right? First spacecraft that required another space craft to rescue their crew. Massive Boeing L.
If you notice a video on the starliner the bright light coming from the windows it's from electrical arcing must be problems with the power lines this must be much worse than they're telling us 🤔💥
Source? This sounds like BS, why epilog they have stich high voltage anywhere?
Boeing doesn’t make a quality product.
profits. profits are quality, for investors and board members.
but that profit will certainly evaporate.
How to trust a Boeing thruster: don't.
The thrusters are not made by Boeing.
I can well and truly understand how disappointed the NASA and Boeing crews feel about this outcome. Question to the members of those crews; how do you think the tax payer feels about the money that has been wasted. Note to Boeing: make do with the very successful and reliable solution you have. You don't NEED 2 solutions and you already had an alternative capsule with Orion. Greedy bastards.
Orion is not Boeing and is also not suitable for the ISS (too expensive, no equipment to support docking to the ISS) and also is having significant concerns with its heat shield (though admittedly it'd almost certainly be fine from low earth orbit).
Taxpayer money hasn't been wasted. It's a fixed price contract, so any extra money needed to fix Starliner will come out of Boeing's own pockets.
Boing will be happy to help if NASA sends them a few hundred $Million more icing on the cake.
Now we get to witness it fail on reentry without unnecessary risk to the crew.
You actually want it to fail don't you?? 🙄
Finally NASA & Boeing made an intellectual decision to let spaceX bring the Astronauts home. They should have made that decision long time ago. So the Astronauts are not stuck in ISS. But there is a saying It is better late than never and it is better late than sorry.❤🎉😊
How embarrassing for Boeing!!! 🤣🤡👀
No way lmao