FUN Ecuadorian Math Olympiad Number Theory Problem

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  • Normally, there'd be some WILD stuff here, and maybe there still is, but hear me out first...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 136

  • @tomholroyd7519
    @tomholroyd7519 Рік тому +167

    He has room for backflips now

    • @bini420
      @bini420 Рік тому +7

      the comment section could pressure him into doing backflips at the beginning of every video

    • @xl000
      @xl000 Рік тому

      he is a rock climber, not a gymnast.
      It explains the size of his forearms and biceps

    • @brabhamfreaman166
      @brabhamfreaman166 4 місяці тому

      Didn’t seem a hindrance before

  • @lexyeevee
    @lexyeevee Рік тому +68

    i love this very formal number theoretic proof of a lemma that i would've summarized as "well it's gotta be somewhere"

    • @hybmnzz2658
      @hybmnzz2658 Рік тому +5

      Oh man you are giving me flashbacks to my number theory prof ranting about how mathematicians in the 1600s-1800s would assume p|ab implies p|a or p|b by assuming unique factorization into primes. Apparently only Gauss cared enough to note it's circular reasoning.

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr Рік тому +1

      @@hybmnzz2658 Euclid also cared, since he proved unique factorization

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr Рік тому +1

      I think the “well it’s gotta be somewhere” proof assumes unique factorization. Nonetheless, that proof still becomes important in integral domains, when we prove that in UFDs all irreducibles are prime.

    • @tracyh5751
      @tracyh5751 Рік тому

      @@hybmnzz2658 Eh, that depends heavily on how you define a number to be a prime. For commutative rings for example, p|ab -> p|a or p|b is the definition for a prime in any Principal Ideal Doman (the integers being an example of a PID).

  • @davidemasi__
    @davidemasi__ Рік тому +60

    I love it when you solve this kind of problems and teach such nice tricks which can be applied in similar situations and I also appreciate the idea of the two blackboards. The channel is getting better and better, I'm sure you'll get to pi-thousand subscribers soon!

  • @zuzaaa1998
    @zuzaaa1998 Рік тому +32

    I think that this new format has some potential but there are a few problems. The lighting is a little bit off and some parts of the board are more illuminated than others. Other thing is that you have always had previous steps summarised somewhere in the corner and now despite the fact that you have more space some previous facts were erased and it was harder to recall what was already done. Like the equation for n in terms of x and the problem statement itself that was only on one of the boards

  • @andrewlitfin1977
    @andrewlitfin1977 Рік тому +14

    I actually really like the new format! Feels a lot smoother

  • @Bodyknock
    @Bodyknock Рік тому +67

    Working through the bonus problem where p² + p + 1 = n³, the steps are mostly the same but with an occasional sign flip.
    Suppose p(p+1) = n³ - 1 = (n-1)(n² + n + 1). Then either p|(n-1) or p|(n² + n + 1)
    Case 1 - Suppose p|(n-1), i.e. n-1 = px for some natural x.
    Then p ≤ n-1 which implies p+1 ≤ n
    But also p(p+1) = px(n² + n + 1) which implies p+1 = xn² + xn + x ≥ n² + n + 1 > n (since x and n are Natural numbers)
    So n ≥ p+1 > n, which is a contradiction. Therefore p does not divide (n-1)
    Case 2 - Suppose p | n² + n + 1, i.e. n² + n + 1 = px for some natural x
    Then p(p+1) = px(n-1), so p = xn - x - 1
    Plugging p in, we get n² + n + 1 = nx² - x² - x
    Solving for x, we find that the discriminant f(x) = x⁴ - 6x² - 4x - 3 must be a perfect square. (Similar to the video except we have a -4x term instead of a +4x term.)
    Similar to the video, set g(x) = (x² - 4)² and h(x) = (x² - 3)² (so instead of 3 and 2 we're using 4 and 3 as the differences for the consecutive squares).
    f(x) - g(x) = 2x² - 4x - 19. Note that if you solve for x this is >0 if x>4 or x4 part.
    h(x) - f(x) = 4x + 12, which is always >0 for all Natural x.
    Therefore if x>4 we have h(x) > f(x) > g(x), which puts f(x) between two consecutive squares. So there can be no solutions where x>4 (just like the video, only with slightly different consecutive squares.)
    So the only possible solutions are x = 1, 2, 3, or 4and only if f(x) is itself a perfect square. Recall above f(x) = x⁴ - 6x² - 4x - 3 for reference
    f(1) = 1-6-4-3 = -12, not a perfect square
    f(2) = 16 - 24 - 8 - 3 = -19, not a perfect square
    f(3) = 81 - 54 - 12 - 3 = 12, also not a perfect square
    f(4) = 141, not a perfect square
    Therefore f(x) is never a perfect square for any natural number x, and thus there are no solutions.

