Ataman’s Tactics In The Final Impressed Even Giannis

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • Ergin Ataman fulfilled his promise: Panathinaikos Athens are EuroLeague champions once again. But how exactly did they do it? In this video, BasketNews' Augustas Suliauskas breaks down the iconic final between PAO and Real Madrid & shows how the Turkish coach led his newly-built team to a title in their first year together.
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  • @BasketNews_com
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  • @konstantinaregkoukou9620
    @konstantinaregkoukou9620 4 місяці тому +274

    Luca vildoza is definitely worthy of a mention as his defense on facundo campazzo was crucial. Also he hit a big three and we should also keep in mind that he had not played a single minute in the final four until that time

    • @ΧρήστοςΤούντας-κ1ε
      @ΧρήστοςΤούντας-κ1ε 4 місяці тому +11

      He showed that he got heart. Ataman was ready for this kind of match up.

    • @panathasg13
      @panathasg13 4 місяці тому +14

      You are correct.
      Same with Kalaitzakis who was like a Leech in defense

    • @Sanoi737
      @Sanoi737 4 місяці тому +10

      Ataman had publicly criticized vildosa for his performance in an unimportant greek basket league game a while ago saying he couldn't expect to get any euroleague minutes playing like this and a lot of people were critical of Ataman for exposing his player. However now it just proves how masterful Ergin is in motivating and keeping his players hungry for getting the right performance at the right time. This is also true for Sloukas who had a slump and his confidence was low while making lots of crucial turnovers at some point during the season but Ataman never criticized him and really nurtured his confidence just to get the best of him at the best time possible.

    • @demetriskkolis2719
      @demetriskkolis2719 4 місяці тому +1

      Very very true 👌🏻

  • @ramo9547
    @ramo9547 3 місяці тому +32

    As a Turk, love my Greek brothers and sisters. Proud to see the partnership of a Turkish coach and Greek team resulting in something amazing. This shows what we can achieve if we unite and work together. Happy to see the relationship of both amazing counties getting better and better. Much love and respect to Greece and Panathinaikos 👏🏼😎

    • @SelcukChasan-y4h
      @SelcukChasan-y4h Місяць тому

      That's nice to hear for someone who carries both countries in his blood and heart Greeks and Turks are the best people in the world
      grtz from Piraeus brother 🇬🇷🇹🇷

  • @ToxicL9emoN
    @ToxicL9emoN 4 місяці тому +226

    What coach Ataman did was amazing. He created a totally new team from zero and made it from 17th place last year to champion. The whole euroleague basketball univers is speechless. If he did this in his first season, i can't imagine what he will do in the next with even better players as I've heard. I believe in the repeat.

    • @aggelos7475
      @aggelos7475 4 місяці тому +18

      We have a sample from his year in Efes where he rebuilt the entire team and took them to the final from the bottom and in the next season they were in first position looking completely unstoppable until the season was interrupted due to covid.

    • @nikola3110
      @nikola3110 4 місяці тому +2

      Even mentioning 17th place and last season does not make sense, literally 90% of team is different,by different i mean better

    • @truthhearer6323
      @truthhearer6323 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@@nikola3110That's painfully simple thinking, come back when you know basketball

    • @nikola3110
      @nikola3110 4 місяці тому +2

      @@truthhearer6323 Why?

    • @Antaquelas
      @Antaquelas 4 місяці тому

      @@nikola3110prison mike

  • @yunussaglam1958
    @yunussaglam1958 4 місяці тому +136

    This is a good example of how well the Turks and Greeks can achieve when they work together
    Congratulations 🎉

    • @Elvetos
      @Elvetos 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep, they dominated the whole world pretty much

    • @kevindevlieger300
      @kevindevlieger300 4 місяці тому

      @@Elvetos *mediteranean

    • @Pro13Sab
      @Pro13Sab 4 місяці тому +8

      Unfortunately that didn't work with Fatih Terim

    • @EmreIskenderoglu
      @EmreIskenderoglu 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Pro13Sabterim is old.

    • @M.Đ-z4u
      @M.Đ-z4u 3 місяці тому

      BS

  • @harderway8568
    @harderway8568 4 місяці тому +46

    Yes, probably the best coached basketball game I've ever seen. Pao was struggling early, because Madrid were getting some really soft calls and didn't know how to adapt. Then Ataman changed the defense and Lessort was getting all the balls, which turned out to be massive. Then when Sloukas got red hot others just followed. All the players contributed and it was a team game masterclass.

    • @spreewind
      @spreewind 4 місяці тому +5

      I absolutly agree. Masterpiece of couching and teamplay.

  • @steliosioannou2800
    @steliosioannou2800 4 місяці тому +69

    Best euroleague final game ever !! Well done Panathinaikos!! 🎉🎉🎉GREEKS ARE BACK!!!

    • @RecepKaya-yb7ns
      @RecepKaya-yb7ns 4 місяці тому +3

      Tesekkurler Ergın Ataman

    • @athenavergo87
      @athenavergo87 4 місяці тому +2

      Στέλιο εσύ; 😅

    • @steliosioannou2800
      @steliosioannou2800 4 місяці тому

      @@athenavergo87 Ναι εγώ!! Το vergo87..? Πέτσα εσύ..?

