@@detextive8472 yeah his voice and personality and the way he speaks and interrupts constantly is a bit pretentious and obnoxious. He’s always been this way tho. That’s why he went through all that shit he did by getting kicked out of multiple houses being sketch and losing every friend he had.
@@Spitfyur Nah, Nick ~7 yrs ago in wow together with Chance, Reckful, etc is chad and content. Probably if you only get to know Nick as PogO or Soyboy or Chance's caretaker like he is right now, then sure.
@@kapitantiago2805 nick was the least entertaining person always lmfao mitch chance and reckful were always the entertaining ones nick always been a pogo weird take andy
theyre doing 42-0 so first they have to tank rating to 1000 which is why they are leaving matches. You get a leaver penalty if you leave an arena early and havent done any damage to the enemy team.
I love it cuz mitch sounds exactly like me trying to convince my friends to play this soul sucking chore fest again just for arenas cuz i love them sadge
"Soul sucking chorefest" very accurate for the past like 3xpacs Once classic released I had no reason to go back. Old wow pvp is superior in every way & with wotlk around the corner it'll be even better. New Spyro xpac is gonna have to be straight up tits in my face to get me away from wotlk.
@@Magetastic69 theres even more soul sucking chores you have to do in classic pvp lmfao i have to do pve to get bis trinkets and shit fuck that noise lmfao
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED!! You're the first WoW streamer I started watching , I remember you and Nick first meeting in the airport ❤️. So happy too see you on this game even for a few hours
I watch those 2 since their start, i could watch them play wow all day long. Makes me love the game, chill gaming talks etc. No politics and "psychology" and shit
FOR THE PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND. THEY ARE LEAVING THE GAMES EARLY BECAUSE THEY ARE TANKING (LOWERING) THEIR MMR (RANKING) SO THE GAMES ARE EASIER IN THE LONG RUN / THEY PLAY WORSE PLAYERS AT LOWER MMR. EVENTUALLY THEY WILL TRY TO GO 42-0. (42 WINS 0 LOSSES) AND ALSO MEANS 420 BLAZE IT SWAG YOLO
WoW won't be going F2P, if anything it will be included in the game pass which is still a subscription service but cheaper and also grants you access to a vast library of other games, so all in all it's still a much better option than the current.
As a casual when seeing THIS, I instantly know why I as a casual never wanted to play arena. Like what balance is this? Some friend with cracked gear just one shots you... peak gameplay.
nah 90% of these players were one shotted because they didn't expect it. although when playing against someone like mitch or any of these guys most people that are't very experienced themselves almost definitely will not win but thats because these people are genuinely good players not the gear.
To be honest my go to streamers were Chance, Hotted, Switfy and Bajhera. I miss the days they were all around. I remember doing pvp with sensei Taz when he was at the gaming house of swifties. No matter what they do I hope they suceed.
Blizz needs to make WoW F2P.. but you have to pay a sub in order to access the latest tier of content. I feel like that is a decent middle-ground, and would bring more players, AND more money.
Awesome to see you back in wow. And yes i watch multiple streamers but i watch you for the longest and sometimes i watch your stream with my wife together. So yes your the number 1 streamer in my list. Keep up the content love it 😃👍🏻
When you guys were talking about “copying asmongold.” I was like you know what do it, do a tmog comp with your viewers I’d like to see what your take is on things like tmog or mount offs at that matter.
if they went free to play, it would be 10x worse. They'd probably introduce battle pass, which willl give you fomo from out of space if you don't get it.
If the game went free to play I probably still wouldnt buy mounts or cosmetic but I wouldnt mind if Other people did rather then being pissed off every time I see one. It would instantly switch my mindset because now thats their model
Ironically I stopped watching soda after he stopped playing wow. he was one of the first streamers I watched non stop, because I loved how he sht on nubs and won gold from scrubs. So its the opposite for me. The age of wow is coming back.