    • @someperson188
      @someperson188 Рік тому +8

      It should be mentioned that n 1 (which is easily checked) in order to conclude
      (in Case 1) that p | n -1 implies n -1 = px, where x is a natural number.
      f(x) - g(x) = 2x² - 4x - 19 = 2x(x - 2) - 19 > 0, for x >= 5. So, you must also check
      that f(4) = 141 isn't a perfect square.
      I think you meant "solving for n" not "solving for x".

    • @Bodyknock
      @Bodyknock Рік тому

      @@someperson188 Which is not a square.

    • @georgelaing2578
      @georgelaing2578 Рік тому +3

      Your arithmetic is perfect, except
      that f(x) - g(x) should end in -19.
      The expression is positive when
      x is strictly greater than 4, so the
      logic still holds.

    • @Bodyknock
      @Bodyknock Рік тому +1

      @@georgelaing2578 Thanks, I corrected that and also added the f(4) case that needs to be explicitly checked.

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 Рік тому

      Whyvdkesbt hevjustbuse this that you can rewrite as p(p-1)= n^3-1 and use that tpnsolve instead of a lemma I don't think most ppl have heard of or would deduce anyway if theyvhavent..cantnyoubthebsplve by saying either p equals n minus 1 and p minus 1 =(n^2 + n +1) or vice versa and you are done?

  • @pingpongfulldh2308
    @pingpongfulldh2308 Рік тому +5

    I never understood why this channel only has 251k, this is a gem!

  • @funatish
    @funatish Рік тому +7

    So Stephanie is the name of our unsung heroine of the description short stories. Shoutout to her!

  • @runzeli1392
    @runzeli1392 Рік тому +1

    I like your video and the format! Please keep going! Thank you!

  • @maldi_tof2910
    @maldi_tof2910 Рік тому +3

    Love how you are choosing problems that tie into your MathMajor channel and the recent proof writing series. Do continue this trend of having your problems tie into your lectures. Love it.

  • @boluo7157
    @boluo7157 Рік тому +1

    amazing quality and production, keep up the good work!

  • @confidential9411
    @confidential9411 Рік тому +4

    It first appeared in St. Petersburg olympiad in 90's, then appeared in Balkan Olympiad

  • @DavidSavinainen
    @DavidSavinainen Рік тому +3

    The studio looks awesome!
    I also like this problem a lot; Using trial and error on p, 19 is quite large (even for a prime, there's seven smaller ones) so if one tested seven or fewer of them, one would like to conclude that there is no solution, however in such a situation, one would be wrong.

  • @Dr.1.
    @Dr.1. Рік тому +1

    Wow amazing video... Love the new format

  • @alvarezjulio3800
    @alvarezjulio3800 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful problem and excelent problem solving!

  • @mMaximus56789
    @mMaximus56789 Рік тому +4

    I would love a series from you doing more 'modern' multivariable calculus as to arrive to the generalized stokes theorem with differential forms

  • @mcwulf25
    @mcwulf25 Рік тому +2

    Thorough as ever. The first p|ab bit can be easily proven with prime factorisation.

  • @maldi_tof2910
    @maldi_tof2910 Рік тому +1

    what an amazing studio!!!

  • @bilalabbad7954
    @bilalabbad7954 Рік тому

    I like your videos
    I have learned a lot of formulas from your courses
    Thank you so much

  • @manucitomx
    @manucitomx Рік тому +1

    Thank you, professor and congratulations on the new set-up.
    Now that there is room, are the backflips making a comeback?

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 Рік тому +14

    The new format is great

  • @0xTJ
    @0xTJ Рік тому +1

    I love the look of the space!

