I always learn something from your videos. Thanks. Over a life time, I believe, you will end up spending less on a good JNAT set than on throw away razors and perhaps even on double edge razor blades, not to mention cutting down on waste. And you will have the satisfaction of learning and developing a new skill, a skill that can be transferred to many other areas. My free hand knife sharpening has improved since following your approach to straight razor honing. Moreover, using a methodological approach to any skill acquisition (theoretical knowledge, observation, hypothesis forming, experimentation, rinse and repeat) seems to be an effective approach to learning and to improving outcomes. Patience and the willingness to learn from mistakes (after learning to identify mistakes) go hand in hand. Again, thanks for the reminder. Of course, if the sharpening/honing thing becomes more of a hobby than a necessity or a chore, then my comment about saving money goes out the window--I am staring at about 20 hones/whetstones after five years of straight razor honing.
Good stuff, thank you for watching and sharing. I spent a ton of money on Mach 3 carts every year, over 10 yr it added up to over 3k. That's just the blades.. .A few stones here there - sure, that adds up too but I can sell the stones for part of the investment where used M3 carts just go into a landfill. Seems to me that the better choice, that you and I have made, is quite obvious, lol. Happy Honing !
absolutely fascinating subject . i tell you i could talk about it for hours . i find it mesmerising different stones and there attributes. have to say that big ass razor was very nice 👍👍👍. nice job on the brush . see i don’t get on with badger or boar myself. but the good thing i find there is something for every one in this shaving game . use what you like and you are spot on have fun doing it . it’s all about getting off those whiskers as comfortably as possible . cheers for taking the time to do the videos my friend . most enjoyable to watch 👍
Just stopped by your Etsy store and saw the message about your injury, hope you are doing as well as can be expected and onwards to a full recovery. Very much appreciate all the content you have given us over the years and hope to see you hitting the hones again in the near future. :)
Thank you for the well wishes. I am healing now, and hope to open this weekend or sooner. I have been honing all along though, that I can do one-handed. It's my left hand that is temporarily out of commission. Thank you for the kind words and great comment - happy honing!
Although I'm not into Jnats and that tradition I have a lot of respect for the japanese culture around sharpening and honing. I know In Europe there was also something there since you see it in old art. Painting of "blade grinders" and some statues that show the figure honing on whetstones similar to what we see today. Anyways you're videos are great.
Good insight. Throughout history, tool-making, grinding and sharpening technologies were a huge part of what helped civilizations develop and advance. This was true all across the world too. Many archaeological studies really dig into the subject. I remember reading a paper about the sharpening stones from Greenland's ancient times - it was fascinating. Anyways - thank you very much for watching and commenting.
Thanks again for your knowledge Kieth. Have you ever thought of doing a video as a master class video for stones and sharpening/honing? It's something I would buy it and I'm sure others would. You're like me Kieth, I give too much of my knowledge away for free when I should be charging for my 38yrs experience in water systems not stones, still a novice in this field. Anyway thank you so much again for these nuggets Kieth..
Thanks Paul - good point. Sure, I have considered being 'more commercial' but that's a big step to take and to be honest, for right now anyway, that sort of promotion/branding doesn't suit my style or mindset. For me to do something like that means it has to work on both sides of the coin, so for now it's just a possibility that needs a ton of careful consideration.
I got a razor honed on a naniwa 12k and tested as I never shaved on a razor honed on a synthetic. The razor was cutting very nice but my face burned the second day. After I have honed on a jnat. Tested and it was much better. There was no second day burning. Returned to the owner. He tested and second day he called me to buy some jnast from. Jnats rock. :)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. You're always down to Earth with comments and I like that. That W2 steel Cholla/Turquoise Jerry Stark razor looks like a monster -- more like a cleaver than a razor. That midway change in finish on the side. Is that a temper line or San mai forging?
Thank you. I share the same definition of a bevel set. A few guys running around selling stones that (air quote) will set a bevel and then do midrange and finish (end air quote) have a much different definition. But you didn't hear that from me, lol.
Great to see you again Shure helps get through these difficult times I bought a jnat not to Shure what it is but it's a slow stone but the edge in the end was worth it all the best to you and yours keep safe and more vids 😉 gratz keith
Hey Keith.....I had to laugh at your remarks regarding how you no longer sell tomo sets. Ha! I was one of those guys 6 years ago or so. You were right.... But, now....looking back I am glad I have that set. It has really complimented stones I later acquired. I really didn’t discover their value until years later. It has become much harder hard to find good suita tomos or even much of the mid range stuff. Good vid!
i saw u write something about lapping with a 1200 diamond first cant remember where it was. should that be done before using tomo nagura on jnat? as in, flatten stone with 400 diamond plate? then smooth it with 1200 diamond? then start with tomos or stone progression?
I don't use a 1200 diamond plate to lap. I have a small piece of a 1200x plat that I used a couple times for making slurry but I have not used it in a very long time.
