9 tons may not be much but 3 to 4 such aircrafts along with air to air refuellung 2 to 3 tons per each combat aircraft can extend the range of nearly dozen combat aircraft at time allowing iaf to do more with less number of aircraft.
@@User_p56yyj we lack the metallurgy bro, there is thrust deficit when the engine operates at higher altitudes. We need the alloys to withstand that impulsive force and temperature , for the engine to operate at full capacity. to answer your question, it's both core as well as afterburner.
Once we finally develop AMCA, Tejas Mk2 and TEDBF, and new engines we will finally probably start upgrading and developing even newer projects so much more quickly
America has developed 5th gen jet earlier what happened we are using 4th gen su 30 mki if all will use 6th gen at that time we will use 5th and develop 5.5 gen amca mk 2 very quickly.
It's a joint company of Russia and India so yes it's easier for them because Russia already have multiple Jet engine but our Babu and Some corrupt officials are only sleeping.
Reason it was fast is because Russia which has decades of expertise in high temperature alloys did the work. Basically the job of developing the hot 🔥 section of the engine was entrusted to them.
The Dry kaveri is still based on older metallurgy. If the program will get proven and start getting funds, then there are high chances that with improved metallurgy in dry variant and with better afterburner, the combo will surpass all the expectations.
A Kaveri derivative engine 2.0 is being developed with improved metallurgy. It's still a good 4 to 5 years away even if fast-tracked. We can, however, hope to get around 85 to 90 KN with a full A/B section and a flat-rated one at that.
Very observant - even 84kN F404IN20 has Single Crystal Casting Turbine Blades since 2007 - required to withstand greater Heat required to generate greater Thrust...
@@Reality-Prevails F404's effective thrust drops down by 5KN in Indian conditions even after tweaking the air inlets. Kaveri derivative is the way to go while the current version should be integrated on an LSP and tested right away..
@humungous09 Feb 2007 BANGALORE, INDIA -- Earlier this year, the F404-GE-IN20 was trial-installed in Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) as part of final evaluations toward flight-testing, scheduled for mid-2007. The F404-IN-20 engine has generated more than 19,000 pounds (85 kN) uninstalled thrust and has completed 330 hours of Accelerated Mission testing, which is the equivalent of 1,000 hours of flight operation. The F404-GE-IN20 succeeds F404-F2J3 development engines used for nearly 600 flights, cumulatively covering eight engines. Based on the F404-GE-402, the F404-GE-IN20 is the highest rated F404 model and includes a higher-flow fan, increased thrust, a Full Authority Digital Electronic Control system, single-crystal turbine blades and a variety of single-engine features...
Feb 2007 BANGALORE, INDIA -- Earlier this year, the F404-GE-IN20 was trial-installed in Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) as part of final evaluations toward flight-testing, scheduled for mid-2007. The F404-IN-20 engine has generated more than 19,000 pounds (85 kN) uninstalled thrust and has completed 330 hours of Accelerated Mission testing, which is the equivalent of 1,000 hours of flight operation. The F404-GE-IN20 succeeds F404-F2J3 development engines used for nearly 600 flights, cumulatively covering eight engines. Based on the F404-GE-402, the F404-GE-IN20 is the highest rated F404 model and includes a higher-flow fan, increased thrust, a Full Authority Digital Electronic Control system, single-crystal turbine blades and a variety of single-engine features...
C295 is a multi mission aircraft. It can be adapted for reconnaissance cargo passenger air to air refueller Para trooper and other civil commercial and defence purposes. Good to have it. Also good work from gtre and brahmos aerospace for after burner in kaveri engine. Waiting to be inducted soon in our tejas. All the testing and and other upgradation should be done ASAP as due to this engine everything is stalled and whole of india is waiting and watching gtre brahmos aerospace drdo and hal. Good work.
If kaveri engine news isnt hyped one then, it one of the biggest happy News for India, A 29kn + 48 kn =77Kn = GE F404 (77kn), thats really a news which every one be wanting to see. they should eye at testing now
AeroIndia2021 Ghatak display had a spec board with 46kN dry Kaveri while F404IN20 is 84kN and Feb 2023 - Y Dilip “I was also the director of GTRE (Gas Turbine Research Establishment) till a few weeks back. I must assure you that the development of the engine today is 73 kilonewtons as against 78 kilonewtons, which is the requirement with the Kaveri engine…
@@Reality-Prevails The Ghatak engine is not the engine that Tejas will use. That was a derated engine as it's objective was for a stealth light bomber drone which did not require high speed.