  • @ManuelRacle
    @ManuelRacle Рік тому +1

    I did really like this one! Thanks

  • @gazzamgazzam4371
    @gazzamgazzam4371 Рік тому +2

    Hello everyone,
    p^2-p+1=n^3...(*), as you said there exists a natural x>0 s.t.
    px=n^2+n+1 ....(1)
    p-1=×(n-1) .......(2)
    we have from (1):
    px=(n-1)(n+2)+3 multiplying both sides by x, one obtains:
    px^2=x(n-1)(n+2)+3x . Using (2), one can write: px^2=(p-1)(n+2)+3x. This equation is equivalent to ,
    p(x^2-n-2)=3x-n-2 (it is easy to prove the positivity of both sides). For x>3, we have : 3x^2-n-2>3x-n-2 and since p is a prime (greater than 1) the last equation does not have a solution. Now we need to check the last equation for the cases: x=1, x=2, and x=3. By easy calculation, the equation (*) has a solution for the case x=3 while there are not solutions for the two other cases. For x=3, one can easily determine p and n which they are : p=19 and n=7.
    The answer to the question is : there is only one prime which is 19.
    Thank you for this good problem.

  • @phee4174
    @phee4174 Рік тому +1

    15:31
    this is a bit of minor nitpicking , but -3 is in fact a perfect square, if one works over the Eisenstein integers , specifically it's (1+2ω)^2

  • @vaxjoaberg
    @vaxjoaberg Рік тому +6

    I like the new format.

  • @robshaw2639
    @robshaw2639 Рік тому +9

    I don't find any primes less than 10,000 for which p^2 + p + 1 works

    • @Bodyknock
      @Bodyknock Рік тому +3

      That checks, I solved it using the same method as the video and the corresponding f(x) is never a perfect square for any natural x in the bonus problem, meaning no solutions.

  • @reubenmckay
    @reubenmckay Рік тому +6

    Michael's previous solve of the same question can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/mYCVZitGsFQ/v-deo.html
    Personally, I think his newer solution is cleaner and more elegant.

  • @jeremydavie4484
    @jeremydavie4484 9 місяців тому

    I love your videos! What is the best way to tackle writing proofs without getting any hints? Does it come with time? Where do most math people get these crazy intuitions to use certain lemmas? Thank you.

  • @matematicacommarcospaulo
    @matematicacommarcospaulo Рік тому +1

    Awesome transition at 11:03.... I would like to see it "behind the scenes"

  • @ttrss
    @ttrss Рік тому +1

    production quality is insane

  • @romajimamulo
    @romajimamulo Рік тому +1

    The colors are excellent by the way

  • @karimshariff7379
    @karimshariff7379 Рік тому +1

    Really nice problem and solution. Two blackboards look optimal.

  • @EyadAmmari
    @EyadAmmari 4 місяці тому +1

    Beautiful!

  • @motoroladefy2740
    @motoroladefy2740 Рік тому +1

    What a setup man!

  • @someperson188
    @someperson188 Рік тому +2

    It should be mentioned that n 1 (which is easily checked) in order to conclude (in
    Case 1) that p | n -1 implies n -1 = px, where x is a natural number.

  • @jellyfrancis
    @jellyfrancis Рік тому

    Nice studio 👌💥❤️

  • @thsand5032
    @thsand5032 Рік тому +2

    When getting to p | n²+n+1, I tried seeing if there was any way to use Eisenstein integers to solve the problem.
    You can immediately deduce that p cannot be an Eisenstein prime, because if it were it would divide either n-j or n-j², meaning n-j = p(a+bj), so pb = -1. Not happening.
    Therefore, p = qq* for some Eisenstein prime q.
    From there, I was kind of stuck (I didn't try very hard though). If anyone comes up with anything coming from that, I'd be interested to hear about it.

  • @krisbrandenberger544
    @krisbrandenberger544 Рік тому +5

    Hey, Michael! The constant term of h(x)-f(x) should be positive seven, not negative seven.