    • @Fadeyes98
      @Fadeyes98 4 місяці тому +1

      Congratulations from oly fan. For me best final is 2012, sure u understand my reasoning 😊

  • @LeonidasChronis
    @LeonidasChronis 4 місяці тому +60

    Vildoza should be mentioned. He did a great job on campazzo. Jerian grant is a key player for pao and he should be named defensive player of euroleague

    • @greekveteran2715
      @greekveteran2715 4 місяці тому +8

      Ataman: Best Coach of the Year. Lessort: Best Center of the year (all the points the Centers of the final 4 scored, added together, are equal to the points Lessort socored byhimself!not to mention his defence and that he did alone without a 2nd Center). Jerian Grant: Defender of the Year. Kedric Nunn: Best scorer in Europe.... Kostas Sloukaaas! Best leader in Europe Maybe I miss other players, that deserve a "best" spot.

    • @Pro13Sab
      @Pro13Sab 4 місяці тому +5

      @@greekveteran2715 Juancho the best defensive power forward, Kalaitzakis the best hustler, Grigonis the best spot shoter(along with Alec Peters), Mitoglou and Papapetrou great comeback stories, coach Serelis the best assistant coach and Sani Becirovic the best gm for recruiting all this players

    • @greekveteran2715
      @greekveteran2715 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Pro13Sab Spot on man!! You added everything I missed!

  • @utkuaslann
    @utkuaslann 4 місяці тому +61

    Ergin ataman is the best coach

  • @codingstyle9480
    @codingstyle9480 4 місяці тому +140

    I do not care who has won other than Real Madrid. Nothing makes me happier than seeing Dirty Campazzo and Co get beaten by a so called underdog team. Congrats to Sloukas though.

    • @enzio1388
      @enzio1388 3 місяці тому +1

      How s an underdog tho? 2nd seed on regular season for panathinaikos

    • @codingstyle9480
      @codingstyle9480 3 місяці тому

      @@enzio1388 Exactly. Who was number one seed?. Real. So, Second seed is underdog in comparison with number one seed. :))

    • @gonencgocmengil
      @gonencgocmengil 3 місяці тому +5

      Very happy to see dirty players such as Llull, yabusele, fernandez did not win the cup, thank god

    • @vaggelismouss7986
      @vaggelismouss7986 Місяць тому

      we wiil get and the eight star this year the king is back tell the queen he is in charge now

  • @DoctorGravity642
    @DoctorGravity642 4 місяці тому +28

    I honestly believe the soul of this Panathinaikos is Jerian Grant.

  • @GreenMarkoulis13
    @GreenMarkoulis13 4 місяці тому +58

    Great analysis, would love more videos like this!

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 4 місяці тому +10

      Thanks! We have 1 breakdown like
      this every week. You can check the past ones under the Breakdowns playlist. I made one about Sloukas joining PAO last summer, too

  • @sorma82
    @sorma82 4 місяці тому +83

    I agree. pao was not able to attack on zone defense. Sloukas creativity brought the game.

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 4 місяці тому +28

      That shot was pure iso skill and confidence without any set plays. Dagger

    • @shortyyys
      @shortyyys 4 місяці тому +25

      That 3pointer was what seperates very good players from great players.

    • @hhspector3006
      @hhspector3006 4 місяці тому +12

      legend

    • @NickHaVAnaClub
      @NickHaVAnaClub 4 місяці тому +10

      Yeap, it's times like these you want those players to make the difference.

    • @MrGkarnarn
      @MrGkarnarn 4 місяці тому +15

      My coach in basketball (late 70's early 80's ) used to say: The zone be punished from far and breaks by near. [I hope my english is good to explain that ]

  • @MrCgrezer
    @MrCgrezer 4 місяці тому +16

    the analysis was great. You could talk about Vildoza and Hernangomez. They were important in the comeback for Pao. Real lost the game because they couldn't adapt to Pao's defense.
    Like always, it's better to make shots in the end of the game than in the start. They won that way with OLY but they couldn't with PAO bcs their defense was weak.

  • @Artforall100
    @Artforall100 3 місяці тому +4

    Ergin Ataman is the best coach at the moment. Euroleaugue should of chosen him as a best coach of the year.

  • @didxo
    @didxo 4 місяці тому +33

    What about vildoza against campazo?same fast first step..he didn't even play in the semifinal

  • @tanergozelce191
    @tanergozelce191 3 місяці тому +1

    Super Team and Coach.Respect Panathinaikos👍

  • @bakuvian
    @bakuvian 4 місяці тому +5

    Great commentary, man. The difference was that Pao and Ataman never pushed the panic button in Quarters 1 and 2. But Real panicked in the 4th quarter. They never capitalized during the minutes when Lessort or Nunn were not playing. Do you have the commentary for Pao v Fener game?

  • @Bluecoala77
    @Bluecoala77 4 місяці тому +18

    Great analysis , great basketball channel! Grant is exactly like legendary Panagiotis Giannakis.