@@KeithVJohnson1 yea that was it,for makin slurry. but what i wonder is, after flattening stone for honing, should i leave from 325 diamond after flattening the stone and go straight to progression? or do we need to smooth stone with higher grit before honing/starting progression?
@@jackhere4594 depends on the stone, and the user. There is no formula. check the stone, evaluate the surface, etc. Try one way, try another way, see what works best. I usually finish lap stones with a worn 400x plate. But I can't translate what the stone's surface looks/feels like into words.
@@KeithVJohnson1 what im asking is, should we start honing with a smooth stone or rough grit surface? i realize naturals can be different from one to the next. but take out that and any mystical hoodoo. in general is all im asking. say like a finish stone, hard surface lv4 or 5 with same tomo, starting to finish, should it be smooth or rougher 325 surface when using tomo on it to finish? or does usin the tomo smooth it considerably? in most case scenarios? i like the fun of it but i prefer to spend more money else where as this isnt my top hobby plus responsibilities factor in so all of us arent goin to spend 5000 just to figure out a few stones.most arent.but u seem to have been at this a while and do it alot.i have other naturals but not so much jnats.seems alot want to lead us down roads with jnats that simply arent even roads. iwasaki didnt talk like that.most PROMOTE polished edge means the best shave/best stone, which is not always true as im sure u know
Are there any combinations of tomo and stone you would not recommend? Like a very hard tomo with a very soft stone or the other way around? Mainly to avoid any real damage.
The only way to know what works and what doesn't is to try it. Any possible damage is more about user-error than anything else though. Don't press hard and there won't be damage.
I always learn something from your videos. Thanks. Over a life time, I believe, you will end up spending less on a good JNAT set than on throw away razors and perhaps even on double edge razor blades, not to mention cutting down on waste. And you will have the satisfaction of learning and developing a new skill, a skill that can be transferred to many other areas. My free hand knife sharpening has improved since following your approach to straight razor honing. Moreover, using a methodological approach to any skill acquisition (theoretical knowledge, observation, hypothesis forming, experimentation, rinse and repeat) seems to be an effective approach to learning and to improving outcomes. Patience and the willingness to learn from mistakes (after learning to identify mistakes) go hand in hand. Again, thanks for the reminder. Of course, if the sharpening/honing thing becomes more of a hobby than a necessity or a chore, then my comment about saving money goes out the window--I am staring at about 20 hones/whetstones after five years of straight razor honing.
Good stuff, thank you for watching and sharing. I spent a ton of money on Mach 3 carts every year, over 10 yr it added up to over 3k. That's just the blades.. .A few stones here there - sure, that adds up too but I can sell the stones for part of the investment where used M3 carts just go into a landfill. Seems to me that the better choice, that you and I have made, is quite obvious, lol. Happy Honing !
Thanks Keith, this was great! I really appreciate all your knowledge.
Cool, thank you for the kind words, thank you for watching and commenting too!
Honyaki Razor? Love it! Thanks for your video’s Keith!
absolutely fascinating subject . i tell you i could talk about it for hours . i find it mesmerising different stones and there attributes. have to say that big ass razor was very nice 👍👍👍. nice job on the brush . see i don’t get on with badger or boar myself. but the good thing i find there is something for every one in this shaving game . use what you like and you are spot on have fun doing it . it’s all about getting off those whiskers as comfortably as possible . cheers for taking the time to do the videos my friend . most enjoyable to watch 👍
Thanks Paul - Happy Shaves!
Just stopped by your Etsy store and saw the message about your injury, hope you are doing as well as can be expected and onwards to a full recovery. Very much appreciate all the content you have given us over the years and hope to see you hitting the hones again in the near future. :)
Thank you for the well wishes. I am healing now, and hope to open this weekend or sooner. I have been honing all along though, that I can do one-handed. It's my left hand that is temporarily out of commission. Thank you for the kind words and great comment - happy honing!
Great video. Recently received the nagura I purchased from you, beautiful stones. I can't wait to put them to use.
Sounds great - happy honing!
Beautiful stones and great info! Thanks
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Great words to lives by...HAVING FUN! NOT, curing cancer or saving civilization! Salute 🇮🇹
Happy Honing !!
Although I'm not into Jnats and that tradition I have a lot of respect for the japanese culture around sharpening and honing. I know In Europe there was also something there since you see it in old art. Painting of "blade grinders" and some statues that show the figure honing on whetstones similar to what we see today. Anyways you're videos are great.
Good insight. Throughout history, tool-making, grinding and sharpening technologies were a huge part of what helped civilizations develop and advance. This was true all across the world too. Many archaeological studies really dig into the subject. I remember reading a paper about the sharpening stones from Greenland's ancient times - it was fascinating. Anyways - thank you very much for watching and commenting.
