@@MilkyWay-nq1fk I agree, inquiring about the political landscape is random as shit. Secondly, the moment I see political statements in the comments I'm usually out. Its really slippery slope. But yeah... what a bizarre out of context question. 🤔😒
On that dark November day in 1975, the Witch of November made her choice as to which ship she would take to the bottom of Lake Superior. It was the big Fitz and her entire crew. Yet the Witch of November was kind enough to spare the Aurthur M. Anderson and William Clay Ford the same nightmarish fate.
Both of which had much better histories of maintenance. If you read the shipwreck reports, both the Coast Guard and the Lake Carriers Association acknowledge poor maintenance and leaking hatch covers a year before she sank...
Yup, the Ford was the sister ship to the Anderson. I never understood how only the Fitz went down and not the Anderson or even the Ford. The Anderson went through the same exact waves that later passed on to the Fitzgerald. It’s still good that we still have the pilothouse of the Ford still here.
@@Kris-qy7hh As Spafford points out, they didn't go down because they had been properly maintained, and didn't have several leaking hatch covers. Had the Fitzgerald been properly maintained, it would almost certainly have survived the storm.
@@MikeInPlano Also, the Fitz's radar failed, and the maps aboard it had an inaccuracy concerning Caribou Island... where the Fitzgerald passed far too close to. A common theory suggests that she may have struck one of the shallow rock formations there near the bow, which would explain why her fence snapped. A breach of the hull would also explain why her pumps (14,000 gallons/min combined) couldn't keep her from taking on water; they were designed to handle a blown hatch or two, but not a breached hull.
@Tødd the withered Føx The Fitzgerald famously never sent an SOS. In fact, its last transmission was to assure the Anderson that she was "holding our own."
I'm in New Zealand and learned what little I know of Lake Superior/Gitche Gumee is, as a thirteen year old, I heard Gordon Lightfoot's ballad, _The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald_ . I am now nearly fifty-six years old, and I can relate that story to so many in my own country, different tragedies but men and women killed as of a result of making money for rich men who don't go out and put themselves in harms way. To see this massive maiden named Arthur M Anderson, still doing her job after all this time, is simply wonderful. The stories she and her many and varied crews could tell.
It's interesting that all these years later they have not been forgotten. And the Arthur M Anderson sails on, reminding us of that night every time we see her.
I never worked on these lake freighters so I'm not going to offer an opinion as to what happened on something I know nothing about. My father did though for CSL but he was a man of few words and never talked much about it. I remember as a kid how worried my mother was every time he would be on Superior during a storm. I do know it took a lot of guts to go back out into that raging sea.. Great ship, brave crew
Today is the 45th anniversary since that vicious storm sunk Arthur M Anderson's big sister Edmund Fitzgerald. The crew of the mighty Fitz did not go down without a fight. Rest in peace to the 29 men aboard the Edmund Fitzgerald you will not be forgotten. 🚢
It is the most beautiful of the Great Lakes, but also the most temperamental. It claimed the Edmund Fitzgerald in 1975 and many other ships throughout history. Always give these amazing bodies of water the upmost respect.
Summer of 76 I sailed with US Steel as a deckhand. The other 2 deckhands were on the Anderson during that storm. They told me they all just sat in their quarters with lifejackets on waiting to die.
The Fitzgerald had some damage to locking hatches prior to fateful trip that turned out to be a factor on her last voyage. The huge following seas caused by hurricane winds produced a set of 25 to 40 foot waves that caught the Fitz on a down cycle in the waves, & the extra weight caused by water coming in from compromised hatches was the difference. She was probably started on a downward trajectory & couldnt recover. Probably hit bottom & broke apart. The crew didn't know what hit them, still a terrible way to go.
I know. It has a very eerie feeling to it. It's actually like this ship knows a secret that is still, in many ways, a mystery to the rest of the world.
@@alaricdogface I know we get so caught up in "this ship should be preserved" or "that ship should be preserved" but I truly hope Anderson is made into a museum once her sailing days are over
Gordon Lightfoot's song was full of inaccuracies. He just rewrote the lyrics because too many people complained more so the families and Sailors hall in Detroit.
She ain't the oldest. Wilfred Sykes (was also involved in the search for Fitz) launched in 1949, and St. Mary's Challenger gave up her engine at the age of 107--and she's STILL working the lakes (as a barge).
IM FROM THE BEAUITFUL STATE OF MICHIGAN MY FATHER HAD A 20 FOOT TRIMARAN THAT HE BUILT HIMSELF I'VE BEEN VERY BLESSED TO SAIL EACH AN EVERYONE OF THESE BEAUITFUL LAKES WITH MY FATHER SWAM IN 4/5 LAKE SUPERIOR IS JUST TO COLD FOR ME AND UNPREDICTABLE SHE IS YOU COULD BE IN AN AREA AND CALM AS CAN BE GO A MILE DIWN SHIRE AND SHE WOULD BE BLOWING WAVES OVER THE WALKOUT PEIR AND THE LITTLE BOATS TIED UP ON THE INLET WOULD JUST BE THRASHING AROUND I RESPECT EACH ONE OF THESE MAJASTIC BODIES OF WATER FOR YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT....BUT THEY HAVE GAVE ME AND MY FATHER BEAUITFUL MEMORIES THAT ARE IRREPLACEABLE...APRIL Hill
FANTASTIC video - thank you for posting. It is amazing to see such a big boat, in such choppy surf, in such a narrow canal, with no tug-escorts. It would be really east to f-up, and hit the concrete embankments!
