Tampa Trades Sergachev to Utah for Moser, Geekie and Draft Picks
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- This is the biggest trade of the day so far.
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As a Tampa fan, we will miss Sergy very much. He was a great d man that battled back to be with his team and had one of the best personalities on the team. You will always be a bolt, Sergy
Replacing Stamkos and Sergachev with Guentzel and McDonagh for millions more doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but Geekie could be the X factor. I think they have too many older players to extend the window much, but if he can provide 40 points then 50 then 60 for entry level money, it helps them.
You can say a lot about some of Julien Brisebois' moves, but this guy has a set on him. Never afraid to make aggressive trades.
The only reason I’m optimistic is acquiring Geekie and more room to potentially sign Stamkos
@@GWh135 Friedman reporting Tampa is after Guentzel
@@justjohnny420 As long as we don’t waste a 10x6 contract on him
@@GWh135 Yeah honestly I'd rather have Turbo than him. We have enough firepower on that top line, we need a complimentary player.
@@Wayf4rer Agreed. If we re-signed Stamkos and Duclair, and added Teuvo I think we’d be set.
I'm actually giving it to both : Tampa needs some rejuvenation if they want to stay a contending team and while Sergachev is still on the younger side, they got 2 even younger guys and, as you said, they freed some cap space to either keep Stamkos or sign younger UFAs; and Utah shows they're serious about pushing for a playoff spot by getting arguably their #1 D-man
Serge can be really good with an actual good stay at home partner. He was always playing weird minutes in Tampa or playing with Cernak, who is notorious for dragging down anyone not named Ryan Mcdonagh. I think with a good top pairing RHD partner and PP time, Sergachev can show his quality.
@@Wayf4rer it feels like the kind trade, the ones involving a player with a lot of potential on a stacked team, where everybody wins : that player gets to finally come out of the shadow of the better players from his former team, be the top guy and reach his true potential; the team acquiring him potentially gets a franchise player and can build up around him; and the team letting him go can expect a good package in return
Geekie should not be overlooked in this trade. Two years from now be could be a top scorer.
I'm excited by how aggressive Utah has seemed so far. I love the idea of them making a splash their first year as a new franchise.
Some great moves being made today for the Utah Hockey Club.
Disagree
@@synerhi I agree, Utah made 2 good trades to bring in solid defensive players, one of which good possibly be the teams #1 on the blue line. At least they're making moves and trying to win.
Which is something they would not have done if they were still in Arizona with Meruelo as the owner.
The McDonagh trade really put Sergy expendable, but I love Moser he can fit in our top 4 pairing and is gonna be cheap, while Geekie slides in to be our #1 prospect
So I know that the lightning needed a lot of cap space but Serg going down last year helped the lightning see what they had in some young defenseman that they brought up. This helped them make this decision to make this trade to get rid of Serg.
Yeah, plus hus defense was not great even when healthy. Sergachev is a great offensive defenseman, but his defense is lacking
@@anthonywatson6070 In his career Sergachev was a + in the +/- category every year but last year. He takes chances but his overall play is good. And he is only 26 heading into his prime.
They are this week getting rid of Kucherov. Just saying. Getting rid of two players Kucherov enjoyed playing with was not a smart move. Business is business and all that, but I can now see Kucherov in a diffrent jersey.
Good move for both teams
I like this trade for Moser. I think he can grow in Tampa and be a key part of the lineup.
Geekie is going to be a fantastic player too
Tampa’s showing that hockey is business first of all… and when the business is done properly then people are happy… 🤷🏻♂️
As a Bolts fan let me tell you Utah fans, you’re getting a great player. He will aggravate you sometimes, but he will make you jump off your seat screaming like nobody else. He’s a hype player and a loud player, the type of guy you can count on to change the momentum of a game. It doesn’t matter if it’s a regular season game or the cup clincher Serg always goes out there ready to bring the heat.
As for my personal thoughts, It’s painful to lose a guy like Sergachev who has been such a fan favorite player. However it frees up much needed space and I LOVE the new additions. As well Sergachev was a Bolts for two reasons, one was because we thought he’d be the next Hedman and he hasn’t developed into that in our time here, he may in a bigger role in Utah but it wasn’t gonna happen for us. Otherwise our main reason for having him was for his playoff performances, and given how poorly our last two runs have been it’s smart to shake things up(looking at you Toronto).