  • @clayvishal6847
    @clayvishal6847 4 місяці тому +8

    Great work Augustas.
    14 down and wih Nunn 3 fouls on the first (!!) quarter everyone thought it was done.
    Then Ataman (and Serelis) threw 'the defenders' in, Kalaitzakis-Juancho who along with the omnipresent Jerian and Vildoza who had the guts to step up out of literally nowhere (freakin hard on a final), managed to force real into bad decisions, start to make her feel vulnerable and eventually mentally broke her.
    The rest was basically clutcu leadership and ice cold blood from Sloukas and Nunn.
    I was inside, lifetime experience.
    Great work, again

    • @sallagitsin308
      @sallagitsin308 4 місяці тому

      Yıllarca bu zafer konuşulacak ve siz bende o maçı canlı izledim diye ömür boyu ölüneceksiniz❤❤

  • @efdempe
    @efdempe 4 місяці тому +15

    Great video Augustas. Keep up the great work guys and keep on bringing excellent video analysis & stats (Thinking Basketball & Baskethead style). Agree that the long Sloukas' 3 was the most important shot in the game. Just to mention, Pana & Real Madrid were the only teams in the top 6 in Off. Efficiency, Def. Efficiency & 3P% the entire season (incl. F4) Two best teams went to the final, the best team won. Go PAO ☘☘☘☘

  • @yorgos.r
    @yorgos.r 4 місяці тому +10

    Best F4 video across all basketball channels. Well done 💯

  • @kmj1459
    @kmj1459 4 місяці тому +10

    What a game. Looking forward to see Pao defending their title next year

  • @asdaseqedsdas
    @asdaseqedsdas 4 місяці тому +4

    4 days later still crying from joy

  • @modzel408
    @modzel408 4 місяці тому +22

    Game much better than any NBA games.

  • @Pontiki1977
    @Pontiki1977 2 місяці тому +1

    You are genuine "Basketikos" guy. In Greece we call Basketikos the few who understand the sport perfectly. I have been watching basketball since 1987(of course). But my analysis is non existent. I simply shout "yes" when we score, and "no" when we don't. In football i can analyze my team, the tactics and each player. But after each basketball game i need a "Basketikos" to explain to me why the hell we lost. It will sound not true, but i am close to 50 years old now and i believe that only 1 in 5 fans fully understands basketball. Even though it is only 5 vs 5 compared to 11 vs 11, basketball looks more complex than football to me.

  • @de4egillo
    @de4egillo 4 місяці тому +22

    When Greeks and Turks cooperate :)

  • @AkisPapadopoulos-l4k
    @AkisPapadopoulos-l4k 4 місяці тому +13

    You guys can do a documantary about Pao's epic journey thoughout the season , with the ups and downs , coming from 17th place to winning it all in a year.

    • @nikola3110
      @nikola3110 4 місяці тому

      90% of players is not same like last year,and best players are brought

    • @streetspanic
      @streetspanic 4 місяці тому +3

      So? If it's that easy, why doesn't everyone do it?

    • @spirosfakiolas928
      @spirosfakiolas928 4 місяці тому +3

      @@nikola3110best players that bought are Balcerowsky, Kostas Antentokoumpo, Grant, Papapetrou, Vildoza, Moraitis ?

    • @alexo5303
      @alexo5303 4 місяці тому

      PAO had the 2nd biggest budget in the Euroleague this season €35m. Fenerbache had €25m, Olympiacos had €22m. The highest was Real with €42m and the lowest was Zalgiris with €13m. PAO in the 2021-2022 season was on €9.5m.

  • @sahin569
    @sahin569 3 місяці тому +3

    beautiful analysis. keep it up!

  • @bigunlazmolur7502
    @bigunlazmolur7502 4 місяці тому +3

    Best of Ergin ataman

  • @mhadjimitsis
    @mhadjimitsis 4 місяці тому +3

    Maybe the best euroleague final. Excellent analysis, thank you!

  • @neothan1883
    @neothan1883 4 місяці тому +14

    The best for Panathinaikos now begins. What Bertomeu did to us from 2012 in the semi-final with CSKA where he changed the history of basketball until now will be paid by all of them watching Panathinaikos build a new Empire in basketball. The bond that the Management-Coach-Philathletes have does not exist anywhere, this was everyone's fear and now it has returned. Sit down now everyone and see how Panathinaikos will lift the cups. Next year and from now on he will start as a favorite every year to win the Euroleague with the team he will build.

    • @KaraMizahFutbolHD
      @KaraMizahFutbolHD 4 місяці тому +1

      You are right. I think they can do it. And I think they will do it. Pana should also get Shane Larkin because Sloukas is getting old.

    • @truthhearer6323
      @truthhearer6323 4 місяці тому

      ​@@KaraMizahFutbolHDLarkin already renewed with Efes, you big football expert

    • @astarti23xx
      @astarti23xx 4 місяці тому +4

      @@truthhearer6323 I don't think he necessarily meant next year, the discussion is about the future of Panathinaikos in general. Sloukas will play next year too anyway. So no need to attack people for no reason.

    • @oiktos498
      @oiktos498 4 місяці тому

      ​@@astarti23xxFacts....

  • @goodlife2144
    @goodlife2144 4 місяці тому +15

    Thank you HALIL ERGIN ATAMAN 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

  • @kyriakosxanthopoulos3468
    @kyriakosxanthopoulos3468 4 місяці тому +6

    Wonderful analysis. THX

  • @alexchr380
    @alexchr380 4 місяці тому +4

    My comment on this video is this:
    Voodoo voodoo, voodoo voodoo, και πράσινη μαγειαααα

  • @HarunYasaroglu-pe6ps
    @HarunYasaroglu-pe6ps 4 місяці тому +3

    Even this Turk-hating Baltic guy could not say anything bad about Ataman. Well done Ergin.

  • @xaralampos1990
    @xaralampos1990 4 місяці тому +4

    As a fan of panathinaikos i would say great analysis of the game it was exactly how you set with a few words coach ataman outplayed mateo.

  • @achilleas4306
    @achilleas4306 4 місяці тому +3

    Excellent video, excellent work, excellent channel. Well done boys! Oh, and we want Rytis!!!! haha

  • @ianislios
    @ianislios 4 місяці тому +4

    Nice analysis and beautiful work.

