How To Fix Electronic Issues In The Instrument Cluster Of An '03-'07 GM Truck
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- In this episode of PowerNation Extra, LT from Truck Tech explains how to fix electronic issues in the instrument cluster which is common in 2003-2007 GM truck and SUVs - like the one they have in the shop. Some fixes you can try are:
1. Take the cluster out and send it to a repair shop for aroun $100.
2. Go down to your local dealership and likely need to get a new cluster for around $500.
3. Or repair it yourself, as LT shows you how, for about $20 and an hour of your time.
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I’m going to watch this video 50 more times, then I’m going to break my cluster trying to fix it😂
🤣🤣
Just happened to be Lmfaoo
When I hear a professional mechanic say it will cost an hour of time...I KNOW it will take me 4x that amount of time and I'll probably break something. I'm a horrible mechanic and impatient. I'll just pay to have it fixed. Much respect to the pros and diy mechanics. They deserve every cent they charge IMO.
I think we're related😂
@@ShakemanCamaroHey family ✋😂
me watching this video and thinking the exact same thing😂😂😂
Yep I heard him say an hr. I went to another video. I don’t have 3 days to work on the truck 😂😂😂
Before taking all of this apart and doing the soldering, try an EASY fix! Check the cigarette lighter on the right side. I just used a USB adapter with a light to see it didn't work. Picked up a 15A fuse at OReilly's and 10 minutes later, with the fuse replaced for the cigarette lighter, the gauge panel worked again!
Does this work if the lights are very dim.
Even with the dimmer switch all the way up?
@@do7hemath937 you need to replace the switch
@@JorgeGonzalez-kb4hr I'm going to try this. Everything is dark.
Not just the Gas, Speedometer, mileage etc.,
The lights for the Heat/A.C./ Defrost. The Factory radio lights were dark, but I replaced it with a new radio/ cd player & the lights on it aren't dim.
Good looking out.
@@JorgeGonzalez-kb4hr just smack the switch that’s what I do
My cluster often doesn't turn on at all and sometimes it does ?any ideas on a easy fix
The issue I was having was no digital display readings on either displays and no gauges working. Turned out to be several solder joints were broken. No kit required.
Once I removed the needles and examined that side of the board it was obvious where the problem was. In fact if you look at the instrument cluster in this video when he has the circuit board exposed (the front side under the needles) you will notice two locations that have been discolored due to overheating. One at around 10:00 and one around 2:00 position. It was these areas that I had to resolder multiple joints. Although I did purchase a kit thinking it was the stepper motors for $30. I did use the kit to upgrade my lights so I am happy I did buy it.
So if you are experiencing similar problems you might just need to resolder some joints. 2004 Chevy Silverado.
Hi I'm having the same issue with my 2004 tahoe Lt I can't even see my mileage or anything
So if the gauges on the right side such as battery, temp, oil, and gas don't work but everything else works it could be a solder issue?
Thank you for this comment! This was exactly what was wrong with mine. You could barely tell where the solder was broken. Anyway I soldered it up and it works great!
@@HandyTimI’m having same issue only speedometer and rpm gauge works. Windows and radio don’t work either when it happens. Sometimes won’t even start
Thanks trying to figure mine out keeps cutting off an on
There is actually less room for error if you mark the zero home location unpowered rather than the powered location.
Also, there is no need to peel the face layer off, that whole top half can come out in one piece.
But great video, your editing it top notch.
What solder is best to use for this application
@@dailygrinders89 the silver one
@@djft6944 🤣
@@dailygrinders89 seriously though the thinnest gauge available
@@djft6944 ok bet thank you
Might as well replace lights while you are in there. Don't forget to check for any solder cracks on rest of board.
Thank you so much for not including removing everything and reinstalling everything thank you 2-minute video freaking awesome I wish all videos were like yours.. I'm editing this I just realized I sounded sarcastic I was being serious LOL
I just finished replacing all of my stepper motors. A word of caution. Do not attempt this if you are not experienced at soldering and own a nice soldering iron. I have done a lot of soldering in my life and used a $400 weller soldering iron. When I was finished all of the gauges were fixed except the speedometer. Turns out I over heated one of the pins a little to much which ruined the trace on the board. I ended up taking a single conductor from a piece of cat5 and making a jumper wire to the next point where that trace went to and now it all works. My point is that if I had used the standard $20 soldering iron from the hardware store, I am positive that I would have ruined all of the traces. If your iron can’t melt the solder in a second or 2 and you have to hold it there, the glue that they use to seal the back of the board will begin to melt and ruin your solder joints. Not a solution for an amateur. Then again, if your other option is the dealer and a new cluster all together, then I guess it’s worth trying. If you ruin it, you can still always have them put in a new one. If you can afford to be without the cluster and do without the vehicle for a few days, I think the best option is to send it off for repair.