They were playing players with no gear - me and my team matched them with mediocre gear and didn’t have an issue with their own shot setup. That being said definitely a burst meta.
@@iroflsohard Still. Not a fun experience at all. Shadowlands was full with classes which were capable to oneshot people- Retri paladin for example. I played shadowlands even arena and above 2000 rating and it wasn't fun going against those classes at all. I don't know how people still can say that this is "fun"
@@andresnyman580 It's more of hoping an game that was good at some point goes back to exactly this point and thinking to themself that. You maybe think WoW is good but it has lost so much potential to what it was before
I believe, making WOW as F2P is pretty terrible idea. I remember back in the day when I started to play, what surprised me is how the WOW community was different(in a good way) in comparison to DOTA for instance(and other F2P games), which was inundated with braindead 11-13yo kids who were fooling around and ruin everything.
the thing is these older games are too scared to go f2p. but the funny thing is ive spent more money on warframe or league than i ever have on any paid game. i think ive spent less on the COD franchise (bought every game from mw2-MW2019) than i have on league alone. fortnite has been the biggest game for years now and made multiples more money of what other paid games have also genshin, a f2p(but gacha) game made the most money of any game in 2021. companies arent just scared to go f2p but they also dont know how to even monetize it properly.
Lowering his rank by leaving the games, they lose so they go low on ranking, like losing in league to go down to bronze so they can try and do 42-0 and not get matched with good players for a while, so basically trying to "smurf" the first 20 or so games so its not extremely hard to win 42 in a row
They’re going for a streak not W/L. They’re just tanking rating before they start their counter. Going 40+ wins no losses very difficult with high rating. Their official win losses for this stream is probably around 42-30. But they don’t start counting until after their first win.
Its impossible to wow pvp become casual friendly with the gear gap, if someone dont give up farming his honor set in BGs hes gonna quit when he faces full gear ppl in 1600+...
Mitch bringing fun to the times but damn he has the business knowledge of like a stoned 16 year old. Even Soda is like "dude, that's their primary revenue system for the entire game...." good to see some arenas, but I do agree with soda that this sucks to watch for pvp
Nah Mitch definitely has a point. A lot of people are put off by $15 a month but will play or try the game if it’s free. More people playing is more people who realize they like the game and start buying mounts, WoW tokens, etc. The biggest factor in showing the power of the cash shop is to just look at WoW’s revenue. Notice how WoW continues to make more money while clearly losing subscribers. That and the plenty of insanely successful F2P games such as Genshin show that the power of getting people in the door first and then trying to peddle them some cosmetics second works better than charging at the gate.
@@TheAckeePlant consistent ARR is better than micro transactions. Beyond that, the players who join wouldn't necessarily have money for significant transactions over time. If they play for 6 months and buy 1 or 2 things, Blizzard is lowkey losing. There's a big shift when something goes F2P. Realistically, it would make sense for Classic to be F2P and Retail to be the premium and ongoing game as a service
@@ThexInsidexMan They would use the increase in player count to increase those interacting with the cash shop to offset the loss subscription revenue. Whales make most of the money and the more fishing lines you have out to catch them through making the game free to try the better. This in addition to making the game more available such as a console port and WoW could more than likely increase both popularity and by association revenue, as Mitch points out
@@TheAckeePlant no, because you're absolutely not accounting for increased expenses of managing more accounts, servers, etc. The game having less players that pay consistently is significantly easier to manage. You're hoping transactions will remain consistent and proportional and NEITHER are guaranteed, mate.
It can look intimidating but you mostly have like 5-8 buttons you press regularly, and then a lot of situational ones that you only need at certain times. Like a button to get sprint temporarily, a button to raise defense momentarily, etc. Chance here is also playing a Druid, who get a ton of healing moves in addition to fighting ones also, so that bloats up his button count too
@@Vastatio as a casual that only plays a few hours a day, I'm telling you shit looks hella long and complicated lol, just all the abilities on the screen alone is a turn off because I know imma have to learn all that
I feel like soda still loves WoW but can’t play it on stream due to how unpopular it is and because of the other games he’s playing for his audience. Plus, yeah the game isn’t in the best state rn.
told him he wasnt going to be just a stun bot .......proceeds to use him to stun
This is fucking hilarious coming off the last video 🤣
Soda+Mitch arenas will never get old.