Moser completes a new left wing of Hedman, McDonagh, and Moser which could be scary(though now I kinda hope JBB doesn’t hold back on the defensive rebuild and trades Cernak has well). And Geeki, man we need this kid to turn into a star.
Imagine if in five years Geeki is a 40/50+ goal scorer with Point still in his prime and Kuch still being a great passer. That gives me goosebumps man. As well it might be good for when Stamkos is gone and we need the extra production, whether that be by retirement in four~five years or this year if he does indeed leave. Also I really wanna tell GEEK when he scores a goal.
Regardless, Thank you Mikhail Sergachev for being one of the best Bolts ever.
TB won this easily! Cap space is more important than the rest of the trade and they got a lot for a player that barely played for them last year and is signed for a very long time at a lot of $ that can be used better elsewhere.
I was livid at first, but it’s just because Sergachev was one of my favorite players on the team. Honestly I think we got a great return for not having to retain any salary
As a Tampa resident and Lightning fan. We'll miss ya Serg. But I trust in the people behind the scenes. That this is a thing we needed to do and will benefit us in the long-run.
Man that was a fantastic first impression for Utah. I was shocked!!
That said, Tampa Bay did pretty well with the return. Connor Geekie and JJ Moser are going to be studs!
Also freed up a much needed 8.5 million, and netted a second that we traded for Mac. Absolutely a great trade for us, imo. Utah gets a star on the right side of 30 for their blue line. Win win for both teams.
@@mannyoliveira776 As far as I know, he broke his leg(tibia and fibula). Prognosis for that is full recovery. He actually did come back from it. Not a knee injury.
This looks fine for both teams, Tampa needs Cap space, Utah needs talent
I’m honestly smelling some Avs 1996 type of bullshit with this team at this point. Probably not the same degree of success, that ‘95 Nordiques team was seen as being pretty damn close to contending for SC, but I could see Utah going to round 2 of the playoffs or something along those lines.
what i appreciate about tampa is that they are not afraid to admit mistakes and take corrective actions, unlike some other teams 😂
Lol poor Pittsburgh
I am beyond upset Tampa now has geekie..... I'm still upset my team didn't draft and now he comes to my division. At least I'll get to see his awesome career against my team more often now
Sorry sergy. Had to be done. Fresh start in Utah
This is the week the Tampa Bay Lightning destroyed their relationship with their best player. If I was a GM I'd be calling Kucherov's agents to ask if he is intrested in playing for a winning team.
Exactly. "Gee, how's it going to go when I turn 34?"
Utah fans will love Sergy. Sad to see him go. I wonder if he could end up being their captain 😮
This has been a more entertaining draft than I've seen in a long-ass time.
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The best thing Utah could have done this off-season was bring in a top line elite defender, and this is exactly that. I’m beyond excited by this trade.
Would have loved to see BOTH Moser and Geekie grow, and also, I don’t see either of those guys cracking top lines, while Mikhail today is a top line guy with an agreeable long-term deal in place. I love it.
He isn't elite, a slight upgrade over Moser's current play while Moser has more upside.
Geekie could easily become a solid +20g/+60pt forward especially if he was playing with Cooley and Guenther.
Serg ain't playing much D
Sad to see Sergy go but great deal for the Bolts in their current situation. After the trade to bring back Mac it made him expendable especially at that salary and term.
Frees up enough cap space to resign Stammer and go after a big contract - maybe Guentzel?
I love sergy, but i think its smart to move him now. Personally think the ckntract ages poorly.
What the heck? I traded for Sergachev as relocated the Utah team like a month ago on a NHL 24 franchise mode.
Utah definitely took the cake although they still got to know us Arizona fans are still rumbling and we want to pound Utah now that we had to give up our professional hockey team and that we won’t see a hockey team come back here to Arizona
That magnet looks really cool. It would look even more cool on a jersey as well.
