I'm Returning my Mac Pro

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  • @aparks1437
    @aparks1437 4 роки тому +4353

    if you're so rich and can buy this, you might as well buy the full version of WinRAR too

    • @imagineaworld
      @imagineaworld 4 роки тому +57

      Yeah and all them xp images lol

    • @semafor6736
      @semafor6736 4 роки тому +104

      @@TheV-Man legends use winrar

    • @mactastic144
      @mactastic144 4 роки тому +44

      7zip is better.

    • @yatokuwastaken
      @yatokuwastaken 4 роки тому +57

      @@semafor6736 *laughs in linux unrar*

    • @semafor6736
      @semafor6736 4 роки тому +39

      @@yatokuwastaken *screams in windows*

  • @nopower3970
    @nopower3970 5 років тому +11483

    "If you're poor buy an iPad."
    Damn, I'm not even rich enough to be poor.
    Edit: Whoa! Over 9k likes! Thanks everyone!!
    Edit: Here an edit for Rafafaro 1337.

    • @uncle4897
      @uncle4897 5 років тому +102

      No Power this confuses me

    • @denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386
      @denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386 5 років тому +128

      and ipads have actually gotten cheaper like the recent 2019 ipad is priced reasonably well even by apple standards of cheap

    • @adfaklsdjf
      @adfaklsdjf 5 років тому +61

      Negative money, where they charge you for not having any money..

    • @Abdulrahman11799
      @Abdulrahman11799 5 років тому +70

      @@BarryMahcockiner It's not. You only get that kind of quality tablet is with Samsung and they're not that too far priced and with weaker CPU (S5e vs 2019 iPad)

    • @arcanum3882
      @arcanum3882 5 років тому +24

      Get a job, socialist.

  • @jsmurray2
    @jsmurray2 5 років тому +4041

    The whole “Apple or nobody” mentality of these companies is the reason the Right to Repair movement needs more support

    • @GarethXL
      @GarethXL 5 років тому +166

      or just use a PC?
      🤔🤔

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 5 років тому +195

      Based and Rossmannpilled.

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf 5 років тому +129

      @@GarethXL or just build a hackintosh?
      the easier the hackintosh community makes it to install OSX on unsupported hardware, the more desperate apple will become

    • @tech34756
      @tech34756 5 років тому +36

      Ben Hinman That may not be ideal though, particularly for a professional user/company, both from a support perspective and a legal perspective (afaik it’s a grey area).
      Coincidentally, earlier I saw a video by someone who said a Hackintosh wouldn’t be suitable (although they didn’t detail why).

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto 5 років тому +2

      Good point. Thank you for bringing this up.

  • @RiceCracker87
    @RiceCracker87 5 років тому +742

    The reasonable configuration literally costs more than my yearly rent.

    • @baqcasanke
      @baqcasanke 4 роки тому +1

      Matthew Wong same

    • @lollol-ow8rb
      @lollol-ow8rb 4 роки тому +10

      Finally i can grate cheese and use my pc

    • @ihatecommunism9958
      @ihatecommunism9958 4 роки тому +2

      @@lollol-ow8rb Ha, that's amateur hour stuff!! I make homemade pasta with mine!

    • @azurelas1
      @azurelas1 3 роки тому +4

      At that price you should try to buy your own property.

    • @WORLDINONEGO
      @WORLDINONEGO 3 роки тому +1

      It costs more than my house 😂

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 5 років тому +1790

    "I'm returning my Mac Pro"
    Me: (Grabs popcorn for the comments section)

    • @RamkrishanYT
      @RamkrishanYT 5 років тому +47

      LTT has the most generic comment section
      Apple bad, PC good

    • @amr.c1650
      @amr.c1650 5 років тому +14

      @@RamkrishanYT but why think when can say Apple bad PC good?

    • @noahhastings6145
      @noahhastings6145 5 років тому +2

      I literally made some kettle corn and then saw this video. I am prepared

    • @masternobody1896
      @masternobody1896 5 років тому

      Mac pro is complex

    • @-demiurge-8398
      @-demiurge-8398 5 років тому +20

      @@RamkrishanYT but it's true, it can be shown with numbers, most of us on here come for best price-to-performance, the only thing Apple has is consumer's loyalty and build quality (really well made and durable).
      If you disagree why are you commenting on a video catered to PC elitists? You can like whatever you want (and share your opinion) but don't get mad when everyone disagrees with you.

  • @kenk4555
    @kenk4555 5 років тому +816

    “Apple still finds their own special way of saying fuck you”
    That they do Linus, that they do.

    • @Cpt_John_Price
      @Cpt_John_Price 5 років тому +3

      *FUCK YOU

    • @mikal_1
      @mikal_1 5 років тому +6

      this is the way.

    • @Chill.....
      @Chill..... 5 років тому +2

      @@Cpt_John_Price **FUCK YOU*

    • @Joseduran86
      @Joseduran86 5 років тому +1

      especially when you buy a product just to return it

    • @hzuiel
      @hzuiel 5 років тому

      It is still remarkable that apple has managed to obviously listen to consumers on this product though, normally they try to tell the consumers what it is they want from their products.

  • @mop0014
    @mop0014 5 років тому +438

    "this thing isn't going anywhere during shipping... - although ours did-"

    • @michaelvd2140
      @michaelvd2140 5 років тому +2

      Cause that 'thing' wasn't screwed in all the way. So it's a manufacturing problem not a shipping one.

  • @mattdovale
    @mattdovale 5 років тому +528

    I thought you'd need an additional special Apple screwdriver for the screws

    • @ukaros1912
      @ukaros1912 4 роки тому +29

      Wouldnt be the first time.

    • @TheOJDrinker
      @TheOJDrinker 4 роки тому +50

      Nah, apple is more like "you don't need screwdrivers... if you can't open it with your hands then just throw it out and buy a new one"

    • @1infiniteloop244
      @1infiniteloop244 4 роки тому +15

      That’ll cost you 1300

    • @StavrOgnev
      @StavrOgnev 4 роки тому +4

      Isn't they charge you for it by default? Hm, there must be licence to use any screwdriver (for a limited time, ofc, renewal required) included in EULA.

    • @MPG187
      @MPG187 4 роки тому +1

      @@StavrOgnev only on offical over priced Apple Hardware. Although there is a hackdriver project to get these screwdrivers working on regular PCs. Apple is working on suing them as well speak while HTC and Samsung are innovating.

  • @Quint_69
    @Quint_69 5 років тому +374

    $6000 machine, $150 graphics card. Stonks.

    • @hal9xxx321
      @hal9xxx321 5 років тому +63

      As they say, *an apple a day keeps your kidney away*

    • @randomdude189
      @randomdude189 5 років тому +2

      Anonymous Suomynona it’s funny when you realize the price points are bs

    • @HydroSheep
      @HydroSheep 5 років тому +5

      Anonymous Suomynona
      Please tell me what 32gb ram graphics card you can get for $150

    • @Quint_69
      @Quint_69 5 років тому +18

      @@HydroSheep Please tell me what card with 32 gigs of RAM can you get in a $6000 Mac. (Not $50000)
      And just in case you try deleting your stupid argument I'm pasting it here. "Please tell me what 32gb ram graphics card you can get for $150"

    • @tmass1
      @tmass1 5 років тому +5

      @@HydroSheep you are a moron if you are defending the pricing on this hunk of bullshit designed for rich vegan beta males

  • @pat3008
    @pat3008 5 років тому +1257

    Apple's Message: "This is not a consumer desktop"
    Puts 580x in it....

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck 5 років тому +220

      U know how apple works. Get a cheap budget component slap the word Pro on it. Profit

    • @spiceydice6968
      @spiceydice6968 5 років тому +26

      girlsdrinkfeck It's apple the mostest bestest phonecomouter and ipad company

    • @m-w-y7325
      @m-w-y7325 5 років тому +130

      I bought my first video card.
      It is an RX 580, second hand.
      It cost around 140$
      I am officially using latest tech as Apple.

    • @spiceydice6968
      @spiceydice6968 5 років тому +5

      M-W-Y 580 and 580x is different

    • @m-w-y7325
      @m-w-y7325 5 років тому +59

      @@spiceydice6968 Watch video plz, Linus shows the difference between them.
      Its literally the same

  • @thedarkforce9596
    @thedarkforce9596 5 років тому +1498

    Linus: _”I love my Mac Pro”_
    Also Linus: *I’m returning it*

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 5 років тому +32

      Also Linus: I kept it past the 2 week return by date. (He's had it almost 2 months now.)

    • @thomassmith4999
      @thomassmith4999 5 років тому +23

      I will totally buy one of these in 10 years time for 100 dollars

    • @chloedegurechaff1941
      @chloedegurechaff1941 5 років тому +4

      TexMex also linus: buys another one 😂

    • @thedarkforce9596
      @thedarkforce9596 5 років тому +3

      XBOXRULES you sound tired go take a nap 😴

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 5 років тому +1

      @@chloedegurechaff1941 Buys a third, water cools it.

  • @FourSyncTech
    @FourSyncTech 5 років тому +2520

    “I’m Returning my Mac Pro” for a title.. then doesn’t say one word in the video about returning it, actually talks about keeping it longer for more testing.. Classic “Bait and Switch”

    • @masqueradr
      @masqueradr 5 років тому +317

      Yup, totally agree. While I know Linus is a knowledable guy this stunt is freaking asshole-behaviour. Most prolly influenced by his millennial employees who think that's the way to go.