Mitch really is that dude. Soda read him like a book to his own face
mitch is also super obnoxious and intolerable to me!
@@detextive8472 i dont think the dudes like, evil, but man is he absolutely predictable lol
@@detextive8472 yeah his voice and personality and the way he speaks and interrupts constantly is a bit pretentious and obnoxious. He’s always been this way tho. That’s why he went through all that shit he did by getting kicked out of multiple houses being sketch and losing every friend he had.
I like how Mitch is just tip-toeing around trying to not make Chance log off lol. reminds me of my brother
100% how I feel when my friends join me. Yall need gold? Who needs a summon? Please god play wow with me!!! LOL
Cmon we need Nick the Gladiator to get back. New viewers didn't know the hype of Chance and Nick duos during their peak, lol.
True
nick is the opposite of entertaining
@@Spitfyur honestly.
@@Spitfyur Nah, Nick ~7 yrs ago in wow together with Chance, Reckful, etc is chad and content. Probably if you only get to know Nick as PogO or Soyboy or Chance's caretaker like he is right now, then sure.
@@kapitantiago2805 nick was the least entertaining person always lmfao mitch chance and reckful were always the entertaining ones nick always been a pogo weird take andy
theyre doing 42-0 so first they have to tank rating to 1000 which is why they are leaving matches. You get a leaver penalty if you leave an arena early and havent done any damage to the enemy team.
thank you for saving me from my confusion
but they do deal damage before they leave
@@r1reis yeah ehs saying if you leave before doing dmg you will get a deserter debuff and cant reque right away
@@vincentperrino2591 but why are they doing damage and leaving right after?
@@r1reis no not get a debuff that stops them from requeing like dodging a game in league
Old Soda FeelsStrongMan
Legend has it that even to this day, chance is still playing arena with mitch while complaining that the game has nothing to do.
It do be that way. Mitch will never know how good he had it :( wasted potential
this is the content that i desired so long, mitch and chance together is such a awesome comp
its actually quite easy to get to 250ilvl with 4pc and legys, the backup qualities were improved a lot
Im happy for rat, its been 7 years since he last had fun playing arcane
Is that what it called?
I never play WOW
I love it cuz mitch sounds exactly like me trying to convince my friends to play this soul sucking chore fest again just for arenas cuz i love them sadge
"Soul sucking chorefest" very accurate for the past like 3xpacs
Once classic released I had no reason to go back. Old wow pvp is superior in every way & with wotlk around the corner it'll be even better. New Spyro xpac is gonna have to be straight up tits in my face to get me away from wotlk.
@@Magetastic69 theres even more soul sucking chores you have to do in classic pvp lmfao i have to do pve to get bis trinkets and shit fuck that noise lmfao
@@Magetastic69 bruuuuuuu. You about to send me to icu with that comment lmao.
I fell asleep watching this. I had a dream during my slumber. I dreamt that i fell asleep.
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED!!
You're the first WoW streamer I started watching , I remember you and Nick first meeting in the airport ❤️. So happy too see you on this game even for a few hours
Nice touch adding the old yellow border for the thumbnail! Feels super nostalgic
I wish I could turn Mitch down to .75 speed. It was cool seeing them do arenas though.
listening to rap helps
@@TheFubz Haha I'll try that next time.
Why do you think they use to call xqc scuffed mitch jones
you can
why are they killing one and then leaving?? someone explain pls
Same I'm very confused
2 tank their mmr so they have easier games. 2 be able 2 win 42 games in a row making it 42-0 =420 xD
@@porre4366 ohh.. so litteraly no strat xD
they are losing rating on purpose to start at ~0 MMR
"Why did you mention TORGHAST? are you trying to make him log off?"