Our Suburban had problems with the dash for a long time. All the gages (except the RPM meter and the temp. gage) stopped working, and some of the settings on the AC and heating didn't work. Finally got those fixed a couple years ago. Interesting video.
Did you find put what The problem was? I have an avalanche 2003 with The same problem
Did you find what the problem was?
For real, why you leave everyone hanging on what you got repaired? 😆
Any update having Sam's problem
Did you replace the Cluster? I’m having the same problem 😢
This video gets an A+ not like those long winded ones that just say nothing thanks l can now fix my problem. Great show thanks again.
so I guess you didn't have to wait for the new parts to arrive you just had them in Stock. .BTW I forgot what part # did you use?
I wished I would have thought about the tape trick. Live and learn,sharp as a hotdog I am.
Its cost 20 bucks with a thousand worth in equipment I still love it
Not true. Soldering iron, $20. Solder sucker, $5. Socket set, $15. Rebuild kit, $25. Power in the price of satisfaction of doing it yourself, priceless.
Not true, there's an entire kit on Ebay that includes the soldering gun and extractor+ solder with 8 motors for $24.94
I have a question could you just get a aftermarket one or will you have to reset the computer of some sort becuz all mine is doing is the odometer isn’t working
You talked about the problem where all of the gauges go wacky at the same time and you fixed this by changing all of the steppers? Could be but that doesn't make much sense. They would they all go bad like on the same day? Is the fact that one or two is bad is making all of them not work? The every gauge dead problem sounds more like a wiring or connection issue or something on the panel circuitry. This repair is likely to fix my gauges that all died on the same day?
Definitely not a stepper motor problem.More of connection to the cluster or in the board in the cluster.
Whenever I honk my horn the dash comes back to life? Do I call a mechanic or a priest?
Pray for a mechanic
Both, just cancel the one you didnt need lol
This left me with so many questions, what if none of the gauges work (just twitch) how can you mark the correct position with the key on? And no mention of where to get the stepper motors or model numbers.
You explained (sort of) how to replace the stepper motors, but did not describe how to resolder the SMDs that cause the PRNDL display to fade out, or how to remedy the issue with the cluster failing to go to sleep.
‘03 1500. I got all the above problems.
Sent mine out to get repaired and after seemed ok but intermittent power loss in cluster where I would have to put my hand behind where plug connect and jiggly it til I get power. Then it work for alittle till it happened again
Stephen Dee this is my issue, cluster fails to go to sleep
@@edbuell3181 and drains battery
Check your ground wires under the hood. Theres two grounds one on the motor and the other on hood. Unscrew clean and screw back.
Thank you Brother , i don’t speak to much english but ! MUCHAS MUCHAS GRACIAS
Replacing the poorly engineered negative ground cable works to clean up lots of GM electrical issues. instrument panel included. Their new one is expensive but is better designed.
Exactly which wire you talking about??? I need to fix my van
What ground ?
so my issue is when i turn the key (everything functions correctly) but when i crank my truck up the battery light comes on, PRND321 doesn’t show, and coolant & gas gauges doesn’t move-01 yukon
My instrument panel lights and gauges stopped working. Problem was in the ignition switch. New $25 switch self installed and instruments working again.
Was this for a GM vehicle? My tach and mph work but nothing else. Red lights all over and no other gauges work. Intermittent at first then quit for good
Any idea how to address a dead cluster? Warning/signal lights work, but all needles are dead. All new stepper motors. I’ve replaced successfully the motors on three clusters, but I have two clusters that are still giving me issues. I think it may be some surface mount components but I am not sure where to start. Also it is indeed the cluster because another good cluster does work in the vehicle, and the bad cluster does not work in the vehicle the good cluster came from.
First time taking my cluster apart on my 2003 Chevy Silverado to replace some mini bulbs inside, decided to give it a try before searching any "how to videos (huge mistake). I totally forgot to mark my needles before removing them and now my gauges are completely off. Is the a way to re-calibrate the needles? I need help, please.