    • @fahmidaisy9322
      @fahmidaisy9322 5 років тому +37

      i somehow quite sure this is sponsored..hmm

    • @liamc9585
      @liamc9585 4 роки тому +102

      Came here to say this. I'm a new subscriber, but I'm thinking of maybe unsubscribing already for this kinda stuff.

    • @Mystixor
      @Mystixor 4 роки тому +38

      I mean it's true that it is clickbait though I think for most people it will still be an enjoyable video, if they were interested in _that_ title.
      On the other hand, I often wish for more technical video titles, this seems to be a general trend on UA-cam which makes it difficult for me to link a video's content to the title when reading the latter at a later point in time.

    • @haniffaris8917
      @haniffaris8917 4 роки тому +93

      @@Mystixor its enjoyable, but it's false advertising, and an asshole move

  • @klystron2010
    @klystron2010 5 років тому +1290

    6:30 "the elephant in the room"
    No, elephants are cheaper.

    • @nothinglessthannumbers
      @nothinglessthannumbers 5 років тому +9

      @Ailsa Ni someone didn't finish that video.

    • @ICanDoThatToo2
      @ICanDoThatToo2 5 років тому

      That's because they don't come with a warranty.

    • @evank7858
      @evank7858 5 років тому +17

      I jokingly offered to buy an elephant from a tourist trap in Thailand, and they said they'd let one go for about $3,200. So, Technically, you could buy 5 elephants for the price of this Macbook Pro.

    • @originalpaul21
      @originalpaul21 5 років тому

      @@evank7858 Stupidity doesn't cost anything...THIS IS A BASE MAC PRO so learn how to count first and we'll talk later...

    • @coldfusionstormgaming1808
      @coldfusionstormgaming1808 5 років тому +1

      Google it. NO legit i'm pretty sure a LITTERAL Elephant is cheaper.

  • @jed.e
    @jed.e 5 років тому +1345

    "Or the trash can. Which nobody bought"
    My school: Buys 26

    • @natedunn51
      @natedunn51 5 років тому +109

      sad to say, but your school is the nobody. however if they are trying to trash them soon, Linus seems to have a shortage.

    • @paultrigger3798
      @paultrigger3798 5 років тому +140

      that's what happens when you have gen-ed majors making computer decisions

    • @wolfhd7509
      @wolfhd7509 5 років тому +18

      Your school's buy good shit? We have intel i3 3rd gen with 4gb of ram

    • @33tadas
      @33tadas 5 років тому +34

      @@wolfhd7509 You have 4gb ram?
      My school has a single 2gb stick in each computer

    • @wolfhd7509
      @wolfhd7509 5 років тому +7

      @@33tadas haha. Wow, yea we "upgraded" from 1gb on windows xp haha

  • @okpjdark4717
    @okpjdark4717 5 років тому +151

    13:25 - "They actually don't even offer a parts replacement service for in-house technicians to deal with. It's Apple, or nobody."
    And yet, Apple lobbyists still lie at right to repair hearings that: A) other repair options exist, and B) they don't profit from their repair services.

    • @MannyZtheWolfWarrior
      @MannyZtheWolfWarrior 5 років тому +6

      Let's punch a lobbyist in the face.

    • @loophole3526
      @loophole3526 5 років тому +2

      Um he was on about WARRANTY repair as far as I could understand. And yes Apple is terrible when it comes to right to repair. I hope they get slammed hard.

    • @teddym2808
      @teddym2808 5 років тому

      @@loophole3526 hmm i asked and was told with applecare+ it's onsite.. i don't have to personally take it anywhere

  • @Stinkyclawkilla
    @Stinkyclawkilla 5 років тому +316

    The whole time he was doing that smart talk I was literally thinking about how his table supports that cheese grater

    • @kieranmasonmusic4617
      @kieranmasonmusic4617 4 роки тому +2

      It really does look like a cheese grater

    • @big_joe_8478
      @big_joe_8478 4 роки тому +4

      @@kieranmasonmusic4617 it is a cheese grater

    • @notcristi
      @notcristi 4 роки тому +1

      @@big_joe_8478 Bruh apple be making a "luxury" cheese grater now

    • @big_joe_8478
      @big_joe_8478 4 роки тому +7

      @@notcristi the wheels are more expensive than the cheese grater computer it carries

  • @5HT2A292
    @5HT2A292 5 років тому +1324

    "Ours is what we would call the reasonable config"
    *Has 768GB of RAM installed*

    • @yazansakran3326
      @yazansakran3326 5 років тому +112

      TiMe To Run FortNite

    • @notricky1680
      @notricky1680 5 років тому +132

      @@yazansakran3326 not before opening multiple chrome tabs

    • @nephatrine
      @nephatrine 5 років тому +157

      Look at the chart around 10:48 - that's the dead middle of the range they have for 8K editing. 8K uses a ton of RAM for just a single layer and so once you start adding more and more layers and VFX or having multiple projects open, it can suck up an intense amount of memory. Remember, he's talking about professional studios and their requirements - not saying it'd be reasonable for your home gaming rig.

    • @intruder313
      @intruder313 5 років тому +3

      I thought you were joking. Cripes!

    • @notricky1680
      @notricky1680 5 років тому +27

      @uvuweve osas doesn't matter what the point of having 8k. Like he said, it's what professional studios are now using, that should be the only explanation you need

  • @jasongooden917
    @jasongooden917 5 років тому +571

    Man: I need a loan for a new car
    Bank: Which car do you want?
    Man: The new Mac Pro

    • @err0r0b0
      @err0r0b0 5 років тому +42

      Want wheels on that?
      *+$400*

    • @mx5klein
      @mx5klein 5 років тому +10

      @@err0r0b0 I've bought actual wheels for a car for less than $400. They weren't even crappy steel wheels either.

    • @JXSnWp
      @JXSnWp 5 років тому +2

      @@err0r0b0 I'm dead lol

    • @danman9847
      @danman9847 5 років тому +1

      @@mx5klein guessing they were used or just mean the tires and not the rims included

    • @mx5klein
      @mx5klein 5 років тому +3

      @@danman9847 They were used but they were wheels not tires.

  • @Axer128
    @Axer128 5 років тому +232

    13:00 - I work for a enterprise company with the Dell enterprise service contract. They are very hardcore, tech was onsite within an hour each time. Or the odd time they were a bit longer I got lots of calls explaining and apologizing for delays (too many actually lol, but better more then none). So yea its comparable or probably better. I also had the choice of them just sending me the part and replacing it myself for stuff I was confident was dead (Dead power supply was one example), which I doubt apple even offers. Returning the dead part was fast and easy and they send you a prepaid expedited shipping label too (which actually not all enterprise grade support pays for).
    (DELL EMC to be specific, but their support techs/HQ are the same even though it's a separate entity for the enterprise side - the escalate calls I get are from "Dell Global Command" ya sounds like some star trek thing lol)
    We have HPE's as well, it's good also, but not as crazy hardcore/fast as Dell, and their support is worst about just sending you a part without doing a lot of unnecessary steps. Even in obvious cases with dead power supplies or similar. To the point I don't call our special dedicated support number, I just submit tickets online and get the server health data ready cuz they always demand it.

    • @jakub7244
      @jakub7244 5 років тому +18

      hey, apple will change PSU too. Only you will lose all data and its gonna cost 2k€ :D

    • @edwardgreenjr167
      @edwardgreenjr167 5 років тому +9

      My ears immediately perked up when I heard "IBM Global Technology Services". They are a laughing stock when it comes to timely and/or expert service. I'm actually shocked that's who handles Apple's Enterprise Service Contracts. They are notorious for low-bidding contracts despite what expectation agreements are set, only to perform so poorly corporations will eat the cost of canceling the contract early rather then see it to term.

    • @natfingerboard
      @natfingerboard 5 років тому +9

      When my Dell laptop wouldn't charge, I contacted them via chat, they responded immediately and contacted their nearest tech to pay me a visit, he got there within a few hours ( he was on a nearby city) checked it, determined the battery wasn't working properly and replaced it, everything was covered by dell's warranty, not a single extra penny was charged, from that moment on I was a dell customer for life.

    • @QuickQuips
      @QuickQuips 5 років тому +3

      Yep. At this level support is more important than benchmarks or hardware.

    •  5 років тому +1

      Lol cool story bro. If you ever call customer service it's a nightmare.

  • @oneeco
    @oneeco 5 років тому +591

    "Reasonable configuration."
    Only 16,999 dollars. Pfff.

    • @jamesfilms_
      @jamesfilms_ 4 роки тому +14

      Reasonable is relative.

    • @mrmoosetachio
      @mrmoosetachio 4 роки тому +22

      @@petepowaaa you're right, a threadripper would be more competent at a fraction of the price

    • @slipdip-gaming-djing-vlogs7015
      @slipdip-gaming-djing-vlogs7015 4 роки тому +6

      Can afford 3 of them if I do a quick scan of the sofa

    • @christopherdsuza7531
      @christopherdsuza7531 4 роки тому +2

      lol xeon he says, I scoff. My threadripper wants to say hi :)

    • @maythesciencebewithyou
      @maythesciencebewithyou 4 роки тому +1

      That's nothing. Years ago I checked how much the most expensive mac back then was and with the top end configuration it cost about 25k.

  • @Cheezus
    @Cheezus 5 років тому +365

    "You're paying so much because it's for your customer support" We spend new car money on a service that will wipe a hard drive for a issue with RAM.

    • @danieljensen2626
      @danieljensen2626 5 років тому +4

      Presumably their customer service is a lot better for large businesses.

    • @turgsh01
      @turgsh01 5 років тому +12

      @Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH Actually, they screw over large businesses just the same. In fact, they won't even help cops recover data for a serious crime investigation claiming it's impossible, even though an average tech woman got it done in less than half hour.