Wow what a haul by Tampa
They stole serg from Montreal, now free up 8.5m and get return to rebuild on the fly
as a lightning fan that absolutely despises montreal I was so happy with the sergy trade back then lmao
not as happy this time, but I can still watch him in Utah so I guess it works out
I will miss seeing Geekie’s giant stick knobs. Larger diameter even than any goalie I’ve ever seen. Bigger than baseball bat knobs. Fascinating.
As a default Utah fan for now, I think Tampa wins this trade.
I think Moser is a really good player and will be affordable if they can get him signed to some term length. Geekie has a tiny sample size in pro hockey but until proven otherwise, he’s still a very high prospect. Plus two picks.
I am not saying Sergachev has a terrible contract, but let’s face it, it *is* one of those contracts where, in the last year or two, you might find yourself in a position to have to fork over even more picks to a rebuilding team to get rid of it as we’ve already seen a lot of this offseason.
I think Utah had a strong, relatively young, relatively balanced defensive core, and they just blew it up for the sake of a “#1 defenseman”. I get it but if you can get 6 young guys and everyone is good enough to be a second pair guy, all vying to earn #1 minutes, to me that’s better than a “number one” and a vulnerable third pair. With very few exceptions.
Great move for both sides. Tampa gets cap space they needed and Utah gets a top 4 D.
wow didn't expect that 🤯
First big piece of the back to back cups is gone, sad :-( Miss you Serge!
I am a HUGE JJ Moser fan! I love his defensive game and he has upside for some goals! Love the deal for Utah. Can't wait to see how this next season plays out! Love me some Keller and can't wait to see how the team performs
WTF?! This is wild!
Yzerman couldn't get this deal done?
Not many other teams can match the return. 20 yo solid prospect and a good cost controlled young rfa dman + picks. Armstrong's asset collecting is paying off.
Tampa might have preferred trading out of the division, rather than to a direct division rival.
@jonathangarmuth8975 neither did 30 other teams. So what?
Damn does it seem like Tampa did good. Utah gets a great dman to start the franchise but that return seems pretty sweet.
You normally have to pay to dump a contract of that size, the fact they get 4 things in return to dump the contract is honestly amazing.
Helps when they don't just give out no movement clauses either.
You’d only pay to “dump a contract” if it’s a bad contract. Thats not the case. Sergy is still getting better and will look like a steal in his final years on that contract.
It's not a dump. He is one of the better defensemen in the NHL
@@jeffhembd9471 Not recently. When McDonagh left, Sergachev was really just average.
If only Serg could play defense. Getting rid of that contract was huge, the rest of the league will see when he's not playing with Hedman and in front of Vasy.
Me patiently waiting for the hockey guy to talk about this all day
im gonna miss sergey so much man 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
As a tampa fan . Once again I believe tampa is retooling
For sure. They need youth, picks and cap space. This really hits all the marks. The Jeannot trade checked 2 boxes. If they can get picks for Cernak and Sheary that would be excellent. They could really go out and retool this year and get back a lot of what was traded away to get the cups.
Glad it’s a re-tool and not a 15 year rebuild
@@GWh135 Careful what you wish for. The habs were "re tooling" uselesslyfor 30 years before they finally committed to a full rebuild.
@@steve8803 Their re-tooling consisted of signing/ trading for washed up players in their 30s with a subpar core, at least this move indicates Tampa is trying to get a new group of young players that can make an impact when the current core is gone
Good to see Utah/Arizona finally have an owner who isn’t afraid to spend.
I watched geekie in the whl kid is good real good.
Utah Mammoth > Yeti
It would stand out as a unique mascot. The Avalanche has had a yeti foot on their jetseys.
@@ThomB1031All the more reason to choose another mascot, Yeti is just strange
@@rhyta5042 I now see my comment wasn't clear on that. Yes, Mammoths would be a better mascot.
@@ThomB1031 I could live with that over Yeti but I think Outlaws is my choice
I'd love Utah Rock, or maybe Utah Nasia.
Is it possible tampa keeps stammer and gets guentzel!? Or is that to far fetched?
Can't really judge this even as a "hot take" before we know what Tampa does with all the cap space. We'll know on the 1st, I guess.