@Joe B I sailed merchant marine on ocean for 20 years including the Bering and North Atlantic. I moved to the Great Lakes and sailed for another 20 years. If you have never sailed winter on the Lakes then you would be in for a surprise. It gets pretty unpleasant. No bathtub. I know seas get higher in the Bering - I spent 6 years working there, but a 20 to 30 foot sea on Lake Superior is very similar to the same size sea on the Bering - close together and steep.
@Joe B The worst weather that I went through was North Atlantic south of Newfoundland - 50 to 60 foot seas....and I was on a 210' anchor handling vessel. Really thought that we were dead. Ironically, one of the rigs that we had been working around, the Ocean Ranger, capsized the following year with the loss of the entire crew.
hansikatz Erie can be nasty... too shallow, I remember hitting bottom in the trough of each wave... very disconcerting. The worst I was in was down bound from Thunder Bay in December on the old Ralph Misener.
When a gale blows on Lake Erie the seas can build to 12-15 foot or she can "turn bottom side up" if the gale is a Nor' Easter. She's a nasty bitch that can turn on you in a heart beat and send you to the bottom. Erie is the shallowest of the Great Lakes and that makes her dangerous.
crazy to think that Erie can be more dangerous than Superior being how much smaller and that its the most shallow great lake, not saying it isn't possible, just hard to believe.
Goodness..this looks more like the North sea or North Atlantic between the Uk and Iceland than any lake i've ever seen. Watching from Wales, Uk. Liked.
@@hansikatz No one has ever called it/them that though. They are always referred to as lakes, even though they may have some of the characteristics of an inland sea.
@@garethifan1034 Actually they were often referred in the media as the Inland Seas often in the 19th and early 20th centuries. I have an old magazine somewhere which was titled Inland Seas. With seas up to near 10 meters and a (very small) tidal effect, lakes just doesn't do them justice.
I remember seeing the Anderson come into Indiana Harbor a lot along with the Wilfred Sykes, bringing ore and limestone for former Inland Steel in the mid 2000s since I work there. I don't work by the docks anymore since I transferred to the BOF So I don't get a chance to see what vessels come into the harbor anymore. Think I'll take my camera and make a point to go there
She went through the same possible rogue wave that buried Fitzgerald, but she popped back up. But she was not overweight, not under maintained, and not shaky at the keel joint, and not piloted by a 'rough weather' captain. In fact, if she was by herself that day in 1975, cooper would have hugged the coast or even put her in a cove but he was following the wild one. (opinion based on youtube videos, I wasn't there)
What the crews of the Anderson and the William Clay Ford did on that November night in 1975 was beyond heroic, they were safe but they risked their lives and their ships to try and find their fellow sailors and bring them back to safety. The William Clay Ford was scrapped,hopefully they will preserve the Anderson when her hauling days are done. I know that there are much bigger and newer boats on the Great Lakes but this is the one I would want to see most of all if I had the chance to visit the lakes.
ARTHUR M ANDERSON. I remember reading about ship. Both were in the same vicious storm one night in 1975 on Lake Superior just miles away from Edmund Fitzgerald. The Anderson survived the storm Fitzgerald didn't.
Always a lot of emotion seeing those big cargo ships leaving the harbors. Slowly, but inexorably, it seems like nothing can stop them. And each time the trip is an adventure. Inside the great lakes, they are kind of captive, but when you see them leaving sea harbors, you can imagine them going to a very a distant destination, maybe on the other side of the planet. I love that :)
Inthe 80s I worked as night guard at a building on the Milwaukee mooring basin, when US Steel owned her she laid up there along with her sisters Calloway and Clarke Blough Gott and Speer
My dad was a Great Lakes sailor when I was a kid... I 've spent a lot of time on the North Shore & in Duluth. I live in the Southwest now..but I miss that lake & love those boats.
So he's still around, huh? In recent times I've become more and more fascinated by the Fitzgerald's tragic tale. This ship and its crew at that time were next level lucky. Respect to both groups and both vessels: may the Anderson carry Big Fitz's legend forever more.
Given the history of this ship, it'd take a storm nastier than the 11-10-75 for the Anderson to have trouble. I'd imagine there's also a legendary captain watching over her, too, and the spirit of Cooper will remain in command.
You would think that the Edmund Fitz could withstand a nastier storm than 11-10-75, too. And you might think that I bucket like I was on, the Georg Goebels, would sink in a storm like that. But we didn't.
MickeyYahoo When you're running a ship maybe 75-80% against the conditions the night the Fitz sank, they had no chance. They ran that ship ragged and it wasn't fully repaired.
fallguye6011 - I agree. I think greed sunk the Fitz. Large cash bonuses were given to Officers at the end of the season & McSorley wanted his big time. I hold him & O.N. responsible. They “hid” the Homer until they could scrap it in 1986. Clever.
"They"? Bethlehem made the mistake of lengthening the Homer, which aggravated the problem. They tried to sell her, but it was the big 80's downturn and nobody wanted to waste money on her. Note the Jackson is still going.
I just love the great lakes ships!!! Vicious lakes when they want to be. There's something like 6000 ships sunk all over the bottom and god knows how many souls lost their lifes.
I love the Anderson. Captain Cooper remains my all-time favorite hero. But people tend to forget that there were two ships that returned to the fury of the storm that night, to search for survivors. Captain Don Erickson and the William Clay Ford, with a willing crew, went out with the Anderson. Captain Erickson didn't want to go, any more than Captain Cooper did, but they went. There were something like 15 ships in harbor that night, and only these two agreed to search. Others joined later, but only the Anderson and the Ford returned to the worst of it. Brave Captains and crews. Both of them. Legendary ships. Both of them. The Ford's contribution shouldn't be overlooked.