  • @JBagasas
    @JBagasas 4 місяці тому +3

    Great video! Thanks for one of the best analysis I've seen!

  • @aleksandartadic9
    @aleksandartadic9 4 місяці тому +8

    Ergin Ataman is New Zeljko Obradovic. Maybe will be better than Zeljko

  • @alexo5303
    @alexo5303 4 місяці тому +3

    As always, another great video, thanks for providing informative content. You mentioned Kalaitsakis played an important role in defence which helped PAO to the title. In an interview after the game, Kalaitsakis said that Sloukas had managed to persuade Ataman to give him (Kalaitsakis) more minutes on the court.
    PAO's Euroleague gross budget seems to have skyrocketed from €9.5m in 2021/2022 (2nd lowest) to €35m in 2023/2024 (2nd highest) - how much has this played a deciding factor? There's a slight correlation between budget vs results (although Armani has yet to make the Final 4 spending €30m+).

    • @boraerdem4588
      @boraerdem4588 3 місяці тому +1

      Success does not come without spending money. There is no guarantee of success by spending money

  • @gabepizza
    @gabepizza 4 місяці тому +5

    Shots fired at Doc Rivers

  • @gioumris2423
    @gioumris2423 4 місяці тому +171

    ERGIN ATAMAN UNDISPUTEDLY BEST COACH IN THE EUROLEAGUE AT THIS MOMENT. CHUS MATEO WITH 7 MILLION MORE IN HIS BUDGET AND BARELY MANAGED NOT TO LOSE WITH MORE THAN 20 POINTS DIFFERENCE. IF I WAS HIM I WOULD BE ASHAMED OF THE BEST COACH AWARD HE RECIEVED

    • @MrTiulia
      @MrTiulia 4 місяці тому +8

      A bit cringe to complain about money, when PAO is second budget team in euroleague 😉

    • @lm7_gio
      @lm7_gio 4 місяці тому +20

      Το τερματισες ρε ψηλε μου, το ματς ηταν στους 5 ποντους με 3 λεπτα για τη ληξη κι εσυ κανεις λες και τους ειχες double score σε ολο τον αγωνα. Καλυτερος ο Αταμαν σιγουρα, αλλα κρατα λιγο την ψυχραιμια σου.

    • @Bluecoala77
      @Bluecoala77 4 місяці тому +11

      Real was the best team before the final with 31 wins in 38 games. Well deserved best coach by the spanish. If they change the rules and wait till the finals then Ataman should receive it.

    • @gioumris2423
      @gioumris2423 4 місяці тому +14

      @@MrTiulia I am not complaining about money, quite the opposite, I'm emphasising on why it doesn't matter. Someone else who got humiliated by Real in the semifinal is the one who complained and wined like a baby, crying about Real's budget. Ataman is a professional, not a crybaby. This is why he has 3 CHAMPIONSHIPS IN 4 YEARS, and Mr.B has none, and will never get one if he continues to have a sore-loser mentality. Bartzokas said that Final-Four was beyond their expectations. Ataman said that if they don't reach the final four he will leave the team. Guess which coach is the champion of Europe and wich coach only has national cups that no one cares about to show for. Still don't undesrtand the difference?

    • @gioumris2423
      @gioumris2423 4 місяці тому

      @@lm7_gio Φίλε από ότι φαίνεται ακόμα δεν έχεις καταλάβει την σημασία αυτού του παιχνιδιού. Σε αυτό το παιχνίδι ο Αταμάν απέδειξε ότι ο Ματέο είναι απλά ένας κομπάρσος που υποδύεται τον προπονητή, απλά και μόνο επειδή πρέπει να υπάρχει ένας προπονητής για τυπικούς λόγους. Η Ρεαλ την οποία στην φετινή σεζόν την είχα θεοποιήσει σε όλα τα επίπεδα (ορθά, αλλά προπονητικά δεν έπρεπε), αποδείχτηκε ότι το μόνο πράγμα που έχει να δείξει είναι οι παίκτες. Έχει τους δύο καλύτερους ψηλούς στην Ευρώπη με διαφορά (Ταβάρες, Πουαργιέ) και από εκεί και πέρα όλοι της οι παίκτες είναι εκπληκτικοί σουτέρ με τεράστια γκάμα κινήσεων, εμπειρία και ταλέντο. Ξέρουν να παίζουν πικ'ν'ρολ, ζώνη, και να ταΐζουν τους ψηλούς μπάλα. Στο 99% τις εκατό των περιπτώσεων δεν χρειάζεται να κάνουν και τίποτα άλλο λόγο του ατομικού επιπέδου του κάθε παίκτη. Φάνηκε όμως πως όταν έρθει η ώρα να αντιμετωπίσουν ένα καλά οργανωμένο αντίπαλο ο οποίος δεν απέχει και τόσο από αυτό, χάνονται, και δεν υπάρχει κανένας εκεί να τους αναδιοργανώσει. Όταν ο Σλούκας κατέστρεψε την ζώνη της Ρεαλ, ο Καμπάτσο που ήταν στον πάγκο ήταν πολύ πιο προβληματισμένος από τον Ματέο ο οποίος σαν να έκανε πως δεν καταλάβαινε και ήλπιζε να ανοίξει η Γη να τον καταπιεί. Η Ρεαλ είναι μια αγέλη λιονταριών υπό την ηγεσία ενός πρόβατου.

