Thank you so very much for this most excellent Bible lesson. Now, if you will excuse me I need to listen to this several more times...just to initiate the process of unlearning all the bad theology I have internalized over a lifetime.
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I love this sermon and I have really enjoyed taking in many more of the Douglas Wilson sermons here on UA-cam. We don't agree on everything, but I can say that Doug definitely delivers the Word of God. I am grateful for his ministry. I can empathize with his post-millennial ideas and beliefs, but I'm a-millennial. But I still have lived & acted the way a post-millennial would espouse. That is how we Christians all should act and live. Doug is an excellent preacher. God Bless you Doug and the whole family & ministry!
Pause at 11:42 to see the graphic referenced at 6:33. The graphic made me laugh out loud and think of my son; he's such an imp. Now more than ever I don't want him to ever loose that, I just pray "Yahweh, help me help him channel it to good use."
I'm a Roman Catholic, we have all the same problems with feminism 10 fold. Thoroughly enjoy your good work, even if we differ on some stuff here and there. Keep it up.
So so good. Plus references from two of my favorite CSL books! Thank you!!! I have tried so hard to convince loved ones that real love is more stern and splendid than mere kindness(CSL again). But their argument is that what Doug calls winsome tartness (love that phrase) alienates even those on our side. I say then they are not really on our side. I am to the point where I don’t care about the words or the tone used or ascribed or perceived. As long as truth is being said. Shouldn’t we all be at that point? There’s a war on!
Right off the bat, “I don’t think so Skippy.” communicates much more than “I oppose you, and I do not care”. It communicates that you are not a person who is going to be swayed by emotional appeal, AND you are an intelligent person with a capacity for humor. Unbelievers have a prejudice towards Christians, in that they believe Christians to be humorless ice maidens. “I don’t think so Skippy.” says “On guard! There’s an active mind behind this religious line in the sand.” which in a very interesting way is actually a bridge towards communication.
This is great stuff. I love my PCA pastor, but we don’t get stuff like this. Wow! Where has this stuff been hiding? This is almost as good as his sermon after 9/11....if you haven’t heard it search God Struck America. It’s awesome too.
You can also read "Rules for Reformers" from him (Douglas Wilson) as well, and I also recommend you "Blood-Bought World " by Toby J. Sumpter as well who is also one of the associate pastors at Christ Church which is pastored by Mr. Wilson himself. They are both great and needed books in our age. You could also try "Same-sex Mirage" by Wilson as well. You can get it from both Amazon or from @canonpress
Hey brother, I recently started becoming more of a fan of brother Doug - I think he's a tremendous gift to the church. And I think one of the things he does extremely well is exemplify how to be shrewd with the dealings of this culture, and not be outwitted by the sons of darkness. I think something to keep in mind is that one of the fruits of the Spirit is gentleness. And I want to make sure that's recognized, lest one throws the baby of necessary fruits of the Spirit out with the bathwater of unbiblical pushover-ness. I'm thankful for your zeal! My exhortation would be to temper it with the biblical balance. "I'm sick of being nice" concerned me as more of an emotional rise from an inspiring talk rather than a sober-minded contemplation on how to move forward biblically. Is sarcasm necessary? Perhaps! And is gentleness necessary? Most definitely so, since it's a vindication of the Spirit living in you. Is speaking the truth necessary? Most definitely so, as well.
I'm a woman having had to be strong in the Truth against a weakened church... it has been spiritually and emotionally confusing. Whereas men should have been stepping into their rightful place and claims as men of God, they have shrugged off integrity as too high a calling for the feigning fawns and fledgling Brothers. For this reason, I thank God others in the church "get it..." that love and Truth coexist not necessarily with a softer tone of voice but with a precise incision to the heart of the problem.
God gave men greater strength to have greater authority and greater reason to have greater responsibility. We can’t actually abdicate these things to women even tho we pretend to.
I think most our biblical behaviour should be be formed around what we are commanded to be in scriptures. While there may be some occasion for spirit led sanctified satire or bluntness, and the truth will be offensive at times, we are not biblically commanded to be rude, or to insult people. The bible does however command us to be kind, gentle, humble, meek, patient, merciful. Jesus, the son of God, went thirty years humbly submitted to the pharisaical authority structure, so I think he earned the right to call them out forcefully at the proper time. I would never give any average immature joe christian the confidence to go around being a jerk to people he thinks are evil. Once you've gained maturity in true humility, meekness and love then I think youve earned the wisdom to use some ponient tartness. Obviously every Christian should resist evil tho no matter what their age in Christ.