Hook it up to an OBD tool and then match up what you can. Some OBD tools are better than others but you could borrow a decent one from Autozone or like company.
I just got quoted $350 and I’m sure if I tried this it would be a weekly project! 😬
be careful on what masking tape you use and consider the condition of the panel, some tape can yank the marking right off when you peel it.
Say you ripped your marking off without saying you ripped your markings off ✌🏻
I'd rather pay the 100 Buck's..who can I send it too
franklin young circuit board medics has a 1 day turn around service.
A lot of places on ebay do it for $60
Thanks, it was a great help I will try to fix it, it looks easy THX !!!!
What if my temperature tanked and now just points due south. does not move. How do I go about getting the needle back in the right place?
Just send the whole cluster in for a full rebuild with a lifetime warranty.We do this sending this to My Air Bags for under $100.00
2007 Silverado 2500 classic diesel. All looks dead on my dash cluster digital, and analog, I replaced the cluster, checked 10 amp fuse for cruise/dash that was fine, checked engine ground that was fine, checked cluster clip ground that was fine. I wish it was simple. When it went out was like a fuse goes out, no warning
Thank you! Super appreciate this kind of help.
Anyone ever had their display randomly light up and flicker when no one is in the truck and speedometer stop working randomly
05 sierra 1500. all gauges work but speedometer needle doesnt. resoldering or stepper motor? tia. great video by the way
I got a 2004 GMC and it had a bad ground at the plug in the back .
I just did this and you don't really have to do the tape thing you can just turn the power on without the plastic cover and put them where they are supposed to go with just the key on and not the truck, then turn the truck on and make sure the active ones are correct
For my 2006 Chevy trailblazer it's not just the cluster it's door panels window switches radio four-wheel drive switches they are all bugging out when I was driving
Thank you so much for your video. You helped me fix the exact problem I have had.
Questions why? To trbolshuthing to closter chevy silverado
You didnt address the light flashing issue that was the initial complaint you stated
The dozen or so resistors need resoldering, not stepper motor replacemey
Sent mine out to a guy in Massachusetts he charged me 190 to completely rebuild it with all new updated stepper motors with a Silverado SS faceplate and a Trans temp gauge. Worked great for 4 years until I sold it.
Hey, going through this with my 04 Suburban. What guy in Massachusetts did you use?
We are waiting
For me, my Guage cluster is stuck at 700rpm, 0mph, 40 oil press, 14 volts, quarter tank of gas, and 160°F and the two little screens at the bottom won't turn on.
Stuck at a quarter tank?? I don't think I'd touch it... Never have to get fuel again!! 🤗 Lol jk'n 😏
I'd check the cigarette lighter fuse... 🤞
@Kjellmclean I bought a replacement cluster for around $250 with the blue numbers. I love it cause it matches my radio. Funny you mention the cigarette lighter. I let my buddy use my portable tire inflator and it drew the max power out of the fuses. After about 5 min of pumping, it blew out his cigarette lighter. Both of them. I tried to use it but it just popped a fuse. A trip to Pull-A-Part later, got newish outlets and I got a pocket full of free fuses
My 2003 Silverado was fixed by the dealer , was a recall. The entire cluster.
Where was that
And how long ago
@@jaimegonzalez722 it was in 07 or about that ..contact a dealer. Ask for it. I would.. they do it easily, it’s easy and they get credit. .. best of luck. Mine jumped and turned off , now, it’s perfect ..only trouble is mud on wheel sensors...
@@jaimegonzalez722 that’s a real recall. They need to do it to every truck...
But what if none of the needles move when you start the engine?
Hi. What if you forgot to mark the neeedle before you took it out? Anyway you can recalibrate the needdle where it should to be stop.? Thanks.
IT’s not the panel, it,’s the signal source. Which “computer”, ECU, etc. drives the indicators?
Nice when u have all the stuff u need to fix it yeah thanks
For the trip toggle, on the 2005 suburban circuit board there is a white circular piece inside a black piece. Is there another piece? How do they sit on the board? Scrolling no longer occurs when the toggle is pressed
I sent my cluster off to be repaired because it wasn't showing the odometer. All of the gauges worked fine but not the mileage/info display. Came back from the repair shop with the same problem :(
Did he replace one stepper motor or all of them? Did they all fail at once? And where do you buy a new stepper motor?