    • @turgsh01
      @turgsh01 5 років тому +5

      @@nocturnal101ravenous6 Yup, 100% agreed. And the dumbest ppl in the world buy into Apple products thinking it's the best quality products and service because they're too lazy to do any research.

    • @IANSYT
      @IANSYT 5 років тому +1

      @@nocturnal101ravenous6 your just wrong, getting into a locked iPhone without a password is actually impossible due to the encryption

    • @Konr_
      @Konr_ 5 років тому +11

      turgsh01 If anything, Apple not allowing governments to backdoor/unencrypt devices without the device owners permission is insanely consumer friendly.

  • @PeterdaPanda
    @PeterdaPanda 5 років тому +200

    *768GB of RAM*
    Chrome: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!

    • @MirekFe
      @MirekFe 5 років тому +1

      *_Linux Workstation/Server enters the chat._*
      Chrome has finally met its match.

    • @vaseline5070
      @vaseline5070 5 років тому +5

      phim q who cares

    • @1devonkomsangtong
      @1devonkomsangtong 5 років тому +5

      phim q Could you review some of my essays in the future?

    • @vukasinmaslovaric
      @vukasinmaslovaric 5 років тому +2

      Never had google pass 3gb usage... (Multiple windows and 36 active tabs)

    • @bomberharris9322
      @bomberharris9322 5 років тому

      phim q Honestly, I would really appreciate people like you reviewing my essays and researches.

  • @michelvanbriemen3459
    @michelvanbriemen3459 5 років тому +1927

    "I've been thinking of retiring."
    "No guys I'm not actually retiring. Yet."
    "Okay guys I'm retiring my Mac Pro now."
    I'm getting confused

    • @starsnstrife
      @starsnstrife 5 років тому +43

      @J D yeah his mac pro is probably what he meant. I understand why he was in tears about it, that thing is expensive

    • @samgeurdi6351
      @samgeurdi6351 5 років тому +21

      We are all confused by your post. Then again I’m more intrigued about the other 57+ illiterate up voters backing up your failed post hahah

    • @foe936
      @foe936 5 років тому

      I'm not exactly a professional in this field, but I'm pretty sure that the first title you've mentioned is written in past tense, so it's obvious that he is not retiring.

    • @nafimkhan9462
      @nafimkhan9462 5 років тому +3

      As far as i know these videos are pre recorded and the one he made bout the retiring was the latest one but these videos were made way back in January 3rd or smth

    • @pcrana1
      @pcrana1 5 років тому +2

      It's all clear now. He is retiring...the Mac Pro.

  • @michaelgordon2860
    @michaelgordon2860 4 роки тому +758

    I'm almost to the end of the video and still haven't heard anything about him returning his Mac Pro. Shouldn't this be the first thing you talk about and why?

    • @DaRealKing303
      @DaRealKing303 4 роки тому +74

      Because he doesnt care about your time, just his wallet.

    • @yoservs
      @yoservs 4 роки тому +23

      that's why i'm withholding my subscription

    • @CorgiButter69
      @CorgiButter69 4 роки тому +20

      You guys are thinking too much

    • @jamesfilms_
      @jamesfilms_ 4 роки тому +34

      @H D No... titles are made based on the content of the video. Or at least that's how they're supposed to be made.
      And even if that wasn't true, the description doesn't say anything about.. well.. anything. Just a bunch of links and him saying that he has the expensive Mac Pro.

    • @davidlaughlin1995
      @davidlaughlin1995 4 роки тому

      @@CorgiButter69 Or not enough...Or beyond my spectrum, baiting me in for the troll of my life!

  • @Hero3life
    @Hero3life 5 років тому +575

    I feel like I can physically see his pain while reviewing Apple products. It's never a "happy" video so to speak, he is just doing it because it exists. lol

    • @AdventSeph
      @AdventSeph 5 років тому +62

      well yeah, he actually said that in a video once about how tech trends force them to ride the wave or risk getting booted out by the almighty algorithm.

    • @TheGamerCouch
      @TheGamerCouch 5 років тому +5

      You can legitimately hear it in his voice sometimes.

    • @dereksevcik6595
      @dereksevcik6595 5 років тому +3

      Or its cause of his midlife crisis

    • @Hockey-ny7tp
      @Hockey-ny7tp 5 років тому +9

      Apple is basically communism

    • @alison2272
      @alison2272 5 років тому +2

      @@Hockey-ny7tp best conclusion lol kkk

  • @nikkoloredo4856
    @nikkoloredo4856 5 років тому +354

    “Nailed the design” .. yeah literally they went to town on it

    • @turtletube
      @turtletube 5 років тому +2

      Nikko Loredo it’s a big bro design

    • @JohnSweevo
      @JohnSweevo 5 років тому +1

      .. with a hammer

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 5 років тому +16

      Well to be fair even though I too think it looks a bit boring, they did make it look expensive and premium without looking flamboyant. Which is what you want in a corporate environment. Apple is truly the Audi of computers: Premium but understated look, high price for cheap parts, bad customer service, unreliable, not particularly exceptional at anything, image based on good experiences from the past which are no longer valid on current models and completely overrated in general.

    • @brreeaad
      @brreeaad 5 років тому +2

      @@CheapBastard1988 Not a car person but a) Audi's really don't look "understated" to me and b) the reason people go with apple is specifically the customer service and reliability. You even said it yourself, they're super common in business use, and that's because the higher reliability makes them more profitable to use.

    • @alemko94
      @alemko94 5 років тому +3

      @@brreeaad Apple and reliability? You have never heard of one Louis Rossmann, have you?

  • @--Lam
    @--Lam 5 років тому +961

    Spoiler: Linus already confirmed they were too late to be able to return it.
    :/

    • @АлексейГриднев-и7р
      @АлексейГриднев-и7р 5 років тому +70

      They might be able to sell it at a relatively small discount though.

    • @ganondorf66
      @ganondorf66 5 років тому +130

      @@АлексейГриднев-и7р I'll give them 10 dollars for it

    • @dekaaizer2550
      @dekaaizer2550 5 років тому +68

      @@ganondorf66 I do 10.5

    • @soupwizard
      @soupwizard 5 років тому +38

      They can get it signed by various youtubers and sell it for charity

    • @camielhoekstra3543
      @camielhoekstra3543 5 років тому +42

      12 dollar final offer

  • @Monosekist
    @Monosekist 4 роки тому +212

    Oh! This is why the military has such a massive budget. So they can design weapons with these.

    • @noillusionoutdoors207
      @noillusionoutdoors207 3 роки тому

      Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Why is the word a while

    • @Shane9934
      @Shane9934 3 роки тому +5

      The military doesn’t design anything, contractors provide the designs and if the military likes it they’ll order. Sure, you could say that the military sets design tolerances, but that’s about it.

    • @SuperSmashDolls
      @SuperSmashDolls 3 роки тому +2

      Just as long as they don't launch iTunes. The EULA explicitly prohibits using it to develop nuclear weapons.

    • @江辰-h3z
      @江辰-h3z 3 роки тому +1

      @@Shane9934 r/whoosh

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 3 роки тому +1

      Weapons and luxury cars are designed on windows on NX, solidworks and catia. They use tools not toys

  • @chrisdotson4697
    @chrisdotson4697 5 років тому +272

    The definition of clickbait. He never even talked about returning it! In fact, he even mentioned that he would be using it for future videos!

    • @DestroyerMariko
      @DestroyerMariko 5 років тому +28

      Woooo you just saved me 15 minutes of my life XD

    • @jonathan8087
      @jonathan8087 5 років тому +5

      _Classic Linus!_

    • @jakehead20
      @jakehead20 5 років тому +14

      He's using it in future videos in order to compare it to other offerings, like a Hackintosh or a system using AMD's Threadripper or even EPYC CPUs on Windows.

    • @Kyugorn
      @Kyugorn 5 років тому +2

      @@jakehead20 And you can never rip on Apple enough :v

    • @jakehead20
      @jakehead20 5 років тому +1

      @@Kyugorn Apple always looks for reasons to get shit on, so let's do as they want!

  • @RocktCityTim
    @RocktCityTim 5 років тому +411

    Title - "I'm returning my Mac Pro" - real video, not a mention of sending it back.

    • @faceplants2
      @faceplants2 5 років тому +12

      Yeah why would he return it if he even could? I'm curious now. It sounded like the support for non-enterptise customers was the biggest deal breaker.

    • @DarkSwordsman
      @DarkSwordsman 5 років тому +15

      They did say on WAN show a while ago that they were planning to do as much testing as they could and then return it before their return window closed.

    • @robertjohnson2581
      @robertjohnson2581 5 років тому

      You suck.

    • @odinsplaygrounds
      @odinsplaygrounds 5 років тому +32

      Clickbait bullshit as always. In video he's only mentioning more videos they're gonna make on it about upgrading it themselves.

    • @MatthewAllisonSouthAfrica
      @MatthewAllisonSouthAfrica 5 років тому +8

      @@faceplants2 he's returning it to get his money back. They don't need it more than just to make videos.

  • @no1bandfan
    @no1bandfan 5 років тому +472

    Wasn’t Apple offering financing on the Mac Pro at a ridiculous rate?
    “Woo! Worked enough for my payment bro!”
    “I didn’t know you were still paying off your car bro.”
    “It’s not for my car bro. It for my computer bro.”
    “....bruah.”

