There are a handful of slot controlled airports in the US. There is an issue of slot squatting were an airline will run small flights just to maintain usage of a slot. I wish the system was more like a lease were the airline buys the rights to the slot for a period of 5 years. Then at 5 years the slot would released and an auction would be held. This would make it easier for new entrants to gain access to these airports over time.
LHR doesn't follow that IATA slot system. LHR slots are owned by the airlines, not allocated via the slot process. That's why airlines are able to sell them to each other. The airport is able to fine airlines who don't use their slot times on a regular basis, which then encourages that airline to sell the slots they no longer use. Qantas owns 4 slot pairs at London, they are currently only using 2, with the others leased to BA. At the slot controlled airports that follow the IATA process, unused slots can be stripped from the airline not using them.
if i had 1 billion dollars for every time the word “slot” was mentioned by the voiceover, the text on the video, the title or the thumbnail, i would have the money to live the rest of my life
Hong Kong International Airport was building a new runway and terminal just as COVID hit. I went spotting in 2021 and counted only about 10 arrivals per hour, pax and freight combined. Restrictions are slowly easing now but it will be quite some time before it gets "super congested" again. Before the pandemic, HKG was plagued with insufficient gates and runways. It was not uncommon to see rows of landed aircraft lining on the tarmac to wait for a gate during thunderstorms, when ground agents were required to stop working. Queuing for take-off might also take about half an hour.
TLDR, Level 2 congestion is only dealt with coordinated _schedules,_ not "slot facilitation." 0:50 I couldn't find a source for the names which don't appear to be defined in the WASG document and seem to have just been suggested by SF. But the names they gave _don't even make sense_ and worse, are even contrary to the document. The document only defines the levels of congestion in each tier ("1.4 What Are The Conditions For Airport Coordination?" on pdf page 13 of edition 2). Slots are only used at Level 3, as the script does correctly say. But to call Level 2 congestion "slot facilitated" is just plain wrong -- 1.7.1b quite clearly states that " *No slots are allocated at a Level 2 airport* " and that Level 2 congestion is dealt with by " *schedule* facilitation" - not slots. In the preface (pdf page 4) Level 2 strategies are also called "planned operations". So the name given to Level 2 is wrong. Coordination is used for strategies used with both Level 2 and Level 3 congestion though, as noted in the Preface. So charitably, I can only assume that the researcher got mixed up and "Level 2 - coordinated"/"Level 3 - slot-facilitated [coordination]" would be somewhat appropriate. But this is just a sloppy and confusing error that should have been picked up during the production process.
I was curious to know what happens when slots are “lost” because of an event. By example the Queens funeral or recently, all the international heads if state arriving in NY yo attend the UN.
As an airline You get force majeure granted for this specific date and flightnumber so this CNL/Loss does not count negatively to your historic fulfilment rate (e.g. 80/20 rule)
You really didn't tell much. how about when an airline only lands one plane a day , how does that work, and lets say it's time is at 8:00pm, but it's 4 hrs late??
I heard some extreme examples, but was there a general ball park average slot cost mentioned somewhere? The title says how much slots are worth, but I am not sure I got the answer for a typical slot. Great videos by the channel. Sometimes however, bug facts are stated very briefly without much emphasis, and one can easily miss a key point. I hope you slow ot down a little and pause to draw attention to critical facts. I love the channel though!
Only busy airports have a slot system. Airports that aren't close to capacity don't require them with any timing conflicts managed by the airport and ATC. Once an airport starts getting close to capacity, they start to implement a slot system, even if it is only for peak times.
I'm confused... Both in arrival and departure there are no more "extra" people who wait unless you are on their flight. Why couldn't this be just assigned to you as you land etc? It seems rather money oriented. Why not just classify the airlines and you pay for the use. I know this gets tricky for those extremes like largest or smallest airlines but I'm pretty sure things can be worked out. Hopefully for better competition in the airlines which hopefully again transfer down to the customer. But again this seems like there is a reason for this multiple tier list. Not just because there are multiple countries.
Sell all slots. Pick up cheapest slots. Avoid super congested airports. Use airports with slot facilitated facilities to go slow go fast go anyhow save fuel flying mode for every flight. Niche of flag carrier is expensive. Niche of full fare is funny. Niche of budget is cheap. Parting difference for longer distances.
Slots is a disgusting Al Jolson style of business. Paying for make believe. Who paid for most of these airports, anyway? Do we really blame the IATA ???
take a shot for every "Slot" mentioned.
Me : dies
Don't do this, you will die 🍷🍷
30 shots in 270 seconds. Good luck!!
Just tell us you're suicidal, there's 988 for that now
I was just about to share a link to mates for this before I saw your comment!! 🤣🤣
1:30 That's kind of neat! If you look closely at the time lapse, you can see the A340 settling on its landing gear as cargo and pax are loaded.
There are a handful of slot controlled airports in the US. There is an issue of slot squatting were an airline will run small flights just to maintain usage of a slot. I wish the system was more like a lease were the airline buys the rights to the slot for a period of 5 years. Then at 5 years the slot would released and an auction would be held. This would make it easier for new entrants to gain access to these airports over time.
LHR doesn't follow that IATA slot system. LHR slots are owned by the airlines, not allocated via the slot process. That's why airlines are able to sell them to each other. The airport is able to fine airlines who don't use their slot times on a regular basis, which then encourages that airline to sell the slots they no longer use.
Qantas owns 4 slot pairs at London, they are currently only using 2, with the others leased to BA.