Great video
Not sure if this is what I'm dealing with, the speedometer is not working n the break light is on, then all of a sudden it starts working brake light goes off, then after a few minutes, stop working again n brake light comes back
Using a professional desoldering gun is the proper process. Putting tape at the end of the needles is no way accurate.The black colored stepper motors your are seen installing do not hold up and will eventually fail only leading to another repair in the future. 2003 to 2006 models have up to 5 issues: (1)Gauges fail 1 by 1 because of defective stepper motors. (2) Dim or dead VFD displays which are the PRNDL and DIC(driver info center). (3) Back lighting at night dim or dead behind the gauges, not the VFD's or digital displays.(4) Intermittent power issue where the gauge cluster and the entire panel will eventually fail leaving only your back lighting bulbs, blinker bulbs and "Check Engine" MIL lit up. (5) Solder joints and bad parts on the circuit board. There can also be software updates and need to be updated on the circuit board. If you're going to ship your cluster off and want it rebuilt properly with a guarantee, it should be done right once and once only without the inconvenience of inferior experience and inferior parts with no guarantee.
GM Gauge Repair Hi, I am experiencing probelm #4 you described to a T. It appears all my lights and stepper motors have already been replaced once in the past. What is the fix for this one? And no, I can't send it in to you. I'm very capable of doing my own electrical repairs, I just need some help troubleshooting it.
Semed to have happened on same era chevrolet cavaliers, maybe 02 and on (or even earlier) - not sure if the cure was the same .
Any advice on a 2003 gmc envoy..the speedometer won't light up there are other lights for symbols but the speedometer and other dials won't show at night
I have made enough to pay off my house working on clusters that customers have gone on the internet to get info Then do exactly what this guy done And worse...Needles pushed too far in stuck and heating up stepper motors Solder not removed proper/reused Stepper motor pulled out with screwdrivers breaking contacts under the stepper. Burned out rings laminate melted away Cracked boards .......That $100 fix in 2022 doesn't exist But i know one thing that does ...It cost x2 to x5 fixing your mistakes ..
Mine won’t fully turn off and it’s draining my battery. Any fix or suggestions for that? Low illumination where information display is.
i own a 2007 silverato pickup. a light on the gauges showed a closed padlock and the engine will not turn over . i cleaned the battery terminal and checked out the battery battery .ok. any way to clear it
Last night I replaced the incandescent bulbs on my 03 Trailblazer cluster with LED’s. There were about 10-12. I put it back together plugged it back in and the lights all work, looks great but none of the gauges work including the digital displays. I pulled it back out and noticed a small blackened spot on or near the digital display “module” if you will. Not sure if I caused it or if it had been there prior. Any thoughts on what the problem is? Thanks for any help on this.
Have a cluster problem maybe it's a 04 gmc sierra drove 30 mile and miles didn't go up need help figuring out what to do
I got an weird issue the only gauges that work are the tachometer and speedometer! My radio, windows, and mirrors stopped working as well. The battery is slowly draining, check engine light, ABS, and Air Bag lights also came on when this happened! I jumped the truck an everything worked! Got back in truck the next day it was dead, replaced the battery, an alternator! Still same issue, so I replaced dash cluster! Every thing worked for a day then back to slowly draining battery! No gauges work, but tachometer and speedometer dome light always on! Ob2 reader doesn't connect, and neither did the fancy scan tool. Do you have any suggestions?
UPDATE replaced motor to chassis ground an hood to chassis still problems
Why could none of my warning lights work on my 2006 torrent. All lights come on when i start the car, Speedometer and engine temp gauge fine. I get no warning if there is an issue with my car. No low fluid level warning ect. I have had 3 break downs now because i had coolant leak but no warning i was low. Im worried about what else the car is not warning me about. The only light that does work? and never shuts off is the change oil light.
Hi if I replaced the instrument cluster and the mph keeps idling up and down as I'm driving. Could it be the connector terminal that connects to the back of the instrument cluster that needs to be replaced? I had a mechanic that said just drive it like that.but I'm not comfortable driving without my speedometer working properly
My right turn signal light on the dashboard doesn’t show, how do I fix that???
What if my clall my gouges work,including odometer, but the odometer isn't registering miles?
Unfortunately I have a much worse problem. My gauges are going crazy and I do not have any reverse or signal lights. Starting to wonder if my vehicle was struck by lightning. 🤦♂️
Mine is doing this except my turn signal still works.