    • @wunderbarpandapodcasting5005
      @wunderbarpandapodcasting5005 5 років тому +3

      KAT no bruahhhhh

    • @legoNerd01245
      @legoNerd01245 5 років тому +8

      shoulda bought a car bro

    • @wiimatt4044
      @wiimatt4044 5 років тому

      Bro

    • @---David---
      @---David--- 5 років тому +2

      Yes and it's also possible to buy the $1000 monitor stand via a loan from Apple at a 30% interest rate. You can pay it off in multiple payments.
      Who needs to pay rent when you can put yourself in debt for a $1000 monitor stand that doesn't even come with a monitor? 😄

  • @mortenpettersen5233
    @mortenpettersen5233 5 років тому +120

    "I was all out of money after buying the thousand dollar stand" 7:40

    • @Ybsjek
      @Ybsjek 4 роки тому +1

      Savage

  • @mrkidofminecraft
    @mrkidofminecraft 5 років тому +388

    Returning my Mac Pro, because I need retirement money.

    • @DJH316007
      @DJH316007 5 років тому +7

      Or a car.

    • @antthunder3898
      @antthunder3898 5 років тому +5

      m.ua-cam.com/video/oHg5SJYRHA0/v-deo.html
      ^ This is why Mac Pro is good
      |

    • @txq2270
      @txq2270 5 років тому

      @@antthunder3898 ily lmaooooooo

    • @AlyxiSistahTweaky25
      @AlyxiSistahTweaky25 5 років тому

      @@antthunder3898 well played

    • @TNTspaz
      @TNTspaz 5 років тому +2

      Selling my mac and buying 3 actually usable computers

  • @GerardKean
    @GerardKean 5 років тому +651

    Wow I'm trying to imagine the PC you could build for that money

    • @urfork1
      @urfork1 5 років тому +142

      i previously fucked around on parts picker and for 2k less than the most expensive model of this, you could get 44 cores, and like 20 tb of ssd, 9 monitors, and 1tb ram. this was before m.2 ssds, and i havent bothered checking those.

    • @torahibiki
      @torahibiki 5 років тому +52

      Imagine what I could do with all those 2080ti's

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX 5 років тому +21

      cpu wise they would be wrecked by AMD threadrippers for sure even with a 24 cores I'm dangerously close to their perfs and there's the 32 and soon 64 cores
      what would still bring the price up is that they don't use gaming videocards but special ones with a lot more vram than we have, still obviously would cost less overall

    • @robbymacdonald8212
      @robbymacdonald8212 5 років тому +31

      i just built a PC for $3000 australian, equivilent but worse graphics and less ram mac was $13,000

    • @mrdante8584
      @mrdante8584 5 років тому +2

      Almost the same. Building a system with the same power wont be really cheaper. Also it's IMPOSSIBLE to find a replacement for their display.

  • @superakman14
    @superakman14 5 років тому +95

    10:43 I love how self conscious LTT is about their memes.

    • @pawet2167
      @pawet2167 5 років тому +12

      linus sex tip

    • @lkwconrad
      @lkwconrad 5 років тому +1

      In House meme creations

    • @RenegadeFury
      @RenegadeFury 5 років тому +4

      self aware*

    • @pawet2167
      @pawet2167 5 років тому

      @John Chaser wacky linus tech tips doing even wackier things

  • @bat4280
    @bat4280 4 роки тому +237

    Apple: we're making an expensive desktop for the Hollywood studios.
    Hollywood shuts down because of Covid-19.

    • @urbansnipe
      @urbansnipe 4 роки тому +5

      @planet42 or upgrade to something other than this money pit of a system

    • @paulpierantozzi
      @paulpierantozzi 4 роки тому +2

      also Apple ending Final Cut Pro 7 support made the industry shift to AVID and Premiere for the most part. Hollywood is independent of apple and post production only makes sense on windows/linux unless you are a youtuber.

    • @wyattb3138
      @wyattb3138 4 роки тому

      As an engineering student, I now see the reason for 1TB of RAM. This would probably simulate all the the simulation types. But all the engineering software are on Windows.

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 5 років тому +437

    "You don't need a desktop!" -Apple
    Me - "I just built one after 15 years on laptops and now I wish I'd have had one 14 years sooner."

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 5 років тому +14

      When you're gonna do pro work almost exclusively in a stationary environment, it typically makes no sense not to get a desktop. The upgrade factor is a big plus.
      For some reason, laptop upgrade options *still* suck. How hard is it to make laptop GPU card and slot for it? I'd say not very hard, considering that used to be a thing with high end laptops.

    • @xmaverickhunterkx
      @xmaverickhunterkx 5 років тому +3

      Depends on the laptop. I have a laptop that works exactly like a desktop (it even has a proper desktop CPU). The only caveat is that I can't replace the GPU :'(
      Desktops are better tho, for sure, but it also depends on the user and use case.

    • @Ozzyisunavailable
      @Ozzyisunavailable 5 років тому +3

      Yeah I got an iPad for work once and surprised myself when I never used it outside of the job, turns out when a pc can play games it's good enough to watch UA-cam and Netflix on. In bed I just watch stuff on my phones

    • @Cyromantik
      @Cyromantik 5 років тому

      Welcome to the fold! Upgrading can be an adventure, and sometimes frustrating, but changing up some of your guts in the future vs buying an entirely new machine is great!

    • @Cyromantik
      @Cyromantik 5 років тому +1

      @@InfernosReaper I remember those days. If your lappy has I/O ports for it, you can still do a GPU breakout box, but why do that when you can do it cheaper, better, quieter and cooler with a desktop?

  • @JPegGT
    @JPegGT 5 років тому +130

    Let’s also be a bit more clear about “studios” there is big difference between “post production” and “VFX”.
    Post studios are FAR more likely to buy these, but post studios are generally quite small and will be buying them in single digital quantities, even if the percentage of their staff using them is high.
    VFX companies rarely have any Mac’s in use for production work (MacBooks and iMacs very widely used for admin purposes though) in the past several years I’ve worked at a number of big and small companies all over the world, even at the studios with 1000+ employees you can count the number of Mac Pros on one hand. The VFX industry has long since moved on from Apple, they just aren’t used. Even windows is sparsely used, the vast majority of workstations are from Dell or HP running a variant of Linux.

    • @ZesPak
      @ZesPak 5 років тому +1

      Looking at corridor digital for example, most of them look to be using windows?
      Anyway, they have to deal with rendering time, so raw horsepower is important and Apple just lags behind a bit on the hardware front.

    • @oBCHANo
      @oBCHANo 5 років тому +37

      As a visual effects artist at a large studio I can say the same. The Mac Pro is a meme, the people that buy them like MKBHD are laughed at because these machines are a complete scam in all but technicality, they exist to take advantage of peoples ignorance. They sell idiots on the "pro hardware" that no pro actually uses. Nobody is using "pro" GPU's when gaming cards are faster (other than those that actually need the output options like a colourist), nobody is using hundreds of gigabytes of ram, and nobody is using ECC memory when the errors they prevent are a once in a decade event on an individual workstation and that's not a problem considering autosave exists in most professional software. I do a lot of fluid sims, pyro, destruction, etc, and it's rare to have something using more than 128gb of ram when working on it, if I need more it goes to a farm dedicated to running sims on anyway and that's the final stage for production quality.
      The only people buying these are shill UA-camrs like iJustine and small studios of hipsters that usually work on ads in places like Chicago, people who don't need much computing power anyway but still think it's reasonable to buy this garbage. You really won't see any of these at places like ILM.

    • @psuemor1651
      @psuemor1651 5 років тому +2

      @@oBCHANo I never heard MKBHD saying he actually bought that shit, and ijustine is most probably completely sponsored by apple under the table, and i have also noticed that if you even look at most reviews of apple products, especially the most expensive ones, they are different from any other product they review, you would almost never see someone reviewing an expensive apple product an comparing it with something else or giving alternatives, while when they review other things they are way more thoroughly and talk about alternatives, makes me think they have to sign some disclosure agreement with apple to be able to get those computers, because after all thats everything apple is about just marketing, now sure there is no alternative for the Mac OS for general consumers, but for that price if i were reviewing that stuff i would always say "please move onto something that is not ripping you off" lol... Anyways i actually have a question for you, not related to this, from what you know how really important is VRAM in general for work software? i always say is more practical to prioratize GPU speed over VRAM, so for example it would be better to have a 6gb 1660 ti than an 8gb RX 580, not that VRAM is not important but the speed should come first, or what do you think?

    • @eddxw
      @eddxw 5 років тому +1

      "the vast majority of workstations are from Dell or HP" aren't those workstations considerably pricer than the Mac Pro? last time I checked they were, although they were from the previous generation.

    • @psuemor1651
      @psuemor1651 5 років тому +8

      @@eddxw as far as i know they are not, even alienware is a lot cheaper than Apple, you can get an alienware PC with 4 years of their best support which includes accidental damage, i9 CPU, 64gb of ram, dual 2080 super, for $5100 thats even cheaper than the base Mac Pro and is gonna perform a lot better.

  • @chichan9013
    @chichan9013 5 років тому +377

    I bet Apple can sell a Cheese grater and a cucumber for $3,000.

    • @jasonreviews
      @jasonreviews 5 років тому

      fu er dai will buy it. LOLs.

    • @marc_el_jackson3587
      @marc_el_jackson3587 5 років тому +7

      And some one will buy it lol

    • @tayooo1000
      @tayooo1000 5 років тому +2

      but only if you buy extended apple care its $9000 without that

    • @nobodyuknow2490
      @nobodyuknow2490 5 років тому +1

      Pshhh... the outdated Cheese Grater already cost $3,000...
      if you expect them to throw in fresh produce along with that, you must be new here! ^_^

    • @chemusvandergeek1209
      @chemusvandergeek1209 5 років тому

      To about 4 people, yeah...