  • @ΤίτοςΜίντζας
    @ΤίτοςΜίντζας 4 місяці тому +1

    Great analyzing right there man, thank you!! It seemed like Tavares was out of space after picking up very early fouls in the 1st, but I did not realize he exposed Real defensively that much. Going from -14 to +18 against this year's Real was a statement made from the team. Get ready for next year!!

  • @panosroz529
    @panosroz529 4 місяці тому +70

    PANATHINAIKOS THE BIGGEST TEAM IN EUROPE☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️

    • @rommul1389
      @rommul1389 4 місяці тому

      You had 6000 fans vs maccabi in the beginning of the season becaue of a few bad games, partizan had a terrible season but the worst attendace was 19000 against alba after a horrible season.

    • @Panathinaikos13.
      @Panathinaikos13. 4 місяці тому +11

      ​@@rommul1389bro the war started and people were afraid to go in case of terrorists

    • @oiktos498
      @oiktos498 4 місяці тому

      Wtf you say?...Did you dip your tongue in your mind before writing it?...​@@rommul1389

    • @larsnielsen1852
      @larsnielsen1852 2 місяці тому

      @@rommul1389so,Partizan won the European trophy for audience attendance. Anything else?

  • @bongalist
    @bongalist 4 місяці тому +2

    Played the best ball in Europe over the past 3 months, got a well deserved title, with everybody contributing and being important all season and in the F4. We have been here before. This is only the beginning for the new era for Panathinaikos, and what a bang they've made already. Losing the local chip to Olympiakos seems like an impossibility, and improvements to the roster are on the cards for next season. With all things being equal a B2B will not surprise me . Awesome basketball from the best team in Europe. Congrats to all!

  • @EstebanERF
    @EstebanERF 4 місяці тому +4

    Bravo Pana

  • @SelcukChasan-y4h
    @SelcukChasan-y4h Місяць тому

    Good Analysis
    Good Content
    Keep it up 👍
    Grtz from Düsseldorf/Germany

  • @MrDuncanquasar
    @MrDuncanquasar 4 місяці тому +1

    Love your breakdowns Augustus Greetings from Indiana

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 3 місяці тому +1

      So glad to hear! thanks a lot and greetings back from Lithuania!

  • @mystery_buff
    @mystery_buff 4 місяці тому +3

    Skoukas is worth every penny panathinaikos gave ☘️☘️☘️

    • @xdx2653
      @xdx2653 4 місяці тому

      really ???and why while he was at olympiakos every pao fan saying that was a very overrated player???is the knowen clasical greek stereotype??
      sloukas was the best move from giannakopoulos so far.trust me

  • @speedwagon6-e1b
    @speedwagon6-e1b 4 місяці тому +7

    Is Ataman now the 3rd or 4th greatest euroleague coach of all time? Can we even say that he’s arguably the 2nd greatest now?

    • @NikosNikos-dr7wv
      @NikosNikos-dr7wv 4 місяці тому

      More coaches with more titles.
      If you go by active coaches, he is 3.
      Obradovic (9)
      Messina(4)
      Ataman (3)

    • @arslanyabgu9516
      @arslanyabgu9516 4 місяці тому +3

      @@NikosNikos-dr7wv Ataman unlucky
      His one championship goes away because of pandemic
      Efes was on fire that year but they cancelled everything so unlucky ımo

    • @philipchouliaras5879
      @philipchouliaras5879 3 місяці тому

      @@NikosNikos-dr7wv id take ataman over Messina any day

  • @pantr565
    @pantr565 4 місяці тому +4

    That's a real basketball analysis. Congrats!
    The fact that Real Madrid bet almost everything in 3-point shots cost them the match for both PAO's and European basketball's shake.
    Of course, we love clutch threes and all that stuff, but European basketball is way more multidimensional than a 3-point contest.
    Don't get me wrong: Real Madrid played the most multidimensional basketball during the whole season, but in the final they lost their balance and that gave PAO the opportunity to get the trophy as the 2nd best team of the season.
    I'm extremely happy for PAO's comeback to the top, but I have to say that we have to help all the European powerhouses to be real powerhouses and finally keep our best talents here. Basketball in Europe is way more competitive, emotional and loud, even with way less money, talent, organization, etc.
    This type of basketball deserves to have players of the quality of Doncic, Jokic, Giannis, etc. We miss the money which come through hard work (from the professionals) and true support (from the fans). Let's do it!

    • @EverydayNormalGeek
      @EverydayNormalGeek 4 місяці тому +4

      We have to start from the very basics in Europe. 1st, we cannot have FIBA and Euroleague competing over who is the legitimate pan-Eruopean competition. We need one major competition and one minor, not 4 different ones. Then, whoever manages that competition has to ensure that the teams remain rich and able to ivnest and that the budget gaps are minimised, meaning more participation and prize money for the teams and a budget cap for player salaries. If we don't start from these then Europe will always be behind NBA and all the top European talent will be playing in the other side of the pond.

    • @pantr565
      @pantr565 4 місяці тому +2

      @@EverydayNormalGeek The dispute between FIBA & Euroleague has been ridiculous. I think the end of this is the most obvious and easy step.
      Other steps can be way more difficult.
      For example, a salary cap would bridge the financial gaps for bigger competition but it probably would be another serious issue to the lack of top tier talent, because even now without a salary cap the richest teams in Europe can't afford NBA caliber players (with only a few exceptions).
      Anyway, it's not our job to find the solutions. Our job is to support our teams as fans and appreciate those professionals who will honestly try for the growth of European basketball and not just for their pockets.