No one likes Torghast
I love how the thumbnail looks like the ones you used to make on MoP days
protect soda at all cost
I watch those 2 since their start, i could watch them play wow all day long. Makes me love the game, chill gaming talks etc. No politics and "psychology" and shit
FOR THE PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND.
THEY ARE LEAVING THE GAMES EARLY BECAUSE THEY ARE TANKING (LOWERING) THEIR MMR (RANKING) SO THE GAMES ARE EASIER IN THE LONG RUN / THEY PLAY WORSE PLAYERS AT LOWER MMR.
EVENTUALLY THEY WILL TRY TO GO 42-0. (42 WINS 0 LOSSES) AND ALSO MEANS 420 BLAZE IT SWAG YOLO
even the old thumbnail border FeelsGoodMan
damn the old school thumbnail too this is crazy
Soda is so cute I just want to pat him on the head and tell him he's a good boi
“We need casuals” proceeds to one shot casuals… “why do no casuals play?”
WoW won't be going F2P, if anything it will be included in the game pass which is still a subscription service but cheaper and also grants you access to a vast library of other games, so all in all it's still a much better option than the current.
I didnt notice this vid was released an hr ago, im just going through his videos again
Honestly really miss you playing and enjoying arenas. This was like watching Jardio play Overwatch
"I almost /AFK'ed I forgot were Winning" - Sodapoppin
Thumbnail gives old soda vibes
"i send a deagle through the zone... i missed it"
trolling in arenas wud be nice like dem old days
As a casual when seeing THIS, I instantly know why I as a casual never wanted to play arena. Like what balance is this? Some friend with cracked gear just one shots you... peak gameplay.
nah 90% of these players were one shotted because they didn't expect it. although when playing against someone like mitch or any of these guys most people that are't very experienced themselves almost definitely will not win but thats because these people are genuinely good players not the gear.
To be honest my go to streamers were Chance, Hotted, Switfy and Bajhera. I miss the days they were all around. I remember doing pvp with sensei Taz when he was at the gaming house of swifties. No matter what they do I hope they suceed.
"theyre already rich, they have overwatch" lol'd
"Dude just play with me this is gonna be so fun" - makes him stun once and leave the game lmao. I can see why he's so bored.
Glad to see u back in the arena scene;)
i cant tell if its funny or sad watching the complete desperation mitch has wanting soda to play the game
Its sad
ah the good old days...
Increase the copium to 100%
Legit fun to watch these 2 guys, great energy
Blizz needs to make WoW F2P.. but you have to pay a sub in order to access the latest tier of content. I feel like that is a decent middle-ground, and would bring more players, AND more money.
The Ammount of COPIUM in this vid is unreal
Graycen is still sad about being back to back farmed by chanimal
Free to play up-to level 20 currently, they could bump that up-to 10 levels under the current expansion.
Awesome to see you back in wow. And yes i watch multiple streamers but i watch you for the longest and sometimes i watch your stream with my wife together. So yes your the number 1 streamer in my list. Keep up the content love it 😃👍🏻
"he must eb streaming huh" so telling mitch only cares about boosting his viewers and doesn't actually talk to soda outside of that
Free to play, with purchasable expansions. Not a bad idea. If you don't have the most recent xpac, you just stay in the prior xpac.
thumbnail made me look at the upload date
When you guys were talking about “copying asmongold.” I was like you know what do it, do a tmog comp with your viewers I’d like to see what your take is on things like tmog or mount offs at that matter.
Why are they leaving the game? Can someone explain?
I have trouble falling asleep, thanks to this I finally started sleeping again!
Chance, chance, chance, chance,
Stun, stun, stun, stun, stun, stun,
Please breathe
if they went free to play, it would be 10x worse. They'd probably introduce battle pass, which willl give you fomo from out of space if you don't get it.
Ummmm...