  • @beautifulworld6163
    @beautifulworld6163 Рік тому

    Really good❤

  • @LaszloBattha
    @LaszloBattha Рік тому

    The following solution maybe of interest since it only uses basic facts about divisibility, and the simple observation: if (4i+r)(4k+s)=4l+t, where 0=2 and
    thus x>0. But then (n-1)(n-2)>= p(n-2)=p(px-1)>=
    p(p-1)=(n-1)m>m and thus 0>-n^2+3n-2+m=4n-1>=11, a
    contradiction. Hence m=px for some x>0 and thus
    p(p-1)=(n-1)px, i.e., p-1=(n-1)x. Hence m=((n-1)x+1)x.
    From 0==n(n+1)=(n-1)x^2+x-1==(n-1)x+x-1=nx-1 (mod 2) we get
    n=2k+1 for some k>0 & x=2y+1 for some y>=0, and thus
    m-1=n^2+n=4k^2+6k+2=2(2k+1)(k+1) &
    m-1=((n-1)x+1)x-1=2k(2y+1)^2+2y=8ky^2+(8k+2)y+2k,
    i.e., 2k(k+1)+1=y(4ky+4k+1). From 2 | k(k+1) we get y=4z+1
    for some z>=0 and thus
    2k^2+2k+1=2k(k+1)+1=(4z+1)(4k(4z+1)+4k+1)=4k(4z+1)^2+
    16kz+4z+4k+1, i.e., k^2=2k(4z+1)^2+8kz+2z+k. Hence 2z=kl for
    some l>=0 and thus k^2=2k(2kl+1)^2+(4k+1)kl+k, i.e.,
    k=2(2kl+1)^2+(4k+1)l+1. Assume(!) that l>=1. Then
    k>=2(2k+1)^2+4k+1+1>=2*3^2+4k+2, a contradiction. Hence
    l=0 and thus k=3 & z=0 & y=1 & x=3. This gives n=2k+1=7 &
    p-1=(n-1)x=6*3=18.

  • @torbjornolsson9087
    @torbjornolsson9087 Рік тому

    Nice bound on squares. I came to equation through simillar reasoning that (a^2-3)^2+4(a-3)=(a+x)^2 from wich I suspektes only a=3 leading to x=3 is possible solution. Otherwise one could investigate integers u^2+v^2=z^2 maybe?

  • @armandohernandez5329
    @armandohernandez5329 Рік тому +1

    Hi everyone. There is a writing mistake: h(x)-f(x)=2x^2-4x+7 for x>=4

  • @serhiislobodianiuk776
    @serhiislobodianiuk776 Рік тому

    Nice!
    Did you know that there is quite similar problem from Romanian Masters 2023?
    Solve x^3+y^3=p(xy+p) where p is prime, x, y are positive integers

  • @nathanaschmann7522
    @nathanaschmann7522 Рік тому

    Cool math coming from my home country, cool.

  • @gregevgeni1864
    @gregevgeni1864 Рік тому +1

    very nice ❤

  • @spazmoidectomorf6209
    @spazmoidectomorf6209 Рік тому

    If you wondering like I was, why can't p divide both n-1 and n²+n+1 its because this implies RHS has factor of p², but LHS has factor of only p which wouldn't work

  • @euleri0
    @euleri0 Рік тому

    spot on!!

  • @FullAfterburner
    @FullAfterburner Рік тому

    37(n+n+n)=nnn for 0 < n < 10. Sin (666) + Cos (6*6*6) = -1.618... (golden ratio). Belphegor's prime is the palindromic prime number 1000000000000066600000000000001 (10^30 + 666 × 10^14 + 1).

  • @howareyou4400
    @howareyou4400 Рік тому

    I wonder why we spent time prove this lemma, while it's obvious from the "Fundamental theorem of arithmetic" by the factorization of a and b which gives the factorization of ab.

    • @noelwass4738
      @noelwass4738 4 місяці тому

      I suppose the lemma could be the considered as the basis for proving the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic.

  • @bosorot
    @bosorot Рік тому +3

    2 boards are good. But do you know what is better? . Make a 3rd board on the ceiling. I doubt that Michael can climb !!!