    • @Kreontas
      @Kreontas 4 місяці тому

      Everybody would love that, but the truth is basketball is not nearly as popular in Europe so the revenue will never be there. Add to that that the countries in which it is popular enough are small markets and it's just futile. Without money you can't compete even if you can make a better product.

  • @tskolos13
    @tskolos13 4 місяці тому +4

    7/8 finals only PANATHINAIKOS...... THE KING IS BACK☘☘☘☘☘☘☘

  • @ergindemir7366
    @ergindemir7366 4 місяці тому +1

    From zero to hero within a year, that's the biggest difference between NBA and Europe. In NBA you need to plan 10 years ahead to achieve that.

  • @boraerdem4588
    @boraerdem4588 3 місяці тому +5

    panathinaikos first quarter was bad because Ataman was watching Galatasaray's championship game😂

  • @myke3223
    @myke3223 4 місяці тому +3

    Great Video!

  • @maxamico8872
    @maxamico8872 4 місяці тому +1

    Great Analysis!☘️

  • @joseramalho3297
    @joseramalho3297 3 місяці тому +1

    You guys are goood reading the games. 👏👏

  • @panathasg13
    @panathasg13 4 місяці тому +2

    Great analysis

  • @ΑλκηςΑλεξιου
    @ΑλκηςΑλεξιου 4 місяці тому

    You are to the point !Sloukas shot was the most important thing in the game and mitoglou change..

  • @panathasg13
    @panathasg13 4 місяці тому +1

    Also, 4-5 shots with mostly 3pointers didnt go in from Super Mario. Which helped.

  • @georgeathineos4561
    @georgeathineos4561 3 місяці тому

    Fair analysis

  • @TheagenisXinopoulos
    @TheagenisXinopoulos 4 місяці тому +1

    Gianis for pao,Player and. Micic real why not ?then we go crazy basketgame

  • @bouzoukistudent8180
    @bouzoukistudent8180 4 місяці тому +1

    As the saying goes , " it can not be only an uphill road until the end ". It is bound to happened at some point to start missing threes .
    And for a team that won all this season games primary with 3point shots , it becames a second nature to the playing style of the players . And of course at difficult times by instict you try to do what you always do to survive. And every time you miss one the preassure gets higher , you turn deep into your nature , you miss more and that snowball until you reach the point of no return .
    Remember last year , they stole / won the tittle with a 3point shot from a guy who had zero points and came in the last second from the bench .
    The only persn who will have made them won this final is Gabriel Deck . At least two levels higher class from campazo .more mental player . more balanced and with higher ability to read the enemy defence and always a solid shooting hand .
    But ce est la vie !
    pame gia to 8o tou xronou !

  • @ΚΩΣΤΑΣΦΩΚΑΣ-δ6ξ
    @ΚΩΣΤΑΣΦΩΚΑΣ-δ6ξ 3 місяці тому

    Excellent game analysis!!
    Congratulations.
    The conclusion of this game is: Don’t ever feel certain that you are gonna win, until the last moment of the game.

  • @sed64
    @sed64 3 місяці тому

    the greeks and turks together , the result is this ...lets stay friends forever ..

  • @jdabelado716
    @jdabelado716 4 місяці тому +3

    *Maann another one named Kendrick cooking someone* 😭🤣

  • @steliosioannou2800
    @steliosioannou2800 4 місяці тому +3

    Kostas Sloukas kill Real momentum at 4 quorter 4"minits before the end - Panathinaikos well done champions 🎉🎉🎉fantastic game, fantastic atmosphere by Pao fans, best euroleague final game ever!!😊

  • @johnkarambelas7258
    @johnkarambelas7258 4 місяці тому +2

    " I would like to play for you", είπε ο Γιάνναρος ο Αντετοκούνμπο, στον κόουτς Αταμάν...
    Π α ρ ά τ α τα εκατομμύρια, τούς... πακτωλούς... χρημάτων, Γιάνναρε, και έλα εδώ, να σηκώσουμε
    μαζί... π ο λ λ έ ς τέτοιες κούπες ! ! !
    Στην ζωή, δεν είναι όλα... χρήμα, φίλε. 'Ελα εδώ, να χαρείς το μπάσκετ ! Είμαστε ΟΙΚΟΓΕΝΕΙΑ,
    αδερφέ. 'Ελα ξανά πίσω στην χώρα που σε περίθαλψε και σε ανέδειξε.
    Γύρνα πίσω στην α π λ ό τ η τ α, και το οικογενειακό α ν θ ρ ώ π ι ν ο κλίμα !
    Γιάννη Αντετοκούνμπο, ο Παναθηναϊκός είναι Ε Δ Ω, και σε περιμένει ! ! !

  • @asteriospapastergios822
    @asteriospapastergios822 4 місяці тому +1

    So I think I understood the game a bit differently. I believe Real lost due to there problem to adapt to a different game. I don't want to make it too long, but Real big guys where forced into several fouls, which Pao obviously took advantage of as much as they could under the basket, shown at the end with 3 guys being fouled out. Also lets not be unfair and say Pao where playing a dangerous game, at least to me. Pao was closing in there players as much as they could, behind the 3 point line, risking the 3 point shot from a team with the 3rd best shot in the league. They saw Real shots where not going in and Pao even switched at one point to Zone in the 3 quarter, if I'm not mistaken, which shows there obvious tactic, saying to there faces Shoot, that's all you're gonna get!! but you're gonna miss (by all means leaving someone open doesn't mean leaving them completely, but focusing your mind always on Tavares and the big guys as much as you can and the rebound). I think Real Coach was stupid for allowing his players to continue a bad psychological game with themselves, he should have changed it up, slowed it down, and adjusted the system to the big guys. Real barely missed under the basket and whatever the missed most of them where fouls. I give it to Ataman though he saw the issue with the Spaniards and hit the nail so hard they're ego felt it. I mean people who have played professionally know that you cant stop shooting even if its the right thing to do, EGO, that's where the coach comes in!!! Congrats PAO welcome back to the top!!!!!