I think this is just a good hockey trade. No real winner or loser, but I am surprised Geekie was included since he fits the M.O. of big players in the Utah organization. The price was fair and Utah got the best player. To get a #1 D-man via trade is difficult so kudos to both GM's.
good trade for both teams. but as soon as utah drafted beaudoin i knew geekie was gonna be traded soon after. both are pretty much the same player: big power forward with sandpaper type game
I want that Utah logo on a sweater!
Both teams won the trade. It was a nice fit for each teams respective needs.
Solid trade for both teams, Utah, if he stays healthy!
I’ve never been more sad yet optimistic at the same time. Sergachev was such a special guy and is one of my favorite players ever. But acquiring Geekie and stocking up on draft picks is exactly what we’ve been needing. Tough day but this is one of the few JBB trades that actually makes sense.
Guentzel? Stammer? Both? 🤔
Possible
Stamkos, Guentzel and a future star D-man would be perfect for Tampa.
You should put up a picture of a Yeti cup at some point.
The stickers that come with the cups 😂
This does bring up a good question though. If the team is called Yeti, will they be allowed to win the Stanley Cup? Yeti and Stanley cup are competitors.
@@Wlightning25 this is honestly hilarious
@@Wlightning25Actually it is funny because this year Yeti is the NHL official drinkware. Hope Utah doesn't become Yeti, it's such a lame name
Both get a win on the trade.
I like it for Tampa
Didn’t realize Sergy had a no trade clause that kicks in on July 1st so even smarter move by JBB to get out of that contract before it became burdensome in future seasons
Heard maple leafs got tanev from dallas.
Utah getting saucy
This hurts. I was a big Sergy homer even when the rest of the fanbase wasn't. He did a lot for this team. He at least gets to be a true #1 D that isn't over shadowed by heddy.
Bolt fan here. In retrospect...after letting Stammer go...JBB has done a fine job. A LOT of people here in Tampa are KILLING him for the Stammer fiasco BUT...Sergy wasn't the best defensive defenseman. We got younger (Moser). We got younger with a better 5v5 player (Guentzel). We got younger with a guy that'll make our talent pool so much deeper (Geekie). The Bolts needed to get younger and free up cap space. JBB did that without compromising the quality of the NHL team. I hate that Stammer won't finish his career here but he'll go into the HoF as a Bolt and his number will be retired here. Hell...Gretzky didn't finish his career in EDM either. It's a business. JBB made a great BUSINESS move.
They don't talk about how Gretzky left the Oilers. Ever. At all. It's like, not a thing, in Edmonton. At all. Nobody resents Pocklington. At all.
Everybody accepted it because was BUSINESS and it was great for all.
Lizard trolls everywhere.
Honestly i think this is the best offer the Bolts could get for Mikhail, especially since we didnt have to retain a cent of his salary. That was a overpay at the time he was signed, so getting solid players in return is just a bonus
The Superbplan is in route 😈
I really don’t like Utah trading away Geekie…
Just throwing that in too. Last year they drafted two Russians in the first. Having Sergachev will also help with that when they come over. And Simashev will absolutely be in need of some tutoring from a NHL vet like Sergachev.
tampa mentioned go bolts
I give it to Utah because Sergeichev is 26 and about to enter good peek.
History vid soon?
This trade is a major win win.
If geekie can become a solid player and moser as well Jim think it could look not to bad for Tampa
Utah just robbed us of having the 'Geeks and the Cools' line.
Shocker, Sergachev thought he will play with his boys Kuch and Vasy the whole career, bought a home and everything, even came back from this awful injury just a for couple of games, JBB is ruthless. He was overpaid by 1-1.5 mil, but still.
Honestly today and the second half of yesterday I really didn't pay attention because I didn't expect the Penguins to do much of anything for the time being. I sure hope I'm wrong
You think Ryan Smith is giving Bill Armstrong the green light then?
Moser is still getting better while Sergachev is a slight upgrade over the current play of Moser. Getting Geekie on top of that, who has crazy upside, with a pick is ridiculous. Tampa robbed Utah.
Think of the line combos and interchangeability of this young forward core.