    • @MichaelPennMath
      @MichaelPennMath  Рік тому

      What if I told you he's an avid rock climber? lol
      -Stephanie
      MP Editor

    • @catalogapp5776
      @catalogapp5776 Рік тому

      ​@@MichaelPennMath I think that it was a pretty funny joke based on this fact

  • @gtziavelis
    @gtziavelis Рік тому

    343 came up in Domotro's camping/math live-stream last night ~@2:02:40, as a better alternative to 333, because 7*7*7, so that's a cool coincidence.

  • @TheQEDRoom
    @TheQEDRoom Рік тому

    I know that p=3 is not a solution, but shouldn't we also check that case? Since p could divide both n-1 and n^2+n+1 and that happens when p=3.

  • @kingfrozen4257
    @kingfrozen4257 10 днів тому

    the lemma proof is circular!

  • @brabhamfreaman166
    @brabhamfreaman166 4 місяці тому

    6:15 If we’re working with natural numbers, you should’ve dispatched (easily, I admit, but necessary nonetheless) with the case n=1 when n-1=0 and p|0 🥴

  • @abhitomar320
    @abhitomar320 Рік тому +1

    Great❤

  • @hazalouldi7130
    @hazalouldi7130 Рік тому

    you are right

  • @DavidVonR
    @DavidVonR Рік тому

    I came up with a brute force solution by mentally checking all primes less than 100. The only values I could find were p = 19, n = 7. I tried to solve this one algebraically, got nowhere.

  • @minwithoutintroduction
    @minwithoutintroduction Рік тому +1

    رائع قبل المشاهدة

  • @Happy_Abe
    @Happy_Abe Рік тому +1

    That “W” alliteration though

  • @johns.8246
    @johns.8246 Рік тому +1

    How about p^2+p+8=n^3? I already found a solution by guess and check. But are there others?

    • @conntoolbox
      @conntoolbox Рік тому

      yes, p=31... and can you find the solution to p^2 - p - 8 = n^3 ?

    • @johns.8246
      @johns.8246 Рік тому

      @@conntoolbox p=1801 Don't ever do that to me again.

  • @iljas275
    @iljas275 Рік тому

    Is it possible to prove the same if P is not a prime, but any positive integer? It seems. that result should be the same. If it is possible, then it is a part of positive integer solution of the equation y^2-x^3=1 in real numbers.

    • @mcwulf25
      @mcwulf25 Рік тому

      More difficult because if p is not prime then we can't say it divides a, b or both. One factor might divide a and the other factor might divide b.

  • @qing6045
    @qing6045 Рік тому

    What is the brand of your chalk?

  • @koenth2359
    @koenth2359 Рік тому

    For the homework p^2+p+1 = n^3 I get:
    p(p+1)=(n-1)(n^2+n+1)
    case 1) p|n-1 => n+1 n=1/2 (x^2-1+/- sqrtD) with D=x^4-6x^2-4x-3
    Whenever x>=5 we have (x^2-4)^2 < x^4-6x^2-4x-3 < (x^2-3)^2, so try
    x=1, D=-12
    x=2, D=-19
    x=3, D=12
    x=4, D=256-96-16-3=141
    so D is never a perfect square and there are no solutions

  • @roneyandrade6287
    @roneyandrade6287 Рік тому +1

    Hey I'm Ecuadorian!

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding9792 Рік тому

    @ 14:14 it should be (x^2-2)^2

  • @mantisbog
    @mantisbog Рік тому +2

    Do Steiner math.

  • @LaszloBattha
    @LaszloBattha Рік тому

    Sorry, the correct form is: if (4i+r)(4k+s)=4l+1, where 0

  • @LaszloBattha
    @LaszloBattha Рік тому

    Still not correct, but now i have it: if (4i+r)(4k+s)=4l+1, where 0

  • @KC18236
    @KC18236 Рік тому

    😮😮😮niiice problem

  • @confidential9411
    @confidential9411 Рік тому

    The lemma is evident fact

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 Рік тому

    0:33 But you needn't prove that. That is the definition of "prime".

  • @shrayanpramanik8985
    @shrayanpramanik8985 Рік тому +3

    I think I saw this kind of format in a ug entrance exam in India called the CMI entrance. I'd suggest you to have a look at those papers! You'd like them.

    • @physicorum7107
      @physicorum7107 Рік тому

      Which year's paper mate ?