    • @demetriosskipitaris303
      @demetriosskipitaris303 4 місяці тому

      Just before they started shooting and losing 3's, Pao players had deflected 3/4 attempts to play inside. In 2/4 instances they stole the pass towards Tavares. So afterwards they got scared (momentarily of course) to pass the ball inside and they started to shoot threes. Pao Players, and you are right, after the 2nd or the 3rd missed three from Real they gave them space to shoot while closing in on the inside. There you are absolutelly right, their coach should had intevene and should had calm them down, but I think he "religiously" beleived that the old legendary guard will deliver.

  • @georgestavroulakis8993
    @georgestavroulakis8993 4 місяці тому +2

    he is not the coach with the terrible tactics but he is definitely the best at highlighting the individual gifts of the players.

  • @barisavanoglu8729
    @barisavanoglu8729 4 місяці тому +1

    Engin Ataman 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

  • @ObelixCMM
    @ObelixCMM 3 місяці тому

    Giannis was impressed by Doc Rivers and we all know how that turned out

  • @panoss4714
    @panoss4714 25 днів тому

    10:26 period

  • @xelaander8429
    @xelaander8429 3 місяці тому

    Pablo Laso wouldn't have let them keep shooting threes like that, sad

  • @PROmeteZEUS
    @PROmeteZEUS 3 місяці тому

    Atamaniakis

  • @MCLRN_GR
    @MCLRN_GR 4 місяці тому

    Μan your narration about this game, the voice etc, its like watching an episode of how a ship sink.

    • @AugustasSuliauskas
      @AugustasSuliauskas 3 місяці тому +1

      thanks a lot, glad you liked it. and your comparison is great. it kinda felt like that since the beginning of the 2nd quarter!

  • @zombievikinggaming4258
    @zombievikinggaming4258 3 місяці тому

    Tryna recruit him to Milwaukee

  • @TheMustermann487
    @TheMustermann487 3 місяці тому

    *P A N A T H I N A I K O S☘M U N I C H*

  • @dtrcga
    @dtrcga 4 місяці тому

    How's Rytis doing? Recovered yet? What did the doctors say?

  • @xristosglezellis3025
    @xristosglezellis3025 4 місяці тому +1

    It's PANATHINAIKOS or P.A.O SHORTCUT
    NO PANA

  • @Njrocks00
    @Njrocks00 3 місяці тому

    Giannis trying to bring a Euro coach to the Bucks I dont blame him but it was his fault they got Adrian Griffin in the first place, he only got hired because Giannis wanted him meanwhile almost every team in the league at one point passed him over because they all knew he wouldnt be a good coach.

  • @DjNiqueed
    @DjNiqueed 4 місяці тому

    I don't like these Lithuanians because they were unfair with most dominant Euroleague team while this team had hard time after Obradovic era. So for sure I'll not support them now that we are on top of the Euroleague.
    BUT, I'm objective. Great analysis and amazing edit.

  • @filipmaric5951
    @filipmaric5951 4 місяці тому +1

    hopefully he doesnt mind wisconsins weather

  • @alexanderparanoid2173
    @alexanderparanoid2173 4 місяці тому

    4th quarter was more like Sloukas vs Nunn

  • @vasiliszaxaropoulos8726
    @vasiliszaxaropoulos8726 4 місяці тому +2

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Bboss83
    @Bboss83 4 місяці тому

    08:10 this girl is in love with Lessort 😂

  • @mehmetozcan8971
    @mehmetozcan8971 4 місяці тому +5

    Pana players fought much harder. On defense particularly. Real missed wide open shots while Pana players started to hit all including bad looking and/or long distance shots. That was not mainly about the coach on tactic side. Maybe on motivation side Ergin deserves credit.

    • @spreewind
      @spreewind 4 місяці тому

      You need definitely more than just motivation to come into the final four and than to beat Real Madrid in the final in this outstanding way. It was a masterpiece of couching and teamplay!

    • @tachyonic
      @tachyonic 4 місяці тому +2

      It is serious stupidity to say that a coach who has won this cup three times in the last four years only knows how to motivate.

    • @mehmetozcan8971
      @mehmetozcan8971 4 місяці тому

      @@spreewind i did not say he is bad. i explained why he won. assuming both coaches performed similar, more decisive and better fighting pana players + just a bit luck creats a win easily. dont forget Pana also has top quality and more hungry players by the way. besides, watch the game again, you ll see very energic defense by Pana palyers and all shots going in particularly 4th q. and easier but missed shots of Real. has Sloukas ever made 6 over 6, 4 of which three pointers all his career? i doubt it. Anyway Pana deserved the win. when offense is squeezed, Sloukos got creative for example.keep follwing Ergin and you will se he relies on stars most of the time.