If the game went free to play I probably still wouldnt buy mounts or cosmetic but I wouldnt mind if Other people did rather then being pissed off every time I see one. It would instantly switch my mindset because now thats their model
Mitch needs to get his unity Lego to 291 😂
Ironically I stopped watching soda after he stopped playing wow. he was one of the first streamers I watched non stop, because I loved how he sht on nubs and won gold from scrubs. So its the opposite for me. The age of wow is coming back.
I miss Soda's wow content.
free to play is the death of an mmo
I LOVE Wow. I don't play WoW simply because you still need to play a subs monthly in 2000 fucking 22. Mitch is ttly right.
Who was the 3rd person chatting with them?
The Copium is real in this Video for sure xD
Imagine, wanting to play WoW just to get one shot in Arena, yeah definitly fun to play this game xD
They were playing players with no gear - me and my team matched them with mediocre gear and didn’t have an issue with their own shot setup. That being said definitely a burst meta.
@@iroflsohard Still. Not a fun experience at all. Shadowlands was full with classes which were capable to oneshot people- Retri paladin for example. I played shadowlands even arena and above 2000 rating and it wasn't fun going against those classes at all. I don't know how people still can say that this is "fun"
The copium is thinking any mmo is anything more than cookie clicker with 10 year old graphics and a half baked pvp system.
@@andresnyman580 It's more of hoping an game that was good at some point goes back to exactly this point and thinking to themself that. You maybe think WoW is good but it has lost so much potential to what it was before
I believe, making WOW as F2P is pretty terrible idea. I remember back in the day when I started to play, what surprised me is how the WOW community was different(in a good way) in comparison to DOTA for instance(and other F2P games), which was inundated with braindead 11-13yo kids who were fooling around and ruin everything.
the thing is these older games are too scared to go f2p.
but the funny thing is ive spent more money on warframe or league than i ever have on any paid game.
i think ive spent less on the COD franchise (bought every game from mw2-MW2019) than i have on league alone.
fortnite has been the biggest game for years now and made multiples more money of what other paid games have
also genshin, a f2p(but gacha) game made the most money of any game in 2021.
companies arent just scared to go f2p but they also dont know how to even monetize it properly.
everythin mitchjones say he say it twice
I have been missing this for yearssssssss!!!!
yo chance are you having fun stunning? LMAO
I am so bad at wow.
I haven't played in years, what are they doing that is so effective?
"oh my god i won the arena by accident"
i miss arena content
Mitch clearly has no clue how companies get their fundings lmao
I only ever watched soda when it came to live streaming
Oh man wow is so bad right now, really hope they can fix it in the new expac.
can someone explain to me why chance is logging every time one person dies?
they're tanking rating down because they know arcane doesnt work above like 1500-1600 MMR lol
Lowering his rank by leaving the games, they lose so they go low on ranking, like losing in league to go down to bronze so they can try and do 42-0 and not get matched with good players for a while, so basically trying to "smurf" the first 20 or so games so its not extremely hard to win 42 in a row
@@taothor and why not just play good at the start?. like is having 42/0 somehow better then winning with 90% chance anyways?
@@CuddleUTube yes it is, they’ve been doing 42-0 sessions since 2013-2014
Lol mitch Jones bullied you into it 🤣
Damn old thumbnail from the wow days FeelsStrongMan
they would have more casuals if it didnt take 200+ hours to finish storyline
so can someone explain to me why it is kill one person then leave the arena? doesnt that count as a loss? i play wow but not pvp
They’re going for a streak not W/L. They’re just tanking rating before they start their counter. Going 40+ wins no losses very difficult with high rating.
Their official win losses for this stream is probably around 42-30. But they don’t start counting until after their first win.
@@akaiye ah hell yeah, thank you man, I was fucking lost. My best guess was just trying to stay at a certain rating
Its impossible to wow pvp become casual friendly with the gear gap, if someone dont give up farming his honor set in BGs hes gonna quit when he faces full gear ppl in 1600+...