I got to see her up close a few years ago when she was at the limestone quarry just outside of Rogers City. My family was on a fossil hunting excursion at the quarry and I was so pleasantly surprised to see it there. I may have been one of the few in our large group that knew about her history. I've been reading the comments and I'm sorry to read she may never be a working ship again. Hopefully her owners will manage to get her sailing the lakes again.
The Anderson and the Fitz. Seeing one always makes me think of the other. Can't help but think if the Fitz would still be sailing today if it wasn't for that November nite.....
It would be in a museum If arrogant McSorely had the respect for Superior he should have had that night. All day in port he was getting severe storm maritime updates and should have known better. He cost the company its cash cow and more importantly 28 other men their lives.Did,nt have to happen.
@@alaricdogface That may not be true. The Fitz sister ship Homer was scrapped because of her hull design, a design shared with the Fits. There were serious issues with the hull forming gaps from the keel. I think its part of the reason she floundered that night.
@@jamesvw769 they were going to reinforce the hull that winter. In fact the plates are still sitting at Fraser Shipyard in Superior. Whether that would have been enough to overcome the design flaws I don't know.
Really enjoy all your videos. I had a career in flying but being a Mariner wasn't far from my mind. I love all the interesting history on these lakers.
And to think this ship was on Lake Superior the same very night the Big Fitz was lost. This ship got hammered as well, and, yet, it survived. Those Grest Lakes storms, when they crop up, are nothin to mess around with, they are dangerous.
@@alaricdogface Yes, along with the William Clay Ford. Even though her ship's master was at first reluctant to go, when down to his cabin and reconsidered his decision and pulled anchor and set sail back into the dangerous storm waters in search of survivors of the Big Fitz.
If the anderson had lost her radar like the fitz she too woulda went down.Mc sorely was sailing blind in 96 mph winds and 50 ft waves and the Anderson could have easily followrd the fitz down had she shoaled like the fitz did.
Superior is so cold that people in the town used to have summer homes three blocks over on the lake. The cold air from the lake made natural air conditioning. It is called the lake effect. I am just an interested Georgia resident here, I have seen Lake Michigan and was fascinated. I am planning to visit Lake Superior. We have big cargo vessels come by here in Savannah, but if the vessel sank the crew would just swim ashore and get a frozen drink. You sink up there you die.
@@sarasmith5110 Thats why they say Superior never gives up its dead , the water is too cold for microbes to to grow and make a body float to the surface . When you sink there you stay sunk .
@@jmac5058 I did not know that, how fascinating. I went out on a narrow dock on a bay on Lake Michigan. I realized the support posts were telephone poles and I was at the top of one looking down at the water. That is how deep it was. There were one or two big boats still moored. This was October. i got the worst panic attack and almost could not come back in, the dock was shifting and swaying with the boats and it had no handrails. I was scared to death over that little thing, but I did make it back. I do not know if I would have the nerve to get out on a boat on any of the great lakes.
+TheKilroyman she won't be in service in 2018. She's in well im sad to say Permanet layup now 5,000,000 dollars in damage done to her hull and the munson got repowered to diesel so i don't think she will be in service until they get enough money to repair her. :-(
Sad to say it might be the end of her glory days or even sailing. And also the ryerson is laid up because she can't self unload so theres no reason to bring her out unless iron ore prices sky rocket. So it may be the end of the ryerson and anderson :'(
They go up with the spring melt and then come back down over the summer. Levels rose almost 2 feet over the course of the last decade though, returning the lakes to their 1970s and 80s levels.
looks nothing like the Fitz, i worked on the Arther B. Homer, sister ship of the Fitz, the Homer was dry-docked and was cut in half and 90 feet were added to her hull, after the Fitz sank, to me, that makes her more vulnerable to break in half. but Anderson looks nothing like the Fitz
+alaricdogface i heard she is in permanet layup. She probably wont be repaired because they just converted a ship to diesel ( John G.Munson) if GLF gets enough money then they might repair her or this could mean the breakers yard
Not terrible just flawed.Had she not been pushed and abused so hard she coulda been still afloat but major repairs were pushed back and jury rigged to keep her running and making the greedy owners rich.Damn shame cuz she deserves a spot in the smithosonian not on the bottom of lake superior with her faithful crew.
I do hope that Anderson and Ryerson are made into museum ships. My idea would be to cut there bow sections off after 4th hatch cover and land lock bow sections turn them in too great lake shipping museum. then scrap the aft sections of the ships. I would love to see such a museum in my city of Buffalo ny. Such a museum complex would go nice right next too naval museum already there with the navy destroyer and cruiser there already.
That's what they did to the William Clay Ford. Her btidge over looks one of the Great Lakes. The William Clay Ford was one of the ships involved in rescue maneuvers when the Big Fitz went down.
The ship and it's crew were the last to ever see the Edmund Fitzgerald before Lake Superior claimed the Fitzgerald as hers.
Actually, it was the Otter Island lighthouse keeper, Bill Wougweleeuw. He watched them both go past.
I saw the Anderson enter Holland channel years back not knowing it went to look for the Fitz. These waves are just ripples compared to Nov. 1974.
My grandfather was on that ride....
November 1975 is when the Fitz sunk
that ship is longer than the town i live in
At least you probably don't get lost much.
@@thomasdaniels6824 that was the most random and off topic question ever lmao
@@MilkyWay-nq1fk I agree, inquiring about the political landscape is random as shit. Secondly, the moment I see political statements in the comments I'm usually out. Its really slippery slope. But yeah... what a bizarre out of context question. 🤔😒
Lol
The Fitzgerald was longer
On that dark November day in 1975, the Witch of November made her choice as to which ship she would take to the bottom of Lake Superior. It was the big Fitz and her entire crew. Yet the Witch of November was kind enough to spare the Aurthur M. Anderson and William Clay Ford the same nightmarish fate.