  • @menameschobro7382
    @menameschobro7382 4 роки тому +91

    We are definitely going to need honey with this one...

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 роки тому +3

      Honey could get it to be the price of a car instead of the price of a house!

    • @noillusionoutdoors207
      @noillusionoutdoors207 3 роки тому

      Don't tell me what to do

  • @UnbeltedSundew
    @UnbeltedSundew 5 років тому +137

    Apple: "Right to repair? Nah, never heard of it."

    • @jeppestubtoft4292
      @jeppestubtoft4292 5 років тому +3

      @Jack Handy they arent more out, than you are of your basement lol.

    • @longfang98
      @longfang98 5 років тому

      @Jack Handy Salty much?

  • @morgan1168
    @morgan1168 5 років тому +300

    What the Afterburner card does is burns you after you've bought it.

    • @blakeok952
      @blakeok952 5 років тому +2

      Morgan it's worth 2k

    • @OrigamiVR
      @OrigamiVR 5 років тому +2

      Lmao

    • @helplmchoking
      @helplmchoking 5 років тому +1

      It's great for boosting timeline performance and... Literally nothing else as far as I've seen

    • @morgan1168
      @morgan1168 5 років тому +15

      @@blakeok952 Then after you spend 2k on it you realize it does nothing hence my original comment.

    • @ccgb92
      @ccgb92 5 років тому

      LOL

  • @mylemonblue3070
    @mylemonblue3070 5 років тому +50

    It's good to hear that there are studios moving to alternate OS based PC's and not getting stuck with Apple's high cost or Windows issues any more.

    • @Joe11Blue
      @Joe11Blue 5 років тому

      They will never offer those OS's to us though.

    • @cooper.john.
      @cooper.john. 4 роки тому

      David ??? linux

    • @Joe11Blue
      @Joe11Blue 4 роки тому +1

      @@cooper.john. it's terrible. Took overall decade to fix a single exploit in Systemd. Slackware is the only distro I would trust, and even they have issues at times.

    • @bizmonkey007
      @bizmonkey007 4 роки тому +1

      Windows still seems like the most flexible option though.

    • @qiyuxuan9437
      @qiyuxuan9437 2 роки тому

      @@bizmonkey007 Horrible color management is the biggest issue, even in windows11. Ms never botherd to improve it since windows XP. Other than that, Windows is very good.

  • @gdutfulkbhh7537
    @gdutfulkbhh7537 5 років тому +61

    The “Genius” Bar is your only recourse for support? Ouch.

    • @vonclaren1
      @vonclaren1 5 років тому +4

      @@SusanPDavis fuck off ad bot
      One million scams

  • @JackBlack-qn7us
    @JackBlack-qn7us 5 років тому +83

    0:30 2019 Mac Pro looks like a cheese grater.
    You think Mac in it stands for Macaroni?
    Is it an unlimited supply of mac & cheese? Because THAT would be worth 14K greens

  • @gunstarrgames
    @gunstarrgames 5 років тому +366

    And so, he returns the expensive cheese grater.

    • @mrm7058
      @mrm7058 5 років тому +19

      It sucked at grating cheese anyway.

    • @gunstarrgames
      @gunstarrgames 5 років тому +1

      MRM 70 indeed

    • @Belznis
      @Belznis 5 років тому +1

      Damn, saw this too late, had the same thought.

    • @gunstarrgames
      @gunstarrgames 5 років тому

      Logic_Encrypted Apple: that’s our way of stealing your money 😀💰

    • @NeonVisual
      @NeonVisual 5 років тому +7

      @DMoney Industry It's a connected cheese grater.

  • @TacticalPlaytime
    @TacticalPlaytime 5 років тому +129

    The one thing I love about this Mac is the PCIE latch. I'd love to see it in more cases.

    • @BenCos2018
      @BenCos2018 5 років тому +4

      same tbh that is a very nice feature that I wish I had on my motherboard when changing or removing the graphics card (jamming a screwdriver under a 700 euro gpu is not pleasant or comfortable)

    • @tang9538
      @tang9538 5 років тому +2

      Something like that would need an update to the ATX motherboard and case standard, which has largely been unchanged for the last couple of decades or a new standard in itself which wont be happening anytime soon

    • @Slini2003
      @Slini2003 5 років тому +1

      Saqeef Iqbal couldn’t agree more but damn would it be nice to have anyway tho😂

  • @loaf078
    @loaf078 Рік тому +1

    14:59 Congrats! you made it to the end!

  • @ayukikazukawa5005
    @ayukikazukawa5005 5 років тому +90

    10:45 BEST MEME

  • @Shadow-ig3hf
    @Shadow-ig3hf 5 років тому +206

    But the burning question is "Does it come with a headphone jack?"

    • @De_Gabriel
      @De_Gabriel 5 років тому +15

      Why yes, yes it does

    • @Jtretta
      @Jtretta 5 років тому +19

      Indeed a surprise. What is not surprising is the lack of motherboard based IO. Come on Apple, you rely on an add on board for basic IO. Wasn't that a thing that was ditched in the days of Intel 386 and 486 processors?

    • @PhilipRicketts
      @PhilipRicketts 5 років тому

      I actually just thought about that. Now I'm curious if it doses.

    • @sabinem.702
      @sabinem.702 5 років тому +1

      @@PhilipRicketts Yeah it does. Linus said so at the end of the video. It's in the back, 'cause where else would one need a headphone jack?

    • @sabinem.702
      @sabinem.702 5 років тому

      ​@@PhilipRicketts Yeah it does. Linus said so at the end of the video. It's in the back though of course, 'cause where else would one need a headphone jack?

  • @Misigun99
    @Misigun99 5 років тому +163

    "choosing Xeon W at this point in time was an unfortunate decision" oh boy, Threadripper is coming!

    • @soupwizard
      @soupwizard 5 років тому +20

      Apple R&D so slow that they'll release Mac Pro Threadripper in 2029

    • @FinnMakesVideos
      @FinnMakesVideos 5 років тому +1

      I don't think Apple is ever going to release an AMD based system given their past product history

    • @TheBackyardChemist
      @TheBackyardChemist 5 років тому +14

      @@FinnMakesVideos You do realize this Mac Pro is ONLY sold with an AMD graphics card? And AMD is far more competitive on the CPU side right now.

    • @danijelujcic8644
      @danijelujcic8644 5 років тому

      @@FinnMakesVideos This time they'll have to if they want to remain competitive, especially performance/price. And Renoir versus Intel + dGPU.

    • @executablefiles3713
      @executablefiles3713 5 років тому +7

      I priced this out on pcpartpicker and you can build a $10,000 pc with similar (if not better) specs for what apple sells for $22,000. PC prices due to AMD's new lineups is really helping the market out.

  • @LemonChieff
    @LemonChieff 4 роки тому +12

    When I saw it I immediately thought: this is a Pixar order. I guarantee you they have their offices filled with those.

  • @Sgt_SealCluber
    @Sgt_SealCluber 5 років тому +307

    Apple Presents: The New Mac Pro
    "Time to learn Linux!"

    • @ansonx10
      @ansonx10 5 років тому +23

      Highly recommend it. I got fed up with macOS and Windows and learning linux has been a lot of fun. Being able to run an entire operating system in less than 600 MB of ram and zero background activity/telemetry (on the distro I'm using) is such a euphoric experience. It also boots very quickly on slower external HDDs, whereas windows and mac os can take over 10 minutes to finally finish loading everything.

    • @inthestudy
      @inthestudy 5 років тому +15

      ​@Kernels And that's fair. But it's not true for everyone. Premiere users are still stuck on Mac and PC, but people using BlackMagic's Davinci Resolve and Fusion can use Linux just fine. Similarly, the Android and Tizen SDK's are both Linux-native, Maya, Matlab, Mathematica and Autodesk Eagle.
      Maybe your workflow doesn't suit Linux, and that's fine - get a Mac, buy Windows, whatever suits. But it's cool and impressive that Linux is now a practical professional choice for people OTHER than Scientists.

    • @loicvanderwielen
      @loicvanderwielen 5 років тому +2

      @@inthestudy And even then, for MATLAB, the suite is, for those purely into numerical simulations, on the way out with Python 3 replacing it in several institutions. My university recently stopped using MATLAB in the lower grades, with the changes expected to affect the higher grades when the lower grades graduate. And, Python is much more comfortable to use on Linux than Windows (although it's also fine on macOS due to both being Unix based systems).

    • @eriklindahl7376
      @eriklindahl7376 5 років тому +1

      Also being a tech-site I’m surprised your lack of looking into “the tech”.
      - Number of PCIe lanes
      - Completely cordless internals
      - Using 2 GPUs och 2x16X vs 1x16x
      - The “what ever this thing is” = Infintiy Fabric between the two GPU’s
      - You fudged up on CPU-version it looks like. Intel-tax, not Apple
      - GPU price isn’t much different if you look at Quadros vs RTX-cards which you don’t look at and you actually do get a tangible benefit with infinity fabric when using 2 cards.
      That said, price of entry is an issue. But compared to HP / Dell... not much at all. Problem there aren’t cheaper options from Apple. But the MacPro does have the edge that all MacPro 2019 in the base are identical, only then options change the machine. This is often not the case - and wasn’t the case back in the “old” MP days either. Single and Dual core machines had different internals.
      That said... Apple should have a $1500-3000 desktop under the MacPro. It could skimp on power and have far less expandability.

    • @inthestudy
      @inthestudy 5 років тому +3

      @@loicvanderwielen Not to mention, you can embed C and Fortran routines compiled directly into Python modules - SO if Numpy isn't quick enough - you can write blisteringly fast Fortran code. Though we're getting rather off my point, which was "It's not just for Science any more! You can edit movies, too!"