@@davebankson5342 Check your ground wires under the driver's door. There's also a ground at the back of the block to check. Sounds like a bad ground somewhere.
"It couldn't get any simpler than that," he says. hahaha
Any help i have to tap my cluster to turn on
If you have cluster problems it's not worth trying to repair it yourself. Try AutoXpressTech. They have a $89 Complete Rebuild for Chevy GMC Clusters . That includes all stepper motors, backlighting and fixes most common problems. I also includes return shipping.
Dan, does that mean if I pull my instrument cluster and ship it to AutoXpressTech they will perform the rebuild and ship it back to me ready to drop back into my dash?
@@karlackdamack4238 yes
On average how long will it take to get the cluster back.
Where are y'all located
My gauges on the right side don't work but everything else does what could be the issue?
I don’t have those magic tools , but how would you eye ball the reading ?
I sent my cluster away for repair and when I put it back in there was no function or electrical going to it? Are there fuses in line or what should I do?
My speed amitor sticks ...I need one of those electric motors. Please send me the link to get one
So will this fix a U1000 code in the CAN Network when the cluster doesn't communicate? It says "electronic issues"? Maybe "How to replace the stepper motors" would've been the correct title for this video.
So my brother didn’t upgrade on that to a newer one and he took it in to the Chevy dealership when he arrives to pick up his vehicle on the way back to work it started flickering and everything off everything else was off and it goes on sometimes every now and then how can we fix it because now I’m the owner of that Tahoe
Would these clusters cause a draw to kill the battery 🤔
Yes! I'm pretty sure you could hook up a gm gauge cluster to an aircraft carrier and it would suck all the power out of it within an hour. 😆
Can a bad cluster cause erratic transmission shifting and or no communication with obd2 port?
Full Circle I don’t think so, what are you driving
It's mostly a bad ground somewhere that causes these issues because GM on these models are notorious for bad ground wiring🙄
I had same problem on mines cluster was bad replaced it today still same thing checked radio fuse under hood now all gauges work i still have abs and airbag light on im try checking grounds but radio fuse fixed my problem i couldn't see rpm,speedometer, nor temp gauge just oil and volts
The abs is probably your abs module. I took mine apart and reworked some of the failed solder joints, sealed and installed it. Lights have not come back on
What would be nice is if they said where to buy the "speedometer step promotor". Anyone know where?
My button does not seem to work. It keeps changing to Spanish . I saw a short 42 second (or so) video of one doing the same thing. But not how to fix
My 04 chevy silverado 1500 none of the gauges work, any idea on how to fixed???
Wouldn’t it be easier to just go to pick and pull and get a whole new cluster? Or does it not work like that.
Could this possibly fix my shifting problem my truck has?
What kind scan tool you used monitor or Guages
thanks
Wait, where was the weld for the ground issue???
My speedometer when out but everything else works on 06 Tahoe
So If I take it out to get repaired can I still drive the truck with it out for a few days?
Yes
Yeah, but I don't recommend it 😅
If anyone tries this.. Id hook up a obd2 reader so you can see engine temp, rpm and speed. Also make sure your tank is full. Last thing hopefully you know what gear you are in :)
Will this cause the truck to loose power also while on the highway?
Mine does this as well😞
My p r drive all that and the miles don’t show on mine how do I fix that?
my speedometer techometer odometer and prndl went out by the other gauges are working fine not sure what happened checked the fuses and they seem fine🤔
Will a bad guage cluster cause the radio to come on and off?
On the the days, my Hummer H2 had this same exact problem and the SOB greedy dealer in Cerritos California charged me 3 thousand dollars... Yes you heard it right! to repair, coz it's Hummer so let the owner pay... And then they had pull the entire car along with the dealership, off the market. Would be truly good if someone in American motor company market ask himself, WHY!!!!
My 04 Silverado has had some instrument cluster issues for some time now (engine light randomly turning on and off for days at a time, cycling between languages, or turning off completely... with no response from the thin button on the panel)... any ideas on what would be a fix to this?
It's how I'm learning French! Just purchased in 04 that does that
Issue I have is noisy stepper motors been replaced any still noisy any thoughts
So I’ve already replaced the switch and I’m still having the issue where my dash won’t light up on the speedometer any idea ?
I have electrical problems with my Silverado that drain the battery. The cluster seems to be where the problem stems. Could the info in this video fix this issue?
My dimmer switch works but none of the gauges work.
where can i find these replacement parts?