Both of which had much better histories of maintenance. If you read the shipwreck reports, both the Coast Guard and the Lake Carriers Association acknowledge poor maintenance and leaking hatch covers a year before she sank...
Yup, the Ford was the sister ship to the Anderson. I never understood how only the Fitz went down and not the Anderson or even the Ford. The Anderson went through the same exact waves that later passed on to the Fitzgerald. It’s still good that we still have the pilothouse of the Ford still here.
@@Kris-qy7hh As Spafford points out, they didn't go down because they had been properly maintained, and didn't have several leaking hatch covers. Had the Fitzgerald been properly maintained, it would almost certainly have survived the storm.
MikeInPlano indeed.
@@MikeInPlano Also, the Fitz's radar failed, and the maps aboard it had an inaccuracy concerning Caribou Island... where the Fitzgerald passed far too close to. A common theory suggests that she may have struck one of the shallow rock formations there near the bow, which would explain why her fence snapped. A breach of the hull would also explain why her pumps (14,000 gallons/min combined) couldn't keep her from taking on water; they were designed to handle a blown hatch or two, but not a breached hull.
That ol girl has seen some shit...
Great lakes respect
Lol
Cream Machine ☆☆☆yes.....she really has!!!😔😔😔
@Tødd the withered Føx Don't think the Fitz sent any sos calls.
@Tødd the withered Føx the captain on the Fitz said my fence is down and I have a lisp. But we are holding our own. Last commutation from the Fitz.
@Tødd the withered Føx The Fitzgerald famously never sent an SOS. In fact, its last transmission was to assure the Anderson that she was "holding our own."
Never scrap this ship, US Steel! She's historic!
yes used to ARM come through Flats in CLE
死亡疤痕
You didn’t hear?
She’s coming back!
US steel has changed its name to Great Lakes Fleet inc.
Jared Axton
Owned by Canadian National Railway and operated by Key Lakes inc. of the US
The ANDERSON is owned by Great lakes Fleet, it has the owner's name right underneath the vessel's name
I'm in New Zealand and learned what little I know of Lake Superior/Gitche Gumee is, as a thirteen year old, I heard Gordon Lightfoot's ballad, _The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald_ . I am now nearly fifty-six years old, and I can relate that story to so many in my own country, different tragedies but men and women killed as of a result of making money for rich men who don't go out and put themselves in harms way. To see this massive maiden named Arthur M Anderson, still doing her job after all this time, is simply wonderful. The stories she and her many and varied crews could tell.
It's interesting that all these years later they have not been forgotten. And the Arthur M Anderson sails on, reminding us of that night every time we see her.
Gitche gumee comes from native Americans who call it big sea water
I never worked on these lake freighters so I'm not going to offer an opinion as to what happened on something I know nothing about. My father did though for CSL but he was a man of few words and never talked much about it. I remember as a kid how worried my mother was every time he would be on Superior during a storm. I do know it took a lot of guts to go back out into that raging sea.. Great ship, brave crew
I imagine everyone who has sailed the big lake has had some white knuckle moments
Too many logistics to mention. I feel mariners are real life super heroes and deserve respect. Thank you for your devotion.
Mariners have been doing it since the dawn of man. It takes a special breed.
The ole girl is ready for paint. Great lakes jewel. Keeper moving
She got her paint job and is still going strong
Today is the 45th anniversary since that vicious storm sunk Arthur M Anderson's big sister Edmund Fitzgerald. The crew of the mighty Fitz did not go down without a fight.
Rest in peace to the 29 men aboard the Edmund Fitzgerald you will not be forgotten. 🚢
Amen.
Amen rest in peace
It is the most beautiful of the Great Lakes, but also the most temperamental. It claimed the Edmund Fitzgerald in 1975 and many other ships throughout history. Always give these amazing bodies of water the upmost respect.
Well said.
0:55 Still calling out for her long lost friend :(
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Summer of 76 I sailed with US Steel as a deckhand. The other 2 deckhands were on the Anderson during that storm. They told me they all just sat in their quarters with lifejackets on waiting to die.
And then they went back out to search. That's the thing that really amazes me.
I love how iron ore carriers of this design look so beautiful and powerful and majestic blessings from Martinsville Indiana
Yes I love the classic lakers. Greetings from Duluth Minnesota!
Great lakes:YOUR GONNA FEEL MY WRATH!!!
Arthur M Anderson: that's cute.
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More like: Hold my beer
@@BonnieDragonKat Arthur's got this!
@@alaricdogface WELL HELL YEAH !!
@@jeffgraham436 sounds like your mom.🤣🤣🤣
The Anderson she rode out the waves that took down the Fitz. A true legend!
Legendary ship, legendary crew
The Fitzgerald had some damage to locking hatches prior to fateful trip that turned out to be a factor on her last voyage. The huge following seas caused by hurricane winds produced a set of 25 to 40 foot waves that caught the Fitz on a down cycle in the waves, & the extra weight caused by water coming in from compromised hatches was the difference. She was probably started on a downward trajectory & couldnt recover. Probably hit bottom & broke apart. The crew didn't know what hit them, still a terrible way to go.
Had the Anderson been in place of the Fitz, she wouldve survived, the hatch cover was the main problem.
She is a legend
i was sitting on belle isle and seen the Arthur Andersen go buy. Knowing the story, it was like i was seeing a ghost. couldn't believe it.