@@robpeterson1157 the proverbs give us many reasons why it's not wise to engage with the foolish on their level. I agree there is a valid point Doug is making though. But It should come with a warning label. I know for a fact there will be those that use messages like this to justify their lack of character in how to speak the truth. God is judging the heart that words flow from. truth can be spoken from an arrogant heart. I believe God is much more concerned with the character of our heart than he is with how clever we are in calling out evil. I guess I speak from knowing my own heart. I've certainly said things that were true but with ill intent and malformed character, and the fruit that followed was not birthed from the holy spirit. Marriage is the easiest place to see this. i could act like the only thing that is important is unashamedly speaking truth to my spouse with no concern for how or when i do it. being blunt, snarky, "tart", and clever in my own eyes. I have to be wiser and more humble and loving than that or I won't have a spouse. Thank God he isnt unashamedly tart with me most the time. There are times for sure I get the rebuke I well deserve and it might come in insulting ways, but most the time he is so patient and kind and gentle that it's shocking. Thats the stuff we need to master. That's what we should be known for. That's a warning label that maybe could be useful on this message.
I don’t really disagree with your response here. I think my point is that many in the Christian community seem to be more concerned with being accepted by society than pointing out the sin in society. Obviously, you and I are sinners as well. I’m not suggesting that we scream this from the rooftops but for boldness and truth. That is love, not the drift towards acceptance and the shoulder rubbing that is seemingly so prevalent in mainstream evangelical circles.
This is a judgement. A test. This will be the falling away. This is the biggest thing in ourlifetime. Do we worship the Word of God or ravi zachmydenis.
Winsome tartness: "The ability to communicate effectively that we care about what God thinks, not what man thinks."
Thank you so very much for this most excellent Bible lesson. Now, if you will excuse me I need to listen to this several more times...just to initiate the process of unlearning all the bad theology I have internalized over a lifetime.
Same
This is nothing short of phenomenal and completely spot on in every way.
Thanks, Mark!
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I love how Chestertonian he is, Wilson’s wit and satire is something needed in this world.
22:40 "The little old ladies of both sexes would start complaining..."=winsome tartness
I love this sermon and I have really enjoyed taking in many more of the Douglas Wilson sermons here on UA-cam. We don't agree on everything, but I can say that Doug definitely delivers the Word of God. I am grateful for his ministry. I can empathize with his post-millennial ideas and beliefs, but I'm a-millennial. But I still have lived & acted the way a post-millennial would espouse. That is how we Christians all should act and live. Doug is an excellent preacher. God Bless you Doug and the whole family & ministry!
This is one of the best messages I have heard in years. Thank you brother!
Great great job Doug. You bring a needed voice to the church. May Jesus help us figure out how to engage our world with winsome tartness
Doug, I would appreciate more plain straightforward speech.
Love what you stand for
Thank God for men like Doug Wilson.
Pause at 11:42 to see the graphic referenced at 6:33. The graphic made me laugh out loud and think of my son; he's such an imp. Now more than ever I don't want him to ever loose that, I just pray "Yahweh, help me help him channel it to good use."
Thank you!!
God bless you! Keep preaching the truth and being brave enough to stand up against today's pressure.
PS: Love u Uncle Ethan!
I'm a Roman Catholic, we have all the same problems with feminism 10 fold. Thoroughly enjoy your good work, even if we differ on some stuff here and there. Keep it up.
Cheers, Greg!
Blessings to you brother
Bevelyn Beatty comes to mind. ❤️✝️
So so good. Plus references from two of my favorite CSL books! Thank you!!! I have tried so hard to convince loved ones that real love is more stern and splendid than mere kindness(CSL again). But their argument is that what Doug calls winsome tartness (love that phrase) alienates even those on our side. I say then they are not really on our side. I am to the point where I don’t care about the words or the tone used or ascribed or perceived. As long as truth is being said. Shouldn’t we all be at that point? There’s a war on!
Right off the bat, “I don’t think so Skippy.” communicates much more than “I oppose you, and I do not care”. It communicates that you are not a person who is going to be swayed by emotional appeal, AND you are an intelligent person with a capacity for humor. Unbelievers have a prejudice towards Christians, in that they believe Christians to be humorless ice maidens.
“I don’t think so Skippy.” says “On guard! There’s an active mind behind this religious line in the sand.” which in a very interesting way is actually a bridge towards communication.
Love the Mystery Science Theater reference, Doug!
My God!! Preach preacher!! 👊
Awesome, love it!
This is great stuff. I love my PCA pastor, but we don’t get stuff like this. Wow! Where has this stuff been hiding?
This is almost as good as his sermon after 9/11....if you haven’t heard it search God Struck America. It’s awesome too.
The mask symbolizes the power to make those who do not fear the threat which the mask is said to protect us from, fearful of disagreeing.
Please write a book on "sanctified ridicule" throughout the Bible. I'm sick of being nice.