I have been hearing about AMCA and fifth gen aircrafts from 2005. But even after almost 25 years we have seen no material development in the 5th gen direction. Now when the world is developing 6th gen we are still stuck with the ideal of 5th gen.
Bro we unfortunately had good intelligent engineers and scientists and ideas too behind it. But the political play was very unstable and baby khangress was only in the intention to loot India and develop Pakistan. So obviously. The most development I see on AMCA and Tejas was after NDA came into power.
Your patience will soon be rewarded - at least according to the unkept promise makers - ADA Chief Deodhare who is still ADA Chief at Aero India 2021 during a NEWS9 Live interview Feb 2021 - "AMCA design is over...some parts have already been manufactured...and 2024 is what is planned for its rollout...and it will happen...and flight immediately after that by 2024 2025...and 2031 we want to start production"...
“Gen” is just a marketing tactic 6th gen will not feature anti gravity propulsion If you want you can say that even AMCA is going to be 6th gen because its going to feature cutting edge tech like fly by light, EOTS,IRST, Stealthy design,GaN based aesa radar, top notch BVR missiles, manned-unmanned teaming active RCS reduction….what else do you want
When will INDIA become विश्वगुरु ?? If we have missiles that go up to mach 20-25 do we need to ask for a permanent seat or will any country dare to challenge us ?? I think we can dominate the world in that scenario ❤️🔥
How many years it will take to come up with minimum 120 kn engine 🤔 What 80kn engine is going to benefit 🤔 Stupidity is going on from years 🙄 bring innovation in approach and focus in designing part of jet and use of flatbed engine. Too slow work seems to be going on. Give different modules for engine, design to develop to private firms and let them comeup with their products. Don't sit on programs like sitting ducks 😮
No,bro. 1. Kaveri engine for (twin engine fighter jet , drone like:- Ghatak or training flight Jet) 2. Kaveri 2.0 approx 90-95 kn (upgrade of Kaveri engine not a new engine) , let's Kaveri certifications ,then 3-5 years after approval of 💵 It's will be easy and early for f414 , 80% TOT 3. 110-130kn with foreign partner (Approx 10-12 years time) Maybe 🤔 will declare 2025 .
What's Your Opinion ? : IAF evaluates Tactical Air to air refuelling capability for C-295M ?
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It's not ideal as refuelling being only 9 ton. C130 or C390 medium aircraft is ideal. C295 can become ideal awacs & naval surveillance.
9 tons may not be much but 3 to 4 such aircrafts along with air to air refuellung 2 to 3 tons per each combat aircraft can extend the range of nearly dozen combat aircraft at time allowing iaf to do more with less number of aircraft.
@@sigma-sigma1 it's stop gap option for short distance. But not ideal for long distance & for a squadron of jets.
If the Afterburner of the Kaveri engine is a success, it is the best news.
Why
@@User_p56yyjthen we became fully independent from other countries engines
@@-Blue-_ was after burner or, core issues was the problem with kaveri engine
@@User_p56yyjcore issues already solved
@@User_p56yyj we lack the metallurgy bro, there is thrust deficit when the engine operates at higher altitudes. We need the alloys to withstand that impulsive force and temperature , for the engine to operate at full capacity.
to answer your question, it's both core as well as afterburner.
Excellent news that kavery engine afterburner is ready
Thanks to Russia 🔥
@@mtrest4 russia did not gave u tech just providing testing facilities for money, if thanks is for that then yes thanks to them
Once we finally develop AMCA, Tejas Mk2 and TEDBF, and new engines we will finally probably start upgrading and developing even newer projects so much more quickly
Na , untill then China,US and Russia will have their 6th gen tech so we will probably will able to do it after 2050 .
America has developed 5th gen jet earlier what happened we are using 4th gen su 30 mki if all will use 6th gen at that time we will use 5th and develop 5.5 gen amca mk 2 very quickly.
@@Shucasmlol seriously? You think 6th gen is that easy
They need more than 10years for research because its completly new
@Sjjswkq.q ye 6th gen sb faltu hai bhai
Usa kitni bar f35 use krta hai?