  • @pankothompson5903
    @pankothompson5903 5 років тому +83

    over engineering it for incompatibility took so long the parts got outdated before launch

    • @doctork4586
      @doctork4586 5 років тому +1

      Unfortunately Threadripper isn't scalable so you can't have it in dual socket configuration . Only Epic is scalable (without P in the name)

    • @magicoddeffect
      @magicoddeffect 5 років тому

      @Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH I wonder why they didn't. Maybe it's because AMD is so focused on undercutting Intel on value that Apple couldn't justify marking their processors up like crazy.

    • @ZeldagigafanMatthew
      @ZeldagigafanMatthew 5 років тому

      @Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH Threadripper is targeting the same market Intel is with their Xeon W lineup. These are not multi-socket compatible.

    • @ZeldagigafanMatthew
      @ZeldagigafanMatthew 5 років тому

      @Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that these are not compatible in a multi-cpu config.

  • @flooperswastaken
    @flooperswastaken 5 років тому +94

    10:42
    Best part of the video

  • @ClassicalTechnology
    @ClassicalTechnology 3 роки тому

    11:34 I can explain why they would choose 2 separate Vega ii instead of a duo: two will give each gpu 16x pcie lanes, while a duo has both gpus sharing one 16x lane. This won’t matter for 3D rendering or some workloads, but it will matter in cases where you are doing 8k playback, real time color grading, etc. Even apples white paper on Mac Pro recommends two vega ii for video and this extra bandwidth. 3D work is fine, since it’s not pcie limited

  • @datdamonfoo
    @datdamonfoo 5 років тому +389

    "This thing isn't going anywhere during shipping!"
    "Except it still moved and did go somewhere during shipping."
    *Sigh*

    • @M4ttNet
      @M4ttNet 5 років тому +13

      Exactly, the over-engineered and applauded graphics card mounting system didn't even work in the end.

    • @sunwolf87
      @sunwolf87 5 років тому +1

      It's not going anywhere...but it kinda is.

    • @apocalypseap
      @apocalypseap 5 років тому +1

      It has like 30 pounds of shipping material so at least they didn't skimp on that.

    • @M4ttNet
      @M4ttNet 5 років тому +1

      @@apocalypseap True, a nice excuse for them to charge more and claim it covers shipping to not secure your video card.

    • @bestpcgaming7454
      @bestpcgaming7454 5 років тому +3

      Rumor has it that the 2077 Mac Pro will be priced at 699,999 usd

  • @SO88Cars
    @SO88Cars 5 років тому +134

    the wheels cost more than my pc lol

    • @OrigamiVR
      @OrigamiVR 5 років тому +5

      Lmao even a dollar is more expensive than my pc.. because i dont have one 😭😭😭

    • @juice-ve6yz
      @juice-ve6yz 5 років тому +2

      For the price of the monitor stand i could buy my PC 3 times

    • @moose-mancer
      @moose-mancer 5 років тому +13

      @@BrawndoQC Aww, is someone insulting your precious little Apple. Boohoo.

    • @NickB-md1oy
      @NickB-md1oy 5 років тому +1

      Brawndo are you ok bud?

    • @pakane24
      @pakane24 5 років тому +7

      @@BrawndoQC more expensive doesn't mean better

  • @panther0015
    @panther0015 5 років тому +136

    Linus:"pc comparison in another video coming soon"
    Mac:"why do i hear boss music"

  • @montex66
    @montex66 4 роки тому +68

    I've said for years that if you are a gamer or somebody who builds computers for a living, then Apple's products and policies will drive you mad. But I can't help notice how these guys cannot stop themselves from lusting for Apple's products while simultaneously finding disgust at themselves for doing so.

    • @kaibarrera9911
      @kaibarrera9911 3 роки тому +7

      Brand, status, and aesthetics. Nothing else

    • @montex66
      @montex66 3 роки тому +5

      @@kaibarrera9911 I can see the look on the IT Admin's face when I tell him I want a Mac Pro because it makes me look so hip and cool. "Hey would you guy's drop $20K on a workstation for me, not because I have a need to get work done but because I want to impress that girl in accounting".

    • @richardisaacs567
      @richardisaacs567 3 роки тому +2

      Apple, the high class hooker of computer companies

    • @-strawberryrosie-7839
      @-strawberryrosie-7839 2 роки тому +8

      @@SpencerKraisler you can also do that with non-apple devices and have it as seamless aswell.

    • @utopian666
      @utopian666 2 роки тому

      @@-strawberryrosie-7839 no

  • @entitledOne
    @entitledOne 5 років тому +195

    10:57: "They are gonna sell a lot of them"
    Monitor kills itself knowing it's true.

  • @shul5684
    @shul5684 5 років тому +47

    Linus is pretty much the only guy who actually makes me interested in the paid sponsors. The way he words everything is great.

    • @Deathrape2001
      @Deathrape2001 Рік тому

      It's mainly because he acts enthusiastic about EVERYTHING, & does UNIQUE (far as I can tell) recitals of each ad 4 each video, or @ least tons of variations. Just slapping on the same boring 'commercials' would B 2 boring. Now hurry along & buy that $70 ($3 max Chinese) screwdriver LOL!!

  • @oliverl2172
    @oliverl2172 5 років тому +73

    I missed the part when he talks about returning it (as per video title). Can someone help me?

    • @claylifesociety5227
      @claylifesociety5227 5 років тому +10

      Yeah and this is hella annoying. His comment about "poor" is bullshit. I had to check to see if it was april fools.

    • @davidsargentphotography
      @davidsargentphotography 5 років тому +7

      I must have missed it as well. Was it some quick one-liner? Someone got a timestamp?

    • @JoeyTeckno
      @JoeyTeckno 5 років тому +16

      He even mentioned making more videos about it a couple of times 🤷🏻‍♂️ clickbait is here to stay, folks

    • @adfaklsdjf
      @adfaklsdjf 5 років тому +1

      @@JoeyTeckno

    • @shxrpe3646
      @shxrpe3646 5 років тому +1

      Bilir Kasuh he doesn’t say he’s returning it. He mentions how expensive it is. It is clickbait.

  • @ju2au
    @ju2au 4 роки тому +39

    Apple: "My way or the highway!"
    Me: "Bye!"

  • @kristoffseisler2163
    @kristoffseisler2163 5 років тому +24

    2:42 i thought my video started to buffer

  • @smalltime0
    @smalltime0 5 років тому +21

    I have to say, Dell's enterprise support is amazing.
    My Dad's company had it for a fairly old Dell he was using, the guy got out within 24 hours (the fault happened at 5pm at home, I think he got there at 10am the next day).
    The tech diagnosed it as a main board issue, swapped it all out on site, then left once he was sure the issue was non-recurring.

    • @michaelandrews4783
      @michaelandrews4783 2 роки тому

      THIS is what actual professional support looks like , for professional computing products.

  • @uLu_MuLu
    @uLu_MuLu 5 років тому +11

    I love the simple, yet very helpful and easy-to-recognize animations that you used in this video (for indicating the screws and so on...)

  • @MatthewPiotrowski
    @MatthewPiotrowski 3 роки тому +3

    This video reaffirmed my desire to keep my 2009 Mac Pro for the next half decade.
    My processors (2x X5675), ram (96GB), and graphics card (RX580) have been upgraded over the past year for only about $450 and now it does handy work with editing 4K footage

  • @danidow4790
    @danidow4790 5 років тому +65

    "If you're poor buy an iPad" 14:05
    First world poor people.....

    • @Venture8234
      @Venture8234 5 років тому +6

      Laughs while using my laptop with a 10 generation old cpu

    • @DcHellcat
      @DcHellcat 5 років тому +5

      @@Venture8234 Laughs while use a Etch A Sketch

    • @Jellybeantiger
      @Jellybeantiger 5 років тому +4

      no idea those people ,rich people live in their own little bubble.

    • @danidow4790
      @danidow4790 5 років тому +2

      @@fayenotfaye you're in the wrong comment my man

    • @jalapenopoggers8310
      @jalapenopoggers8310 5 років тому

      @@fayenotfaye 🍎 nerd

  • @Machtyn
    @Machtyn 5 років тому +125

    "It's either Apple or nobody!" Or nobody at all when Apple won't even sell replacement parts.

    • @PCFixer
      @PCFixer 5 років тому +18

      Non serviceable proprietary garbage. Apple, HP, Dell, and all companies like them who are trying to make Computers proprietary can go burn to death in a fire.

    • @andrewcool4587
      @andrewcool4587 5 років тому

      Not true.

    • @TJ5897
      @TJ5897 5 років тому

      @@SpartanArmy117 cut the plug off the cpu fan and cut the Molex plug from the psu. Splice the cpu wires to the yellow(12V) and black(ground) Molex wires.
      Sure it'll scream you have no cpu fan when you boot, and the fan will run at max speed 24/7 but it'll work!

  • @jedimastu
    @jedimastu 5 років тому +52

    Apple's favorite part of the video is 12:05 "Forget about the price for a second"

    • @DaGamerDad
      @DaGamerDad 5 років тому +1

      Bahahaha! You speak truth.

    • @SatnamSingh-mx2uc
      @SatnamSingh-mx2uc 5 років тому

      🤣price is what matters to apple the most

    • @salzstangl
      @salzstangl 5 років тому

      That seems to be default for the apple-zealot army

  • @machinist7230
    @machinist7230 5 років тому +187

    Apple is sending a clear message to its customer base - " Go be pòor somewhere else"😂

    • @mihan2d
      @mihan2d 5 років тому +22

      Now it's not Apple fanboys calling everybody else poor, it's Apple calling its fanboys poor. Tables turned.