Keller, Schmaltz, Maccelli, Cooley, Crouse, Guenther, But, Doan, and Geekie.
This is the start of some bad moves over the next few years for Utah.
Another win for Tampa Bay
Serg and Cernak I still feel didnt deserve those big contracts everyone calls me crazy but honestly this was the right choice it should have been one or the other. Hopefully this helps get stamkos and Hedman resigned. Stamkos leaving would honestly cripple the spirit of the Lightning as he is one the biggest reasons why we have gotten to the finals 4 times in the last 10 years
Tampa did well here.
Not even close an absolute win for Tampa Bay. Save 9 million a year get a young defense man that is just as good as sergachev Probably actually better defensively. On top of that getting an Amazing offensive prospect that is 6 foot 4 and had 90 points in 50 games. Plus 2 draft picks. We did real good, Miguel sergachev is worth about 6 million a year tops.
2bc fans know about the yetis
Wow…Tampa must have someone there to replace Sergachev or someone in mind. That Drouin trade turned out well for Tampa, this seems…odd. Must be for the savings.
McDonagh is the temporary replacement while Tampa finds their future stud on the blue line. By the time Tampa becomes one of the top teams in the league again, Sergachev will be too old by that point
Tampa wins easily in my opinion. I think Sergachev is a good player. But I also think he's one of, if not the most overrated defenseman in the entire NHL, especially at his contract. Moser is a solid young guy who is getting better, and will probably give them just fine play, plus getting a strong young forward prospect which they desperately need, it's just a huge W for Tampa
Sergachev is definitely not overrated but he does struggle with turnovers on occasion, but it makes perfect sense to move him out. He eats away cap space when we could be injecting youth whilst also keeping Stamkos. This is a good trade for both teams
I mean, Sergachev is only 26. Would’ve thought he was part of future
Trading Conor Geekie was a dumb move. It’s like the Blues trading Tage Thompson
Utah
As a Yotes fan who is now an Utah fan, I like this trade, need to actually get players who make a difference. We all saw how cheap the Coyotes owner was
I feel like Stammer is going to Detroit
He isnt going anywhere lol
@@JSawmill63 all the big sports networks are saying he's going to free agency
This trade makes it 10x more likely he stays in Tampa.
Why would ANYONE go to Detroit?
The Tampa Bay Lightning have been dismantled. No more cups for them.
Says the Blackhawks fan 😂 this actually makes it more likely that Tampa stays highly competitive for a long time.
@@GWh135 Chicago made Stamko’s cry. I don’t ever remember Tampa doing that to Kane. 😏
@@blackhawks9763 Honestly I forgot the Blackhawks existed until I saw your comment lol
This and likely losing Stammer..
Tampa don't want to be contenders I see.
So fast I’m here
Tampa attempting a retoolit would appear... or are they going full rebuild before they need to?
Lightning boutta get stamkos and guentzel aren’t they
@@boppityboopy114 could they actually afford both???
They may keep Stsmkos, if he isn't beyond pissed for being low balled. Guentzel won't end up on the Bolts. They can't clear enough space for him, witjput ravaging team, plus he's rumored to Canucks or Pikers, if my 'Canes can't pull out signing him.
I don't like to move as a Tampa fan. I don't think they got ripped off but Hedman is in the back third of his career and sergev is right in the beginning of his prime. I get there and in the win now mode but I feel like the moves kind of short-sighted
i think stamkos will wind up in utah
I think the Stamkos sitch may take a bit of time to shake out, depending where other guys sign. If Guentzel leaves Carolina, he'd be on their radar, as well as half the other teams. He can pretty much name his pricem
Sergachev was so-so before his injury this past season. Average at best to be brutally honest. Not worth the cap hit at all and this will free up much needed cap space.
Thank god jeannot is gone
Yeah don't understand that pick up last year
I agree. What a bust
@@truffled_one rooting for him to make some noise in LA but glad we arent going into another season gambling on him
@@JSawmill63 I think there’s potential with him. Unfortunately he was a total bust in Tampa
@@truffled_one truth. A complete non factor
Damn crazy trade
Holy shit
wtf o_O;;;