Mitch bringing fun to the times but damn he has the business knowledge of like a stoned 16 year old. Even Soda is like "dude, that's their primary revenue system for the entire game...."
good to see some arenas, but I do agree with soda that this sucks to watch for pvp
Nah Mitch definitely has a point. A lot of people are put off by $15 a month but will play or try the game if it’s free. More people playing is more people who realize they like the game and start buying mounts, WoW tokens, etc. The biggest factor in showing the power of the cash shop is to just look at WoW’s revenue. Notice how WoW continues to make more money while clearly losing subscribers. That and the plenty of insanely successful F2P games such as Genshin show that the power of getting people in the door first and then trying to peddle them some cosmetics second works better than charging at the gate.
@@TheAckeePlant consistent ARR is better than micro transactions.
Beyond that, the players who join wouldn't necessarily have money for significant transactions over time. If they play for 6 months and buy 1 or 2 things, Blizzard is lowkey losing.
There's a big shift when something goes F2P.
Realistically, it would make sense for Classic to be F2P and Retail to be the premium and ongoing game as a service
@@ThexInsidexMan They would use the increase in player count to increase those interacting with the cash shop to offset the loss subscription revenue. Whales make most of the money and the more fishing lines you have out to catch them through making the game free to try the better. This in addition to making the game more available such as a console port and WoW could more than likely increase both popularity and by association revenue, as Mitch points out
@@TheAckeePlant no, because you're absolutely not accounting for increased expenses of managing more accounts, servers, etc.
The game having less players that pay consistently is significantly easier to manage.
You're hoping transactions will remain consistent and proportional and NEITHER are guaranteed, mate.
OMG, in what universe is any of this "fun". No wonder people leave this game in droves.
I don't think this game was even made for casuals, ive never played but it looks sooo complicated lol
Smooth brain, the game has been becoming more and more casual focused with each expansion. Last few expansions have been afk simulators.
It’s honestly been dumbed down a bit, casuals should have no problem.
It can look intimidating but you mostly have like 5-8 buttons you press regularly, and then a lot of situational ones that you only need at certain times. Like a button to get sprint temporarily, a button to raise defense momentarily, etc. Chance here is also playing a Druid, who get a ton of healing moves in addition to fighting ones also, so that bloats up his button count too
@@Vastatio as a casual that only plays a few hours a day, I'm telling you shit looks hella long and complicated lol, just all the abilities on the screen alone is a turn off because I know imma have to learn all that
@@TheAckeePlant okay that makes sense, I just said on another comment that all the abilities is kinda a turn off, but that does make it sound better
First Swifty comes back and now chance?! What?!
If WoW goes free to play the amount of bots will be incredible
the king
RETURNZZZ
Can’t take the WoW out of a rank 1
why does mitch tell soda to leave the game as soon as he kills one
why they leave after one kill?
What is the point to leaving after 1 kill in a 2v2 arena? I don’t do arenas so I have literally no clue
Thier free to play talk makes me so happy blizzard sucks at listening to feedback, these guys would destroy the entire game with their ideas
"Next Xpac is Gonna Be Good" Ends up being worse then sl
Not gonna lie this was good content
If you thought bots were bad wait until wow goes f2p. Take a look at lost ark. Most players are bots.
Just ban bots, captcha on login screen and ban the IP
@@avinion Dynamic IPs (Ip addresses that change)exist and captchas can just be done by the person running the bot.
best video in a while btw
Its sad that almost all hardcore wow fans are in a deep denial.
"They are blizzard they don't need money"
Dude you don't know economy.
DONT LEAVE
blizz should go f2p and have like 50% exp buff, 50% honor buff /month subscription. ; and transmog gear $
I feel like soda still loves WoW but can’t play it on stream due to how unpopular it is and because of the other games he’s playing for his audience.
Plus, yeah the game isn’t in the best state rn.
Cap. He clearly doesn’t except for maybe nostalgia you get when you play a game you used to play. The game is boring af atm.
never have watched or played wow but love the steams and vods