    • @mehmetozcan8971
      @mehmetozcan8971 4 місяці тому

      @@tachyonicreturning your nice praisal words back to you primarily: i explained why he won. assuming both coaches performed similar, more decisive and better fighting pana players + just a bit luck creats a win easily. dont forget Pana also has expensive, top quality and more hungry players by the way. besides, watch the game again, you ll see very energic defense by Pana palyers and all shots going in particularly 4th q. and easier but missed shots of Real. and a much looser defense. Has Sloukas ever made 6 over 6, 4 of which three pointers all his career? i doubt it. Anyway Pana deserved the win. when offense is squeezed, Sloukos got creative for example. keep follwing Ergin and you will se he relies on stars most of the time.

  • @bafanakamela3485
    @bafanakamela3485 4 місяці тому

    You gotta start posting these highlights 😢

  • @tsamur100
    @tsamur100 4 місяці тому

    Ataman will be in nba sooner or later

    • @NikosNikos-dr7wv
      @NikosNikos-dr7wv 4 місяці тому

      Obradovic had 9 titles
      I don't understand why he didn't go to nba

    • @Kreontas
      @Kreontas 4 місяці тому +1

      @@NikosNikos-dr7wv He had talks but things are different there, you can't be the same type of coach you are here. European coaches especially old school ones, were above the players and are used that what they saw is law, everyone should play strictly how they dictate etc, which is not how the NBA operates. Now Ataman is way more modern and his coaching style is very similar to what NBA coaches do(let your talented players dictate the offense, but inspire/convince them to play hard on defense), the only thing that would hold him back in my opinion is his antics on and off the court which wouldn't vibe with the NBA.

  • @ioanniskritsotakis1228
    @ioanniskritsotakis1228 4 місяці тому

    He said he would never play for PAO or olympiakos cause they rejected him when he was young, yet he would buy one if the teams 😂😂

  • @chrisgetz9787
    @chrisgetz9787 3 місяці тому

    It's not difficult to impress Giannis since hos basketball iq is average. That doesn't mean that Ataman isn't a great coach it just means that measuring it with gianni's impression doesn't mean anything

  • @lm7_gio
    @lm7_gio 4 місяці тому +8

    As someone who was in love with European basketball but in the past decade started watching systematicaly the NBA, i have to point out that the talent gap is immense. This excellent defence (for European standards/personel) that leaves wide open 3s would get utterly demolished in the NBA. That's not to throw shade to European basketball, just an observation. It's no coincidence that most of these players that are invaluable in Europe were somewhere between the bench and the stands when they "played "in the NBA (Nunn, Hezonia etc).

    • @JayTeeGR
      @JayTeeGR 4 місяці тому +5

      I agree, leaving wide open threes right now in the nba is suicidal. 🤔

    • @sergioa.9695
      @sergioa.9695 4 місяці тому +3

      During the regular season Euroleague is a better product to watch but once playoff time come the NBA is on a completely different level, not only talent wise but also in execution. There are really good players in Euroleague but they are not good enough to have big roles in Nba and they can easily exploited on defense while in Europe the game fit them better and they cen showcase more of their game.

    • @jasonkazazis
      @jasonkazazis 4 місяці тому +5

      most nba players would shit themselves with this type of defense tbh

    • @Ashok_Regiment
      @Ashok_Regiment 4 місяці тому +5

      No shit Sherlock, have you seen their budgets? But if the NBA is soooooo good why is team USA losing from European countries smaller than Texas?

    • @aftermeta6556
      @aftermeta6556 4 місяці тому +2

      Hahaha this oly fan is sud...

  • @yurttas5830
    @yurttas5830 4 місяці тому +6

    GREAT TURK = ERGİN ATAMAN🐺🧡❤

    • @SpartanLeonidas1821
      @SpartanLeonidas1821 4 місяці тому +1

      🛖🐓🦃🛖

    • @truthhearer6323
      @truthhearer6323 4 місяці тому

      ​@@SpartanLeonidas1821time to lose your virginity son, your sexual frustration is all over UA-cam

    • @sayginozan3649
      @sayginozan3649 4 місяці тому

      @@SpartanLeonidas1821you are sick racist

    • @sayginozan3649
      @sayginozan3649 4 місяці тому

      @@SpartanLeonidas1821you are sick also ignorant of history racist, little zeus 😅 yes you are ancient greek my love !!! 😘

  • @jojod3707
    @jojod3707 4 місяці тому

    Without the subs at the beginning all you hear is "GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI..." . Pοοr reporter couldn't get a profile pic. xD
    Ps. VOODOO VOODOO VOODOO VOODOOOO ☘☘☘☘☘☘☘

  • @danijelhrup9715
    @danijelhrup9715 3 місяці тому

    Coach didn't outplayed Coach, that night Real players couldn't cook the shoot from outside and it's simple like that... For me it's stupid concept, that final four ( in one game, anybody can beat anybody ), why do they play on four games and than one gets to semi final and you play one game... When thru out season Real destroyed Pana every time

  • @Nakraal
    @Nakraal 4 місяці тому +1

    Have to disagree about Sloukas long range one. Yes, this was the moment Madrid lost, that their zone was broken to pieces, but it wasn't brilliance, but a mere statistical success. This was a desperation shot, that just went in. He attempted the same about the same time last year, and he lost it. Now, it went in, and it changed everything

  • @danijelhrup9715
    @danijelhrup9715 3 місяці тому

    C'mon it was no defense, it's simple - Hezonia had a bad shooting night and that's it, if he had score two in a row Pana would be the loser

  • @GrArktos
    @GrArktos 4 місяці тому

    How many fouls on Lessort? Did anyone count?