Thanks again for your knowledge Kieth. Have you ever thought of doing a video as a master class video for stones and sharpening/honing? It's something I would buy it and I'm sure others would. You're like me Kieth, I give too much of my knowledge away for free when I should be charging for my 38yrs experience in water systems not stones, still a novice in this field. Anyway thank you so much again for these nuggets Kieth..
Thanks Paul - good point. Sure, I have considered being 'more commercial' but that's a big step to take and to be honest, for right now anyway, that sort of promotion/branding doesn't suit my style or mindset. For me to do something like that means it has to work on both sides of the coin, so for now it's just a possibility that needs a ton of careful consideration.
I got a razor honed on a naniwa 12k and tested as I never shaved on a razor honed on a synthetic. The razor was cutting very nice but my face burned the second day. After I have honed on a jnat. Tested and it was much better. There was no second day burning. Returned to the owner. He tested and second day he called me to buy some jnast from. Jnats rock. :)
Very cool, thank you for watching and commenting!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. You're always down to Earth with comments and I like that. That W2 steel Cholla/Turquoise Jerry Stark razor looks like a monster -- more like a cleaver than a razor. That midway change in finish on the side. Is that a temper line or San mai forging?
Temper line, Thank you for watching and commenting ! Happy Honing !
Fascinating as ever!
Thank you Julio, happy shaves!
Thank you. I share the same definition of a bevel set.
A few guys running around selling stones that (air quote) will set a bevel and then do midrange and finish (end air quote) have a much different definition. But you didn't hear that from me, lol.
Thank you for watching and commenting Mike !
Really enjoyed the video and information thanks
Awesome, thank you for watching and commenting.
Beautiful stone Keith. Great content as always.
Thank you for watching and the nice comment also!!
Great to see you again Shure helps get through these difficult times I bought a jnat not to Shure what it is but it's a slow stone but the edge in the end was worth it all the best to you and yours keep safe and more vids 😉 gratz keith
Good deal Johnny, hope all is well - happy honing!
Hey Keith.....I had to laugh at your remarks regarding how you no longer sell tomo sets. Ha! I was one of those guys 6 years ago or so. You were right.... But, now....looking back I am glad I have that set. It has really complimented stones I later acquired. I really didn’t discover their value until years later. It has become much harder hard to find good suita tomos or even much of the mid range stuff. Good vid!
If ya got 'em and you use them then it was a good deal, that's for sure. Happy Honing !
Is that lacquer you cover the sides not used and if so why? Does that also apply to your arkansas oilstones and why/why not?
It's Cashew Lacquer, there are a few videos about it on my channel. Sealing Jnats prevents water ingress. Arkansas stones do not need to be sealed.
i saw u write something about lapping with a 1200 diamond first cant remember where it was. should that be done before using tomo nagura on jnat? as in, flatten stone with 400 diamond plate? then smooth it with 1200 diamond? then start with tomos or stone progression?
I don't use a 1200 diamond plate to lap. I have a small piece of a 1200x plat that I used a couple times for making slurry but I have not used it in a very long time.
@@KeithVJohnson1 yea that was it,for makin slurry. but what i wonder is, after flattening stone for honing, should i leave from 325 diamond after flattening the stone and go straight to progression? or do we need to smooth stone with higher grit before honing/starting progression?
@@jackhere4594 depends on the stone, and the user. There is no formula. check the stone, evaluate the surface, etc. Try one way, try another way, see what works best. I usually finish lap stones with a worn 400x plate. But I can't translate what the stone's surface looks/feels like into words.
@@KeithVJohnson1 what im asking is, should we start honing with a smooth stone or rough grit surface? i realize naturals can be different from one to the next. but take out that and any mystical hoodoo. in general is all im asking. say like a finish stone, hard surface lv4 or 5 with same tomo, starting to finish, should it be smooth or rougher 325 surface when using tomo on it to finish? or does usin the tomo smooth it considerably? in most case scenarios? i like the fun of it but i prefer to spend more money else where as this isnt my top hobby plus responsibilities factor in so all of us arent goin to spend 5000 just to figure out a few stones.most arent.but u seem to have been at this a while and do it alot.i have other naturals but not so much jnats.seems alot want to lead us down roads with jnats that simply arent even roads. iwasaki didnt talk like that.most PROMOTE polished edge means the best shave/best stone, which is not always true as im sure u know
Are there any combinations of tomo and stone you would not recommend? Like a very hard tomo with a very soft stone or the other way around? Mainly to avoid any real damage.
The only way to know what works and what doesn't is to try it. Any possible damage is more about user-error than anything else though. Don't press hard and there won't be damage.
@@KeithVJohnson1 Good to hear, exploration possibilities seem endless. Thank you!
I am following you for a year now and by now I have about 10 tomo's and planning to buy others. :)
Sounds good! Thank you for watching and commenting!
LOL not someone who'd dew rag is on too tight HA HA HA i'm so stealing that and going to use it
Glad you got a good chuckle outta that one... lol. . happy honing!
First three links led to nothing... :-o
UA-cam must have changed something, the links work now. ty.