Todd ... Arthur has had a lot of alterations since then ... including the addition of the unloading gear
Saw her up by the Sault almost 30 years ago. Felt the same way
I know. It has a very eerie feeling to it. It's actually like this ship knows a secret that is still, in many ways, a mystery to the rest of the world.
Does the Dossin Museum still have the bridge from the William Clay Ford? The other ship that searched for the Fitz that night.
Lived in Duluth in the mid 70's, and I learned to have a lot of respect for Ma Nature up there, because she's not kidding around!
She sure isn't!!
I lived there then too. Went to Grant Elementary and St Jeans
What a massive ship - so long and graceful. Hope they had a safe trip.❤
Yep! And they're back in port right now.
Saw this wonderful ship in 2001 such a memorable moment
She was here on Thursday and I was really happy to see her again.
Most Mariners say they'd rather weather a storm on the salt water oceans than a fall or winter gale on superior.
I've heard that too. Can't survive in frigid water.
What a beautiful ship
The classic laker.
Hello there old gal! Much love to you!!!!
She may be an old girl, but she's absolutely beautiful
She will look really good when she sails again!
@@alaricdogface I know we get so caught up in "this ship should be preserved" or "that ship should be preserved" but I truly hope Anderson is made into a museum once her sailing days are over
@@seadav0183 She should be good for at least another 5 years after this round of repairs are done. After that - who knows...
@@alaricdogface Here's hoping they take care of her
To all rookies this is the ship that was trailing the Edmund Fitzgerald, when the Fitz was lost. Light foots song is true.
Wow, she's had a long life!!
Remember this ships spend there whole lives in fresh water so they don't corrode nearly as quickly as an ocean going ship
Gordon Lightfoot's song was full of inaccuracies. He just rewrote the lyrics because too many people complained more so the families and Sailors hall in Detroit.
She ain't the oldest. Wilfred Sykes (was also involved in the search for Fitz) launched in 1949, and St. Mary's Challenger gave up her engine at the age of 107--and she's STILL working the lakes (as a barge).
And changed what was probably the most accurate line in the song.
That is a never ending ship.
She was launched in 1952. Still Looking good old girl.
Still going strong!
Hero ship ... glad she's recently returned to the lakes. ♥️
Me too!
@@alaricdogface - doing what she does best - taking no shit from the choppy seas.
@@shariys1 Damn right!
I guess lake freighters last longer than seagoing ships because freshwater is less corrosive.
It sure makes a big difference.
The average life of an ocean going ship is 25 to 30yrs,But they operate 24-7 year round except for 5 yr inspection.
Absolutely. No barnacles or salt water to way down and corrode the keel of the ship.
IM FROM THE BEAUITFUL STATE OF MICHIGAN MY FATHER HAD A 20 FOOT TRIMARAN THAT HE BUILT HIMSELF I'VE BEEN VERY BLESSED TO SAIL EACH AN EVERYONE OF THESE BEAUITFUL LAKES WITH MY FATHER SWAM IN 4/5 LAKE SUPERIOR IS JUST TO COLD FOR ME AND UNPREDICTABLE SHE IS YOU COULD BE IN AN AREA AND CALM AS CAN BE GO A MILE DIWN SHIRE AND SHE WOULD BE BLOWING WAVES OVER THE WALKOUT PEIR AND THE LITTLE BOATS TIED UP ON THE INLET WOULD JUST BE THRASHING AROUND I RESPECT EACH ONE OF THESE MAJASTIC BODIES OF WATER FOR YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT....BUT THEY HAVE GAVE ME AND MY FATHER BEAUITFUL MEMORIES THAT ARE IRREPLACEABLE...APRIL Hill
With a load of iron ore 26,000 tons more.........carry on oh great one, carry on.❤️
you are right
FANTASTIC video - thank you for posting. It is amazing to see such a big boat, in such choppy surf, in such a narrow canal, with no tug-escorts. It would be really east to f-up, and hit the concrete embankments!
Sometimes boats will drop anchor and not come in when it is like this.
Wrath? Those were ground swells 5ftmax. Nov 10th 1975 there was 12 ft of water on the cargo deck. That my friend is wrath!
True, the wind let up a little when she went out that day and then picked back up. It got pretty bad.
@Joe B Darn it..that made me pucker up just reading that tale
@Joe B I sailed merchant marine on ocean for 20 years including the Bering and North Atlantic. I moved to the Great Lakes and sailed for another 20 years. If you have never sailed winter on the Lakes then you would be in for a surprise. It gets pretty unpleasant. No bathtub. I know seas get higher in the Bering - I spent 6 years working there, but a 20 to 30 foot sea on Lake Superior is very similar to the same size sea on the Bering - close together and steep.
@Joe B The worst weather that I went through was North Atlantic south of Newfoundland - 50 to 60 foot seas....and I was on a 210' anchor handling vessel. Really thought that we were dead. Ironically, one of the rigs that we had been working around, the Ocean Ranger, capsized the following year with the loss of the entire crew.
hansikatz Erie can be nasty... too shallow, I remember hitting bottom in the trough of each wave... very disconcerting. The worst I was in was down bound from Thunder Bay in December on the old Ralph Misener.
Mighty Lake Superior ... I bow to Thee with respect ... !
I fear Lake Erie more.
..I fished Lake Erie in the late 60's w/my dad and uncle..caught a lot of lake perch (little guys) but didn't see much of any wave action back then..
When a gale blows on Lake Erie the seas can build to 12-15 foot or she can "turn bottom side up" if the gale is a Nor' Easter. She's a nasty bitch that can turn on you in a heart beat and send you to the bottom. Erie is the shallowest of the Great Lakes and that makes her dangerous.
crazy to think that Erie can be more dangerous than Superior being how much smaller and that its the most shallow great lake, not saying it isn't possible, just hard to believe.