    • @shrayanpramanik8985
      @shrayanpramanik8985 Рік тому

      @@physicorum7107 I'm really not sure bruv.
      But I'm definitely sure about what the question was.
      It was
      p³-p= n⁷-n³.
      Where p is a prime and n is any natural number.
      The solution almost exactly used this concept in the video.

  • @lgooch
    @lgooch Рік тому

    Do you have to prove the first lemma in the real Olympiad or can you just state it?

  • @subpopulations
    @subpopulations Рік тому

    I misread the thumbnail at first and thought it was when is sqr(p) - p + 1 = a prime
    which is an interesting question, but I couldn't see an obvious pattern, I got to p has to be 6m+1
    as for 6m -1 it is divisible by 3 but there appear to be an infinite number of solutions,
    thus I thought it seemed a little too difficult for an Olympiad question, so I went back to to
    check the video and noticed my mistake.
    2 3
    3 7
    7 43
    13 157
    67 4423
    79 6163
    My Solution to the actual:
    so first note cube(n) = 1 (mod p)
    thus 3 divides p-1 (Fermat's little theorem) as n is not 1 and less than p
    thus p = 6m + 1
    then cube(n) = 1 (mod 6) so n = 6q + 1
    sqr( 6m + 1) - 6m = cube(6q + 1)
    36sqr(m) + 6m + 1 = cube(6q)+ 3sqr(6q) + 3(6q) +1
    some manipulation produces
    6sqr(m) + m = 36cube(q) +18sqr(q) + 3q
    thus m = 3k and p = 18k +1
    18sqr(k)+k = 12cube(q) +6sqr(q) + q
    pk = q(12sqr(q) +6q + 1)
    gcd(q, 12sqr(q) +6q + 1) =1 and gcd(p, k) =1
    so q divides p or 12sqr(q) +6q + 1 divides p
    but p prime so if a number divides p then that number = 1 or p
    12sqr(q) +6q + 1 can't be 1
    so q = 1
    so pk = 19
    thus k =1
    and p = 19 and n = 7
    I saw a comment about a Test Problem:
    sqr(p) + p + 1 = a cube
    similarly 3 divides p-1
    thus p = 6m + 1
    then cube(n) = 3 (mod 6) so n = 6q + 3
    thus cube(n) = 0 (mod 9)
    but sqr(p) = 1 + 12m (mod 9)
    then sqr(p) + p = 2 (mod 9)
    and so sqr(p) + p + 1 = 3 (mod 9)
    contradiction no such p and n exist

    • @nickkrempel5888
      @nickkrempel5888 10 місяців тому

      You went wrong at the point you said "so q divides p or 12sqr(q) +6q + 1 divides p". That doesn't follow from the gcd conditions you established.

  • @whycantiremainanonymous8091

    Why such a convoluted proof for the lemma? The prime factorization of ab contains p (because p is a prime), and this guarantees p is a factor of either a, or b, or both.

    • @YAWTon
      @YAWTon Рік тому

      How would you prove that the prime factorization of ab contains p?

    • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
      @whycantiremainanonymous8091 Рік тому

      @@YAWTonIt's given that p is a prime. It's given that p divides (=is a factor of) ab. If it's prime and it's a factor, it follows that it is a prime factor.
      Is that proof enough?

    • @YAWTon
      @YAWTon Рік тому

      @@whycantiremainanonymous8091 No, it isn't, unless if you _assume_ the fundamental theorem of arithmetic, which is a consequence of the lemma that that he proves in the first few minutes of the clip. But of course, in a Math Olympiad Problem you could probably assume knowledge of the fundamental theorem...

    • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
      @whycantiremainanonymous8091 Рік тому

      @@YAWTon Yeah, you should be able to assume it 😃 It's definitely a better known theorem than the one MP used. Otherwise, "Solve without relying on the fundamental theorem of arithmetic" should be typed in boldface all over the problem...

    • @YAWTon
      @YAWTon Рік тому

      @@whycantiremainanonymous8091 Yes, I agree that one could assume the theorem. But the proof of the lemma wasn't "convoluted".

  • @gp-ht7ug
    @gp-ht7ug Рік тому

    The two consecutive squares come out of the blue. Why have you chosen those squares?