Developing a radar is easier than developing a stealthy fighter jet
@@ShucasmAmca will be 5th plus gen.
The afterburner news is the "news of the day"
Brahmos company made afterburner so easily. We should have given then the contract earlier only
At the end only reliable partner helps😇
It's a joint company of Russia and India so yes it's easier for them because Russia already have multiple Jet engine but our Babu and Some corrupt officials are only sleeping.
Our air force wants only western engine 😂😂😂 ...we could have got Russian engine for ourselves ..if hod hellos export the aircraft with American engine
Who had the Kaveri afterburner contract before?
Reason it was fast is because Russia which has decades of expertise in high temperature alloys did the work.
Basically the job of developing the hot 🔥 section of the engine was entrusted to them.
The Dry kaveri is still based on older metallurgy. If the program will get proven and start getting funds, then there are high chances that with improved metallurgy in dry variant and with better afterburner, the combo will surpass all the expectations.
A Kaveri derivative engine 2.0 is being developed with improved metallurgy. It's still a good 4 to 5 years away even if fast-tracked. We can, however, hope to get around 85 to 90 KN with a full A/B section and a flat-rated one at that.
Very observant - even 84kN F404IN20 has Single Crystal Casting Turbine Blades since 2007 - required to withstand greater Heat required to generate greater Thrust...
@@Reality-Prevails F404's effective thrust drops down by 5KN in Indian conditions even after tweaking the air inlets. Kaveri derivative is the way to go while the current version should be integrated on an LSP and tested right away..
@humungous09 Feb 2007 BANGALORE, INDIA -- Earlier this year, the F404-GE-IN20 was trial-installed in Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) as part of final evaluations toward flight-testing, scheduled for mid-2007. The F404-IN-20 engine has generated more than 19,000 pounds (85 kN) uninstalled thrust and has completed 330 hours of Accelerated Mission testing, which is the equivalent of 1,000 hours of flight operation.
The F404-GE-IN20 succeeds F404-F2J3 development engines used for nearly 600 flights, cumulatively covering eight engines. Based on the F404-GE-402, the F404-GE-IN20 is the highest rated F404 model and includes a higher-flow fan, increased thrust, a Full Authority Digital Electronic Control system, single-crystal turbine blades and a variety of single-engine features...
Feb 2007 BANGALORE, INDIA -- Earlier this year, the F404-GE-IN20 was trial-installed in Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) as part of final evaluations toward flight-testing, scheduled for mid-2007. The F404-IN-20 engine has generated more than 19,000 pounds (85 kN) uninstalled thrust and has completed 330 hours of Accelerated Mission testing, which is the equivalent of 1,000 hours of flight operation.
The F404-GE-IN20 succeeds F404-F2J3 development engines used for nearly 600 flights, cumulatively covering eight engines. Based on the F404-GE-402, the F404-GE-IN20 is the highest rated F404 model and includes a higher-flow fan, increased thrust, a Full Authority Digital Electronic Control system, single-crystal turbine blades and a variety of single-engine features...
C295 is a multi mission aircraft. It can be adapted for reconnaissance cargo passenger air to air refueller Para trooper and other civil commercial and defence purposes. Good to have it. Also good work from gtre and brahmos aerospace for after burner in kaveri engine. Waiting to be inducted soon in our tejas. All the testing and and other upgradation should be done ASAP as due to this engine everything is stalled and whole of india is waiting and watching gtre brahmos aerospace drdo and hal. Good work.
Watch out America.... Here comes our own kaveri engine. Jai bharat.
Advanced Anti-Drone systems should be developed. ....it is HIGH DEMAND ON THESE DAYS...
Every day kaveri engine is doing better, good job 👍
If kaveri engine news isnt hyped one then, it one of the biggest happy News for India, A 29kn + 48 kn =77Kn = GE F404 (77kn), thats really a news which every one be wanting to see. they should eye at testing now
Dry kaveri engine produce maximum of 51kn dry thrust.
AeroIndia2021 Ghatak display had a spec board with 46kN dry Kaveri while F404IN20 is 84kN and Feb 2023 - Y Dilip “I was also the director of GTRE (Gas Turbine Research Establishment) till a few weeks back. I must assure you that the development of the engine today is 73 kilonewtons as against 78 kilonewtons, which is the requirement with the Kaveri engine…
@@Reality-Prevails
The Ghatak engine is not the engine that Tejas will use.