Yeah, mighty COLD Lake Superior!
What a mighty vessel!
She's a legend!
Do long distance charges apply when calling from the bridge to the stern quarters?
Amazing she is still in service despite being decades old
so odd to call Arthur a she. :)
No odder than Edmund, or Paul, or William, or Roger.
Freshwater instead of saltwater helps extend their lives.
jacob schweitzer 67 yrs on the lakes...entered service 1952
@@wendygoerl9162 - but then there's Lee and Kaye.
Goodness..this looks more like the North sea or North Atlantic between the Uk and Iceland than any lake i've ever seen. Watching from Wales, Uk.
Liked.
It's a big lake but nothing close to the waters you mention. 🌊🌊🌊
Not a lake really, as most people envision. It's a freshwater sea.
@@hansikatz No one has ever called it/them that though. They are always referred to as lakes, even though they may have some of the characteristics of an inland sea.
@@garethifan1034 Actually they were often referred in the media as the Inland Seas often in the 19th and early 20th centuries. I have an old magazine somewhere which was titled Inland Seas. With seas up to near 10 meters and a (very small) tidal effect, lakes just doesn't do them justice.
@@hansikatz a big ditch dug by glaciers
I remember seeing the Anderson come into Indiana Harbor a lot along with the Wilfred Sykes, bringing ore and limestone for former Inland Steel in the mid 2000s since I work there. I don't work by the docks anymore since I transferred to the BOF So I don't get a chance to see what vessels come into the harbor anymore. Think I'll take my camera and make a point to go there
Yes - please do! I look forward to seeing what you see!
She went through the same possible rogue wave that buried Fitzgerald, but she popped back up. But she was not overweight, not under maintained, and not shaky at the keel joint, and not piloted by a 'rough weather' captain. In fact, if she was by herself that day in 1975, cooper would have hugged the coast or even put her in a cove but he was following the wild one. (opinion based on youtube videos, I wasn't there)
There are a lot of interesting opinions and speculation about that night and we may never know the truth, but we will never forget.
The last ship to see the Edmund Fitzgerald afloat
Awesome video thanks much.
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Glad to see the ship is still running
She sat for over two years but they finally spent the money to get her back in service. Hopefully she has many good years left!
@@alaricdogface good it's amazing that they fixed it up it an important part of Lake history
What the crews of the Anderson and the William Clay Ford did on that November night in 1975 was beyond heroic, they were safe but they risked their lives and their ships to try and find their fellow sailors and bring them back to safety. The William Clay Ford was scrapped,hopefully they will preserve the Anderson when her hauling days are done. I know that there are much bigger and newer boats on the Great Lakes but this is the one I would want to see most of all if I had the chance to visit the lakes.
I feel lucky every time I see the Anderson. Long may she sail!
The Mighty Anderson, master of the Great Lakes.
Long may she sail! 🔊 🔉 🔉
ARTHUR M ANDERSON. I remember reading about ship. Both were in the same vicious storm one night in 1975 on Lake Superior just miles away from Edmund Fitzgerald. The Anderson survived the storm Fitzgerald didn't.
Yes, the Anderson was the last ship in radio contact with the Edmund Fitzgerald.
She's been through worse! Thanks for sharing this
She's been through much worse. Hopefully she'll be crossing Lake Superior for many years to come!
Avenge the Fitz!!!
Remember that night Anderson, remember it.
Peace to the 29 ⛴
In her own right a tribute the the "Big Fitz" and her eye's {radar} on that terrible night long ago.
Very true.
Thank You Merry Christmas ! "from Southern Ont Canada"
Merry Christmas and thanks for watching!
Always a lot of emotion seeing those big cargo ships leaving the harbors. Slowly, but inexorably, it seems like nothing can stop them. And each time the trip is an adventure. Inside the great lakes, they are kind of captive, but when you see them leaving sea harbors, you can imagine them going to a very a distant destination, maybe on the other side of the planet. I love that :)
I find it interesting when I see a salty leave Duluth and I see it on another UA-cam channel in Japan or Europe or South America etc.
Thankfully the canals make oceanic transit possible then, right?
She was right there with the Emond Fitzgerald
Yep, and she went back out to search.
Inthe 80s I worked as night guard at a building on the Milwaukee mooring basin, when US Steel owned her she laid up there along with her sisters Calloway and Clarke Blough Gott and Speer
I wonder who will buy the fleet, now that CN announced plans to sell it off. Then they will have to find a new place to layup.
My dad was a Great Lakes sailor when I was a kid... I 've spent a lot of time on the North Shore & in Duluth. I live in the Southwest now..but I miss that lake & love those boats.
Freeze warnings tonight so the southwest sounds good right about now 😬
So he's still around, huh?
In recent times I've become more and more fascinated by the Fitzgerald's tragic tale. This ship and its crew at that time were next level lucky. Respect to both groups and both vessels: may the Anderson carry Big Fitz's legend forever more.
Tool 3 years off but now the Anderson is back in service - for a long time we hope!
*took
*she’s*
Given the history of this ship, it'd take a storm nastier than the 11-10-75 for the Anderson to have trouble. I'd imagine there's also a legendary captain watching over her, too, and the spirit of Cooper will remain in command.
You would think that the Edmund Fitz could withstand a nastier storm than 11-10-75, too. And you might think that I bucket like I was on, the Georg Goebels, would sink in a storm like that. But we didn't.