It is titled "A Serrated Edge." He wrote it quite awhile back.
You can also read "Rules for Reformers" from him (Douglas Wilson) as well, and I also recommend you "Blood-Bought World
" by Toby J. Sumpter as well who is also one of the associate pastors at Christ Church which is pastored by Mr. Wilson himself. They are both great and needed books in our age. You could also try "Same-sex Mirage" by Wilson as well. You can get it from both Amazon or from @canonpress
Hey brother, I recently started becoming more of a fan of brother Doug - I think he's a tremendous gift to the church. And I think one of the things he does extremely well is exemplify how to be shrewd with the dealings of this culture, and not be outwitted by the sons of darkness. I think something to keep in mind is that one of the fruits of the Spirit is gentleness. And I want to make sure that's recognized, lest one throws the baby of necessary fruits of the Spirit out with the bathwater of unbiblical pushover-ness. I'm thankful for your zeal! My exhortation would be to temper it with the biblical balance. "I'm sick of being nice" concerned me as more of an emotional rise from an inspiring talk rather than a sober-minded contemplation on how to move forward biblically. Is sarcasm necessary? Perhaps! And is gentleness necessary? Most definitely so, since it's a vindication of the Spirit living in you. Is speaking the truth necessary? Most definitely so, as well.
Awesome sermon.
So relevant for 2020
I'm a woman having had to be strong in the Truth against a weakened church... it has been spiritually and emotionally confusing. Whereas men should have been stepping into their rightful place and claims as men of God, they have shrugged off integrity as too high a calling for the feigning fawns and fledgling Brothers. For this reason, I thank God others in the church "get it..." that love and Truth coexist not necessarily with a softer tone of voice but with a precise incision to the heart of the problem.
Marvelous!
Excellent!
There's a lot that really deeply annoys me about Doug Wilson. But this is not one. I love everything he says here, and how he says it
General Anthony Clement McAuliff, Battle of the Bugle reply to the Germans demanding surrender - "Nuts".
AMEN!
PREACH
This is probably one of my most favored Doug talks 🤍
God gave men greater strength to have greater authority and greater reason to have greater responsibility. We can’t actually abdicate these things to women even tho we pretend to.
I think most our biblical behaviour should be be formed around what we are commanded to be in scriptures. While there may be some occasion for spirit led sanctified satire or bluntness, and the truth will be offensive at times, we are not biblically commanded to be rude, or to insult people. The bible does however command us to be kind, gentle, humble, meek, patient, merciful. Jesus, the son of God, went thirty years humbly submitted to the pharisaical authority structure, so I think he earned the right to call them out forcefully at the proper time. I would never give any average immature joe christian the confidence to go around being a jerk to people he thinks are evil. Once you've gained maturity in true humility, meekness and love then I think youve earned the wisdom to use some ponient tartness. Obviously every Christian should resist evil tho no matter what their age in Christ.
I think you are missing the point. If we know something to be wrong why is it wrong to unapologetically say so??
@@robpeterson1157 the proverbs give us many reasons why it's not wise to engage with the foolish on their level. I agree there is a valid point Doug is making though. But It should come with a warning label. I know for a fact there will be those that use messages like this to justify their lack of character in how to speak the truth. God is judging the heart that words flow from. truth can be spoken from an arrogant heart. I believe God is much more concerned with the character of our heart than he is with how clever we are in calling out evil. I guess I speak from knowing my own heart. I've certainly said things that were true but with ill intent and malformed character, and the fruit that followed was not birthed from the holy spirit. Marriage is the easiest place to see this. i could act like the only thing that is important is unashamedly speaking truth to my spouse with no concern for how or when i do it. being blunt, snarky, "tart", and clever in my own eyes. I have to be wiser and more humble and loving than that or I won't have a spouse. Thank God he isnt unashamedly tart with me most the time. There are times for sure I get the rebuke I well deserve and it might come in insulting ways, but most the time he is so patient and kind and gentle that it's shocking. Thats the stuff we need to master. That's what we should be known for. That's a warning label that maybe could be useful on this message.
I don’t really disagree with your response here. I think my point is that many in the Christian community seem to be more concerned with being accepted by society than pointing out the sin in society. Obviously, you and I are sinners as well. I’m not suggesting that we scream this from the rooftops but for boldness and truth. That is love, not the drift towards acceptance and the shoulder rubbing that is seemingly so prevalent in mainstream evangelical circles.
@@robpeterson1157 very true
I’d love to see the picture referenced at about 6:53 if anyone has a copy.
This is a judgement. A test. This will be the falling away. This is the biggest thing in ourlifetime. Do we worship the Word of God or ravi zachmydenis.
I worship our Great President-In-Exile!!!
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28:00 He already has.