    • @javiergilvidal1558
      @javiergilvidal1558 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, the solution is quite contrived, and far from obvious. It DOES depend a lot on you being lucky enogh to find quite a few saving ideas! I don't think it's a fair problem ....

  • @bini420
    @bini420 Рік тому +1

    niceeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @Macieks300
    @Macieks300 Рік тому +1

    Couldn't that first lemma be proven in one step by just using the fundamental theorem of arithmetic?

    • @user-dk1nr3tv8b
      @user-dk1nr3tv8b Рік тому +2

      that's circular reasoning

    • @notfeelin6610
      @notfeelin6610 Рік тому +2

      all the proofs of fta i have seen use p|ab implies p|a or p|b. i suppose it might be possible to prove it without using that though

  • @georgelaing2578
    @georgelaing2578 Рік тому

    The long shots of your new
    environment are quite
    dramatic!!!

  • @helioserioleaodecarvalho
    @helioserioleaodecarvalho Рік тому +1

    h(x) - f(x) = 2x² - 4x + 7 ?

  • @warrengibson7898
    @warrengibson7898 9 місяців тому

    Were students expected to solve this problem from a standing start in an exam room?

  • @jiioannidis7215
    @jiioannidis7215 Рік тому

    Not exactly rigorous proof, but:
    Lemma: all math-olympiad problems that ask you to find all numbers having a certain property have a finite set of answers :) (or a formula, but there is no formula for prime numbers [that we know of :) ].
    Proof by exhaustive search of all problems in all math olympiads :)
    Therefore, we start enumerating prime numbers and stop when 19 is reached. The proof that only one exists is left as an exercise to some other troll :)

  • @adriansison1503
    @adriansison1503 Рік тому

    Basado

    • @Ali-jb4ns
      @Ali-jb4ns Рік тому

      I have met for the first Bezout Theorem when I was 19 and never really understood it. Thanks to this video and your explanations I finally got it...30 years later. Thank you so much.

  • @charleyhoward4594
    @charleyhoward4594 Рік тому

    guy's too smart for me ...

  • @paperplate9222
    @paperplate9222 Рік тому

    June emoji

  • @jonathanparkes9772
    @jonathanparkes9772 Рік тому

    Am I supposed to understand whats going on?

  • @adamnevraumont4027
    @adamnevraumont4027 Рік тому

    Case 1 you neglected n=1 case, in which case x is 0. It doesn't work, but you didn't rule it out.

  • @alexandermorozov2248
    @alexandermorozov2248 10 місяців тому

    p=19, n=7 🤪

  • @damascus21
    @damascus21 Рік тому

    How would you get such a time consuming problem done during a math olympiad??

    • @MichaelPennMath
      @MichaelPennMath  Рік тому +1

      Michael is really fleshing out the solution, in competition you’d not have to prove the lemma etc.
      -Stephanie
      MP Editor

    • @damascus21
      @damascus21 Рік тому

      ​@@MichaelPennMath oh okay! I was assuming the lemma proof was required lol

  • @davidwright5719
    @davidwright5719 9 місяців тому

    Why isn’t the proof of lemma just… write out the prime factorizations of a and b. What is it with this guy’s love of lengthy, obfuscating proofs?

  • @Deejaynerate
    @Deejaynerate Рік тому +1

    You can't divide 57 by 3, 57 is a prime. Grothendieck told me so.

  • @PhysicsNg
    @PhysicsNg Рік тому +1

    I remember this math problem pretty easy for even 9th grade

  • @Apollorion
    @Apollorion Рік тому

    How stupid is, in order to try factorizing the equation pp-p+1=ppp , subtracting p from both sides of the equation and then:
    pp-2p+1 = ppp-p = (p-1)^2 = p(pp-1) = (p-1)(p-1) = p(p-1)(p+1)
    So p=1 (but is that a prime?) or p-1=pp+p
    The latter solves the same as pp+1=0 so has no real solutions and hence no (extra) primes.

  • @roderickdewar1064
    @roderickdewar1064 3 місяці тому +1

    I boycott all products advertised on UA-cam #BoycottYTads

  • @shelleyfromyard
    @shelleyfromyard Рік тому

    Going too fast. Got lost really quickly. Math experts make the worst teachers because they assume their audience already understands some fundamentals.