That was a derated engine as it's objective was for a stealth light bomber drone which did not require high speed.
@mtrest4 Ghatak engine is Kaveri without afterburner to save Kaveri...
Sir it displayed 54kn of thrust in russia continuously, u can also expect more than 30 kn from afteburner, it will be 85kn plus for sure or around it
I have been hearing about AMCA and fifth gen aircrafts from 2005. But even after almost 25 years we have seen no material development in the 5th gen direction. Now when the world is developing 6th gen we are still stuck with the ideal of 5th gen.
We will keep our hopes again on AMCA. They said that by next 10 years, AMCA would enter into service. Let's see.
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Bro we unfortunately had good intelligent engineers and scientists and ideas too behind it. But the political play was very unstable and baby khangress was only in the intention to loot India and develop Pakistan. So obviously. The most development I see on AMCA and Tejas was after NDA came into power.
Your patience will soon be rewarded - at least according to the unkept promise makers - ADA Chief Deodhare who is still ADA Chief at Aero India 2021 during a NEWS9 Live interview Feb 2021 - "AMCA design is over...some parts have already been manufactured...and 2024 is what is planned for its rollout...and it will happen...and flight immediately after that by 2024 2025...and 2031 we want to start production"...
“Gen” is just a marketing tactic 6th gen will not feature anti gravity propulsion If you want you can say that even AMCA is going to be 6th gen because its going to feature cutting edge tech like fly by light, EOTS,IRST, Stealthy design,GaN based aesa radar, top notch BVR missiles, manned-unmanned teaming active RCS reduction….what else do you want
Bharat Mata ki Jai
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Laser and robotic unman system be focus Indian army I think batter
Can HAL Marut become a reality with Kaveri engine making an alternate export option with higher Indigenous content?
Jai hind
Jai Hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Ab bs jaldi se kaveri engine ban jaye to orca and redbf india ko banana chahiye
Nice video
❤️❤️ AMCA ❤️❤️
3:47 Has anyone figured out what is being said?
It sounds like "Omar Sausage" 🌭
Auto 3d thrust vectoring jet engine? Only russia has this technology. India could be 2nd country. Finally al31 engine TOT is helping😄
Yep - even Russia isn't using 3D thrust vectoring now obsolete with BVR air combat for Su75...
If Kaveri 2.0 is certiftied in the next 3 years... the next 90 Tejas MK1A can use Kaveri instead of GE-F404.
I think India should expand brahmos aireospace company to a fighter jet+missile manufacturing company.
The afterburner was done by Russia which has decades of expertise in high temperature alloys for jet engines.
When will INDIA become विश्वगुरु ?? If we have missiles that go up to mach 20-25 do we need to ask for a permanent seat or will any country dare to challenge us ?? I think we can dominate the world in that scenario ❤️🔥
PLEASE PLEASE 🙏🏽 CERTIFIDE ON FAST TRACK KAVERI WITH 90 K.N THEN INHANCE IT UPTO 120 ALSO ON FAST TRACK
1st one to watch the video 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Damn
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30 year of study and zero in our hand. Institutes and researchers are only working on papers😢😢😢😢
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Mark 1A engine nahi Hai.baatAMCA ki ho Rahi Hai.kaveri ko 50 years legange.
Only made and make in India 🇮🇳 DRDO and IIT made pump jet propulsion 🇮🇳
80KN? kamse kam 90KN to hona chahiye
Aladin ka chirag ko haat nahin aga hai.
Jai shree ram
How many years it will take to come up with minimum 120 kn engine 🤔
What 80kn engine is going to benefit 🤔
Stupidity is going on from years 🙄
bring innovation in approach and focus in designing part of jet and use of flatbed engine.
Too slow work seems to be going on.
Give different modules for engine, design to develop to private firms and let them comeup with their products.
Don't sit on programs like sitting ducks 😮
No,bro.
1. Kaveri engine for (twin engine fighter jet , drone like:- Ghatak or training flight Jet)
2. Kaveri 2.0 approx 90-95 kn (upgrade of Kaveri engine not a new engine) , let's Kaveri certifications ,then 3-5 years after approval of 💵
It's will be easy and early for f414 , 80% TOT
3. 110-130kn with foreign partner
(Approx 10-12 years time)
Maybe 🤔 will declare 2025 .
JH
smash is dummy missile.