MickeyYahoo When you're running a ship maybe 75-80% against the conditions the night the Fitz sank, they had no chance. They ran that ship ragged and it wasn't fully repaired.
fallguye6011 - I agree. I wonder if it’s haunted.
fallguye6011 - I agree. I think greed sunk the Fitz. Large cash bonuses were given to Officers at the end of the season & McSorley wanted his big time. I hold him & O.N. responsible. They “hid” the Homer until they could scrap it in 1986. Clever.
"They"? Bethlehem made the mistake of lengthening the Homer, which aggravated the problem. They tried to sell her, but it was the big 80's downturn and nobody wanted to waste money on her. Note the Jackson is still going.
bernie cooper is smiling
He is probably watching over them
If the ship could talk it tell some stories plus that be one cool job to have
Definitely a cool job!
Respect...
I hope I get to see this ship someday
I feel very lucky to have seen her so many times. ☘☘☘
My favorite ship she still looks good for her age
Still going strong after all these years
I just love the great lakes ships!!! Vicious lakes when they want to be. There's something like 6000 ships sunk all over the bottom and god knows how many souls lost their lifes.
And when they survive the gales of November they still have to deal with the snow and ice and cold of winter. ❄❄❄
Right now sitting in dry dock in superior wi getting ready for service
It will be good to see her sail again.
I wonder if the Anderson is the second most famous Great Lakes ship? The first being at Superior's bottom.
it might be since it was sailing with the fitzgerald
I'd say so ...
I love the Anderson. Captain Cooper remains my all-time favorite hero. But people tend to forget that there were two ships that returned to the fury of the storm that night, to search for survivors. Captain Don Erickson and the William Clay Ford, with a willing crew, went out with the Anderson. Captain Erickson didn't want to go, any more than Captain Cooper did, but they went. There were something like 15 ships in harbor that night, and only these two agreed to search. Others joined later, but only the Anderson and the Ford returned to the worst of it. Brave Captains and crews. Both of them. Legendary ships. Both of them. The Ford's contribution shouldn't be overlooked.
Five-footers and they haven't even left the harbor yet. Hang on boys.
It got pretty rough that day.
You could tell the lake doesn't even want you to take video. Truly a sobering reminder.
Another day of getting splashed by Lake Superior at the pier 🌊🤷♂️🌊
I got to see her up close a few years ago when she was at the limestone quarry just outside of Rogers City. My family was on a fossil hunting excursion at the quarry and I was so pleasantly surprised to see it there. I may have been one of the few in our large group that knew about her history. I've been reading the comments and I'm sorry to read she may never be a working ship again. Hopefully her owners will manage to get her sailing the lakes again.
They did! She is sailing now and has returned here a couple times already.
You gotta love the fact that whilst mother nature usually wins. It's great to see when we fight back and say........have some of this
Hopefully Mother Nature doesn't hold s grudge 🤞
The Anderson and the Fitz. Seeing one always makes me think of the other. Can't help but think if the Fitz would still be sailing today if it wasn't for that November nite.....
Most definitely, although she may have picked up a self unloading boom along the way.
It would be in a museum If arrogant McSorely had the respect for Superior he should have had that night. All day in port he was getting severe storm maritime updates and should have known better. He cost the company its cash cow and more importantly 28 other men their lives.Did,nt have to happen.
@@alaricdogface That may not be true. The Fitz sister ship Homer was scrapped because of her hull design, a design shared with the Fits. There were serious issues with the hull forming gaps from the keel. I think its part of the reason she floundered that night.
@@jamesvw769 they were going to reinforce the hull that winter. In fact the plates are still sitting at Fraser Shipyard in Superior. Whether that would have been enough to overcome the design flaws I don't know.
If/when this ship retires it should totally be turned into a floating museum.
I'd be happy to let them park her right near my house!
The map of the lake bottom had miss placed a shoal by a mile and the Fitz bottom hit it, the map was corrected since then.
Really enjoy all your videos. I had a career in flying but being a Mariner wasn't far from my mind. I love all the interesting history on these lakers.
The history is fascinating. I'm always finding things I didn't know.
And to think this ship was on Lake Superior the same very night the Big Fitz was lost. This ship got hammered as well, and, yet, it survived. Those Grest Lakes storms, when they crop up, are nothin to mess around with, they are dangerous.
They also went back out in that storm to search for possible survivors.
@@alaricdogface Yes, along with the William Clay Ford. Even though her ship's master was at first reluctant to go, when down to his cabin and reconsidered his decision and pulled anchor and set sail back into the dangerous storm waters in search of survivors of the Big Fitz.
@@danbasta3677 Enormous courage.
If the anderson had lost her radar like the fitz she too woulda went down.Mc sorely was sailing blind in 96 mph winds and 50 ft waves and the Anderson could have easily followrd the fitz down had she shoaled like the fitz did.
@@alaricdogface Sure Was! Those guys do deserve a metal for what they were about to face and what was shead of.
She's been through worse.
true
Its the ONE that survived !!
And went back out in the storm to search for survivors
If look at this footage and the size of this thing and think of the Fitzgerald. That had to one hell of a storm to take her down that fast.
Terrible storm.
I bet that water is super ice cold.
Nah, it's probably over 40 degrees F
Superior is so cold that people in the town used to have summer homes three blocks over on the lake. The cold air from the lake made natural air conditioning. It is called the lake effect. I am just an interested Georgia resident here, I have seen Lake Michigan and was fascinated. I am planning to visit Lake Superior. We have big cargo vessels come by here in Savannah, but if the vessel sank the crew would just swim ashore and get a frozen drink. You sink up there you die.
@@sarasmith5110 Thats why they say Superior never gives up its dead , the water is too cold for microbes to to grow and make a body float to the surface . When you sink there you stay sunk .