    • @unnamed715
      @unnamed715 5 років тому +8

      @Thatshow ED Ikr? iSheep always use the same "hurr durr iz cuz ur poor thas y u hate apple hurr durr!" argument and I'm just over here like "What's that? I couldn't hear you over your CPU fan going apeshit because that $2500 paperweight is struggling to run fucking Minecraft!" 🤦‍♂️

    • @danielsandwich8864
      @danielsandwich8864 5 років тому

      It’s not exactly supposed to be a widespread consumer product though. Apple doesn’t expect you to buy this and put it in your home office.

    • @unnamed715
      @unnamed715 5 років тому

      @Thatshow ED LOL! That's rich. Yeah they most often can't prioritize. Which is why they put so much trust and faith behind companies that see them only as walking dollar signs.

    • @unnamed715
      @unnamed715 5 років тому

      @@danielsandwich8864 Irrelevant. You can still build a way better PC for just a fraction of the price and you can pick your own parts. With this Crapple nonsense though, it's all proprietary bullshit and it's usually the most baseline basic shit. But if you want the premium shit, you have to take out a second mortgage on your house! Not to mention you're completely locked out of the very system you just spent a god damn fortune on!

  • @JohnGaltAustria
    @JohnGaltAustria 5 років тому +228

    This title is totally misleading. What is so difficult in naming it "Mac Pro Review"?

  • @diegoduque1597
    @diegoduque1597 5 років тому +102

    Like the music. Makes me feel like I'm watching a movie and they're about to explain different parts to a heist plan

    • @Knicols
      @Knicols 5 років тому +1

      And that's is how we will give this Apple back and have our money again!

    • @tj9959
      @tj9959 5 років тому

      You son of a bitch I’m in

  • @KuruGDI
    @KuruGDI 5 років тому +20

    0:39 No sane person should buy that.
    I get a Threadripper 3 PC with the best motherboard, the best GPU, a fancy case, RGB lighting AND a cheese greater for less than any Apple product that can half as much!

    • @bryanh5524
      @bryanh5524 5 років тому +5

      No sane company would do that and go through the reliability issues that may occur from 10 different hardware companies

    • @KuruGDI
      @KuruGDI 5 років тому +5

      @@bryanh5524 May you didn't know but there are companies offering exactly that and you still have enough money left for 24/7 support

    • @jama211
      @jama211 4 роки тому +1

      Threadripper 3 would lose in a render test against these xeons.

    • @bryanh5524
      @bryanh5524 4 роки тому +3

      jama211 uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @KuruGDI
      @KuruGDI 4 роки тому +2

      @@jama211 @Linus Tech Tips: A man needs clarification!
      Would a single Xeon smoke a single Threadripper?

  • @Omlet221
    @Omlet221 5 років тому +213

    The most ridiculous thing was the 400$ wheels. That got me laughing.

    •  5 років тому +24

      But they look so good next to the $1000 monitor stand!

    • @curtisbme
      @curtisbme 5 років тому +9

      That is a fair price. Assuming it uses 40 wheels.

    • @lfla0179
      @lfla0179 5 років тому +18

      For 400 I get wheels on my car.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 5 років тому +1

      @ Exactly. Apple doesn't care about your commentary regarding their products, so long as you fork over the dough for the item.

    • @slam5
      @slam5 5 років тому

      it must be gold plated!!!!

  • @lilbabygroot
    @lilbabygroot 5 років тому +14

    Somebody had fun with the animations of this video and I appreciate them😁

  • @NicolaBorsari
    @NicolaBorsari 5 років тому +25

    Thanks for mentioning compositing Linus! I’ve always wondered when we’ll see you building a machine for that.
    To integrate, in commercial workflows, Online Editing and sometimes Compositing is often done with ProRes files in an application called Autodesk Flame that runs only on Mac or Linux boxes. I’ve seen lots of facilities using macs for this so for them, this is great stuff! Especially as they don’t need the built-in monitor of an iMac Pro.

    • @slipoch6635
      @slipoch6635 5 років тому +1

      Ah Flame, that takes me back. Inferno was awesome on Linux. Ran like a dog on mac in it's day. Although a lot of my former inferno customers are now using NUKE+ others.

  • @Nicholas_Terry
    @Nicholas_Terry 3 роки тому +1

    0:37 absolutely LOVE the fit. I have 2 of them, in fact.

  • @Supportik
    @Supportik 5 років тому +23

    That SOS thing is actually funny, i mean.. at least they got some sense of humor.

    • @k995100
      @k995100 5 років тому +6

      Yeah but think they spent days working that in and testing , that costs and why? For the youtube video's and reviews nobody else is going to see/use this.

    • @jakehead20
      @jakehead20 5 років тому +1

      @@k995100 I don't think it'll take days to develop something to detect whether the system is powered and flashing LEDs.

    • @pmAdministrator
      @pmAdministrator 5 років тому

      No they dont ^^

    • @CatCubed
      @CatCubed 5 років тому

      @@k995100 It's just a blinking LED, you don't spend DAYS working on it lol

    • @k995100
      @k995100 5 років тому

      @@CatCubed Its clear you guys have little clue about developing something for consumer market.
      Yes this in total has taken days to get it in, peanuts on the total budget but seeing a regular user wont ever notice this this is purely for show and reviews.

  • @Pendleton115
    @Pendleton115 5 років тому +113

    “This is not a replacement for your old cheese grater, that’s why we killed Software support on it the same year we released the new Mac Pro!”

    • @ryanross3322
      @ryanross3322 5 років тому

      That's the first thing I thought when I saw the front is a cheese grater lol 🤣

    • @Kyugorn
      @Kyugorn 5 років тому +2

      Also the new Mac Pro: *looks like a cheese grater*

  • @TeamTeddy666
    @TeamTeddy666 5 років тому +20

    10:40 They actually did it

  • @fakecubed
    @fakecubed 4 роки тому +6

    Linux is definitely the future for serious work. I run a Linux workstation now, and I cannot see any scenario in which that will ever change. Could be happier, but not by much. I'm learning DaVinci Resolve and I've moved over to a lot of other Linux-native tools which are just as good or better than what I was using in the past, or the same cross-platform tools which end up running better on Linux anyway. Apple really lost their way. Microsoft, too, for what it's worth. Being able to make the decisions that make the most sense for me, whenever I want, and being beholden to no one company is very freeing and ultimately is more productive. macOS has become a cargo cult. The sooner "pros" realize this, the better.

  • @SL2797
    @SL2797 5 років тому +111

    3:44: Because nothing says "simplicity" like a giant cheese grater.

    • @rdvgrd6
      @rdvgrd6 5 років тому +3

      And yet the giant cheese grater pc case copy sells like hot cakes to pc fanboys for its “killer design”

    • @magicoddeffect
      @magicoddeffect 5 років тому +1

      The amount of machine time taken to make every single one of those front panels is in no way simple. I don't know what's with Apple.

    • @yeezeid
      @yeezeid 5 років тому +1

      Design's pretty neat tho, here's to hoping some Chinese clones pop up soon.

    • @666narutomanfan
      @666narutomanfan 5 років тому

      @@rdvgrd6 no it sells to apple fanboys that are too poor to buy one, but want the status it gives. Try again lol

    • @rdvgrd6
      @rdvgrd6 5 років тому +1

      Cunning Chaos no one gets status from a Mac Pro. Try again

  • @Nadia1989
    @Nadia1989 5 років тому +144

    Linus: _"I asked Apple support..."_
    Me: wait, Apple support _still_ answers you? Even after the Mac Pro display saga?

    • @cossakrose
      @cossakrose 5 років тому +21

      They had to use a burner phone. Lol

    • @Rabolisk
      @Rabolisk 5 років тому +8

      @@cossakrose And got one of his lesser known employees to do the call so they don't notice the voice...

  • @dawe_8619
    @dawe_8619 4 роки тому +9

    You don't need a desktop
    Wait isn't that the opposite of what Steve wanted to say, when he started building wooden boxes with screen in a garage ?

  • @karu8291
    @karu8291 5 років тому +38

    It makes me happy to see that bit about studios looking into using Linux :)

    • @wilsongilley76
      @wilsongilley76 5 років тому +2

      So I'm confused that Mac that's 16k can't even be a FTP server? Wtf apple. I can see some IT company ordering these and then some person just using it for Facebook and social networking sadly, but I thought it would be a raw processing power genious solution.. I've worked in video and adtec digital a company I used to work for made real time mpeg4 encoders that cost lots of money but geez, only a decoder?.... The issue I see right now is 4k isn't wide spread, I guess they're trying to amp up being ready for what 8K can deliver and maybe the military can use these to some full power, but lots of people could install Ubuntu on a Dell or buy a windows 10 pc with a lot of matching power. Crazy.

    • @FeeLtheHertZ
      @FeeLtheHertZ 5 років тому +1

      Reaper is legit - nothing but praise when I was working at Guitar Centers pro audio section w/ some people even using it on Linux - now granted, Linux has a LOOOONG way to go before its remotely considered good enough for wide-spread use, mainly due to audio pipelining and interface support (software itself is getting better), but it's a great kernel with solid distros, hopefully - and this is coming from someone who *vastly* prefers Apples better platform - it gains traction.