At the slot controlled airports that follow the IATA process, unused slots can be stripped from the airline not using them.
If I had $1 for every time the word “slot” was mentioned by the voiceover, the text on the video, the title or the thumbnail, I would have $36.
if i had 1 billion dollars for every time the word “slot” was mentioned by the voiceover, the text on the video, the title or the thumbnail, i would have the money to live the rest of my life
Okay but let's all just take a moment to acknowledge how beautiful this view is at 3:12 and 3:53
Pure beauty
Hong Kong International Airport was building a new runway and terminal just as COVID hit. I went spotting in 2021 and counted only about 10 arrivals per hour, pax and freight combined. Restrictions are slowly easing now but it will be quite some time before it gets "super congested" again.
Before the pandemic, HKG was plagued with insufficient gates and runways. It was not uncommon to see rows of landed aircraft lining on the tarmac to wait for a gate during thunderstorms, when ground agents were required to stop working. Queuing for take-off might also take about half an hour.
TLDR, Level 2 congestion is only dealt with coordinated _schedules,_ not "slot facilitation."
0:50 I couldn't find a source for the names which don't appear to be defined in the WASG document and seem to have just been suggested by SF. But the names they gave _don't even make sense_ and worse, are even contrary to the document. The document only defines the levels of congestion in each tier ("1.4 What Are The Conditions For Airport Coordination?" on pdf page 13 of edition 2).
Slots are only used at Level 3, as the script does correctly say. But to call Level 2 congestion "slot facilitated" is just plain wrong -- 1.7.1b quite clearly states that " *No slots are allocated at a Level 2 airport* " and that Level 2 congestion is dealt with by " *schedule* facilitation" - not slots. In the preface (pdf page 4) Level 2 strategies are also called "planned operations". So the name given to Level 2 is wrong.
Coordination is used for strategies used with both Level 2 and Level 3 congestion though, as noted in the Preface. So charitably, I can only assume that the researcher got mixed up and "Level 2 - coordinated"/"Level 3 - slot-facilitated [coordination]" would be somewhat appropriate. But this is just a sloppy and confusing error that should have been picked up during the production process.
Wait. I still don’t know the allocations process. Is it an auction basically?
this channel is underrated. So much information about aircraft, airlines etc on the simple flying channel and new website. Continue the good work
"Slot" word count in the video: 30 times
Is this the same concept as a certain airline having a set amount gates at the airport?
I was curious to know what happens when slots are “lost” because of an event. By example the Queens funeral or recently, all the international heads if state arriving in NY yo attend the UN.
As an airline You get force majeure granted for this specific date and flightnumber so this CNL/Loss does not count negatively to your historic fulfilment rate (e.g. 80/20 rule)
Want to ask if this slots has special amenities? Wait how about planes that park in the tarmac?
You really didn't tell much. how about when an airline only lands one plane a day , how does that work, and lets say it's time is at 8:00pm, but it's 4 hrs late??
The slot is paid for , it doesn't lose it.
I heard some extreme examples, but was there a general ball park average slot cost mentioned somewhere? The title says how much slots are worth, but I am not sure I got the answer for a typical slot. Great videos by the channel. Sometimes however, bug facts are stated very briefly without much emphasis, and one can easily miss a key point. I hope you slow ot down a little and pause to draw attention to critical facts. I love the channel though!
I've got a question. Do all airports have slots?
Only busy airports have a slot system. Airports that aren't close to capacity don't require them with any timing conflicts managed by the airport and ATC.
Once an airport starts getting close to capacity, they start to implement a slot system, even if it is only for peak times.
Thanks for the insight
I counted "slot" used 30 separate times
How does the pilot find the way to
the gate when landing the plane?
using acars ( text instructions and lights leading to the correct way also taxi lines leading to each gate and direction from ground control tower
There is also another word for slot and it is stand.
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I'm confused... Both in arrival and departure there are no more "extra" people who wait unless you are on their flight.
Why couldn't this be just assigned to you as you land etc? It seems rather money oriented. Why not just classify the airlines and you pay for the use.
I know this gets tricky for those extremes like largest or smallest airlines but I'm pretty sure things can be worked out. Hopefully for better competition in the airlines which hopefully again transfer down to the customer.
But again this seems like there is a reason for this multiple tier list. Not just because there are multiple countries.
Why can't planes just park at sny gate or any gate thT is available
total chaos
You can you the word "spot" instead, that would be fine.
💰 💰 💰 as usual. It could work without it for sure.
slot is colloquial 😮
I think I should become a 'slot' investor as a career.
I'd pay a lot for a good slot.
Which one?
I Don't think I hurt a word but slot
People are into some funny things on this earth.
I apologise for using the word URANUS when describing this planet …
money talks: no money, no slot. very simple
How about permit instead of slot?
Loud Background music make it unwatchable.
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Sell all slots. Pick up cheapest slots. Avoid super congested airports. Use airports with slot facilitated facilities to go slow go fast go anyhow save fuel flying mode for every flight. Niche of flag carrier is expensive. Niche of full fare is funny. Niche of budget is cheap. Parting difference for longer distances.
Slots is a disgusting Al Jolson style of business. Paying for make believe. Who paid for most of these airports, anyway? Do we really blame the IATA ???
Complicated process
PWESTO in Filipino Words your Saying SLOT..you could say it also Space parking for Airplane in a Airport...
it's all based on demand and economics ;)
You mean sloth?
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He said “slots”