@@jmac5058 I did not know that, how fascinating. I went out on a narrow dock on a bay on Lake Michigan. I realized the support posts were telephone poles and I was at the top of one looking down at the water. That is how deep it was. There were one or two big boats still moored. This was October. i got the worst panic attack and almost could not come back in, the dock was shifting and swaying with the boats and it had no handrails. I was scared to death over that little thing, but I did make it back. I do not know if I would have the nerve to get out on a boat on any of the great lakes.
Robert,
Temperature average from spring to end of winter is 44 degrees. Jump on in,the water is fine!
if ships could talk imagine the stories they would tell
Especially the Anderson
@@alaricdogface definitely
nice to see she still is in service. No salt water corrosion as by me on Long Island.
Unfortunately she has some major engine issues and has sat for over a year. Hopefully they will repair her.
But like all things mechanical metal fatigue is probably at, or near, the top of the list.
Love this ship.
It's good to have her back!
She's braved it before and she'll brave again and again
Yes she will 🔊🔉🔉
Looks like it’s desperately in need of a new paint job. Grand old lady.
Needs more than that - didn't sail at all last year.
I hope she's ready for the 2018 season. I wish the Edward L. Ryerson would get placed back into service too.
+TheKilroyman she won't be in service in 2018. She's in well im sad to say Permanet layup now 5,000,000 dollars in damage done to her hull and the munson got repowered to diesel so i don't think she will be in service until they get enough money to repair her. :-(
Oh goodness no. :'( I hope this won't mean the end for her.
Sad to say it might be the end of her glory days or even sailing. And also the ryerson is laid up because she can't self unload so theres no reason to bring her out unless iron ore prices sky rocket. So it may be the end of the ryerson and anderson :'(
Man that water even looks cold.
And the ice hasn't even formed yet 😱
It kinda sucks that we will never see the Fitzgerald wearing the paint job like how the anderson, clarke, and callaway have
Yeah it does.
Anyone got Photoshop??
Fitz was owned and operated by a different company so even if she was still around she would never have the red gray and black of the Anderson.
The winds calmed down as they went through the channel (out of respect I imagine) but it was a rough day on the lake.
Its sad , she calls out “Fitz!” Wandering where her sis is later knowing that sad truth.......
They turned around and went back out in that storm trying to find her
The voice of the Anderson calling out to the fitz....
Does the lake levels fluctuate much up and down in the Great Lakes?
They go up with the spring melt and then come back down over the summer. Levels rose almost 2 feet over the course of the last decade though, returning the lakes to their 1970s and 80s levels.
Damn looks just like the Edmond Fitzgerald pretty much. Never seen this before. Damn amazing. One can almost imagine the Edmond coming back to life.
The classic laker design
looks nothing like the Fitz, i worked on the Arther B. Homer, sister ship of the Fitz, the Homer was dry-docked and was cut in half and 90 feet were added to her hull, after the Fitz sank, to me, that makes her more vulnerable to break in half. but Anderson looks nothing like the Fitz
Not really.Different hull design.Similiar but not the same.
This ship did not sail this past year. Is it getting hull work done to it, does anyone know?
She has been laid up in Duluth since January of 2017 awaiting repairs.
+alaricdogface i heard she is in permanet layup. She probably wont be repaired because they just converted a ship to diesel ( John G.Munson) if GLF gets enough money then they might repair her or this could mean the breakers yard
As of 2019, she's back out.🎉🎈🎆🍾
The Anderson survived the storm because of her well built/designed body the fitz was all around terably designed
The Fitz was going to get her hull reinforced that winter. The plates are still sitting at Fraser Shipyard in Superior waiting for her.
Damn. That is a mouthful of truth.
Hey man- guys have been found in trunks of cars for that kinda jaw-jackin’ I’d take it back if I were you. Just sayin’
Not terrible just flawed.Had she not been pushed and abused so hard she coulda been still afloat but major repairs were pushed back and jury rigged to keep her running and making the greedy owners rich.Damn shame cuz she deserves a spot in the smithosonian not on the bottom of lake superior with her faithful crew.
@@alaricdogface Yeah but her maintaince kept getting pushed off .When the engineers protested they were either warned to shut up or removed.BULLSHIT.
The RMS Olympic of the Great Lakes.
She tried to be like the Carpathia but there were no survivors.
Saw the AA pull Two Harbors this afternoon
Heading for the Soo now...
No wrath in this video, that was just foreplay for Ms. Superior
It was rough out on the lake that day but the Anderson cut right through.
I do hope that Anderson and Ryerson are made into museum ships. My idea would be to cut there bow sections off after 4th hatch cover and land lock bow sections turn them in too great lake shipping museum. then scrap the aft sections of the ships. I would love to see such a museum in my city of Buffalo ny. Such a museum complex would go nice right next too naval museum already there with the navy destroyer and cruiser there already.
That's what they did to the William Clay Ford. Her btidge over looks one of the Great Lakes. The William Clay Ford was one of the ships involved in rescue maneuvers when the Big Fitz went down.
I would hope that the Ryerson would be saved intact, she is the most beautiful of the Lakers.
No cutting in half. These ships deserve to be preserved in one piece and floating, especially the Anderson.
Love From Lake Freighters
Hello! Nice channel! ⚓😁⚓
This is hardly the wrath of Lake Supieior this is a walk in the park to the Anderson.
It was gale force winds on the lake that day. Whenever I get splashed by the lake it is wrath.
The title of this video works great as a movie title. The Anderson and the Wrath of Superior
I'd watch that! 😁🍿
Quality camerawork.
That water is so cold it never warms up..
Ice water that's for sure