    • @wilsongilley76
      @wilsongilley76 5 років тому +1

      @@FeeLtheHertZ I like audacity, and a few Linux video tools but final cut seems to be king. I also enjoy the flip side with Adobe premier

    • @Alexlfm
      @Alexlfm 5 років тому +1

      Wilson Gilley Apple killed OSX server way back when the killed the Xserve 10 years ago. They basically only want it to provide those few Mac services and nothing else. It’s a shame since OSX Server was a great option for Mac shops and integrated well with Windows and Linux networks as well (although I only used it as an iChat server for a cheaper site to site version of polycom). As for the afterburner card... well, it’s Apple. Personally I think they’ve been making HORRIBLE decisions in regards to the creative industry over the last decade. Between FCP X that still isn’t as good as 7, no good pro option, config stagnation, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re loosing market share heavily to Windows and even Linux. My personal belief is that Steve was the one who focused on the pro market and understood it’s needs. Had he not died it may have been different.

    • @wilsongilley76
      @wilsongilley76 5 років тому +2

      @@Alexlfm yeah that's some shit to be honest. If I bought a 16k windows pc I'd definitely be running a server windows OS that should support all my apps I used to use windows 2008r2 and it ran everything I could throw at it for win7x apps.. Even if I used other apps like wamp for http or servu ftp etc

  • @A1BASE
    @A1BASE 5 років тому +25

    ‘This thing isn’t going anywhere during shipping, although we did have to reseat ours....’
    Eh?

    • @waitandhope
      @waitandhope 5 років тому +2

      Yes because it's a design flaw, anything that dis-engages during shipping is a design flaw IMO and any idiot that tested the underlying mechanism should've been aware of that at Apple

    • @A1BASE
      @A1BASE 5 років тому +1

      Sam DeRenzis Well, yeah. 100 points for getting the gist.
      Along with how ridiculous the two back-to-back statements from Linus were.

    • @rfouR_4
      @rfouR_4 5 років тому +1

      @@A1BASE to be fair I think he was talking about potential damage in shipping. Reseating is one thing, but sagging, damaged, or worse broken PCIE slots are another. Not an entirely uncommon thing to happen with heavier GPUs when shipping. But it's something that's often remedied with a simple but effective bracket in some prebuilts anyways. So not THAT impressive, but still, the over engineered solution is cool in and of itself.

  • @NoTraceOfSense
    @NoTraceOfSense 5 років тому +155

    Last time I was this early Linus hadn’t dropped the Razer Blade
    *edit: I’m an idiot. torvalds and Sebastian have the same first name.

    • @leothepeo
      @leothepeo 5 років тому +6

      Linux makes laptops?

    • @MuhammedGemci
      @MuhammedGemci 5 років тому

      @@leothepeo seems so lol

    • @ccgb92
      @ccgb92 5 років тому

      Wow, so funny! I'm laughing so hard omg

    • @amr.c1650
      @amr.c1650 5 років тому

      @@ccgb92 You should call this number : 800-273-TALK (8255)

  • @Zycthe
    @Zycthe 4 роки тому +24

    the 2019 Mac Pro looks more like a cheese grater than the 2006 Mac Pro.

    • @angel-stories2547
      @angel-stories2547 3 роки тому

      because it is a cherse grater, a cheese grater that costs 16k dollars lol

  • @KirbyNPenguins
    @KirbyNPenguins 5 років тому +34

    4:34 “reasonable config”
    >contains 768GB of RAM
    Bruh

    • @wzr3293
      @wzr3293 5 років тому

      That amount of ram is useless really.

    • @spaceman-pe5je
      @spaceman-pe5je 5 років тому +1

      @@wzr3293 depends if you're doing heavy video editing etc.

  • @harbl99
    @harbl99 5 років тому +52

    "Pricing? Stick a extra zero on there." -- Apple, Thonk Diffunt

  • @maurice7017
    @maurice7017 5 років тому +14

    10:24 imagine just editing some footage and out of nowhere, linus just pops up on your screen and says: *NEWSFLASH*

  • @LinuxJedi
    @LinuxJedi 5 років тому +68

    Apple 10 years ago: we strive to make our products affordable
    Apple 2020: “Product buy-in: 40 million" "Actual Product: 200 million" also we are gonna need your first born an arm AND a leg....ಠ_ಠ

  • @burnin8orable
    @burnin8orable 5 років тому +20

    2:44 They labelled the bandwidth on the pci-e slots. That's actually super useful.

    • @WinterCharmVT
      @WinterCharmVT 5 років тому +3

      Yeah, there are just some niceties that Apple did with the Mac Pro that I *hope* become standard for other PCs. That PCIE lock switch is great, especially because it's *impossible* to reach back there if you have 3 or 4 PCIE cards taking up the slots.
      The cooling system also looks amazing. IMO semi-passive designs beat even liquid cooling, because they're so damn quiet.

    • @neotheoneandonly2
      @neotheoneandonly2 5 років тому +3

      See, I love the how much love Apple had for details like that.
      But not all their products make a lick of sense sometimes and seems to be a bit all over the place.

  • @Anshuman0910
    @Anshuman0910 5 років тому +99

    "reasonable config" with 768 gigs of RAM. Yeah.

    • @davidrozo766
      @davidrozo766 5 років тому +10

      For a professional in guessing?

    • @petermonte2180
      @petermonte2180 5 років тому +1

      Makes me wish I could make a Windows PC that can game and run unreal engine 4 and other things

    • @RemX405
      @RemX405 5 років тому +8

      @@davidrozo766 Even most database servers, which eats tons of RAM, don't come close to this amount of RAM. Since Apple released this thing, it really highlighted how people, even tech people, don't know sh*t about how RAM works. Not saying LTT doesn't know how RAM works, but saying 768 gigs is reasonable is ludicrous.

    • @jblps
      @jblps 5 років тому +3

      For handling RAW 8k footage... yeah

    • @TheShitSmith
      @TheShitSmith 5 років тому +16

      For VFX, yeah that's a reasonable amount of RAM. You often end up with all the files from a whole scene in RAM at the same time which with 8K raw footage gets huge really fast. It's why you often see more RAM than storage servers, on server grade hardware.

  • @CEKROM
    @CEKROM 5 років тому +32

    0:31 The new one looks a little bit more like a cheese grater =D

  • @robtech341
    @robtech341 3 роки тому +1

    At 3:43 I really like the offset angle of the Lucifer in Grey, looks cool at that angle.

  • @NotsoHardcore1
    @NotsoHardcore1 5 років тому +152

    3 days after warranty it breaks "oh we can't fix it need to buy a new one"

    • @theheadpriest
      @theheadpriest 5 років тому +13

      Apple in a nutshell

    • @willhaney96
      @willhaney96 5 років тому +10

      For a fault that happened previously that they were able to fix

    • @nofksgiven4550
      @nofksgiven4550 5 років тому +3

      Happened with me on my iPhone 6s..1 month after warranty is over...”buy a new one”

    • @ipissed
      @ipissed 5 років тому +8

      We recommend buying an extra one so you won't have to go through this again next year. The really smart people buy 3. 🍎💰

    • @XenoSpyro
      @XenoSpyro 5 років тому

      Random.

  • @theofficialgman
    @theofficialgman 5 років тому +48

    Large companies could literally hire another tech employee to upgrade their machines for cheaper than paying the apple tax of purchasing the upgrades.

    • @ark_knight
      @ark_knight 5 років тому +8

      They probably do. But their artists want Apple lol

    • @p00lking
      @p00lking 5 років тому +1

      They could, but takes a lot of time and money

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons 5 років тому +6

      @@ark_knight me, and a ton of other artists do NOT. But yeah, those adept to the cult, are really "loyal" (I would call that more necessity than loyalty, tho). A bunch as just can't navigate a Windows or Linux for the life of them, let alone use it professionally. I can, and have, at many jobs, and at home. The three OSes have their advantages, best way to use them, and own beauty. In ALL I can create fully pro digital paint /illustration artwork, 3D work and graphic design, and the 3 of them are very stable and functional, if the artist is savvy on each system.
      And yep. With a fraction of the money you have a fully functional PC workstation (intel or AMD, more effectively for the latter, in the latest year, although not an AMD fanboy). Of course, for film, working in video that needs certain treatment (HDR, etc), YEP, in there, specially about the XDR monitor, they have a point in that for that narrow specialized professional niche, it's a good deal, hard to find at a better price. The Mac Pro... hmm.. more doubtful. You can indeed build PC solutions of the kind. And for every pro field's need. The thing is, the Apple Pro is already built for a type of work/production for the film industry, I give them that, obviously. There's a crazy ton of more professional fields about graphics creation out there, though.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 5 років тому +3

      3polygons . The comment about Apple users not being able to navigate or use Windows for productivity can be said about any user that is comfortable with a single OS. This has been even demonstrated on the channel.

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons 5 років тому

      @@robertt9342 Yep! I agree. I worked almost a decade at a company where most people were fully unable to handle any other thing than Linux for their work or home use. While I was comfortable with both (Windows and Linux), and the few macs they had in the office. Had to use Macs in design studios /advertising companies before (since '95!), and well, Linux at several web dev and other development companies, and at home just out of curiosity : had muIti boot with several linux distros + Windows on each of my machines, for many years. Only said so as I have found many instances, online and offline, in which even personal friends, specially other artists, which have confessed to me being unable to handle a Windows machine, and some even saying not even being able to make a single move in Linux. I was thinking of those (many colleague artists). I was not implying there can't be Mac users who are expert users of the three platforms. I had a boss that was quite capable of it. Is not the majority of what I find, though. I find more cases of "cross platform users" in those handling PCs than in Mac users. And way less interest in the other two platforms, among Apple users, for all what I have read online, and checked in RL with coworkers and personal friends. Anyway, take it as a personal stat, not pretending it to be a strict rule.